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Post by Jill Havern on 26.08.10 11:46

You've had one aswell? bigshock

Blimey, what's a girl gotta do to get a good Rucking around here? wtf
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Post by Judge Mental on 26.08.10 11:56

May one suggest having a sex-change? big grin

From what one is able to glean, it has only been males who have been targetted in this instance.
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Post by aiyoyo on 26.08.10 12:03

Bogus letter then if every one with balls have got this standard letter!

Not difficult to make up letterhead these days what with evolving IT technology.

Come to think of it....both sides can play this silly game isn't it.

Team of professional hackers ......yeah.....it's becoming a hobby for some.
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Post by Judge Mental on 26.08.10 12:07

@aiyoyo wrote:Bogus letter then if every one with balls have got this standard letter!

Not difficult to make up letterhead these days what with evolving IT technology.

Come to think of it....both sides can play this silly game isn't it.

Team of professional hackers ......yeah.....it's becoming a hobby for some.

One has seldom seen such cheap paper since a sojourn through Russia in the 1960s, so one's suspicions were immediately aroused.
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Post by Jill Havern on 26.08.10 12:23

@Judge Mental wrote:There are some who say these letters may not have actually come from 'the most feared libel lawyers', but were sent by mischievous posters who have found out addresses and merely wish to scare TMF's supporters.

Ah ok, in that case Muratfan must have sent the mischievous, fake letter to my old address which he published on his blog a few weeks' ago. roll

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Post by Judge Mental on 26.08.10 12:42

This was sent to one's mailbox some moments ago and it rather looks as if muratfan has realised he has been somewhat recalcitrant and in so doing has storing up trouble for himself by pretending to have been in the bosom of 'the world's most feared libel lawyers'.

It is of course nonsense to suggest that Tony Bennett, The Madeleine Foundation or anybody else for that matter, are at any risk for merely asking that this case continue to be investigated. It is quite ludicrous that somebody would go out on a limb to spout such scaremongering rhetoric. One has still yet to be made aware of any libel whatsoever. The only libel one has seen to date has been that of the fanatical converts from yesteryear.

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''Bennett Released The Foundation E-Mails On PURPOSE
REMEMBER WHEN BENNETT, BY ACCIDENT, SENT OUT EVERYONE'S E-MAIL ADDRESSES ON A E-MAIL TO ALL MEMBERS?
WELL THERE WAS ONE OR TWO E-MAIL ADDRESSES MISSING FROM THE LIST, NAMELY THOSE OF LAWYERS WORKING FOR CARTER RUCK. BENNETT HAS SOLD YOU DOWN THE RIVER TRYING TO SAVE HIS OWN SKIN. SO ASK YOURSELVES FOUNDATION MEMBERS THIS QUESTION.

WILL YOU SUPPORT BENNETT ONCE YOU KNOW THIS FACT.....THOSE PEOPLE BACKING HIM AND PROVIDING MONIES YOU ARE LIABLE FOR BENNETT WHEN CARTER RUCK WIN THE FORTHCOMING CASE AND WIN DAMAGES. PROBLEM IS THOSE BACKERS WILL BE ASKED TO MAKE UP THE SHORTFALL.

IT IS THE WAY IT GOES I AM AFRAID.

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why Did I Not Know Bradford Had A Carter Ruck Letter?
Must admit i did not know, but then somethings i delete from my inbox without reading them first. However i do know Havern has had letters, as obviously Bennett has had.
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Post by kangdang on 26.08.10 13:59

Utter rubbish. Muratfan is merely attempting to create discord amongst MF members and supporters. Tony Bennett has not sold out on his supporters, I can assure all of that.

I have seen no mention of Sharon Bradford or Jill Havern being C-R'd, pure speculation.


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Post by aiyoyo on 26.08.10 14:57

Oh.....those fake letters will be of interest to CR and police isnt it?

Muratfang.......playing pretendy CR?

What's next ?pretendy cop?
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Post by kangdang on 26.08.10 15:45

[quote="aiyoyo"]Oh.....those fake letters will be of interest to CR and police isnt it?

Muratfang.......playing pretendy CR?

What's next ?pretendy cop?[/quote]

He has already claimed he was as a serving officer at Nottinghamshire constab. Just as he has revealed on JATYK and his blog that he has, or knows someone who has, access to the PNC. Don't you recall all the revealing of LA's alleged criminal record and revelations that he was in a relationship with Maxine Carr. Of course he has also claimed that the PNC is where he obtained details of Tony Bennett's criminal record.

