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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.05.17 16:57




A shocking blog from one of my twitter followers:  https://goodcopdown.wordpress.com/my-story/
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The Story

Introduction



This is a factual account of corruption, abuse of power and the malicious conduct of Hampshire Constabulary to silence whistle blowers.

The treatment I experienced was as a direct result of trying to help members of the public and victims of crime.

Prior to transferring to Hampshire police, I was a long serving experienced Detective Sergeant with a number of commendations from my service in the Metropolitan Police and subsequently also received the long service and good conduct medal.

As a result of my disclosures to the HMIC, Professional Standards in Hampshire were inspected and 12 recommendations were made.

The Chief Constable at that time Paul Kernaghan displayed arrogance trying to defend the indefensible and he subsequently made sure that I was dismissed from the force.

As a result of the failure of the HMIC to protect myself and a colleague I sent my police long service medal back to the Chief HMI at the time who was Sir Ronnie Flanagan.

The HMIC recommendations were not welcomed by Mr Kernaghan and to some extent was corroborated when a baseline assessment of all was carried out by the HMIC of the PSDs of all 43 police forces, Hampshire Constabulary was one of only 2 forces to receive a “Poor” grading.

Having supported officers in other police forces over the years; the conduct identified appears to be a standard response to silence and discredit such officers.

The level of misconduct and criminal acts could roughly be arranged by the degree of defensiveness to which a police force feels driven to act achieve their aim.

When I talk about police corruption, what I also mean is the lack of police accountability, that’s the real issue, there will always be corruption and people doing bad things and we can’t stop that , the fact that the police are not properly held to account where you and I would be as members of the public, is a great concern.

You will hear of serious criminal allegations made against officers of the Professional Standards Department including perverting the course of justice and the highest discipline sanction administered was also the lowest form of discipline sanction being “management advice”.

The police have great powers and when they abuse those powers to their own ends and are unaccountable, this does nothing to increase or maintain the trust and confidence of the public.

I may be seen to be a little controversial when I say that the Independent police Complaints Commission “IPCC” is also part of the problem but this will become much more clear as the story progresses and you will see how this works in practice.

The treatment of whistle blowers in many professions is awful however; the police service has many additional tools at its disposal to victimise such officers during which it is able to abuse its powers as it is largely unaccountable.

In this blog you will see a section entitled “Will they do the right thing” aimed at Chief Constable Olivia Pinkney and Police and Crime Commissioner Michael Lane.

Chief Constables tend to cover for their predecessors, the easiest method being simply to do nothing or try and pass the buck by passing any correspondence to their legal department.

It is not as simple for a police officer who has had allegations of misconduct reported to them, they don’t have a legal department and have to take some form of action, there should be no difference with a Chief Constable who has sworn the same oath.

This story will deal with my background, cover my transfer from the Metropolitan Police to Hampshire Constabulary which in the early stages could be likened to the movie “Hot Fuzz” but not so funny.

You will then be taken through a roller coaster ride of tribunals, court hearings and continual victimisation and harassment.
You will see how internally networked corruption works in the force and how the tentacles of corruption and back scratching can extend beyond a police force.

I formed some friends in the Black Police Association who approached me for help, I will describe how the Hampshire BPA was subsequently destroyed and it folded as a result of the victimisation of several members of its executive committee.

One Black police sergeant also raised his concerns directly with PSD and then resigned having been intimidated by a senior officer from PSD following his disclosures concerning racism and how black officers were being treated.

Similarly; the force had a Harassment Contact Officer’s scheme which had been running successfully for 10 years which was also shelved.

I formed the opinion that Hampshire Constabulary although professing to be a modern progressive force was actually still in the 1970s in its ways, the public and victims also came second.

We will touch on Paedophilia and how vulnerable young persons are dealt with in the force including being taken advantage of by police officers.

You will see how the level of victimisation can escalate to also include those who were supporting me including family members.

I was unable to get any support from Hampshire Police Federation and had to seek support from Federation representatives from other forces.

Two Police Federation representatives were also victimised for supporting me, one attempted suicide and self harmed, the other contemplated suicide.

During the course of my issues I also became aware of a dog handler in the Met who was a also a friend hanging himself as a result of his contact with the Professionals Standards department know as DPS in the Met Police.

