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Kate and Gerry McCann accuse judges of ‘nonsensical contradictions’ after court ruling they’re not in the clear over daughter Maddie’s disappearance

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Re: Kate and Gerry McCann accuse judges of ‘nonsensical contradictions’ after court ruling they’re not in the clear over daughter Maddie’s disappearance

Post by Paddington2007 on 21.02.17 17:11

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

I don't think the Telegraph is particularly sympathetic towards Mr and Mrs McCann, a picture speaks a thousand words! Also the phrasing of the title!
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Post by MayMuse on 21.02.17 17:12

@Paddington2007 wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/21/madeleine-mccanns-parents-attack-portuguese-judges-acting-frivolously/

I don't think the Telegraph is particularly sympathetic towards Mr and Mrs McCann,  a picture speaks a thousand words! Also the phrasing of the title!
Oooohhh er.....apparently the SC "argument" , "lacked foundation"?

 

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Madeleine McCann's parents have accused the judges who ruled against them in their court fight with an ex-police chief of acting "frivolously" and claimed their argument "lacked foundation".
Kate and Gerry McCann made it clear through lawyers that they strongly disagreed with the judges' "erroneous" premise that the lifting of their status as "arguidos" - or formal suspects - did not mean they were innocent of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance in May 2007.

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Post by JRP on 21.02.17 17:13

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@JRP wrote:I'm not too well up on the law in this country never mind Portugal, but I'm pretty sure a client can't sue his/her solicitor/barrister/legal person in this country for losing a case.
I once threatened a solicitor with writing a letter complaint to the law society, and he gave me a refund of what I'd paid him, and hadn't done, but I think that was more of a good will gesture on his behalf than anything else.
You complain to the Law Society for any misgivings about a solicitor in the UK, I think. 
Then it is in the hands of the Law Society to investigate. 

Open to being corrected.

I didn't complain to the law society, I threatened to, and I received an apology and a refund within days.

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Post by MayMuse on 21.02.17 17:15

@JRP wrote:
@MayMuse wrote:
@JRP wrote:I'm not too well up on the law in this country never mind Portugal, but I'm pretty sure a client can't sue his/her solicitor/barrister/legal person in this country for losing a case.
I once threatened a solicitor with writing a letter complaint to the law society, and he gave me a refund of what I'd paid him, and hadn't done, but I think that was more of a good will gesture on his behalf than anything else.
You complain to the Law Society for any misgivings about a solicitor in the UK, I think. 
Then it is in the hands of the Law Society to investigate. 

Open to being corrected.

I didn't complain to the law society, I threatened to, and I received an apology and a refund within days.
Not "you" in particular,  it is the action that a person makes if not happy with their solicitor... 
YOUR solicitor probably reimbursed you as he would not want to be reported to the Law Society, it is a big deal.

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Post by JRP on 21.02.17 17:21

@MayMuse wrote:
@JRP wrote:
@MayMuse wrote:
@JRP wrote:I'm not too well up on the law in this country never mind Portugal, but I'm pretty sure a client can't sue his/her solicitor/barrister/legal person in this country for losing a case.
I once threatened a solicitor with writing a letter complaint to the law society, and he gave me a refund of what I'd paid him, and hadn't done, but I think that was more of a good will gesture on his behalf than anything else.
You complain to the Law Society for any misgivings about a solicitor in the UK, I think. 
Then it is in the hands of the Law Society to investigate. 

Open to being corrected.

I didn't complain to the law society, I threatened to, and I received an apology and a refund within days.
Not "you" in particular,  it is the action that a person makes if not happy with their solicitor... 
YOUR solicitor probably reimbursed you as he would not want to be reported to the Law Society, it is a big deal.

Yes it is, and I think it's the only reproach a client has with a lawyer. I guess (but don't know for sure) Portugal would have a similar method. So, the Mc's suing Duart isn't likely.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 21.02.17 19:45

It's surprising IMO that Isabel Duarte did not advise the McCanns against proceeding with the libel case against Amaral on the grounds that the McCanns had been declared innocent by the original investigators when, quite obviously, they were not cleared. 

As a Portuguese lawyer, you might expect her to know the difference between having an arguido status lifted and being declared innocent.

Or maybe, she did advise them but the McCanns were not listening?

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Post by Guest on 21.02.17 19:52

@suzyjohnson wrote:It's surprising IMO that Isabel Duarte did not advise the McCanns against proceeding with the libel case against Amaral on the grounds that the McCanns had been declared innocent by the original investigators when, quite obviously, they were not cleared. 

As a Portuguese lawyer, you might expect her to know the difference between having an arguido status lifted and being declared innocent.

Or maybe, she did advise them but the McCanns were not listening?
Didn't she say 'They have filed a complaint rather than I have filed a complaint on behalf of my clients or something along those lines,  which supports what you have just said? I agree I doubt she would advise them to proceed. Very grubby indeed.
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