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Post by willowthewisp on 15.10.15 17:46

Hi notlongnow,
That has been their objective all along, to obfuscate, manipulate and make mendacious comments about Goncalo Amaral to the gullable public, in the hope that people would tire of their campaign and Give up. Well guess again, after causing such stress to Mrs Brenda Leyland, Martin **nt and Sky, Murdoch's cronies?

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Post by The Rooster on 15.10.15 21:58

I've got to say I have a similar opinion to not long now. I hope it is not a white wash. God help us!

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Post by MRNOODLES on 16.10.15 0:14

Probably fizzle out, money's ran out... just end up another cold case.
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Post by ROSA on 16.10.15 2:58

More millions to be made post investigation I bet but into whose grubby hands

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Post by jeanmonroe on 26.10.15 12:09

What will the closing of OP Grange look like?
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This?



Wojchiech Krokowski?

The 'original' Polish PATSY 'pasty'?

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Post by willowthewisp on 28.10.15 11:21

@jeanmonroe wrote:What will the closing of OP Grange look like?
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This?



Wojchiech Krokowski?

The 'original' Polish PATSY 'pasty'?
Gideon will bring back the pasty tax?
Jeanmonroe, do you know the ingredients inside this tasty "Polish"pasty?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.10.15 12:09

Jeanmonroe, do you know the ingredients inside this tasty "Polish"pasty?
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Oh yes, the 'ingredients'!

'A dash of Locust 'spit', 15 gms of Blue Ringed Octopus 'tentacle', and a large 'amount' of Bullshit, blended together to give a 'nose' of 'a pirate ship, sailing into a Carribbean sunset after plundering the Spanish Main' ARRGHHH, Jim lad!



The 'POLISH' patsy pasty ingredients, 'shines, NOURISHES and protects'

However, if one wants a 'lighter' POLISH snack there's this::



And finally, if one wants a Portuguese 'POLISH' patsy pasty there is a splendid 'specialist' connoisseur one!



'DARK TAN'!

WARNING: To any 'Bake Off' novices, reading this, please do NOT try to EAT the 'above' Polish patsy's pasties at home!

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Post by Nina on 28.10.15 15:03

Just heard on the 3pm  news that they are cutting Op  Grange down to 4 Officers. No further details.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.10.15 15:24

@Nina wrote:Just heard on the 3pm  news that they are cutting Op  Grange down to 4 Officers. No further details.

THAT 'many'?

Only need ONE!

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Post by Doug D on 28.10.15 15:28

Update on the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann


News  •  Oct 28, 2015 14:49 GMT
 
The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) has today, 28 October announced the new structure and changes to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.


The investigation into what happened to Madeleine continues but with a smaller team of officers. Officers investigating her disappearance have completed the huge task of bringing together and investigating the massive amount of information held by colleagues in Portugal, the United Kingdom investigation and the private investigators working on behalf of the McCann family.

They are now following a small number of focused lines of inquiry that have allowed them to reduce the size of the Home Office funded team.

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in May 2007 have been working through material and following investigative inquiries since the Home Office requested a review of the case in May 2011.

Operation Grange is working to support the Portuguese investigation and this work continues.

While there remain lines of inquiry to follow, the vast majority of the work by Operation Grange has been completed.

This work included reviewing all the material relating to the case which were brought together for the first time and amounted to collating over 40,000 documents from United Kingdom and foreign law enforcement agencies, as well as various private investigation companies.

Officers worked meticulously through the information. Some of the material had to be translated into English, facts had to be cross-referred and diligently analysed to ensure an oversight of what the MPS was examining and to search for new lines of inquiry.

Once this work had been completed the review became a full investigation in July 2012.

The investigation team has taken 1,338 statements and collected 1,027 exhibits. Having reviewed all of the documents, 7,154 actions were raised and 560 lines of enquiry identified, and over thirty international request to countries across the world asking for work to be undertaken on behalf of the Met.

Officers have investigated more than 60 persons of interest. A total of 650 sex offenders have also been considered as well as reports of 8,685 potential sightings of Madeleine around the world.

The Grange team received on average two hundred emails a week, and following the media appeal in October 2013 across three countries, received over 7,000 responses.