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Post by aiyoyo on 26.08.10 17:01

[quote="kangdang"]
@aiyoyo wrote:Oh.....those fake letters will be of interest to CR and police isnt it?

Muratfang.......playing pretendy CR?

What's next ?pretendy cop?[/quote]

He has already claimed he was as a serving officer at Nottinghamshire constab. Just as he has revealed on JATYK and his blog that he has, or knows someone who has, access to the PNC. Don't you recall all the revealing of LA's alleged criminal record and revelations that he was in a relationship with Maxine Carr. Of course he has also claimed that the PNC is where he obtained details of Tony Bennett's criminal record.

In his dream perhaps!
Which is it then? Delusion of grandeur or he was sacked ?

How come he's now reduced to chauffeur (sp) of his family van as someone claimed.......?

Yeah, we all know a copper or two. or maybe a judge or two......what's the big deal? All depends on one's social circle isn't it?

People who feel the need to claim they were once this and that needs their head examined. Anyway I dont waste time reading hallucinatory stuff churned out by bottom feeder.

If the picture appearing elsewhere of him was indeed him and partner, that pic was not taken in norwich, not unless there is that kind of window grill in norwich? Which I doubt....have anyone else noticed the window grill? Prison like to me.
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Post by baconbutty on 26.08.10 18:17

IIRC this is the same idiot who pretended to be a Glenfield nurse on the Mirror forum.
He gave himself away because he was posting on the same thread with two usernames and started commenting inappropriately out of the wrong sock. When he realised what he'd done he deleted the post, but quite a few eagle eyes had already spotted it! 'muratfan' and my father - a new low for 'muratfan'? - Page 4 110921
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Post by kangdang on 26.08.10 19:07

what a numpty

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Post by Judge Mental on 26.08.10 20:47

@baconbutty wrote:IIRC this is the same idiot who pretended to be a Glenfield nurse on the Mirror forum.
He gave himself away because he was posting on the same thread with two usernames and started commenting inappropriately out of the wrong sock. When he realised what he'd done he deleted the post, but quite a few eagle eyes had already spotted it! 'muratfan' and my father - a new low for 'muratfan'? - Page 4 110921

Without wishing to sound sympathetic to whomever is responsible, it would be difficult to ascertain that a person acting alone has issued these threatening letters.

However, if one were an imposter wishing to behave in a threatening manner, one would certainly not show allegiance to a firm who were looking after the interests of Trafigura, who in turn had employed the services of Kevin Halligen.

Where is the kudos in so doing? The person or persons doing this, must either be sick, or genuinely not know what a lions den they have engaged with there. People who receive bona fide letters from this firm in future, may disregard them as hoaxes, and put them straight through their shredder, ignoring the threats therein at possible cost to their livelihoods. Perhaps these hoaxers did not think this through properly or count the cost for the firm they so revere.
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Post by kangdang on 26.08.10 21:47

The authenticity of one particular C-R letter is currently being checked out Judge.

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Post by aiyoyo on 27.08.10 1:27

@Judge Mental wrote:
@baconbutty wrote:IIRC this is the same idiot who pretended to be a Glenfield nurse on the Mirror forum.
He gave himself away because he was posting on the same thread with two usernames and started commenting inappropriately out of the wrong sock. When he realised what he'd done he deleted the post, but quite a few eagle eyes had already spotted it! 'muratfan' and my father - a new low for 'muratfan'? - Page 4 110921

Without wishing to sound sympathetic to whomever is responsible, it would be difficult to ascertain that a person acting alone has issued these threatening letters.

However, if one were an imposter wishing to behave in a threatening manner, one would certainly not show allegiance to a firm who were looking after the interests of Trafigura, who in turn had employed the services of Kevin Halligen.

Where is the kudos in so doing? The person or persons doing this, must either be sick, or genuinely not know what a lions den they have engaged with there. People who receive bona fide letters from this firm in future, may disregard them as hoaxes, and put them straight through their shredder, ignoring the threats therein at possible cost to their livelihoods. Perhaps these hoaxers did not think this through properly or count the cost for the firm they so revere.

hi JM

I dont get the impression it was allegiance to libel law firm.
CR name was conveniently used as a baton by the menace for his own purpose.
You're right JM, person sending the bogus letters then bragging about it suggests mind of a v. sick person. Any sane person with allegiance to CR would not exploit CR name with bogus letters because all that does is cry wolf and soon he'll be shown up for his true colour.

Dont forget h'd claimed to be ex police, ex nurse...this and that. He also made sick joke about dying person. If people look at this objectively and observe his menacing utterance, it would seem this person-in-discussion has a mind obssessed/revolved around criminal activities.
He has a pattern of trashing posters who are on the side of law, smearing them and claiming them to be paedo or performing some lewd acitivties in public, at the same time he cant stand people who had done some heroic activities like been in war.

