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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.17 13:54

There's no fund me option for the McCanns. Who is going to fund them?

The McCanns have had millions of pounds poured into a limited company and have never produced transparent accounts.

Despite the best efforts of the McCanns, and at times their 'close friends' with running marathons, doing a triathlon and turning up to become ambassadors, it doesn't wash with the general public.

The McCanns are up a gum tree.
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Post by plebgate 03.04.17 13:54

It wouldn't surprise me either if they went abroad. 

Easy to get work as a lecturing Professor in many countries I would imagine especially with the right connections.

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Post by suzyjohnson 03.04.17 14:06

plebgate wrote:It wouldn't surprise me either if they went abroad. 

Easy to get work as a lecturing Professor in many countries I would imagine especially with the right connections.

As qualified doctors they should both easily be able to find jobs abroad.

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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.17 14:15

t wouldn't surprise me either if they went abroad. 
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Easy to get work as a lecturing Professor in many countries I would imagine especially with the right connections.

As qualified doctors they should both easily be able to find jobs abroad.
Qualified doctors of what?

You have one with a newly media spouted professorship and is heralded as saving the NHS millions and another one that hasn't been a GP for many years and hasn't renewed her licence to practice.
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Post by Mirage 03.04.17 14:31

plebgate wrote:It wouldn't surprise me either if they went abroad. 

Easy to get work as a lecturing Professor in many countries I would imagine especially with the right connections.
Abroad would presumably be an option, Plebbers, although he would have to keep up research in order to be ahead of the field. His expertise covers a range of heart pathology such as aortic stenosis and pulmonary hypertension, his diagnostic expertise was clearly enhanced by his advancing the boundaries of magnetic resonance imaging.

His research and research papers continued from around 2004 through to, certainly 2016 when awarded a professorship. Of course, Amsterdam was part of this career path, although, if I have understood this correctly, it ended prematurely to return home for the birth of the twins following IVF in Amsterdam. All of which is a strangely planned juxtaposition when you think about it.

I believe research programmes such as those he has undertaken require sponsorship and big funding - though that should present no problem as there is unparallelled expertise in that direction!

His main problem will probably lie in remaining relevant over time, with the risk of being overtaken in current research if he goes on the lecture only circuit.

The other issue would concern his wife who is  no longer current within the medical world. That would take some thinking about, I would imagine. And then there are the twins.
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Post by Patience 03.04.17 14:38

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No language barrier to overcome and of course Auntie Nora lives there.
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Post by jeanmonroe 03.04.17 15:31

scorpioeyes wrote:Are you seriously asking 'why'??

Yes, I am. (asking why, they are possibly 'being protected')

I would be certainly be most interested in WHY you 'think' they are being 'protected'.
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Post by coati mundi 03.04.17 15:57

I forgot to say in my original post that the anniversary and any attempt to exploit have their own potential problems.

The McCanns would, in my opinion, obviously want to cash in bigtime - in fact they might desperately need to. The problem might be that if they are seen to shamelessly milk it, it could be very counter-productive. What would they say they needed the money for? To pay Goncalo Amaral's costs. Well, they brought that on themselves. To help fund "Find Madaleine? That might provoke questions as how funds have been spent to that end so far.

I'm sure that any interview that might be a big fundraiser would be tightly controlled, so it's almost certain that no light might be shed there. There is always the possibility, from past form, that they might indulge in a bit more "backfitting" that might make their version even more contradictory than it already is. 

Re: the "no evidence she has been harmed" mantra, I would hope that an interviewer would make my point that being missing without trace for 10 years IS EVIDENCE that someone has come to harm, if not proof, though I feel that is a vain hope.

All in my opinion, of course, and still hoping for justice.

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Post by Guest 03.04.17 16:01

jeanmonroe wrote:
I know what you mean by an 'official source' BUT we do have 'this'

(earlier post by me)

What's going to be the MET/OG 'plan' now for the 'biggie' 10th anniversary, 'broadcast' they were/are 'planning'?

(Because Madeleine will NOT be 'found/appearing' BEFORE then.........will she, Nic?)

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'UTTER RUBBISH' Kate and Gerry McCann slam claims they are plotting to make hundreds of thousands out of 10th anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance
The couple say they 'want to make it clear they are not making any money out of Madeleine's disappearance'
The couple are considering two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters.
Both are being organised through Scotland Yard, the couple’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell explained.
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"BOTH are being organised through Scotland Yard"

So what, exactly, ARE SY 'organising', for the 10th anniversary of Madeleine's 'disappearance'?