For an investigation of this size, the extraordinary circumstances of investigating a missing child four years later in another country, the vast wealth of information and theories, it was always going to be an immense task and required a full team of 29 staff working on it.

With the significant amount of work approaching completion, as with all investigations the MPS has reviewed the staff required to progress the remaining work.

A team of four officers will continue to work solely on the Grange investigation, funded by the Home Office. The enquiry has not reached a conclusion, there are still focused lines of investigation to be pursued.

The officers will continue to be overseen by Detective Chief Inspector Nicola Wall, the current senior investigating officer, and sit within an existing major investigation team on the Homicide and Major Crime Command. This will give them access to officers within that team should they be required to support further operational activity.

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, from the MPS said: "The Met investigation has been painstaking and thorough and has for the first time brought together in one place what was disparate information across the world.

"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing and ensure every possible measure is being taken to find out what happened to her.

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case. We have given this assurance to Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.

"The Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry. They have extended every courtesy to Operation Grange and we maintain a close working relationship. I know they remain fully committed to investigating Madeleine's disappearance with support from the Metropolitan Police.

"The Met was asked to take on this exceptional case as one of national interest. We were happy to bring our expertise to bear only on the basis that it would not detract from the policing of London; and the Home Office have additionally funded the investigation above normal grants to the Met. That will continue at the reduced level.

"I have overseen this investigation since 2012 and am very grateful for the enormous assistance of the media and public so far which, through the appeals, have generated new information and lines of Inquiry. "

Our decision and rationale has been discussed with Mr and Mrs McCann.

Mr and Mrs McCann said: "We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years. The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt.

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.

"Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced.
"We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.

"Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry. "
The remaining Operation Grange officers will be deployed to other enquiries within Specialist Crime and Operations.
 
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/metpoliceuk/news/update-on-the-investigation-into-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-135459

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.10.15 15:36

Update on the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann

News  •  Oct 28, 2015 14:49 GMT

The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) has today, 28 October announced the new structure and changes to the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The investigation into what happened to Madeleine continues but with a smaller team of officers. Officers investigating her disappearance have completed the huge task of bringing together and investigating the massive amount of information held by colleagues in Portugal, the United Kingdom investigation and the private investigators working on behalf of the McCann family.

They are now following a small number of focused lines of inquiry that have allowed them to reduce the size of the Home Office funded team.

Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in May 2007 have been working through material and following investigative inquiries since the Home Office requested a review of the case in May 2011.

Operation Grange is working to support the Portuguese investigation and this work continues.

While there remain lines of inquiry to follow, the vast majority of the work by Operation Grange has been completed.

This work included reviewing all the material relating to the case which were brought together for the first time and amounted to collating over 40,000 documents from United Kingdom and foreign law enforcement agencies, as well as various private investigation companies.

Officers worked meticulously through the information. Some of the material had to be translated into English, facts had to be cross-referred and diligently analysed to ensure an oversight of what the MPS was examining and to search for new lines of inquiry.

Once this work had been completed the review became a full investigation in July 2012.

The investigation team has taken 1,338 statements and collected 1,027 exhibits. Having reviewed all of the documents, 7,154 actions were raised and 560 lines of enquiry identified, and over thirty international request to countries across the world asking for work to be undertaken on behalf of the Met.

Officers have investigated more than 60 persons of interest. A total of 650 sex offenders have also been considered as well as reports of 8,685 potential sightings of Madeleine around the world.

The Grange team received on average two hundred emails a week, and following the media appeal in October 2013 across three countries, received over 7,000 responses.

For an investigation of this size, the extraordinary circumstances of investigating a missing child four years later in another country, the vast wealth of information and theories, it was always going to be an immense task and required a full team of 29 staff working on it.

With the significant amount of work approaching completion, as with all investigations the MPS has reviewed the staff required to progress the remaining work.

A team of four officers will continue to work solely on the Grange investigation, funded by the Home Office. The enquiry has not reached a conclusion, there are still focused lines of investigation to be pursued.

The officers will continue to be overseen by Detective Chief Inspector Nicola Wall, the current senior investigating officer, and sit within an existing major investigation team on the Homicide and Major Crime Command. This will give them access to officers within that team should they be required to support further operational activity.

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, from the MPS said: "The Met investigation has been painstaking and thorough and has for the first time brought together in one place what was disparate information across the world.