Of the other side of his persona he has a natural urge to defend criminal or to put it mildly he has an involuntary criminal desire to help fellow criminal, people on the wrong side of the law, to get away from their crime; as evidenced in the case under discussion for example.

It's not a given he's associated to team mccanns or CR....that could be misguided assessment or people are over estimating his perceived role. He's probably just a very lone psycho with a very trouble psyche and/or with a criminal past hence the patterns of his thoughts and manifested disturbing menancing behaviour.
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Post by Guest on 27.08.10 19:30

I knew some local police officers who thought they were above the law and blatantly corrupt who thought they were so clever getting information of the PNC - those police officers are now in prison. It is also a criminal offence to hack into peoples computers so those people who are doing it should know they need to stop or they will find themselves being investigated for what is a criminal offence. Again some people think they are clever but they dont realise they are the ones being investigated for a criminal offence.

It is not a criminal offence to ask questions about cases where those involved are blatantly telling untruths. It is a criminal offence to harrass people, to threaten people and to hack into peoples computers, that is a fact.
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Post by Doceedo on 02.09.10 21:16

Looks like Muratfan's blog has been pulled by Blogger??
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Post by Jill Havern on 02.09.10 21:36

@Doceedo wrote:Looks like Muratfan's blog has been pulled by Blogger??

So it does.

Seems they're drowning their sorrows about it here http://justathoughtyouknow.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=guests&action=display&thread=620
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Post by kangdang on 02.09.10 21:38

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Great isn't it. I get closed down for legal reasons whilst Bennett and his cronies peddle crap everywhere.
No justice anywhere is there.
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I am shocked. Who has done this?
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Oh dear, mf. It was looking really classy with the rain effect, too :'(

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CR to Bennett~~~Given the frankly incoherent and and illogical contents of your letter, we must say that we find it difficult to believe you have taken any legal advice

In case of harrassment from vigilantes, contact:


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Today at 8:03pm, sabot wrote:

I am shocked. Who has done this?


At this time i do not know...they are sending me the details. Am rather pissed off to say the least. And they have blocked my account with them to so i cannot do another blog.
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Today at 8:10pm, bonnybraes1 wrote:
Oh dear, mf. It was looking really classy with the rain effect, too :'(

I am a great believer in, treat like as like. Who is the host of the hate site forums? Wink
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Well that is one angle to think about Bonny.

The other could be that you really were getting under Bennett's skin Muratfan - that is if it was him?


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Just deciding what to do next,is it worth the hassle i do not know. I will have to wait until i get these letters they received so it could be a few days.
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Oh dear, mf. It was looking really classy with the rain effect, too :'(

ETA, Our friends weren't worried in case it prejudiced T*** B******'s forthcoming trial, were they [image]

Nothing can help Bennett now. Not even a good lawyer. 50 grand......gone.
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I was thinking similarly to you Tony. There's nothing he can do that will change what's headed his way. He seems to have been obsessed with MF instead of looking to himself.
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Oh dear, mf. It was looking really classy with the rain effect, too :'(

ETA, Our friends weren't worried in case it prejudiced T*** B******'s forthcoming trial, were they [image]


Well, if that's so, that would suggest criminal rather than civil proceedings -- ie an action by the high court to bring Bennett to book for contempt in respect of breach of his undertakings to it rather than suing him for libel. And the blog would be pulled under the sub judice laws.

Thing is that that route is the rather odd anomaly of civil proceedings that can result in a prison sentence -- where sub judice laws are concerned exculsively with criminal proceedings. So I'd be inclined to think that isn't it.

But I could be wrong ...

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Oh dear, mf. It was looking really classy with the rain effect, too :'(

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Post by kangdang on 02.09.10 21:44

Might have something to do with Ian West pretending to be a rather well known female celeb... rotfl rotfl :ambersuz:

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Post by Jill Havern on 02.09.10 21:46

Better not laugh too hard though cos TTW4's blog was shut down this week so I guess ours could be next.
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@kangdang wrote:Might have something to do with Ian West pretending to be a rather well known female celeb... rotfl rotfl :ambersuz:

You know who the pic belongs to?
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Look at the people follow murwhatt/West on Twitter...anna raccoon aka Susanne Nundy... rotfl amongst a bunch of...19 to be precise...unknowns, and that woman wonders why no-one will touch her with a barge poll! She is the laughing stock of the web, harvester prolifiker...laugh laugh

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