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11 Nov 2008 to 11 Nov 2015 Jersey Childrens Home Scandal - Haut la Garenne - SEVEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the disgraceful suspension of Police Chief Graham Power

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11 Nov 2008 to 11 Nov 2015 Jersey Childrens Home Scandal - Haut la Garenne - SEVEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the disgraceful suspension of Police Chief Graham Power

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.11.15 23:38


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Re: 11 Nov 2008 to 11 Nov 2015 Jersey Childrens Home Scandal - Haut la Garenne - SEVEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the disgraceful suspension of Police Chief Graham Power

Post by Doug D on 12.11.15 8:46

Thank you TB.
 
Interesting comment at end by Stuart Syvret as well.
 
For those that don’t know him:
 
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‘Jersey's former health minister has been sentenced to three months in prison after refusing to take down articles on his blog making serious allegations against a number of people on the island.
Stuart Syvret, described by one judge as "a thorn in the side of the [Jersey] establishment", did not attend the court hearing in the royal court in St Helier on Monday but was arrested at his home after locking himself in his flat.
According to John Hemming, a Liberal Democrat MP, Syvret has been unfairly prosecuted for revealing information in the public interest, including evidence that a nurse on the island may have killed some of his patients.
Hemming accuses the Jersey judiciary of behaving oppressively by misusing the Data Protection Act in order to silence its critics.’
 
"He [Syvret] was then prosecuted under the Data Protection Act by Jersey. He was not allowed to adduce as evidence the case to which he referred on his web log, which is a public interest defence that he needed to reveal the failures of the judicial system in Jersey."
 
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/nov/04/jersey-stuart-syvret-jailed-blog-allegations
 
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Prosecuted under the Data Protection Act and not allowed to bring up in Court the evidence that what he said was factual, so how could the Court then know it wasn’t in the public interest?

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Post by BlueBag on 12.11.15 8:48

Corruption everywhere.

We are going backwards.
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Re: 11 Nov 2008 to 11 Nov 2015 Jersey Childrens Home Scandal - Haut la Garenne - SEVEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the disgraceful suspension of Police Chief Graham Power

Post by Benion on 03.10.16 8:34

It happened. It got covered up. I visited Jersey as a child as my relatives lived there. My wealthy, well connected, scumbag wider family did voluntary work at that home. Thankfully I was not a victim, nor were my parents involved, but I saw more than any child should see.

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Post by aquila on 03.10.16 12:06

@Benion wrote:It happened. It got covered up. I visited Jersey as a child as my relatives lived there. My wealthy, well connected, scumbag wider family did voluntary work at that home. Thankfully I was not a victim, nor were my parents involved, but I saw more than any child should see.
You are at liberty to write what you saw on this forum. You are anonymous. I'm sure many people would like to hear what you have to say. Don't be afraid.
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Post by Benion on 03.10.16 12:31

It is not anonymous though. As I have accessed the site via Chrome, it would not be too difficult to trace me. The relatives concerned left the C.I. after the case broke in the press and one of the two has since died. 
I prefer to say as little as possible on the matter. Only reason I posted here today is I was stupid enough to watch the Louis Theroux documentary on BBC iPlayer and it has triggered me again. 
There is nothing I can do to change the white wash, so best not to give out any details and just try to move forward with my life.

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Post by aquila on 03.10.16 12:36

@Benion wrote:It is not anonymous though. As I have accessed the site via Chrome, it would not be too difficult to trace me. The relatives concerned left the C.I. after the case broke in the press and one of the two has since died. 
I prefer to say as little as possible on the matter. Only reason I posted here today is I was stupid enough to watch the Louis Theroux documentary on BBC iPlayer and it has triggered me again. 
There is nothing I can do to change the white wash, so best not to give out any details and just try to move forward with my life.
Here is a big cyber hug from me to you.
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Post by Benion on 03.10.16 13:04

It is what it is. Thankfully I was only very young and so I do not know any names, other than the 2 relatives I know, one of whom has since died and the other lives a long way away from the CI and UK. I have interrogated my dad over it and he has been very vague so I do not know too much, which is a good thing. 
The whole thing reminds me of the McCann case, as it is my belief there was a cover up with Operation Grange. It is one of those things where it has been covered up and the public will never know what exactly happened, or why there was the need to cover it all up. The McCann case will always remain an unsolved mystery and there is nothing anyone (other than the Tapas group) can do to change it.

