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Post by polyenne on 24.04.17 10:19

I'm sure there are but getting it out there and passed the litigious TM is the issue.
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Post by sallypelt on 24.04.17 10:20

I  wouldn't take too much notice of what these dying rags are saying. I have seen nothing about this Australian programme being discussed by any reputable medium.  Like those in this cover-up, these gutter press tabloids are fighting for their lives. They are just like wounded animals.

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Post by Irene 2 on 24.04.17 10:41

@polyenne wrote:I'm sure there are but getting it out there and passed the litigious TM is the issue.

Without question.

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Post by skyrocket on 25.04.17 9:37

In the petrol station yesterday, the Daily Mirror was handed to me free. The front page reads 'Maddie was Snatched for Rich Family' - 'Ex-cop fears she was smuggled into Africa by traffickers', by Martin Fricker. The story is on pages 4/5, complete with a photo of the couple.

My focus here is not ex-cop Colin Sutton's input, but rather that of married couple Mari Olli and Ray Pollard. The hard copy names them and includes a photo of the couple, whereas the online version is much abridged and doesn't.

These are the facts, as reported:

- Mari and husband Ray currently live in Fuengirola (Costa del Sol);
- on 9 May 2007 they were on hols in Marrekech, Morocco when Mari and Ray spot a child dressed in pale blue pyjamas, speaking English;
- on returning home (UK or Spain?), and hearing about Madeleine's disappearance they report the sighting to the Met - believing that the child they saw was Madeleine. Getting no response from the Met, they contact Leicester police and they say that they then hear nothing from the PJ.


Ray Pollard lives in Spain - he appears to combine photography and a car key replacement business, 'A1 Security Systems'.

His home town is Leicester.

http://raypollardphotography.com/About.html
https://www.facebook.com/ray.pollard.583

On Ray Pollard's Facebook page, he is friends with Laura Harding (nee Pollard), who appears to be his daughter as he is seated next to her on the top table at her wedding, and Mark Harding, Laura's husband.

https://www.facebook.com/mark.harding.399488?lst=100003292750260%3A894215723%3A1493108235

The Harding's live in Leicester, and since 2000, Mark Harding has described himself on Facebook as an ECMO Specialist in the NHS - an extremely worthwhile profession.

The only place for such a specialist to work in the area would be Glenfield Hospital.
Mark Harding has been campaigning for the ECMO Centre at Glenfield on his Facebook page.

ECMO is a life sustaining process for adults and children with heart and lung failure. Glenfield Hospital in Leicester is described as one of the world's busiest ECMO centres and it is the only one in the UK that treats children as well as adults.

Gerry McCann is a heart specialist at Glenfield Hospital - he has worked there since the early 2000's.

It's a small world.

(ps-the above was all easy to check as The Daily Mirror kindly provided a photo of both Ray and his wife Mari.)










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Post by sallypelt on 25.04.17 10:48

@skyrocket wrote:In the petrol station yesterday, the Daily Mirror was handed to me free. The front page reads 'Maddie was Snatched for Rich Family' - 'Ex-cop fears she was smuggled into Africa by traffickers', by Martin Fricker. The story is on pages 4/5, complete with a photo of the couple.

My focus here is not ex-cop Colin Sutton's input, but rather that of married couple Mari Olli and Ray Pollard. The hard copy names them and includes a photo of the couple, whereas the online version is much abridged and doesn't.

These are the facts, as reported:

- Mari and husband Ray currently live in Fuengirola (Costa del Sol);
- on 9 May 2007 they were on hols in Marrekech, Morocco when Mari and Ray spot a child dressed in pale blue pyjamas, speaking English;
- on returning home (UK or Spain?), and hearing about Madeleine's disappearance they report the sighting to the Met - believing that the child they saw was Madeleine. Getting no response from the Met, they contact Leicester police and they say that they then hear nothing from the PJ.


Ray Pollard lives in Spain - he appears to combine photography and a car key replacement business, 'A1 Security Systems'.

His home town is Leicester.

http://raypollardphotography.com/About.html
https://www.facebook.com/ray.pollard.583

On Ray Pollard's Facebook page, he is friends with Laura Harding (nee Pollard), who appears to be his daughter as he is seated next to her on the top table at her wedding, and Mark Harding, Laura's husband.

https://www.facebook.com/mark.harding.399488?lst=100003292750260%3A894215723%3A1493108235

The Harding's live in Leicester, and since 2000, Mark Harding has described himself on Facebook as an ECMO Specialist in the NHS - an extremely worthwhile profession.

