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**NEW** Daily Mirrors, 18, 21 & 22 Apr - EX-DETECTIVE COLIN SUTTON IS ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTING TO THIS THREAD (was: Daily Mirror, 18 Apr 2017 "What REALLY happened the night Madeleine disappeared")

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Post by Phoebe on 18.04.17 13:30

Such drivel! Kate could hardly be described as "catatonic" ( impervious to all stimuli though conscious) while she was breaking up beds, banging her wrists on railings, screaming and wailing while adopting the "Praying Arab" position. The nannies were so afraid of inviting rape that they posed for photos in states of considerable undress and one brave nanny recounted taking a short-cut, alone across the dark beach on her way back from a night-club to join in the search that night.
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.04.17 13:35






Here are the terrified nannies - with their rape alarms tucked into their bras ?
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Post by MRNOODLES on 18.04.17 14:49

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:




Here are the terrified nannies - with their rape alarms tucked into their bras ?

Ah so it was all a typo. Gerry wasn't looking under cars. He was looking under br.......
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Post by ChippyM on 18.04.17 15:17

@MrsC wrote:
@Portia wrote:Quote:

*Snipped*

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They may well be trained doctors used to seeing dead bodies, day in day out, but they were not used to seeing the dead body of their own child, and knowing how that death occurred.

The catatonic state could have come about through shock and release - she knew her daughter was dead but had been keeping up a pretence of normality, once that pretence was able to be over 'normal' senses regarding the death of her child took over, hence the catatonic state

I agree with this and from footage of the days afterwards, it seems Mrs is more shocked and numb looking than Gerry. She often has her head bowed and looks in shock. It's as if she witnessed something that he didn't, then the plan to stage an abduction was concocted.

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Post by Verdi on 18.04.17 15:21



Ocean Club nanny Kirsty Maryan posing as 'Miss Massage'

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Post by Verdi on 18.04.17 15:27



......only nine days after Madeleine allegedly disappeared.

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.04.17 15:35

@ChippyM wrote:
@MrsC wrote:
@Portia wrote:Quote:

*Snipped*

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They may well be trained doctors used to seeing dead bodies, day in day out, but they were not used to seeing the dead body of their own child, and knowing how that death occurred.

The catatonic state could have come about through shock and release - she knew her daughter was dead but had been keeping up a pretence of normality, once that pretence was able to be over 'normal' senses regarding the death of her child took over, hence the catatonic state

I agree with this and from footage of the days afterwards, it seems Mrs is more shocked and numb looking than Gerry. She often has her head bowed and looks in shock. It's as if she witnessed something that he didn't, then the plan to stage an abduction was concocted.
It didn't take her long to get over it though.
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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.04.17 16:19



PeterMac sent me this one to go with Gerry's other SuperProf pictures big grin

It wasn't me!

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Post by pennylane on 18.04.17 16:19

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:

PeterMac sent me this one to go with Gerry's other SuperProf pictures big grin

It wasn't me!

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Daily mirror article.

Post by willowthewisp on 18.04.17 16:25

@pennylane wrote:
@Get'emGonçalo wrote:

PeterMac sent me this one to go with Gerry's other SuperProf pictures big grin

It wasn't me!

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It isn't Simon Cowell's mate either,bursting out of his"Save the Children" disguise in his favourite Black Cab mode of transport!

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Post by suzyjohnson on 18.04.17 17:25

' .........Breaking her silence after 10 years, the witness also claimed the resort from which Madeleine vanished was considered so unsafe nannies were handed rape alarms and told to not go out alone ........'


Women are taking a risk walking on their own late at night anywhere. It sounds like sensible advice to me..

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Post by sharonl on 18.04.17 17:31

So why did the 16 year old daughter of the McCanns co-ordinating lawyer & fund director who holidayed in PDL for 13 before 2007, say on the Ocean Club Facebook page that the Ocean Club was a lovely safe place.