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Post by aquila on 03.10.16 13:11

@Benion wrote:It is what it is. Thankfully I was only very young and so I do not know any names, other than the 2 relatives I know, one of whom has since died and the other lives a long way away from the CI and UK. I have interrogated my dad over it and he has been very vague so I do not know too much, which is a good thing. 
The whole thing reminds me of the McCann case, as it is my belief there was a cover up with Operation Grange. It is one of those things where it has been covered up and the public will never know what exactly happened, or why there was the need to cover it all up. The McCann case will always remain an unsolved mystery and there is nothing anyone (other than the Tapas group) can do to change it.
Oh please never give up on finding justice for Madeleine McCann, there are too many good people out here that won't allow a cover up to happen.

I'm sorry for your predicament. Don't give up on Madeleine and don't give up on yourself or your faith in humanity.
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Child protection body failed over paedophile reports

Post by MayMuse on 11.10.16 14:02

The Independent Police Complaints Commission found the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) had not dealt with the material properly.
Toronto Police alerted Ceop to website users who had bought films thought to contain indecent images of children. 
It was sent in July 2012, but had not been forwarded to police by late 2013.
It was only when Toronto Police again contacted Ceop in October that year for an update on progress that the oversight was found. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37616825

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CEOP failure 2013?

Post by willowthewisp on 12.10.16 14:03

@MayMuse wrote:The Independent Police Complaints Commission found the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) had not dealt with the material properly.
Toronto Police alerted Ceop to website users who had bought films thought to contain indecent images of children. 
It was sent in July 2012, but had not been forwarded to police by late 2013.
It was only when Toronto Police again contacted Ceop in October that year for an update on progress that the oversight was found. 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37616825
So once again the IPCC has No UK Police Officer been found"Proofed Guilty"of not undertaking their"Official Police Duties"yet received information pertaining to nearly 2500 persons released by Canadian Authorities to the UK Police Force since 2013?
Just what is the"Point" of the IPCC,is it to assist in being"Independent"or is it to find an "ingenious Methodology"as to there not being ultimate proof in the"Correspondence sent" for them to come to a definitive conclusion of Guilt of a Police Officer not fulfilling their"Oaths"?

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Devon and Cornwall Police.

Post by Mirage on 13.10.16 20:37

This has appeared on BBC news site in last three hours:

"Two police officers have been arrested over allegations involving online child abuse and extreme pornography.
The officers have also been suspended in relation to the two separate investigations, the Exeter Express and Echo revealed.
Both officers have been released on bail pending further enquiries.
A further four officers have been restricted from frontline duties at Devon and Cornwall Police.
More on the investigation, plus more Devon and Cornwall news
Deputy Chief Constable Bill Skelly said the allegations will be investigated "swiftly and transparently."
On Wednesday 5 October a police officer was arrested and suspended in relation to an online child abuse investigation.
On Friday 7 October, as a result of the previous incident, officers found evidence that led to a second officer being arrested and suspended on suspicion of possessing extreme pornography.
A further four officers have been restricted from frontline roles while both a criminal and internal misconduct investigation is conducted in relation to the use of a social media account.
The two investigations are being treated separately and are ongoing, Devon and Cornwall Police said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-37647963

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Re: 11 Nov 2008 to 11 Nov 2015 Jersey Childrens Home Scandal - Haut la Garenne - SEVEN YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the disgraceful suspension of Police Chief Graham Power

Post by Benion on 14.10.16 8:03

I do hope we cannot infer that there is a connection between Jersey and Toronto. When my family left the CI they actually moved to Toronto so let's just hope that is an unfortunate coincidence.
I just thought I would update you after my melt down I had on watching the BBC Louis Theroux documentary, which spurred me on to post here. I have now engaged with a psychotherapist and am hoping this will help me come to terms with all this stuff. I have made it clear to the therapist there will be certain things I will not discuss as I am scared of the powerful people behind the white wash and so have resolved not to tell anyone and hopefully with time I will forget about it. 
The whole case is just so very sad and I bet this is not the only children's home where bad stuff like this has gone on.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 14.10.16 8:50