It became apparent to me that there was a connection between the unnacountable behaviour of these departments and police suicide. I have not explored the connection with any deaths of members of the public however; I firmly believe that it is time that these units are disbanded.

Having seen what happened to my colleagues I formed a support group to try and help others in a similar situation.

At the height of my illness you will see a deterioration in my health to a stage where I just sat in an armchair facing the wall and was unable to speak, to this day I still have trouble finding words as a result of the trauma I suffered.

A family catering business was destroyed by the actions of the force resulting in the loss of 20 jobs, my wife and I for want of a better phrase were also “fitted up” by the Professional Standards Department of Hampshire Constabulary as a final nail in the coffin to ensure I did not return to the force.

I will be presenting the facts and you can make your mind up and ask any questions via this blog.

In the annals of history I appear to be the only police officer ever to have been dismissed from a police force without being given their right to a formal disciplinary hearing despite the allegation being that I disobeyed an express order from Chief Constable Paul Kernaghan.

I will talk about the Police Federation, Solicitors, barristers and organisations such as the HMIC and the CPS.

We will talk about employment tribunals including my own which; lacked transparency and as an example the employment Judge went on a course with  Chief Constable Kernaghan before the case had even concluded.

Disclosure in judicial proceedings will be another topic where the default position in Hampshire Constabulary appears to be destruction or concealment of relevant documents.

Returning to the page on this blog entitled “Will they do the right thing”, in relation to Michael Lane the PCC, he seems to have taken a page from the book of his predecessor.

Having made a formal allegation concerning the lack of action by the Chief Constable, the PCC’s office responded by letter I quote “ I am proposing that it is not dealt with under this Act and that it is the subject of a dissapplication on the grounds that it is in the category of those complaints that are vexatious, oppressive or otherwise an abuse of the procedures for dealing with complaints”.


You may think that this is an unusual response from the PCC who has not even sought to contact me to clarify anything; perhaps even to ask for some evidence so that he can make an informed decision. I will publish any progression on this matter.

So, I think that it is unlikely that either of them will do the right thing and Mr Lane does not seem keen on holding the Chief constable to account which is one of his functions.

We will then go on to life after “the job” and my own efforts to recover using outside support organisations as I found that within the police service such support was not available to police whistle blowers.

First chapter to be published in due course.
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.05.17 20:20

GoodCopDown: My Recovery

I have only just started on my journey to recovery which will no doubt be a long process with various what I call “blips” on the way.
Becoming ill can happen to anyone but it is a concern when a police force which is their to protect and serve can abuse their powers in such a way that can result in both their own colleagues and members of the public who are victims of crime to consider taking their own lives.

Since starting this blog, I have been contacted by members of the public who have recounted their own stories and struggles to seek justice.

It is not just police officers who are responsible in a police force but also civilian staff who have power to frustrate legitimate requests from members of the public and can range from departments who deal with subject access requests to in-house legal departments.
Their roles are essentially to protect the reputation of the force but more often than not draw more attention to their force in their attempts to cover up, I refer to this as internally networked corruption.

In private business, if individuals acted in the same way they would lose their job and the company may also lose valuable business.
To some extent such behaviour is encouraged by the lack of accountability of the police which; in recent times has been made less accountable by changes in the complaint’s system where the right to appeal to the Independent Police Complant’s Commission (IPCC) has been severely restricted.

What is not generally known is that police officers are not considered members of the public and as such do not have a right of appeal to the IPCC. This is not logical because a police officer must be a member of the public or a citizen before they can become a police officer however; it suits the IPCC to interpret the Police Reform Act in this way.

From my experience of dealing with the IPCC, I have not found them to be independent and have found that their failures encourage corruption within the police service.

So in a nutshell, each and every person or organisation that I may choose to  identify has played a part in the deterioration in the health and welfare of myself, my wife, colleagues and members of the public.

Who are we?

My wife and I are regular people, I was brought up in the east end of London and my wife worked as a staff nurse at the Whittington hospital when we first met.

My wife’s family including her father were all police officers and we had a great respect for the police service.

I spent the majority of my service in the CID and was fortunate to have served in Specialist Operations at New Scotland Yard and travelled abroad frequently.

In terms of mental health and fitness I was fortunate to have had may outside interests with an adventurous side where I served several years in the Royal Marines Reserve, enjoyed sailing and took part regularly in endurance desert events around the world; the last before transferring to Hampshire was the Marathon Des Sables, a a six-day, 251 km ultramarathon, which is approximately the distance of six regular marathons. The longest single stage is 91 km long. This multiday race is held every year in southern Morocco, in the Sahara Desert.