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Post by Phoebe on 18.04.17 18:00

Absolutely disgusted. Irish Independent now running a precis of the nanny story and censoring even mild factual comments!! What skin have they in this game? They regularly allow comments calling the Taoiseach (P.M) and government ministers of all parties blithering idiots and n'er do wells but are extremely picky about all comments re. a couple of British doctors and a decade old unsolved crime.
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Post by Captain_Pugwash on 18.04.17 18:49

To be fair to the McCann spin team there had to be an incident of this nature to re-focus the idea of sexual deviance as opposed to the 10th anniversary boring line "Madeleine has been missing for 10 years and nobody has seen her since, we have been engaged in legal battles with the bungling Portuguese Police for almost a decade". Now they can sensationalise and say"LOOK, We have found one of our child carers of the day, a group who was so TERRIFIED of being out in the dark on their own with all these PORTUGUESE SEX PREDATORS that they were all issued with RAPE ALARMS".
I wonder what the Portuguese tourist board will make of that. Hardly an invite to holiday in the Algarve?
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Post by kaz on 18.04.17 19:26

Not sure where to put this but please move if necessary :

QUOTE FROM PAMELA  FENN’S STATEMENT   PJ FILES.

 

‘’ She also refers to the day of the 1st May 2007, when she was at home alone, at approximately 22.30 she heard a child cry, and that due the tone of the crying seemed to be a young child and not a baby of two years of age or younger. Apart from the crying that continued for approximately one hour and fifteen minutes, and which got louder and more expressive, the child shouted ?Daddy, Daddy?, the witness had no doubt that the noise came from the floor below. At about 23.45, an hour and fifteen minutes after the crying began, she heard the parents arrive, she did not see them, but she heard the patio doors open, she was quite worried as the crying had gone on for more than an hour and had gradually got worse……………’’

 

 

FROM SUNDAY EXPRESS MAY 2013

SCOTLAND YARD detectives are trying to find a middle-aged couple said to have entered Madeleine McCann’s holiday apartment to comfort her because she was crying, we can reveal today.

By [url=http://www.express.co.uk/search?s= James murray&b=1]James Murray[/url]

It is believed they entered the bedroom on May 2, 2007, the evening before Madeleine disappeared from the Ocean Club at Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve.

The tip-off was given by two key witnesses who were reinterviewed as part of the Yard’s two-year, £4.5million  investigation.

It is already known that Pamela Fenn, who lived directly above apartment 5a, heard a child, believed to be Madeleine, crying for about an hour on the evening of May 2.

Sloppy reporting or what?

I can’t find it at the moment but didn’t Kate confuse the alleged Tuesday crying with Wednesday at one point    ? Her cry of,  ‘They’ve taken her’ and her remark to Yvonne Martin that a couple had taken Madeleine together  with the above article begins to sound like a preconceived story . Maybe it was Mrs Fenn who didn’t quite stick to the story line. Interesting that this ‘couple’ appear to have dissolved into thin air    never to be seen again. You’d have thought Team McCann would be moving heaven and earth to find them.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 18.04.17 19:39

@Captain_Pugwash wrote: ........ there had to be an incident of this nature to re-focus the idea of sexual deviance as opposed to the 10th anniversary boring line "Madeleine has been missing for 10 years and nobody has seen her since, we have been engaged in legal battles with the bungling Portuguese Police for almost a decade". Now they can sensationalise and say"LOOK, We have found one of our child carers of the day, a group who was so TERRIFIED of being out in the dark on their own with all these PORTUGUESE SEX PREDATORS that they were all issued with RAPE ALARMS".
I wonder what the Portuguese tourist board will make of that. Hardly an invite to holiday in the Algarve?

Yes. Again. More people paying for the McCanns mistakes.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 18.04.17 19:52

@kaz wrote:
I can’t find it at the moment but didn’t Kate confuse the alleged Tuesday crying with Wednesday at one point    ? Her cry of,  ‘They’ve taken her’ and her remark to Yvonne Martin that a couple had taken Madeleine together  with the above article begins to sound like a preconceived story ....... Interesting that this ‘couple’ appear to have dissolved into thin air    never to be seen again. You’d have thought Team McCann would be moving heaven and earth to find them.

