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Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

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Post by haroldd2 on 22.06.16 13:29

The following line of thought was stimulated by consideration of the suggestion that the video by Jon Corner in 2010 includes a "secret message". The line is this: if someone's doing that, they may well be as crazy as hell. Four questions.

• What is known about GM and KM's psychological backgrounds since they were children? Does anything stand out? Any exceptionally peculiar behaviour? Any cruelty to animals?

• Does either of them believe they are some kind of superman (or superwoman), way way above ordinary mortals?

I know their profession requires routine lying and deception every day, covered up with "we're better than you" and "if you want to find stuff out, you're a bloody nuisance and there's probably something wrong with you" and a kind of collective club delusion of intellectual superiority (even though you can hardly call a medical degree a serious one academically, and 99.9% of medics haven't got doctorates in anything). Some specialist medics believe that patients can never understand proper explanations. Some say one thing to one person suffering with a complaint and the opposite to another person suffering from the same complaint, and enjoy scaring people. Drug abuse is also rife among these types. I also know that skill in the said areas and a predilection for this way of relating to other people is probably even stronger in those who climb their way up the career ladder, to where the big contracts are pushed for and decided, than it is among those who survive on only 100K and six freebie holidays to Dubai each year, paid for by Big Pharma. (If the population knew even a quarter of it, there would be riots on the streets. Start with "Do Not Resuscitate" orders in hospitals; continue with how Bayer dominate GPs' surgeries as completely as Hills dominate surgeries run by pet vets.) But is there anything to suggest that either GM or KM suffers from this mindset in a much deeper way, deeper even than most medics?

• If this is what is going on, which one of them is the boss?

• What kind of books do they enjoy reading?

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Post by willowthewisp on 22.06.16 13:40

Hi harold2, I would ask for some empathy of your questions at the present moment with regards of what you are asking, as there is supposed to be an Investigation Operation Grange as to what has happened to their daughter,Madeleine, who disappeared from her holiday apartment 03 May 2007?

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Re: Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

Post by petunia on 22.06.16 14:13

Well I for one have no empathy for either Kate or Gerry,my empathy would be for Madeleine and I doubt she was alive from the moment we heard her name.If I had to chose who I thought was disturbed I would not hesitate to say Kate would be my choice she is the one wanted Amaral to feel fear and pain,she is the one who had no respect for Mrs Fenn she is the one who wrote about her Daughters genitals,in fact I would say it is her that loves the limelight more these days than him IMO she is one disturbed individual. in fact wheres that picture of her in the fur coat looking out of the car window? that IMO is who she is.


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Re: Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

Post by DENNISSALLY on 28.06.16 20:59

I believe GM is the boss of the McCanns as the way KM clings on to Gerry is like she is afraid he will run away.
The books that were photographed by Gerry's bedside locker in the other apartment they rented after they left apartment 5a makes some interesting reading material.

"Missing and Abducted Children" A Law Enforcement Guide to Case Investigation and Program Management.

"Every Second Counts" Lance Armstrong.

"Every Five Minutes" A Review of the Available Data on Missing Children in the UK.

"The Interpretation of Murder"

Also a book on child trafficking and a spiritual book. The one that stands out to me is the first one on the above list and for obvious reasons. I find his reading material like his own guide to be one step ahead of the law.

Although I find them both calculating people I do believe there is a smugness about GM, the way he smirks when being interviewed like your not going to catch me out, that's understandable as they only do interviews when they have prior knowledge of the questions going to be asked and they have a huge say in the questions they will or not answer.

What father would even think of a fund and be able to set it up so soon after the supposedly abduction? The list could go on and on and as for KM, she is an only child and I would safely say used to getting her own way throughout her childhood.

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Post by MayMuse on 28.06.16 21:11

@DENNISSALLY wrote:I believe GM is the boss of the McCanns as the way KM clings on to Gerry is like she is afraid he will run away.
The books that were photographed by Gerry's bedside locker in the other apartment they rented after they left apartment 5a makes some interesting reading material.

"Missing and Abducted Children"  A Law Enforcement Guide to Case Investigation and Program Management.

"Every Second Counts"  Lance Armstrong.

"Every Five Minutes"  A Review of the Available Data on Missing Children in the UK.

"The Interpretation of Murder"

Also a book on child trafficking and a spiritual book.   The one that stands out to me is the first one on the above list and for obvious reasons.   I find his reading material like his own guide to be one step ahead of the law.

Although I find them both calculating people I do believe there is a smugness about GM, the way he smirks when being interviewed like your not going to catch me out,  that's understandable as they only do interviews when they have prior knowledge of the questions going to be asked and they have a huge say in the questions they will or not answer.  

What father would even think of a fund and be able to set it up so soon after the supposedly abduction?   The list could go on and on and as for KM, she is an only child and I would safely say used to getting her own way throughout her childhood.
I agree  yes  Very puzzling that reading material, do we know where they obtained them, or who from?

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Post by DENNISSALLY on 28.06.16 21:30

I believe the Police themselves were baffled as to how he obtained the first book (The first one I listed ) Gerry obviously never bought it in the local book store out in Portugal and did he take it in his luggage on his way to Portugal that is a thought worth thinking about? Would a member of the UK police give its to him while out there and if so why?

