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'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

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Post by BlueBag on 20.06.17 15:12

This massively important story has now dropped off the BBC news page.

Some sweating going on somewhere I would imagine.
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Post by Truth4Maddie on 20.06.17 15:50

Khadijeh Sherizi said Mr Osborne was polite and her children, who are Muslim, would play with his children most days.

"In Cardiff, it can be quite racist. Sometimes I feel threatened with my veil on. I know exactly what people are thinking by their looks," she said.

"But there has been nothing from him (Mr Osborne), no threats, no animosity at all," she said.


Well this statement certainly goes against another she made which suggests he called one of her children a derogatory name just this weekend.
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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by BlueBag on 20.06.17 19:19

They've made an arrest!

Someone posted a stupid remark on Facebook!

Oh dear.

What about this lot?



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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by Doug D on 21.06.17 7:21

This is the approach to the left turn for the cul de sac where the 'attack' happened.(Opposite the old Rainbow theatre for any music fans amongst us).
Plenty of cameras monitoring the traffic all round there, so the police must know exactly what really happened.

The mosque is much further down the road, under all the railway bridges, to the right down another road. I think that you can just see the minaret in the background.
The story being fed is just nonsensical.


Just for the record, the old Rainbow Theatre, which is what this is outside, is now a church belonging to ‘The Universal Church of the Kingdom of God’,Pentecostal Christian denomination organisation with its headquarters at the Temple of Solomon in São Paulo, Brazil.

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Post by Truth4Maddie on 21.06.17 7:54

Police are using CCTV cameras and automatic numberplate recognition technology to track Osborne’s movements from Cardiff to London.

They will be able to work out if he was at or near the al-Quds rally, which is organised by the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) and took place on Sunday afternoon in Westminster, before he headed north-east to Finsbury Park.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/20/finsbury-park-suspect-hired-van-days-before-driving-london-darren-osborne

This is great, maybe they could show us said CCTV footage of the incident itself & we can decide for sure what happened.
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Post by BlueBag on 21.06.17 8:30

I hope Darren Osborne has a good lawyer.

I think his rights are limited if this is called a terrorist attack.

They must be feverishly working on ways to spin this.

Most of the media has gone very quiet.
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Post by Truth4Maddie on 21.06.17 11:07

@BlueBag wrote:I hope Darren Osborne has a good lawyer.

I think his rights are limited if this is called a terrorist attack.

They must be feverishly working on ways to spin this.

Most of the media has gone very quiet.



I see this too, after the Tower Bridge attack, on the Sky News app there was 10+ articles every day for at least a week or more. Finsbury "attack" has zero articles on the top stories of Sky News & it's only 2 days since it happened.
Silence is deafening.
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Post by BlueBag on 21.06.17 11:34

Sounds like he was a depressed drunk not a terrorist.

If you can believe that media story.

I'm taking the "he said just before..." in a pub stories with a pinch of salt for now.
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Post by polyenne on 21.06.17 13:37

A terrorist, by definition (look it up) carries out his acts for a "political aim". Please enlighten me as to Darren Osborne's political aims.
 
Now, I'm not in any way condoning what he has done but he is an alcoholic, drug-dependent bloke from Weston who, with mental issues being a high probability, flipped. He ain't no "terrorist".

But he'll be made an example of, that much is for sure. "They" have no choice.................
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Post by BlueBag on 21.06.17 14:02

The silence from the media means they haven't found any way to pin this on Brexiteers or anti-globalists.

He's clean.

So he flipped whilst pissed or it was an accident (maybe driving under the influence).
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Post by Truth4Maddie on 21.06.17 14:56

If by any chance the one death that has been confirmed (the person already being tended to) was proven to not be caused by the van, what's the strongest charge they can prosecute him with?
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Post by polyenne on 21.06.17 15:00

Dangerous Driving
Driving with Undue Care & Attention
Driving Whilst Unfit Through Drink or Drugs
Threats to Kill
Inciting Racial Hatred

To name but a few.................
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Post by Casey5 on 21.06.17 15:51

Racial hatred?  Islam is an ideology not a race.

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Post by polyenne on 21.06.17 16:27

He said he wanted to "kill all Muslims"
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Post by BlueBag on 21.06.17 20:29

@polyenne wrote:He said he wanted to "kill all Muslims"
Did he?

Who said?
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Re: 'Major Incident' as van hits mosque worshippers

Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 6:44

I know it's mentioned.

I've seen it.

It doesn't mean he said it.

Who said he said it? The people who were beating him up? What were their names?

When this is all over I think there will be some interesting questions for some people.
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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 10:18

Bloomin' 'eck Bluebag, so correct me if I'm wrong but unless anything is actually said to YOU, you won't believe it ?

And I thought I was cynical !!
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Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 11:00

@polyenne wrote:Bloomin' 'eck Bluebag, so correct me if I'm wrong but unless anything is actually said to YOU, you won't believe it ?

And I thought I was cynical !!
Bloomin 'eck.

You believe everything you are told?
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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 11:16

No, but I do believe SOME things I'm told, after some further research.
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Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 11:30

@polyenne wrote:No, but I do believe SOME things I'm told, after some further research.
Did you research this incident and did your research conclude that he did utter "I want to kill all Muslims"?
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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 11:38

I did. According to numerous sources (admittedly some, but not all, may have been the same source) including reports from local Welsh correspondents that he'd uttered similar phrases the night before, in his local, after which he was ejected.

I'm happy with my research.....time will tell.
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Post by MrsC on 22.06.17 13:05

BREAKING NEWS: Finsbury Park victim, 51, is pictured for the first time as it emerges the 'peace-loving and gentle' grandfather died from multiple injuries

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4628674/Finsbury-Park-victim-51-died-multiple-injuries.html#ixzz4kjSALzJY

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Post by polyenne on 22.06.17 13:29

Ok so now add manslaughter (probably with diminished responsibility) to the thrown rule book
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Post by BlueBag on 22.06.17 13:38

@polyenne wrote:I did. According to numerous sources (admittedly some, but not all, may have been the same source) including reports from local Welsh correspondents that he'd uttered similar phrases the night before, in his local, after which he was ejected.

I'm happy with my research.....time will tell.
Reading and believing the guff in the papers is hardly research.

Did he drive into them at high speed as they emerged from the mosque?

Where there 3 men with knives and two ran away?
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