Yes, it's very odd. I don't know where that story originated, maybe witnesses spotted one of the other tapas couples outside the McCann apartment on the Wednesday, maybe they called there on the way to the tapas?

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Post by Columbo on 18.04.17 19:57

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:Thanks to tigger:

A GERMAN CONDUCTOR WAS REHEARSING HIS ORCHESTRA AT ONE TIME AND LOST HIS PATIENCE WHEN THE SECOND FLUTE PLAYED THE SAME WRONG NOTE AGAIN:
''SEGONDE FLUTE!" HE SHOUTED, "SOMETIMES I CAN STAND YOUR DAMNA NONSENSE, BUT NOW AND ALWAYS, NEVAIR!!"


Exactly how I felt this morning on reading the Mirror article. So here it is, with a few corrections and observations.


Thank you Get'Em and Tigger. I saw this article this afternoon and was reading through going "wrong!", "not true!", "this has got to be planted..."  Thank you for restoring some of my sanity with your patient rebuttals.
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Post by ChippyM on 18.04.17 20:22

@suzyjohnson wrote:' .........Breaking her silence after 10 years, the witness also claimed the resort from which Madeleine vanished was considered so unsafe nannies were handed rape alarms and told to not go out alone ........'


Women are taking a risk walking on their own late at night anywhere. It sounds like sensible advice to me..

Indeed... and of course it could be just as likely other tourists bothering women as much as it could be locals.....if there was a problem at all.   But we all know only foreigners commit such crimes   sad        


Child snatchers, Rapists, smelly burglars, child traffikers, child abusers, parents that lose their rag and cause accidents......all foreigners and never nice British people!

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Post by petunia on 18.04.17 21:00

Reading the story from the bottom to the top makes more sense to me than readingIt from the top to the bottom Imo, but thats just me.

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Post by suespeaking on 18.04.17 21:08

How coincidental that this revelation comes in the run up to the 10th anniversary!

Wonder why she kept so quiet for 10 years?
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Post by sallypelt on 18.04.17 21:25

@suzyjohnson wrote:' .........Breaking her silence after 10 years, the witness also claimed the resort from which Madeleine vanished was considered so unsafe nannies were handed rape alarms and told to not go out alone ........'


Women are taking a risk walking on their own late at night anywhere. It sounds like sensible advice to me..
Is this the same nanny who "broke her silence" in October 2007?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487506/Revealed-The-nanny-help-clear-McCanns-name.html

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 18.04.17 21:31

@sallypelt wrote:
@suzyjohnson wrote:' .........Breaking her silence after 10 years, the witness also claimed the resort from which Madeleine vanished was considered so unsafe nannies were handed rape alarms and told to not go out alone ........'


Women are taking a risk walking on their own late at night anywhere. It sounds like sensible advice to me..
Is this the same nanny who "broke her silence" in October 2007?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487506/Revealed-The-nanny-help-clear-McCanns-name.html
No, that was Cat Baker.

This latest one is Cat Baker. 

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Post by mootle on 18.04.17 21:57

And somewhere, far far away, forgotten and ignored, is a small voice.

A tiny voice crying to be heard. 

"What about me?"

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Post by sharonl on 18.04.17 22:03

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@suzyjohnson wrote:' .........Breaking her silence after 10 years, the witness also claimed the resort from which Madeleine vanished was considered so unsafe nannies were handed rape alarms and told to not go out alone ........'


Women are taking a risk walking on their own late at night anywhere. It sounds like sensible advice to me..
Is this the same nanny who "broke her silence" in October 2007?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-487506/Revealed-The-nanny-help-clear-McCanns-name.html
No, that was Cat Baker.

This latest one is Cat Baker. 

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Did Cat Baker agree to staged photoshoots along  with the MCanns? Did she get paid as well?

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