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Post by MayMuse on 28.06.16 21:43

@DENNISSALLY wrote:I believe the Police themselves were baffled as to how he obtained the first book (The first one I listed )  Gerry obviously never bought it in the local book store out in Portugal and did he take it in his luggage on his way to Portugal that is a thought worth thinking about?  Would a member of the UK police give its to him while out there and if so why?
I wonder if it was anyone linked to CEOP?

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Re: Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

Post by DENNISSALLY on 28.06.16 22:53

Very good point, I never thought of that.

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Post by plebgate on 29.06.16 6:49

@willowthewisp wrote:Hi harold2, I would ask for some empathy of your questions at the present moment with regards of what you are asking, as there is supposed to be an Investigation Operation Grange as to what has happened to their daughter,Madeleine, who disappeared from her holiday apartment 03 May 2007?
I doubt any poster on this forum is qualified to say whether someone is crazy or not and I agree that it is not really a question to be asking (at any time imo).

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Post by sar on 29.06.16 8:27

@MayMuse wrote:
@DENNISSALLY wrote:I believe the Police themselves were baffled as to how he obtained the first book (The first one I listed )  Gerry obviously never bought it in the local book store out in Portugal and did he take it in his luggage on his way to Portugal that is a thought worth thinking about?  Would a member of the UK police give its to him while out there and if so why?
I wonder if it was anyone linked to CEOP?
Hhhmm....[scratches chin!!!]

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Re: Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

Post by HelenMeg on 29.06.16 10:12

I dont think either are mad or insane... I think they just reacted to extreme and unique circumstances - once a cover up was in process then the lies had to continue.
The extreme stress and desperation of the circumstances they have been in for the last 9 years is bound to take its toll. They have made stupid decisions and paid the price.
They lost a daughter - that, on it's own, is enough to change a person's life.
Having said that , as someone else said above - we are not qualified to say if they are mad and nor should we...  smilie

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Post by Juulcy on 29.06.16 11:32

@haroldd2 wrote:
I know their profession requires routine lying and deception every day, covered up with "we're better than you" and "if you want to find stuff out, you're a bloody nuisance and there's probably something wrong with you" and a kind of collective club delusion of intellectual superiority (even though you can hardly call a medical degree a serious one academically, and 99.9% of medics haven't got doctorates in anything). Some specialist medics believe that patients can never understand proper explanations. Some say one thing to one person suffering with a complaint and the opposite to another person suffering from the same complaint, and enjoy scaring people. Drug abuse is also rife among these types. I also know that skill in the said areas and a predilection for this way of relating to other people is probably even stronger in those who climb their way up the career ladder, to where the big contracts are pushed for and decided, than it is among those who survive on only 100K and six freebie holidays to Dubai each year, paid for by Big Pharma. (If the population knew even a quarter of it, there would be riots on the streets. Start with "Do Not Resuscitate" orders in hospitals; continue with how Bayer dominate GPs' surgeries as completely as Hills dominate surgeries run by pet vets.) But is there anything to suggest that either GM or KM suffers from this mindset in a much deeper way, deeper even than most.
I have been working in a GPs office for over 20 years, I have several friends who are GPs and I am married to one. Although I can say with certainty they are just people and as such not better then anyone else, I strongly oppose your weird ideas about GPs and the way they think and work according to you. It is utter BS. Please stick to facts when discussing the case or KM and GM. You may not like them, or deem them guilty or whatever, but they are not members of some secret society of lying GPs who even don't have degrees (?).
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Re: Might either GM or KM be crazy? Following this line of thought, four questions

Post by aquila on 29.06.16 12:26

@haroldd2 wrote:The following line of thought was stimulated by consideration of the suggestion that the video by Jon Corner in 2010 includes a "secret message". The line is this: if someone's doing that, they may well be as crazy as hell. Four questions.

• What is known about GM and KM's psychological backgrounds since they were children? Does anything stand out? Any exceptionally peculiar behaviour? Any cruelty to animals?

• Does either of them believe they are some kind of superman (or superwoman), way way above ordinary mortals?

I know their profession requires routine lying and deception every day, covered up with "we're better than you" and "if you want to find stuff out, you're a bloody nuisance and there's probably something wrong with you" and a kind of collective club delusion of intellectual superiority (even though you can hardly call a medical degree a serious one academically, and 99.9% of medics haven't got doctorates in anything). Some specialist medics believe that patients can never understand proper explanations. Some say one thing to one person suffering with a complaint and the opposite to another person suffering from the same complaint, and enjoy scaring people. Drug abuse is also rife among these types. I also know that skill in the said areas and a predilection for this way of relating to other people is probably even stronger in those who climb their way up the career ladder, to where the big contracts are pushed for and decided, than it is among those who survive on only 100K and six freebie holidays to Dubai each year, paid for by Big Pharma. (If the population knew even a quarter of it, there would be riots on the streets. Start with "Do Not Resuscitate" orders in hospitals; continue with how Bayer dominate GPs' surgeries as completely as Hills dominate surgeries run by pet vets.) But is there anything to suggest that either GM or KM suffers from this mindset in a much deeper way, deeper even than most medics?

• If this is what is going on, which one of them is the boss?

• What kind of books do they enjoy reading?
Four questions?


I object to the title of this thread.

I object to its inference.

I object to the word 'crazy'.

I object to bringing the forum into disrepute.


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