I would also assist the Sea and Marine Cadets when called upon as I felt I owed them a debt keeping me out of trouble when I was a youngster and introducing me to the joys of sailing, adventurous training etc, I wanted to motivate other youngsters and give them the same chances.

I also had a hobby as a close up magician which kept the grey cells working in coming up with new routines.

When I transferred to Hampshire police I also utilised my power boating skills and experience by becoming a member of the inshore lifeboat.

The reason that I mention all the above is that from being that person, I virtually became unrecognisable, put on a considerable amount of weight and stopped doing everything overnight as a result of our treatment by senior officers in Hampshire Constabulary and the PSD whic I attribute to having reported corruption directly to the head of the Professional Standards Department.

I broke the blue code of silence.

I got to a stage where I could not speak, could not have eye contact with anyone and sat in an armchair just staring at the wall.
My wife’s way of dealing with things at present is to simply block out what happened.

At the time my wife would hide under her duvet in bed which was the only place she felt safe and she would not answer the door.
I was fortunate to have a good GP on the Isle of Wight and a clinical Psychologist in Southsea who I paid privately for however; all the good the work they did was often undone by the continuing victimisation of the force.

The arrogance and bullying of a Deputy Chief Constable at the time was such that they threatened my GP in a statement for making suggestions regarding reasonable adjustments following an incident. I was ill at home and was threatened by former Deputy Chief Constable Ian Readhead who attended my home having been advised not to do so.

I have had no help or support from Hampshire Police Federation who appeared to be working for the benefit of themselves and the force rather than their members.

I don’t believe this situation is exclusive to Hampshire and appears to be standard practice in many forces.

The practice appears to make some as ill as possible so that they cave in, become labelled as having mental health problems, perhaps take their own life as a worst case scenario or perhaps a best case scenario for the force.

I was to discover that any help and assistance that was available did not apply to police whistleblowers and so this page may hopefully assist others who find themselves in a similar situation and may also assist me by hearing from others who have found their own ways of coping.

A former colleague I worked with in the Met has started his own blog which may also be of interest to other called mind Mainstream
http://mindmainstream.wordpress.com
That’s enough for this post today and good mental health everyone.
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.05.17 20:30

Public section



Since starting this blog, members of the public have come forward and I think that is important that their own stories are highlighted in the public interest especially, when they appear to relate to similar matters and the same police officers or public officials involved in similar conduct.
Deputy Chief Constable Sara Glen
 
This week I would suggest looking at Mr Caine’s story, his personal efforts resulted in a paedophile being investigated and prosecuted following a long battle with Hampshire Constabulary concerning their failures in this matter.

New Milton Watch – Facebook article courtesy of John Caine
Hampshire Constabulary. Good Cop Down.
The reality of being a police whistleblower.

How Hampshire Constabulary maliciously targets and harrasses whistle blowers who point out child sexual abuse.

This is a story that will definitely interest people who are concerned about the ever quickening and unchecked slide of Hampshire Police into abject corruption when it comes to targeting people who expose uncomfortable truths about its failings and insidious cover ups.

I for one can believe it entirely as it mirrors my experience of Hampshire Constabulary in reference to its refusal to investigate the Arnewood School teacher in New Milton a now convicted child sex offender, not once, but twice, despite damning evidence. In fact had it been left up to Hampshire Constabulary this individual would have been left at large unchecked. And of course we are all familiar with the ongoing Stanbridge Earls School cover up.

I too now know first hand how an unethical Professional Standards Department routinely perverts the course of justice to protect unearned reputations and police officers who should really be taken off the streets and locked up for serious misconduct, along with the PSD staff who protect them.

And all to protect the reputations of public officials and those people in local government who are part of the established clique, and the police officers who cover up for them. Even to the extent of subjecting your children to serious risk of sexual abuse.

In fact in the case of the Arnewood School teacher he could have been prevented from committing all the 17 offences he was later convicted of if Hampshire Police had not looked the other way not on one occasion, but TWO.
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Post by Verdi on 18.05.17 21:00

My god, what a courageous man - my heart goes out to him and his family, good colleagues and friends.

Apart from that words fail me.