The only place for such a specialist to work in the area would be Glenfield Hospital.
Mark Harding has been campaigning for the ECMO Centre at Glenfield on his Facebook page.

ECMO is a life sustaining process for adults and children with heart and lung failure. Glenfield Hospital in Leicester is described as one of the world's busiest ECMO centres and it is the only one in the UK that treats children as well as adults.

Gerry McCann is a heart specialist at Glenfield Hospital - he has worked there since the early 2000's.

It's a small world.

(ps-the above was all easy to check as The Daily Mirror kindly provided a photo of both Ray and his wife Mari.)










A bit more on Mari Olli 



The Norwegian social worker who says that she saw Madeleine McCann in Morroco is married to Ray Polard, born and raised at Leicester, and the couple lived for some time in Groby, a ten minutes ride from Rothley, where the McCann live, and five minutes from the hospital where Gerry MaCann works. Mari Olli and her husband live in Spain, Málaga. Since Madeleine disappeared, Polícia Judiciária had to send teams of investigators to 256 diferent localities, in Portugal, to investigate alleged sightings of the missing child, accordind to Carlos Anjos, president of ASFIC, PJ Inspector's Union.

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Post by sallypelt on 25.04.17 10:56

Now, let's debunk this Mari Olli story:

Mari Olli, the “Norwegian tourist” that saw Madeleine in Morocco, is married with Ray Pollard, who was born and raised in Groby, close to Glenfield Hospital, where Gerry McCann has been working since 2000.

Moroccan police said also that Mari Olli made a mistake, when she identified the gas station where she and her husband stopped, on their way to catch the ferry to Spain, as being close to the train station. This was the the first information relayed to Portuguese Police.

When Portuguese Police contacted the Moroccan Police, they were informed that it wasn't possible, because the shop from that gas station was out of service.

After several contacts between Portuguese Police and Mrs Mari Olli, it was explained that the gas station she referred was near the Hotel Ibis Palmeraie, not the Hotel Ibis Moussafir, both in Marrakesh.

Moroccan Police checked the CCTV cameras from the shop at the gas station near Ibis Plameraie, did the same with the CCTV cameras from both hotels and seized the videos.

In the video from the shop at the gas station, according to the same source from Moroccan Police, Mrs Mari Pollard is seen coming inside the shop and buying water and other small items. But there is no child at all, in the images taken inside the shop
. Also, in the videos from CCTV cameras at both hotels there is no child that looks like Madeleine.

Further questioning to the employees of both gas stations and hotels produced “no evidence at all”, according to the Moroccan Police, about the presence of a four-years-old blonde girl.“ We investigated in detail every report and information, including the ransom notes, we checked CCTV cameras from Tanger's port and Marrakesh airport, we questioned passengers and workers and there was nothing that could give consistence to the possibility that Madeleine has been in Morocco”, said the source form local police.
Oh dear!
http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t20323-p-reis-about-the-sighting-from-mari-olli

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Post by skyrocket on 25.04.17 11:24

@sallypelt

Thanks very much for the above.

Hope this sighting isn't the main one TM are relying on to promote the abduction theory!

So ......... Back to the same old question - what persuaded Mari Olli to give seemingly false statements to the police and to continue to back up her claims 10 years later, with the full support of her husband? Is it merely down to ££££££££? Why no follow up from the UK police with Olli when the Moroccan police said it was all a load of twaddle - or more importantly, now? Why are the couple still prepared to have their names/faces connected to this rubbish in national newspapers? 

There seems to be an inordinate number of seemingly ordinary people who have put their reputations (and even possibly liberty) on the line to spread a mesh of untruths in this case. WHY??????
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Post by polyenne on 25.04.17 11:30

There seems to be an inordinate number of seemingly ordinary people who have put their reputations (and even possibly liberty) on the line to spread a mesh of untruths in this case. WHY??????
Because what is at stake is very big indeed. That is why, IMO, Madeleine will NEVER be found because her body reveals something and it will blow the lid off an issue that is possibly rather unsavoury. Or medical..............
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Post by sallypelt on 25.04.17 11:43

@skyrocket wrote:@sallypelt

Thanks very much for the above.

Hope this sighting isn't the main one TM are relying on to promote the abduction theory!

So ......... Back to the same old question - what persuaded Mari Olli to give seemingly false statements to the police and to continue to back up her claims 10 years later, with the full support of her husband? Is it merely down to ££££££££? Why no follow up from the UK police with Olli when the Moroccan police said it was all a load of twaddle - or more importantly, now? Why are the couple still prepared to have their names/faces connected to this rubbish in national newspapers? 

