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The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

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The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by Get'emGonçalo on 01.11.16 18:31

Every flippin' year we have horror stories about fireworks and this year is no exception with West Midlands Police coming under an horrendous firework attack http://news.sky.com/story/halloween-fireworks-attacks-on-police-in-tottenham-and-birmingham-filmed-10640536


It makes me sick that the government do nothing about the sale of fireworks to members of the public. I am of the opinion that they should only be sold for public displays which should then be over and done with by 11pm (unless it's New Year's Eve) and never sold to anyone for personal use.

One of my pupils told me a few years ago that kids tied a firework to her dogs collar and the dog lost most of his face and, to this day, suffers from the doggy equivalent of PTSD.

Another one of my pupils said he knew someone who put a firework in his mouth, whilst high on drugs, lit it and blew most of his face off. wtf

It's all very well saying that fireworks should only be sold to people of 18 or over but how do they know that an 18 year old won't then pass them on to someone much younger just as they do with booze?

I'm sick to death of hearing bangers still being let off in the street at 2/3 am.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fireworks being aimed at people.

I'm sick to death of hearing about children being horrendously burned,  maimed for life, by irresponsible people who chuck fireworks around for fun.

I'm sick to death of hearing the sound of fire engines going to put out fires caused by reckless people who do things like putting fireworks through peoples' letterboxes etc.

You wouldn't hand a loaded gun to a kid, so why hand them some fireworks which can do just as much damage?

I hate this time of year.

But then I also hate the now-overly-commercialised Christmas. Bah humbug, the 'C' word is also coming up soon too! big grin
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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by Roxyroo on 01.11.16 21:35

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:Every flippin' year we have horror stories about fireworks and this year is no exception with West Midlands Police coming under an horrendous firework attack http://news.sky.com/story/halloween-fireworks-attacks-on-police-in-tottenham-and-birmingham-filmed-10640536


It makes me sick that the government do nothing about the sale of fireworks to members of the public. I am of the opinion that they should only be sold for public displays which should then be over and done with by 11pm (unless it's New Year's Eve) and never sold to anyone for personal use.

One of my pupils told me a few years ago that kids tied a firework to her dogs collar and the dog lost most of his face and, to this day, suffers from the doggy equivalent of PTSD.

Another one of my pupils said he knew someone who put a firework in his mouth, whilst high on drugs, lit it and blew most of his face off. wtf

It's all very well saying that fireworks should only be sold to people of 18 or over but how do they know that an 18 year old won't then pass them on to someone much younger just as they do with booze?

I'm sick to death of hearing bangers still being let off in the street at 2/3 am.

I'm sick to death of hearing about fireworks being aimed at people.

I'm sick to death of hearing about children being horrendously burned,  maimed for life, by irresponsible people who chuck fireworks around for fun.

I'm sick to death of hearing the sound of fire engines going to put out fires caused by reckless people who do things like putting fireworks through peoples' letterboxes etc.

You wouldn't hand a loaded gun to a kid, so why hand them some fireworks which can do just as much damage?

I hate this time of year.

But then I also hate the now-overly-commercialised Christmas. Bah humbug, the 'C' word is also coming up soon too! big grin


I hate Christmas now too, it should only be once every leap year

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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by Verdi on 01.11.16 23:04

@Get'emGonçalo wrote:
I hate this time of year.

But then I also hate the now-overly-commercialised Christmas. Bah humbug, the 'C' word is also coming up soon too! big grin
Hello-ween is a load of over-commercialized nonsense - wots it got to do with getting legless and further burdening the NHS with an influx of drunken fools with alcohol poisoning mangled bodies and liver failure.

November the 5th is a load of over-commercialized nonsense - wots it got to do with the Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot?  Fireworks are dangerous in any hands, not only under eighteens.

Christmas is a load of over-commercialized nonsense - wots it got to do with the birth of Jesus Christ?  Over indulging, wasting money on presents that aren't even appreciated, spending time with people you'd rather put on ignore.

Then there is the weather..

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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by lj on 01.11.16 23:25

Sadly commerce has ruined about every holiday I can think off. Prosperity boiling over alright.  
Years ago, during a period money was very tight, we celebrated Christmas with gifts that did not cost anything or max $ 5. I got lectured by a mother of one of my daughter's classmates that I was "damaging" the girls.
I decided then en there that this would be our Christmas, even if we ever would have plenty of money. Nowadays we spend our "Christmas" money on doing things for people and/or animals in need.

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Post by April28th on 01.11.16 23:28

@Verdi wrote:
November the 5th is a load of over-commercialized nonsense - wots it got to do with the Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot?  Fireworks are dangerous in any hands, not only under eighteens.