I was only just reading in the Police Oracle..

Home Secretary says Conservative approach to policing will remain the same.

https://www.policeoracle.com/

There's one for your party manifesto Maggie May !!!

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.05.17 21:03

He's had loads of new followers tonight since I posted this here and on facebook.

What a shocking blog.

Plus I've had a few more police whistleblowers follow me on twitter.

Come on all you good coppers, let's be having you !
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Post by Verdi on 18.05.17 21:12

For the first time ever in this sorry saga, I'm beginning to feel optimistic.

The rot might be able to crush individuals as and when but it's not so easy to crush a baying mob.  Why not revert to a medieval mentality - that's how the system is operating, like an administration of deranged dictators.

Just read in the Police Oracle newsletter - the Home Secretary says that the Conservative approach to policing will remain the same.

Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!

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Post by Verdi on 18.05.17 21:22

God bless CMoMM !!! 

The leading light in the darkest of ages.

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Post by sandancer on 18.05.17 23:19

The courage of this man to bare his heart and soul deserves every accolade known to man .

To him and his family , I say thank you and that's not a good enough word .

Thank you for your strength , your belief in what is right .

It's not often I'm lost for words , but I will say this 

Words have power , you sir are using this power . Carry on , I hope others will follow your lead .

To you and your family I wish peace , blessings and light .

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Post by Verdi on 18.05.17 23:29

@sandancer wrote:The courage of this man to bare his heart and soul deserves every accolade known to man .

To him and his family , I say thank you and that's not a good enough word .

Thank you for your strength , your belief in what is right .

It's not often I'm lost for words , but I will say this 

Words have power , you sir are using this power . Carry on , I hope others will follow your lead .

To you and your family I wish peace , blessings and light .
AMEN !!!

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Post by BlueBag on 19.05.17 7:10

@Verdi wrote:Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!
Which party is going to change the status quo?

I don't see one.

They'll make promises, get elected and nothing will change.

I hate our elections. It's not democracy. One "X" every 5 years on every single issue going. Meaningless.
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Post by Mirage on 19.05.17 9:46

The trouble with the upper echelons of the police is that they clearly  operate a closed shop which nobody is going to penetrate. This arrogance, allied with unaccountabilty, has been incubating for years  and is now manifest in the routine lies, and blatant obfuscation we see in the McCann case.

When you've got Theresa May introducing Kate McCann to the Duchess of Gloucester you are receiving a message of outright defiance about those deemed above the law.

I think there should be written above every voting booth "Abandon hope all ye who enter here".

In short the system is nigh on indestructable and Theresa May's rhetoric is meaningless white noise.

In my opinion things will only deteriorate when she gets in on a landslide and we effectively become a one-party state. In May's language that's an endorsement for more of the same.

Watch the eyes. It's all written there.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 19.05.17 10:10

@BlueBag wrote:
@Verdi wrote:Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!
Which party is going to change the status quo?

I don't see one.

They'll make promises, get elected and nothing will change.

I hate our elections. It's not democracy. One "X" every 5 years on every single issue going. Meaningless.


I saw this on facebook at the last general election.
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Post by JRP on 19.05.17 10:13

Thanks Get'em for putting this up, I for one will be following this blog and hoping that this person, and others like him can make a difference.

The police is not the only organisation where the people you complain to, are friendly with the people you are complaining about. 
Not surprising then, when your complaint is whitewashed and your concerns are turned against you.
It is an organisation however, who's conduct affects all of us, and society in general; those who whistle blow should be protected, even when they need protection from the very people who are supposed to protect us.
Society needs to trust it's police. Cases of police corruption and police closing ranks to protect themselves only drives the divide and creates an "us and them" mentality. 

In the Lee Balkwell thread, Tony Bennett mentions the Masonic connection between a high ranking police officer, and another so called "professional" involved in the case.
In the Hillsborough fight for justice, a Masonic connection was also mentioned, as there also, police officers closed ranks to protect one of their own. Despite a verdict of Unlawful Killing, reached just over 12 months ago, this person has yet not faced a criminal trial.
I would suggest that the law is the law, and the law should encompass everyone in our society, no matter who you are. Resignation from the police force should not make for immunity from the consequences of wrong doing whilst in the job.