@Benion wrote:I do hope we cannot infer that there is a connection between Jersey and Toronto. When my family left the CI they actually moved to Toronto so let's just hope that is an unfortunate coincidence.
I just thought I would update you after my melt down I had on watching the BBC Louis Theroux documentary, which spurred me on to post here. I have now engaged with a psychotherapist and am hoping this will help me come to terms with all this stuff. I have made it clear to the therapist there will be certain things I will not discuss as I am scared of the powerful people behind the whitewash and so have resolved not to tell anyone and hopefully with time I will forget about it. 
The whole case is just so very sad and I bet this is not the only children's home where bad stuff like this has gone on.
I m reminded again that when the child's skull/coconut found at Haut la Garenne was first examined IIRC by a forensic scientist at Oxford, the lady researcher found that the skull/coconut contained 1.6% collagen.

This proved without doubt that this was a skull not a coconut.

The powers-that-be then pulled in another forensic scientist who was apparently unable to find any collagen at all.

Again IIRC Lenny Harper suggested that the second scientist had not been given the same exhibit.

If we look at cases like Cyril Smith, Jimmy Savile and Greville Janner, in each of those cases ordinary low-level police officers were made aware of clear evidence that they had committed crimes of child sexual abuse. That they were not properly investigated while they were alive shows the massive power that high-level paedophiles can command. They are protected by people like the Head of MI5 and other security services, the Met Police Commissioner and the high-level politicians who surround them.

This high-powered network has clearly been hard at work for over 9 years in the Madeleine McCann case, for whatever reason

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Post by Benion on 16.10.16 20:15

It is my personal belief that with Savile, he probably had so much dirt on powerful people, he was above the law. All he would have had to do is threaten that if he gets arrested, he will bring them all down with him. So we had to wait for his death for victims to come forward and get their complaints taken seriously. I believe he once said his reputation would be destroyed once he died, so he probably realised there would be a massive scandal after he passed away.
What I have never understood about the McCanns is why they have this support. Millions have been spent on the OG cover up. Simply being a doctor does not make you above the law. Shipman was not above the law, nor was Myles Bradbury who is mentioned in the Toronto article. So it must be something greater than that. Do the McCanns have powerful connections that we do not know about?

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Re;11 November 2008,Haute De

Post by willowthewisp on 17.10.16 17:56

Hi Benion,hope you make a recovery from what mishaps have effected you.
Gerry McCann had contact with former Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his Brother John Brown,now Just suppose per chance,what if "John Brown" happened to be the same person on a Rental Car agreement in Prai Da Luiz in April or May 2007,coincidence?

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Post by Benion on 18.10.16 8:08

I am doing a lot better. Ultimately I am one of the lucky ones, as to the best of my knowledge I was not abused at the home. 
I spoke to my dad about Jersey, but not that care home, it has become "the elephant in the room", something we just do not discuss. Only talking about his relatives had him in tears and he just kept saying "I am a victim of this too". I did not ask him to elaborate on this, sometimes it is best not to ask questions.
It is a bit strange going to a therapist and not being able to discuss everything, but since my childhood I have grown up not to trust anyone. Patient-therapist confidentiality can be broken by unprofessional psychologists, so saying "no comment", a bit like I am on criminal trial, is the wisest response.

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Post by Benion on 03.07.17 15:49

So the report out today recommends demolition and recognises the failings of Jersey in protecting these children.
This is a major vindication and I view it as a victory for all affected by this house of horrors.
I am better having gone through therapy and am pleased at this outcome.
I want to thank everyone who posted on this thread for their moral support in an issue that is very painful for me to deal with.

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Post by skyrocket on 03.07.17 17:10

@Benion - yes good news. Thanks for posting and all the best for the future.

I salute Stuart Syvret.

The number of times Eddie indicated in Haut de la Garenne haunts me.

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