I've long thought what an oddity Bonfire night is - a Christian (at the time mainly Protestant) nation ceremonially burning the effigy of a Catholic spy/operative. It's rather esoteric, very pagan, which is in no small part ironic coming 5 days after Samhain. Then we throw in some Chinese gunpowder because why not.

Let's be honest though, it may not be the most wallet draining, but Valentine's is the absolute worst of the commercial holidays. Basically just exists for people who don't know how to be romantic, so they can throw some cheap chocolates and flowers at their partner and feel like Don Juan for a day. It literally promotes laziness at its essence.

On the fireworks - I must admit it feels wrong walking past a fireworks cabinet in a supermarket. They should not be so accessible. Can't make them illegal, but just cutting down on random supermarket purchases 'because they were there' is a start. As a kid I remember having a little box of safe indoor fireworks (parental guidance obviously, they still needed matches) and I got infinitely more out of those than looking at the same pretty lights in the sky over and over.
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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by Verdi on 02.11.16 0:44

@April28th wrote: Then we throw in some Chinese gunpowder because why not.
I tried a personal one man band type boycott of all things Chinese some long while ago - it went off like a damp squib!

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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by Roxyroo on 02.11.16 1:01

@lj wrote:Sadly commerce has ruined about every holiday I can think off. Prosperity boiling over alright.  
Years ago, during a period money was very tight, we celebrated Christmas with gifts that did not cost anything or max $ 5. I got lectured by a mother of one of my daughter's classmates that I was "damaging" the girls.
I decided then en there that this would be our Christmas, even if we ever would have plenty of money. Nowadays we spend our "Christmas" money on doing things for people and/or animals in need.

I wonder how her children turned out?

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Post by Roxyroo on 02.11.16 1:02

@April28th wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
November the 5th is a load of over-commercialized nonsense - wots it got to do with the Guy Fawkes and the gunpowder plot?  Fireworks are dangerous in any hands, not only under eighteens.

I've long thought what an oddity Bonfire night is - a Christian (at the time mainly Protestant) nation ceremonially burning the effigy of a Catholic spy/operative. It's rather esoteric, very pagan, which is in no small part ironic coming 5 days after Samhain. Then we throw in some Chinese gunpowder because why not.

Let's be honest though, it may not be the most wallet draining, but Valentine's is the absolute worst of the commercial holidays. Basically just exists for people who don't know how to be romantic, so they can throw some cheap chocolates and flowers at their partner and feel like Don Juan for a day. It literally promotes laziness at its essence.

On the fireworks - I must admit it feels wrong walking past a fireworks cabinet in a supermarket. They should not be so accessible. Can't make them illegal, but just cutting down on random supermarket purchases 'because they were there' is a start. As a kid I remember having a little box of safe indoor fireworks (parental guidance obviously, they still needed matches) and I got infinitely more out of those than looking at the same pretty lights in the sky over and over.


In the supermarket you must leave the shop immediately after buying fireworks, they must really hate that rule! (Supermarkets)
Its all such a waste of money, time and the poor animals frightened for weeks afterwards. We had an old dog that had been trained in the Rhodesian/Zimbabwean conflict and the noise of the fireworks around this time of year was so distressing for her it broke our hearts

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Post by Verdi on 02.11.16 1:20

@lj wrote:Sadly commerce has ruined about every holiday I can think off. Prosperity boiling over alright.  
Years ago, during a period money was very tight, we celebrated Christmas with gifts that did not cost anything or max $ 5. I got lectured by a mother of one of my daughter's classmates that I was "damaging" the girls.
I decided then en there that this would be our Christmas, even if we ever would have plenty of money. Nowadays we spend our "Christmas" money on doing things for people and/or animals in need.
I tried buying presents in the January sales - it went down like a lead balloon.

People and animals in need bravo .

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Re: The 'F' word: It's that time of year again

Post by plebgate on 02.11.16 8:42

Money, money, money.   Trollies full of booze and unhealthy food. 

The shops love it.

I watched the Channel 4 show the other night about Cameron's Act to try and get children healthy by 2025 or something like that.  A very large document which sounded very good.

Since Teflon has been PM this document has halved in size and a lot of the good ideas have been taken out.    People want to know why especially Jamies Oliver (gets on my nerves but he does have a very good point about this issue).

It does seem odd that she should do this because IIRC we read a couple of years back about how ill she had been and is diabetic.    I would have thought that being diabetic and with 5 million Brits estimated to be diagnosed with type 2 diabetic within five years it would have been one of her first duties to carry on where Cameron left off for the sake of the Nation and the disastrous effect this will have on NHS budget.

Sorry to sort of go off topic but Why indeed has she done a hatchet job on Cameron's "legacy"?

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