There should be no reason why any police officer should be a member of a Masonic Lodge. There should be a law forbidding the Masonic membership accepting a police officer into the secretive ranks of the Masons, because it opens up a can of worms in regards to where their loyalties lie.
To put it simply, a crime is not investigated fully because of a secret friendship/allegiance born from membership of the Masons between he who committed the crime and he who should bring that person to book.

Anyway. I'm getting off topic, so I slap myself and go and do something else confused

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 19.05.17 10:18

I have another new police whistleblower follower on twitter and this is his website http://ukcorruptpolice.com/

He also needs more followers so that his story gets heard. If we can help them then they can help us!



Many will wonder why I run this website.  The simple answer is, a Lancashire POLICE INFORMER. (aka, snitch)

The story is well publicised, but in a nutshell, I employed a man, Paul Turner, from Skelmersdale, who I had to dismiss for gross misconduct.

This is the story in the Liverpool ECHO, (click here) Paul Turner is the referenced ‘web troll‘ in the story.

After his dismissal he decided to take revenge, threatening to KILL my wife and children.  The Police seemed uninterested even with evidence of the threats.  He continued to post sickening comments about me and my family on the internet even going so far as brandishing me a paedophile on dozens of websites including saying I abused my own children.  Lancashire Police were informed and still did nothing.

It was pretty obvious he was getting ‘special treatment‘ from Lancashire Police because he is/was a Police Informer, aka a Snitch.  Lancashire Police were doing their very best to protect him.

I will not go into great detail as it is publish elsewhere (here mainly) but because I blogged on my awful experience of the last 4 years caused by this Police Informer trying to harm me, and Lancashire Police doing nothing about it (even providing the snitch with personal information about my children to cause more harm), I blogged it all, exposing Lancashire Police misconduct.

He was also investigated for racism, Lancashire Police confirmed his posts were racist but did NOTHING.

Now, he has gone crying to Google saying all the material I publish (all true) is harassing him!  Google have put some blocks on my sites but this has been counter claimed.  This is his complaint!
 
These websites are maintained by the same individual to harass me Paul Turner. They are filled with defamatory comments claiming Im a drug dealer, a cocaine addict, steroid abuser, a web troll, that I make threats to kill women and children, that Im a racist, a snitch, that i have broken the law and that i am a Police informer. These are all untrue and cause me great distress and embarrassment.

Everything the snitch said above I can prove 100% true.  This is his report below.


http://ukcorruptpolice.com/police-informer-reasons-site/
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Post by sallypelt on 19.05.17 10:40

Police officers 'on the beat without background checks'


Devon and Cornwall Police have been named in a BBC investigation as one of 17 police forces in England and Wales with a backlog of police officers and police community support officers "on the beat" without background checks, freedom of information requests have revealed.



 



Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary, Mike Cunningham, said forces "need to address this matter urgently".



Thousands of police officers across the UK have not had up-to-date background checks to ensure they are suitable to serve. The investigation found about 14,000 police officers in England, Wales and Northern Ireland had not undergone the checks.



Devon and Cornwall Police said they were "working hard" to tackle the delays and had reduced the backlog of unvetted police officers from 181 to 73, and the number of unvetted PCSOs from 62 to 55 since the end of 2016.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-devon-39926049

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 19.05.17 10:48

And another police whistleblower has just followed me on twitter
https://twitter.com/holliehope89
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Post by plebgate on 19.05.17 11:10

@Mirage wrote:The trouble with the upper echelons of the police is that they clearly  operate a closed shop which nobody is going to penetrate. This arrogance, allied with unaccountabilty, has been incubating for years  and is now manifest in the routine lies, and blatant obfuscation we see in the McCann case.

When you've got Theresa May introducing Kate McCann to the Duchess of Gloucester you are receiving a message of outright defiance about those deemed above the law.

I think there should be written above every voting booth "Abandon hope all ye who enter here".

In short the system is nigh on indestructable and Theresa May's rhetoric is meaningless white noise.

In my opinion things will only deteriorate when she gets in on a landslide and we effectively become a one-party state. In May's language that's an endorsement for more of the same.

Watch the eyes. It's all written there.
Nail on head with this post.

Outright defiance about those deemed above the law - completely agree.

None of them care about the cannon fodder.   I saw some of the debate last night and had to turn off.   How on earth these people become leaders I just do not understand and if that's the best on offer yet again  - well Great Britain is surely doomed.