Lots of 'organising' for 10th 'anniversary' by MET/SY for 'future'

NOT much 'cracking the case', BEFORE 'then', by MET/SY, it 'seems'!

'Nic's' '15 minutes' of 'fame'?
Ah, as I suspected - Kandohla to the rescue.

Strip the article of all it's finery and what's left to ponder..

He told The Sun Online: “They want to make it clear that they are not making any money out of Madeleine’s disappearance. Any claims are spurious nonsense but fits in with the Portuguese agenda.”

Mitchell said: “Kate and Gerry have not decided on any media interviews surrounding the anniversary yet but if any deal is done it will be extremely limited and no payment will be involved.

The couple are considering two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters.

Both are being organised through Scotland Yard, Mitchell explained. He said: “There will be no fee.”
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To be or not to be - that is the question.

Mitchell's words are contradictory.  "The couple are considering two pooled interviews"......  "Both are being organised through Scotland Yard".

So what's the score here?  The McCanns are considering at the same time as Scotland Yard are organising - what happens if the McCanns decline to accept?

Lest we forget - 'Clarence Mitchell lies with as many teeth as he has in his mouth'.  I think someone in the past has prepared a comprehensive list of Mitchell bloopers, he certainly made some corkers!

ETA:  Unless of course it turns out to be a Crimewatch type Madeleine McCann Special Update.

Perhaps Richard D Hall should have waited until after the 10th anniversary to release his latest video winkwink .
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Post by jeanmonroe 03.04.17 16:19

The couple are considering two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters.

Both are being organised through Scotland Yard, Mitchell explained. He said: “There will be no fee.”
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Could somebody 'explain' to me, in plain English, WHY are SY 'organising' ANYTHING for 4 'weeks' HENCE?

And WHY have SY been 'organising', SINCE February 16th 2017, UK wide National 'press and broadcast releases' for 3rd May 2017.

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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.17 16:22

Underneath all of this is a little three year old who is more than likely dead.

Clarence Mitchell claims the perfect campaign and went to Australia to educate people on PR perfection.

Then there was the claim in Australia that the tenth anniversary of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was open to bidding.

Do they really care about a three year old?

The perfect campaign makes me ill to think that these people have achieved nothing other than to gain pay cheques.

Forgive me for feeling so sad that the life of a three year old little girl has been trashed. I can't imagine being dependent upon these 'experts' who have done nothing for my daughter.

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Post by Guest 03.04.17 16:24

I don't get why SY are organising media interviews.

I just don't get it.

Unless there is some kind of collusion going on.

Or Maybe SY actually want to interview Kate and then interview Gerry? 

That's two interviews.

SY could legitimately organise that.
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Post by coati mundi 03.04.17 16:38

I don't believe for a moment that SY are organising any interviews with the McCanns, unless they want to make themselves look even worse incompetents than they already are. I think it was Clarrie spin to fob off an at the time embarrassing line of enquiry.

What are they going to say? "Well Kate and Gerry, what do you think about the fact that we have spent £15 million and we are not even a millimetre closer to finding out what happened to your daughter? But we do have a suspect that the Portuguese police have already interviewed and cleared, as he was far away from the Ocean Club when Madeleine was "taken". What do you reckon?"


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Post by Liz Eagles 03.04.17 16:51

coati mundi wrote:I don't believe for a moment that SY are organising any interviews with the McCanns, unless they want to make themselves look even worse incompetents than they already are. I think it was Clarrie spin to fob off an at the time embarrassing line of enquiry.

What are they going to say? "Well Kate and Gerry, what do you think about the fact that we have spent £15 million and we are not even a millimetre closer to finding out what happened to your daughter? But we do have a suspect that the Portuguese police have already interviewed and cleared, as he was far away from the Ocean Club when Madeleine was "taken". What do you reckon?"


All in my opinion, of course.
Scotland Yard gave a personal audience to Summers and Swan who penned a book that promoted the abduction/the McCanns are innocent theory.
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Post by coati mundi 03.04.17 20:09

How did that conversation go? Something like...

S&S- Can you tell us what Operation Grange has done so far?

SY - Well, we've spent millions of pounds, we've dug a few holes in Portugal and found a sock, Oh, we've also pursued some leads on people who have either died, or had already been interviewed by the Portuguese police and cleared. Er, that's it.
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Post by whatsupdoc 03.04.17 20:24

I just did a search for Britain's got talent after watching a video mentioning it.