There seems to be an inordinate number of seemingly ordinary people who have put their reputations (and even possibly liberty) on the line to spread a mesh of untruths in this case. WHY??????

But the question is, is she still speaking to newspapers etc? According to this blog (link below) Mari Olli appears to have  bitten off more than she could chew:
Ray Pollard xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxxx.com

Hello,

I am thankful for your work and efforts to clear the Madeleine case. But can you please remove my picture (Mari Olli) immediately! I have informed the press that I regret, the use of my picture, because the whole case is traumatic enough for me to handle.
My highest wish is that we can get a answer about what happened and a clarify. Please remove the A1 security web and the information about Rays brother Tony Pollard, because this has nothing to do with the case. A1 security has nothing to do with the case and they are not base in Alhurin the Grande. Please confirm when this is done.

Kind Regards
Ray and Mari


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To: Mr. and Mrs. Pollard,

About the “order” you “gave” me, demanding the immediate removal of the picture of Mrs. Mary Olli from my blog, my answer is short and clear: No!
I will correct the reference to A1 Security, because you said that company is not based in Alhurin Grande. You think this information “has nothing to do with the case” of Madeleine McCann disappearance. That’s your opinion. I think this detail is worth mentioning. And I am the Editor of my blog.
Anything else, please pay attention to the fact that none of you is a judge or sit in a Court, so any “orders” or demands made in such a way as you did, are completely worthless for me. If you want to “upgrade” your demands and send it through a Court, please be advised to get a lawyer with a good command of Portuguese and Chinese language.
I am a permanent resident of Macau Special Administrative Region, in China. So, only the local courts have the legal power to give me “orders” similar to the one you emailed me. And Chinese and Portuguese are the official languages of Macau.

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http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic17841.html

My guess is, that the story, now appearing in the rags, is just a patchwork of rehashed garbage.

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Post by skyrocket on 25.04.17 12:09

@sallypelt - I agree, all rehashed. 

It does sound as if Mari Olli has got in to something she regrets. She is clearly going to be unhappy at the moment. The real story for me is the links back to Leicester/Rothley and what was the motivation on Olli's part for the intial sighting. Perhaps one day someone will talk.
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Post by Verdi on 25.04.17 12:26

The North Africa connection was cooked-up by the Spanish private detective agency Metodo3, in cahoots with double glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy and his army of felons.  It was widely reported at the time that Metodo3 was hired by 'the McCanns' (read Brian Kennedy) after their return to the UK in September 2007 but there is compelling evidence that Metodo3 were actively involved long before, indeed days after Madeleine's disappearance.

Thanks to Nigel Moore of mccannfiles.com, this article from the now defunct News of the World has been stored for posterity..

News of the World report, 28 October 2007 (original link)


New McCann detective agency target Morocco in search for missing child

Prisoner of evil

From Dominic Herbert in Praia Da Luz

A CRACK new team of private eyes are now hunting missing Maddie McCann - and they are convinced she was snatched TO ORDER by a paedophile gang then SMUGGLED out to Morocco.

Today we sensationally reveal the renowned Spanish Metodo 3 detective agency - hired by parents Kate and Gerry - believe the four-year-old was targeted after a tip-off from INSIDE their Portuguese holiday complex.

An insider said: "It's distressing but gives us all hope Maddie's still alive."

DISTRAUGHT Kate and Gerry McCann are coming to terms with the sickening thought that missing daughter Maddie is in the hands of a gang of Moroccan paedophiles.

After studying all the evidence the couple's team of ace private eyes are convinced the she was kidnapped to order from the family's Algarve holiday apartment then spirited away to feed North Africa's sick child sex industry.

The highly-respected Spanish detective agency Metodo 3 have NEVER FAILED to find a missing person they've hunted—including a teenage boy they rescued after he was abducted by a pervert.

The Barcelona-based detectives, who began working for the McCanns two months ago, are now compiling a hitlist of Portuguese paedophiles known to target girls Maddie's age.

They will then send their international network of agents to trace the exact movements of their prime suspects before and after May 3, the day Maddie, four, vanished from the McCanns' Algarve holiday apartment.

The News of the World has also discovered the private investigators now believe the kidnapper:

    POUNCED after being TIPPED OFF by an insider at the resort that a young blonde Western girl was there,
    SPIED on the family for days plotting their movements and waiting for the right moment,
    SNATCHED Maddie in a tight eight-minute window of opportunity,
    PASSED her to a paedophile network in Morocco where she has been sold on to other pervert gangs.