Tim Farron needs to get real about Brexit and also this policy of legalising Cannabis.    Building up major health problems for the many who use it in their old age.   How many more times do these people need telling from scientists that it causes mental health problems and if things are bad now with an ageing population and dementia care then watch out in the next 50 years.

We know what the problems are with smoking and drink related health issues but now he seriously wants us to vote to legalise yet another drug which will cause major health issues in old age.

I despair of all of these leaders and the way they jump on band wagon to look "hip".

A bunch of old has beens the lot of them.   Let's have some new, vibrant positive thinkers representing us but the establishment do not want that, oh no that would never do.

How low do we have to go before things start to go on the up for all of the many decent British people who are sick and tired of the way they are treated year after year after year?

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Post by plebgate on 19.05.17 11:18

Thanks for the OP GEG.   This whole country is sinking in the mess of corruption and nepotism and they all just laugh in our faces.

I hope all these efforts are rewarded and maybe will bring about a real change.

A law forcing all public servants to declare membership of secret societies should be made and those who refuse should be sacked.

Also employing friends and families should be made illegal.

Also quango members should be forced to reveal any connections.

Jobs for the boys and girls should be OUTLAWED pronto.

Will Terri May act - err I wont be holding my breath.

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Post by Verdi on 19.05.17 11:52

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@Verdi wrote:Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!
Which party is going to change the status quo?
There ain't one.  Don't vote - then we can all sit back and watch the meltdown.

My comment was really aimed at the Tories as it was Theresa May wearing the Home Secretary hat, who commissioned the farcical Operation Grange and continues so to do now she is Premier.  We have witnessed the pathetic excuses spewed forth by very senior Metropolitan Police officers, to justify continuation of this bogus criminal investigation into a missing three year old child, of unprecedented proportions.  Still it continues and still no official in power does anything to smash this archaic system of rife corruption.

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Post by willowthewisp on 19.05.17 13:09

@Verdi wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:
@Verdi wrote:Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!
Which party is going to change the status quo?
There ain't one.  Don't vote - then we can all sit back and watch the meltdown.

My comment was really aimed at the Tories as it was Theresa May wearing the Home Secretary hat, who commissioned the farcical Operation Grange and continues so to do now she is Premier.  We have witnessed the pathetic excuses spewed forth by very senior Metropolitan Police officers, to justify continuation of this bogus criminal investigation into a missing three year old child, of unprecedented proportions.  Still it continues and still no official in power does anything to smash this archaic system of rife corruption.
Hi Verdi, I agree completely about the amount of corruption being exposed of Police"Misconduct"and the amount being uncovered is most alarming,is the length of time it has been left unexposed-Covered Up,last fifty,Sixty Years or longer?
The BBC are about to show a New Documentary on the Metropolitan Police Service on the"Protection of Law and Order"on the streets of London,is this to diffuse recent highlighted cases,Operation Grange-Remit?
Little wonder that Sir Bernard Hogan Howe has slipped off into Golfing mode retirement,"Four"smash?
I wonder if they will dare to show the"dark side"of the abuses directed to Time Served Police Officers,who had wished to"Serve & Protect"the public against criminal behaviour and the Crimes committed by the offenders(The Brother hood)as shown in Good Cop Down story,revelations?

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 19.05.17 14:11

And other former police officer comes aboard on twitter
https://twitter.com/johnwrighty
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Post by JRP on 19.05.17 14:59

@willowthewisp wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:
@Verdi wrote:Electorate please read this heart wrenching blog before casting your vote !!!
Which party is going to change the status quo?
There ain't one.  Don't vote - then we can all sit back and watch the meltdown.

My comment was really aimed at the Tories as it was Theresa May wearing the Home Secretary hat, who commissioned the farcical Operation Grange and continues so to do now she is Premier.  We have witnessed the pathetic excuses spewed forth by very senior Metropolitan Police officers, to justify continuation of this bogus criminal investigation into a missing three year old child, of unprecedented proportions.  Still it continues and still no official in power does anything to smash this archaic system of rife corruption.
Hi Verdi, I agree completely about the amount of corruption being exposed of Police"Misconduct"and the amount being uncovered is most alarming,is the length of time it has been left unexposed-Covered Up,last fifty,Sixty Years or longer?
The BBC are about to show a New Documentary on the Metropolitan Police Service on the"Protection of Law and Order"on the streets of London,is this to diffuse recent highlighted cases,Operation Grange-Remit?
Little wonder that Sir Bernard Hogan Howe has slipped off into Golfing mode retirement,"Four"smash?
I wonder if they will dare to show the"dark side"of the abuses directed to Time Served Police Officers,who had wished to"Serve & Protect"the public against criminal behaviour and the Crimes committed by the offenders(The Brother hood)as shown in Good Cop Down story,revelations?