It looks like we will have a tear-jerking talent show for May...

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I just feel sorry for all the other people taking part. I certainly wouldn't be a part of it.


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Please be aware that Kate McCann is NOT INVOLVED, nor ever likely to be, with The Missing People Choir. The choir is trying hard to promote awareness of the charity Missing People and the support it gives to families who have loved-ones missing. I repeat, Kate McCann is NOT involved with the choir. PLEASE do not allow this false association influence you if you vote for an act in the competition.

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The SUN 'suggested' her involvement to raise its story's profile. Sun's story gets copied everywhere! If you go back to the online reports now, you should find that some have altered their text, for example 'ambassador for the choir' has now been changed to 'ambassador for the charity', and 'is' changed to 'may be' etc. She has NO involvement with the choir.... I know because I am a member of the choir!


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Kate and family may or may not be part of the choir but I think she could well be given a spot to speak on the show. She is associated with the event as she is an ambassador for Missing People.

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Post by Hobs 03.04.17 22:25

I wonder if there will be 'expenses' or maybe a 'donation' as opposed to a fee to the couple?

Why would they be organized through Scotland Yard when it is the choice of the mccanns to make said interviews?

Is this trying the mccann looking officially innocent/cleared of involvement  according to Scotland Yard when legally the |Portuguese Supreme Court made it clear the mccanns had not been cleared of involvement.

Remember with the mccanns it is all about image and reputation.
Smoke and mirrors.

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Post by petunia 03.04.17 22:55

Hobs wrote:I wonder if there will be 'expenses' or maybe a 'donation' as opposed to a fee to the couple?

Why would they be organized through Scotland Yard when it is the choice of the mccanns to make said interviews?

Is this trying the mccann looking officially innocent/cleared of involvement  according to Scotland Yard when legally the |Portuguese Supreme Court made it clear the mccanns had not been cleared of involvement.

Remember with the mccanns it is all about image and reputation.
Smoke and mirrors.
Nail on the head Hobs.
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Post by petunia 03.04.17 23:44

whatsupdoc wrote:I just did a search for Britain's got talent after watching a video mentioning it.

It looks like we will have a tear-jerking talent show for May...

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I just feel sorry for all the other people taking part. I certainly wouldn't be a part of it.


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The SUN 'suggested' her involvement to raise its story's profile. Sun's story gets copied everywhere! If you go back to the online reports now, you should find that some have altered their text, for example 'ambassador for the choir' has now been changed to 'ambassador for the charity', and 'is' changed to 'may be' etc. She has NO involvement with the choir.... I know because I am a member of the choir!


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Kate and family may or may not be part of the choir but I think she could well be given a spot to speak on the show. She is associated with the event as she is an ambassador for Missing People.
so a member of the choir is not happy with Kates(not Kate and Gerrys) involement? no doubt they will be called a fu*ing tosser and I see PAM has got her tuppance one in by saying  my lovely Kate may not be part of the choir but she could be given a spot to speak.how about giving Kerry a spot to speak.
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Post by whatsupdoc 04.04.17 10:57

Agreed. What about everyone of the choir being given time to tell their stories. It's all very one-sided in our face all the time.

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Mrs McCann shared the stage at the Corinthia Hotel with Ros Hodgkiss, whose 14-year-old daughter Alice was found dead in September 2014 after she went missing for five weeks.
Together, the mothers - united it grief over the loss of their daughters - highlighted the plight of 140,000 youngsters who go missing in Britain each year.
Mrs McCann then made an impromptu speech in which she urged the public to give their support.
'When my little girl first disappeared, on that horrendous night that changed our lives forever, I could never have imagined that nearly 10 years later we would still be in the same position.

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I think it's disgraceful how the McCanns hang on to all the other parents who's children have gone missing.

Gerry tried to plan a big event in 2007 for 2008 but it didn't materialise. He also said the long term plan looked good (or words to that effect) so the McCanns did expect the scenario to drag on for a very long time. We can add this to the list of lies.

How much time and money is spent on each of all the other missing persons?

Why has so much time and money been spent on the McCanns when there has been no proof of an abduction?

Has Missing Persons found anyone?

