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World War II - What really happened.

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World War II - What really happened.

Post by BlueBag on 10.12.16 12:33

Another chink in the armor of the official story.

Channel 4 tonight.

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/c4-documentary-to-reveal-the-shocking-truth-about-pearl-harbour

A program about the Pearl Harbor attack.

The American Government knew more than they have said.

But anyone who has studied WWII properly has been saying this for years and got called "conspiracy theorists".

The fact is the American People didn't want any part of the war raging in Europe and elsewhere. The American goverment DID want to be in the war. The American government goaded Japan into attacking them thus giving the American people a mindset changing event.

Much like 9/11.

On the evening of 9/11 George Bush addressed the nation and called it a "new Pearl Harbor".

They must have though that was funny behind the scenes.

The real history of World War II and 9/11 is yet to be told.

Many of our world leaders have been monsters - and not just the obvious ones.
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Post by Richard IV on 10.12.16 12:44

 "Working with Pulitzer-nominated authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, the documentary has exclusive access to the story told in their forthcoming book, A Matter of Honor – a journalistic investigation of Pearl Harbour based on startling new evidence from thousands of newly unearthed documents, letters and photos."
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Post by BlueBag on 10.12.16 19:36

@Richard IV wrote: "Working with Pulitzer-nominated authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan, the documentary has exclusive access to the story told in their forthcoming book, A Matter of Honor – a journalistic investigation of Pearl Harbour based on startling new evidence from thousands of newly unearthed documents, letters and photos."
Yes.. the gatekeepers are in to limit the damage and point at something else.

Just like everywhere else they got involved in.
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World WarII

Post by willowthewisp on 10.12.16 20:59

Winston Churchill knew more about "Pearl Harbour"and how the American people were(Rbekah Brooks)persuaded into action against Adolf Hitler the German Army?
It must cringe in the History of World WarII,that Winston's Monument is placed in a square opposite Ghandi,was this deliberate,as Winston Churchill was not best pleased with Mr Ghandi for opposing British Imperil rule on his people,where thousands of Indians were brutally massacred by the British Army for challenging the Empire and its system of Government of the Indian people!?

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Post by BlueBag on 10.12.16 22:10

You KNOW someone has ruffled feathers when Summers and Swann are sent in.

This EXCELLENT book has been out for years.

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Post by April28th on 11.12.16 0:14

Many sins take many decades to decay.

Whether it's Pearl harbour, JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, Agent Orange, Cambodia, Rabin, Gulf War Syndrome, 7/7, Gaddaffi etc. That's just off the top of my head..conspiracy sells books until enough culprits have died to 'uncover' the truth
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Post by Mirage on 11.12.16 15:10

Just a closed statement at the end of the programme from Swann saying there is "no evidence"  that FDR knew. "He should have done, but he didn't". 
Reminds  me of Martin Hewitt pronouncing the result of the Met Review of the investigation into the Spy in the Bag case "There is no evidence  of a third party in that flat."
No. Quite right. But what he failed to add was neither was there evidence of anyone else's presence in that flat

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Post by BlueBag on 11.12.16 16:01

@Mirage wrote:Just a closed statement at the end of the programme from Swann saying there is "no evidence"  that FDR knew. "He should have done, but he didn't". 
Typical for them.

Summers and Swann are establishment gatekeepers first and last.

Everything they write is to misdirect.

There is NO WAY that FDR did not know the plan to goad Japan into attacking the USA.

FDR was desperate to get into the war. He saw the way it would make way for the New American Empire to replace the British Empire.

FDR and Churchill.... history will not be kind to these people when the truth finally emerges.
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Post by icanseeyou on 19.12.16 19:21

You can bet that( as per) the Global Elite ( bankers who make their own kind of 'killing' from funding at interest all sides) were orchestrating it all. 1933 was a watershed for the game to change- a new president for america as they declared bankruptcy and 'called in' everybody's gold items with the deadline of May 1st( we know what that date means don't we?), a new chancellor for Germany as it became a dictatorship but still retained tonnes of gold. Six years sounds like a long time but it isn't. The war was inevitable. Churchill and Hitler were both bankrolled by the same hand.The 'fed' was in big trouble.The Americans were still shaking themselves down from the great depression and facing uncertainty and needed to feel big and strong again.It was inevitable but the people had been promised non-involvement. A plan was needed that would make it seem like the promise wasn't being broken, but rather they had no choice if the people didn't want to face attacks to the mainland like britain and germany had been( yes, that's an actual 'war' ).

http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4741-pearl-harbour-motives-behind-the-betrayal

It was nothing new. But only now are we seeing how far back it all goes and how deep.And how high up the perpetrators of lies actually sit.

It tells us more, though, about how the media and the dream factory that produce movies are nothing but propaganda tools perfect for shaping the minds of the audience. They never let the truth get in the way of a good story , to quote whoever said it.

History continues( and will continue to continue to) repeat itself :

   The British government admits that – between 1946 and 1948 – it bombed 5 ships carrying Jews attempting to flee the Holocaust to seek safety in Palestine, set up a fake group called “Defenders of Arab Palestine”, and then had the psuedo-group falsely claim responsibility for the bombings


Israel admits that in 1954, an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind “evidence” implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers, and several of the Israelis later confessed)



The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.



The British Prime Minister admitted to his defense secretary that he and American president Dwight Eisenhower approved a plan in 1957 to carry out attacks in Syria and blame it on the Syrian government as a way to effect regime change.



In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and overthrow Castro



A Mossad agent admits that, in 1984, Mossad planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions recorded by Mossad, in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.



That's only a handful of many. And what did all that teach those who planned and carried out the atrocities? For one thing, nobody ( from the massed sleepers out here) questions it.Therefore it would naturally follow that the gullibility would remain in place and be kept in place by a deeper fear and uncertainty. That's why Philip Zelikow
was chosen to get involved in the 9 /11 official report ( an oxymoron nowadays) . This is the man who boasts of his love of the pearl harbour 'event' because of what came of it ; and his ability to create a 'truth' from lies with 'creative editing'.

[ note the date ]




October 15, 1998: Future 9/11 Commission Executive Director Zelikow Says ‘Public Assumptions’ Shape Views of History 
In his opening remarks at a conference on contemporary political history organized by the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, future 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow emphasizes that the public understanding of history is shaped by what are sometimes referred to as “public myths.” “[U]nderstanding contemporary political history is extremely important and constantly alive in public discourse. ‘Contemporary’ is defined functionally by those critical people and events that go into forming the public’s presumptions about its immediate past. This idea of ‘public presumption’ is akin to William McNeill’s notion of ‘public myth’ but without the negative implication sometimes invoked by the word ‘myth.’ Such presumptions are beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community. The sources for such presumptions are both personal (from direct experience) and vicarious (from books, movies, and myths).” Zelikow says that public assumptions often grow out of “searing events”: “particularly ‘searing’ or ‘molding’ events take on ‘transcendent’ importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene.” [ZELIKOW, 1999 pdf file] In a previous publication, Zelikow had written about how a “catastrophic terrorism” event could constitute a momentous, history-shaping milestone: “An act of catastrophic terrorism that killed thousands or tens of thousands of people… would be a watershed event in America’s history.… Like Pearl Harbor, such an event would divide our past and future into a ‘before’ and ‘after’” (see November 1997-August 1998).
( Philip Zelikow)


Not all wars are military any more - remember this.
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