@willowthewisp The Beeb and other TV companies do like a good ol' cop show, especially ones which show action, car chases and somebody getting his/her collar felt. This Met show is well timed, I thought so too. Let's show the Met in a good light, keeping the streets safe an' all.

Going back 50 or 60 years of course, takes us back to the late 1950's and the 1960's. A time when the Met had gangs on their patch. 
The most famous being The Richardson's, known as The Torturers in South London and The Kray's in the East.
The Richardson's started as scrap metal dealers, and paid off "Bobbies on the beat" with small weekly cash payments to turn a blind eye to stolen cars, nicked lead off rooves etc. 
Higher ranking detectives had holiday's paid for as a perk to keep quiet.

The Kray Firm however are a far more interesting story. 
In their early days, Harold McMillan was the Tory Prime Minister, and Robert Boothby, later to be Lord Boothby was having an affair with McMillan's wife.
However, Boothby was bisexual or simply gay, and he was having a gay relationship with an East London cat burglar called Leslie Holt. Homosexuality back then was illegal, so gays in any form of power were open to blackmail.
Ronnie Kray, was also gay, and he was also having a relationship with Leslie Holt, he'd moved into a flat in the same Cedra Court block where Holt lived. 
He threw parties there and also knew Boothby from Kray clubland "The Regal" and "Esmerelda's".
Boothby through McMillan, became a Tory Peer.

In the meantime, Ronnie Kray knew another gay MP, this time a Labour MP called  Tom Dryburgh who was a journalist, a friend of Lord Beaverbrook. Dryburgh did a favour for his lover Teddy Smith, "Mad Teddy Smith" was a Kray firm associate. Dryburgh had a prisoner friend of the Kray's moved nearer to home so, his family could visit him more easily.

So Ronnie Kray now had two politicians in his pocket, one a Conservative Peer Lord Boothby, and one a Labour MP Tom Dryburgh who also had connections to the press.

That's why the Krays felt invincible, untouchable, even when McMillan's Conservatives gave way to Harold Wilsons Labour government. They were pretty much left alone as McMillan like Wilson feared a scandal.
Of course, the Kray's pushed their luck to far, and ended up doing 30+ years in jail.

Boothby and Dryburgh however, just got on with life. In the end, the establishment brushes it's dirt under it's carpet and hopes nobody notices or remembers.

But for those who say conspiracies of silence through government/establishment control aren't possible, the Kray's association with societies elite shows it can and does happen.
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Post by Verdi on 19.05.17 15:39

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So Ronnie Kray now had two politicians in his pocket, one a Conservative Peer Lord Boothby, and one a Labour MP Tom Dryburgh who also had connections to the press.
The Krays and their crime syndicate had more than a couple of politicians in their pocket.  They also rubbed shoulders with high profile celebrities, like Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland and Diana Dors - if I remember rightly even good old national treasure Barbara Windsor had a dabble.

In the 60's the Krays were looked on as celebrities themselves.  Amazing they ended up behind bars - just shows you, it can be done with perseverance!

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 19.05.17 15:51

Another police officer following me with a shocking blog  https://depresseddetective.wordpress.com/

https://twitter.com/saddetective
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Post by Patience on 19.05.17 15:55

@Verdi wrote:
@JRP wrote:
So Ronnie Kray now had two politicians in his pocket, one a Conservative Peer Lord Boothby, and one a Labour MP Tom Dryburgh who also had connections to the press.
The Krays and their crime syndicate had more than a couple of politicians in their pocket.  They also rubbed shoulders with high profile celebrities, like Frank Sinatra, Judy Garland and Diana Dors - if I remember rightly even good old national treasure Barbara Windsor had a dabble.

In the 60's the Krays were looked on as celebrities themselves.  Amazing they ended up behind bars - just shows you, it can be done with perseverance!
Ronnie Kray also received correspondence from Cliff - lest we forget!

As an aside, the Labour MP was Tom Driberg. 

A very murky business all round. 
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