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Post by Captain_Pugwash 04.04.17 11:17

The only thing realistically they can do is cut their losses and run. They can bow out in a dignified manner saying "we are doing this for the twins to spare them exposure", (like they really fckuing care). They have made their money, they have spent a fortune on legal fees, they will always be able to say that GAs book is fiction and KM will resign as whatever position she holds on behalf of missing children. The British public are by and large absolutley stupid, they will believe anything reported in the broadsheets or by the BBC as cast iron truth whereas we on this forum categorically KNOW that this is a false hope. When  you have a head of government acting in support of what the more outspoken would consider vile actions of neglectful parents then most people will close the door and look the other way. Some years down the line we may see an aspiring young journalist who will ferret out the truth and have an editor publish it. By that stage the smaller children involved in this debacle will have grown up and flown the nest. The McCanns are off the hook and they know it.
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Post by mootle 04.04.17 12:02

One thing that has always bugged me about this 'Missing Persons' lot is the claim that 140,000 children under 18 go missing each year. Though technically true I find it rather disingenuous as 91% of these ‘missing’ children are found within 48 hours – many far sooner. 99% of cases are solved within a year.

So a more accurate figure would be 12,600 children under 18 go missing each year and 1,400 are still unaccounted for after a year.

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Regards the BGT show,. if kate does pop up, id really like to see the BGT website​, and Twitter​ comments.
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Post by Cmaryholmes 04.04.17 16:18

Captain_Pugwash wrote:The only thing realistically they can do is cut their losses and run. They can bow out in a dignified manner saying "we are doing this for the twins to spare them exposure", (like they really fckuing care). They have made their money, they have spent a fortune on legal fees, they will always be able to say that GAs book is fiction and KM will resign as whatever position she holds on behalf of missing children. The British public are by and large absolutley stupid, they will believe anything reported in the broadsheets or by the BBC as cast iron truth whereas we on this forum categorically KNOW that this is a false hope. When  you have a head of government acting in support of what the more outspoken would consider vile actions of neglectful parents then most people will close the door and look the other way. Some years down the line we may see an aspiring young journalist who will ferret out the truth and have an editor publish it. By that stage the smaller children involved in this debacle will have grown up and flown the nest. The McCanns are off the hook and they know it.
Not sure about being off the hook.....they are still doing a lot of wriggling !
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Post by MTSTAR 04.04.17 20:27

Captain_Pugwash wrote:SThe only thing realistically they can do is cut their losses and run. They can bow out in a dignified manner saying "we are doing this for the twins to spare them exposure", (like they really fckuing care). They have made their money, they have spent a fortune on legal fees, they will always be able to say that GAs book is fiction and KM will resign as whatever position she holds on behalf of missing children. The British public are by and large absolutley stupid, they will believe anything reported in the broadsheets or by the BBC as cast iron truth whereas we on this forum categorically KNOW that this is a false hope. When  you have a head of government acting in support of what the more outspoken would consider vile actions of neglectful parents then most people will close the door and look the other way. Some years down the line we may see an aspiring young journalist who will ferret out the truth and have an editor publish it. By that stage the smaller children involved in this debacle will have grown up and flown the nest. The McCanns are off the hook and they know it.
 I just feel incredibly frustrated to think that they have got away with this.  How could this have happened?  It's so unfair.  That poor little girl is buried out there somewhere, her parents who are supposed to be devout Catholics didn't even care or have enough respect for her to give her a funeral.  Madeleine has not been afforded any dignity whatsoever.  I would really like the McCanns  to read this post and cringe.  They have not shown one iota of compassion for that girl.  I hope they never have a moment's peace, I hope the saying 'what goes around comes around' will apply to them at some point.  Evil, evil people.
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Post by JohnyT 04.04.17 20:41

........I don't think they were devout catholics......were they?
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Post by JulieC 04.04.17 20:51

JohnyT wrote:........I don't think they were devout catholics......were they?

They try to make out they are. Church visits and meeting the Pope.
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Post by suzyjohnson 04.04.17 20:53

I wouldn't say they have gotten away with anything, the stress they are putting themselves through must be much worse than facing up to whatever they did wrong at the time. Any prison sentence would have been almost over by now, and they would not be in the situation where they are instantly recognised in many countries around the world. 

In fact, if they are responsible, for their daughter's disappearance, then they have compounded the issue over and over again since then. They are in a no win situation whichever way you look at it.

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Post by MTSTAR 04.04.17 20:53

JohnyT wrote:........I don't think they were devout catholics......were they?
Sorry, I got carried away there.  I meant to say that they said themselves that they were devout catholics in the immediate aftermath.   That has  since been disproved.  Kate's mother confirmed that they were infrequent church goers.
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