A source close to the inquiry told us: "Obviously talk of Madeleine being bartered around these evil people is extremely upsetting for the McCanns. But for the first time a credible theory of what happened is being worked on by one of Europe's leading investigation agencies. And it gives them hope she is still ALIVE.

"This is a significant development based on information from experts with access to a huge amount of data. For nearly six months Kate and Gerry have had to go through the torment of many wild and inaccurate theories, often with no substance.

"They can now focus on the work of Metodo 3 who are using all their significant resources across several countries. It's illegal for them to work in Portugal, and their investigation is separate from the official police inquiry, but has been approved by the local detectives and all information will be passed on to them."
Faith

Metodo 3 launched a special hotline and email appeal for information last week after Kate and Gerry —both still branded suspects by Poruguese cops—gave an emotional interview on Spanish TV.

In three days the agency received 400 calls. As Gerry yesterday took time to relax in a park with two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie near their home in Rothley, Leicester, Metodo 3 managing director Francisco Marco, 35, exclusively told the News of the World: "I'm certain Madeleine was kidnapped. And I'm also sure her parents had nothing to do with her disappearance.

"My own view is the most likely place to find her is Morocco. We're working very hard on all information indicating that. But I stress that we are following up EVERYTHING."

This fresh hope for the McCanns comes as plans to use new laws to access the Portuguese police dossier on them were dashed. They could have to wait 11 months.

Our source said: "Kate and Gerry now have great faith in Metodo and are very impressed with its record. From information already gathered the strongest indication is that this abduction was very carefully planned.

We're looking at whether a Portuguese paedophile was actually lined up by someone connected to the resort. They'd have alerted the snatcher there was a blonde British girl of the right age. Plus they would have detailed the apartment layout, family routine and timings.

"We're sure Madeleine was then taken quickly out of the country and handed to the Moroccan connection.

"This was planned precisely and not a spur-of-the-moment snatch.

Risk

"It's likely Madeleine and her family were watched closely in the days leading up to the snatch to establish their habits and minimise the risk.

"Once in Morocco, Madeleine would be seen as a good ‘commodity' in terms of money and prestige among certain sick communities. There are paedophile gangs and families who crave white Western children. She could have been easily been sold on a number of times."

Metodo investigators are already working extensively on the ground in Morocco to identify the monsters and where they operate.

The agency's theory ties in with witness statements detailing timings of events on May 3 and the daily routine of the McCanns.

A recent computer reconstruction of that night—when the McCanns and friends dined in the nearby tapas bar—indicated a kidnapper would have had just eight minutes to strike. That meant inside knowledge was crucial.

There have also been a string of sightings in Morocco of young girls resembling Maddie. Six days after she vanished, Norweigan-born Mari Pollard, 45, said she was "100 per cent certain" she saw Madeleine at a garage in Marrakesh.

In September it emerged a second sighting had ALREADY been reported by a holidaymaker from Yorkshire in a hotel opposite the garage.

Then Jeannie Thompson, 56, from Devon said she saw a blonde girl looking "dishevelled" as a man took photographs of her at a the Cafe des Epices in Marrakesh on May 11.

Skills

Three more women have since come forward with sightings.

Morocco has a reputation as a haven for paedophiles and Kate and Gerry paid a two-day visit earlier in the hunt to meet the Interior Minister and conduct a series of talks with child protection officers.

The couple have now amassed a huge force of manpower and expertise as they step up the hunt for their daughter. As well as Metodo 3 they are using the skills of British-based Control Risks Group.

Dozens of agents worldwide are now working on the mystery for the McCanns, with more on standby.

In contrast, the Portuguese police have a relatively small team. At one stage it dropped to just six.

One obstacle to Metodo 3's efforts is Portugal's lack of a sex offenders' register. But using its extensive contacts the agency is aboslutely confident of nailing the list.

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The whole thing was an elaborate scam, irrespective of who was 'persuaded' to act as a witness.  I find it thoroughly disgusting to resort to such machinations at the expense of a missing three year old child - the heavy mob behind the orchestrated 'long-term' campaign should be strung-up.  That doesn't excuse false witnesses but it's a bit like trying to eradicate the problem of drug trafficking by prosecuting the addict rather than smashing the trafficking syndicate.

To add insult to injury, the McCanns then have the damn audacity to parade themselves around Morocco, aided and abetted by Mitchell, whilst indirectly accusing the country of harbouring their 'missing' child !!!



How bloody dare they mess with the lives of innocent people.

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