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Paedophiles shouldn't face criminal charges for looking at child porn

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Paedophiles shouldn't face criminal charges for looking at child porn

Post by aquila on 28.02.17 6:43

'Paedophiles shouldn't face criminal charges for looking at child porn': Britain's top child protection cop sparks fury after saying they should only be prosecuted if they're a physical threat to children

  • Increase in sexual abuse reports means police have reached saturation point
  • Lower offending should be de-criminalised says chief constable Simon Bailey
  • Critics have argued shocking proposals will encourage padeophiles to offend

By George Odling For The Daily Mail
Published: 00:42, 28 February 2017 | Updated: 02:14, 28 February 2017
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Post by BlueBag on 28.02.17 7:46

All part of the normalisation process.
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Post by MayMuse on 28.02.17 7:51

It is never normal! 
It has to be stopped, and more punished! 

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Post by melisande on 28.02.17 8:38

That is unbelievable. It's a cycle. If you are watching child porn , you are part of the child porn industry. You are complicit in the abuse of children and keeping the industry going.  This guy is not suitable for this post and should be removed immediately imo.

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Post by Cmaryholmes on 28.02.17 8:47

Actions follow thoughts. Our thoughts are influenced by what we see and hear. A person who wants to fill their mind with filth and depravity is a danger.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 28.02.17 8:56

Simon Bailey, who has been the police chiefs' lead on child sexual abuse issues for a number of years, has 'form' for making comments like these. In an article three years ago, in the Guardian (where else?), he sounded off like this:

"Thousands who view child abuse images online should be treated as patients by the NHS rather than sent to prison because they pose no threat to children", says one of Britain’s leading police officers.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/05/top-police-officer-many-viewing-child-abuse-images-treated-nhs


Child sexual abuse images are graded by law enforcement agencies in the UK from 'Level 1' (least serious) to 'Level 5' (the very worst images). 

Very few would argue that anyone who has viewed modest quantities of Level 1 images should automatically be locked up. But there must always be an element of punishment. 

However, I would prefer the police to be ranting and raving about the internet companies that knowingly circulate and facilitate these depraved images of cruelty to children - and tackling the pusillanimous efforts of our government to curb them.

Why should it not be a criminal offence for any internet company to facilitate the circulation of child sexual abuse images?


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Post by Verdi on 28.02.17 12:23

@Tony Bennett wrote:Simon Bailey, who has been the police chiefs' lead on child sexual abuse issues for a number of years, has 'form' for making comments like these. In an article three years ago, in the Guardian (where else?), he sounded off like this:

"Thousands who view child abuse images online should be treated as patients by the NHS rather than sent to prison because they pose no threat to children", says one of Britain’s leading police officers.
You think you've seen it all then along comes another unbelievable pearl of wisdom!

Of course they are a threat to children, they are viewing children being abused - they are feeding the ruddy industry.  If these depraved perverts didn't pay to view child pornography the industry would die a natural.

The NHS treat them as patients?  Is that the same NHS that once talked of rejecting patients with self-inflicted conditions like obesity;  alcoholism;  drug addiction etc?  The same NHS who have stopped providing essentials to improve the quality of life for so many patients?

Nah - let's just nurture the nations perverts, poor little underprivileged victims of their own making - bah!

I despair!

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Post by MayMuse on 28.02.17 12:46

No threat to children ? 


Some may remember PRof Alfred Kinsey who advised the government on "antiquated" sex laws. 
 A " sex scientist" ?
Who also explored child sexuality....grossly! 
The world has not moved forwards it's full of cr*p excuses to try and legalise paedophillia under the guise of accepting different sexual preferences! 

Warning sensitive & upsetting content,which may bring on intense feelings of angry2


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Post by mouse on 28.02.17 18:17

Haven't posted in a while - but today this so called Top Cop Child Protection Expert has really got me wound up to the extreme.

I used to post a bit on this subject way back and had a few rounds with a certain poster (who doesn't post anymore - went to pastures new thank goodness - and who had a very similar take on the subject as this cop, and another old cop we all know associated with the Madeleine case - older posters will remember). Anyway, she was of the opinion that viewing 'child porn' as she liked to call it wasn't a serious crime . I had to point out that there is no such thing as child porn - it is in fact Child Abuse. These people who choose to pay and watch child abuse images are viewing criminal activity carried out on a child and if again, they choose to pay to receive these images to get their disgusting kicks - then they are facilitating/enabling the criminals in their crime and creating the demand to make more images, basically abuse more children.

I think the question has to be put to this cop - are kids (mostly in far flung poor countries) not worth protecting? Has this cop got chlidren? For he doesn't appear to care? Just what is his background??? Because I don't think child protection ranks very highly with him, rather it appears he's more concerned with the protection of those who sit at home watching these criminal images. This is a massive slap in the face for all of us who really want to protect children - particularly when we have the child abuse enquiry opening only yesterday. The government says its listening to children - well it appears it has given up on them as all this statement will do - is send a red light to all those who wish to view this material and even encourage the makers of these images to abuse more children to make more money. It really makes you wonder who is behind some of the big distributors of this kind of material - lots of money is obviously being made by someone.

I have to say I don't necessarily think we can link these people viewing material to specifically carrying out offences - maybe in some cases, but it is a very odd interest to view this kind of thing. Like I don't think they'd mention it to family or friends - so they know it is wrong and therefore should at least be made to acknowledge that they are part of the criminal chain. Once caught - they need to pay for their sick and depraved crime and the offence should be taken extremely seriously.

To conclude I believe Mrs May or the Minister for Children should make a statement that it is still a serious offence to view child abuse on the internet and that this 'Top Cop' should be removed from post asap .However, judging how long it took to open the child abuse enquiry - I'm not holding my breath for our PM to do the right thing. Today my heart goes out to those children in those pictures who will forever suffer from their abuse all the while knowing that their pics are out there forever on the internet for these saddos just to get their kicks. It is truly time now that we listened to their voices rather than more men in uniforms or suits trying to trivialise/brush this all under the carpet - making out that this isn't such a serious crime. Try telling that to the children!!!

Sorry Rant over .....and breath!!!


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Post by mootle on 28.02.17 18:34

Well said mouse!
I hope you can enjoy a relaxed evening now that's off your chest

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Post by mouse on 28.02.17 18:40

Thanks Mootle - yes I am going to try.

It's just this subject really touches a nerve. I just want to tear my hair out when I hear the uncaring attitude of those who are there supposedly to protect the vulnerable.


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Post by aquila on 01.03.17 14:01

@MayMuse wrote:No threat to children ? 


Some may remember PRof Alfred Kinsey who advised the government on "antiquated" sex laws. 
 A " sex scientist" ?
Who also explored child sexuality....grossly! 
The world has not moved forwards it's full of cr*p excuses to try and legalise paedophillia under the guise of accepting different sexual preferences! 

Warning sensitive & upsetting content,which may bring on intense feelings of angry2

It's taken me three goes at watching this video. I had to keep turning it off. I was physically sick last night.

It just goes to show that just about any evil can be intellectualized.
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