"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing and ensure every possible measure is being taken to find out what happened to her.

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case. We have given this assurance to Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.

"The Portuguese police remain the lead investigators and our team will continue to support their inquiry. They have extended every courtesy to Operation Grange and we maintain a close working relationship. I know they remain fully committed to investigating Madeleine's disappearance with support from the Metropolitan Police.

"The Met was asked to take on this exceptional case as one of national interest. We were happy to bring our expertise to bear only on the basis that it would not detract from the policing of London; and the Home Office have additionally funded the investigation above normal grants to the Met. That will continue at the reduced level.

"I have overseen this investigation since 2012 and am very grateful for the enormous assistance of the media and public so far which, through the appeals, have generated new information and lines of Inquiry. "

Our decision and rationale has been discussed with Mr and Mrs McCann.

Mr and Mrs McCann said: "We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years. The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt.

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.

"Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced.

"We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.

"Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry. "

The remaining Operation Grange officers will be deployed to other enquiries within Specialist Crime and Operations.
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Mr and Mrs McCann said: "Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine,.'

thinking

That's odd!

They been telling the world 'Madeleine was 'abducted'............('DONATE' TO OUR PRIVATE 'SEARCH' FUND').... for the last 8 1/2 YEARS!

And THAT is the ONLY 'remit' (THE 'ABDUCTION') OG was 'investigating' under!

Now, they 'don't know'?

Oh please, i ain't tied me christmas bells to my leg yet!

Explains ALL the UK Madia 'hoo hah' last week, dosen't it?

jta: Do the only FOUR 'Maddie Cops' still get the £2 MILLION 'ring fenced' investigation 'monies' until next year?

Kate must be 'fuming' that there are still going to be ANY 'cops' on the 'case'!

"We were GLAD when the (Portuguese) investigation was CLOSED" said KM, in her 'bewk' 2011.

'Whether that involves re-opening the 'case' or NOT, it DOSEN'T MATTER' said KM in Lisbon. 2009.(6, SIX, YEARS AGO!)

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.10.15 15:59

'The remaining Operation Grange officers will be deployed to other enquiries within Specialist Crime and Operations.'
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And do the 'bosses' honestly 'think' that the Operation Strange 'Maddie Cops' will NOT be er, 'asked', down the 'pub', by their new, honest, MPS 'mates' 'what have you been doing for the last 4 1/2 years, mate?'

'they'll' have 'it' out of 'them' in an 'instance'..........................'cover-up' or not!

Oh the 'irony', if the 'ex' Maddie Cops get to be 're-deployed' to work alongside MPS 'officers' that DONATED £1,000 to GA's 'appeal' fund!
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"....and the private investigators working on behalf of the McCann family."

YEAH, when the PI's working on behalf of the McCann family were NOT doing 'time' in PRISON for 'fraudulent' activities!


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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 16:09

@DougD..

Update into the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann

Good find, thanks for posting thumbsup 

This requires greater scrutiny but quickly I picked this out..

Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley, from the MPS said: "The Met investigation has been painstaking and thorough and has for the first time brought together in one place what was disparate information across the world.

"This work has enabled us to better understand events in Praia da Luz the night Madeleine McCann went missing and ensure every possible measure is being taken to find out what happened to her.

"We still have very definite lines to pursue which is why we are keeping a dedicated team of officers working on the case. We have given this assurance to Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann.


Reading that it doesn't appear Operation Grange has made any progress since established in May 2011.  Indeed, the words seem very familiary to me - almost as if I read it before in the deep distant past?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 28.10.15 16:22

What 'happened' to DCI 'I nick 'em even before they know they are nicked' Wall's ILOR, she 'wrote, all by herself'? (apparently)

Abducted gone 'missing'?

OG couldn't afford a 'stamp' for the envelope?

If it wasn't so 'serious', it would be 'effing embarrassing'!

38 'full time, elite, experienced, solely dedicated detectives and police 'staff' now ADMITTING they didn't, actually, 'haven't', and never did, have 'a clue', after a 4 1/2 YEARS 'investigation', costing £15+ Million, about what 'happened' to a defenceless, deliberately and consciously, willingly and knowingly, LEFT ALONE, OUT OF SIGHT, IN AN UNLOCKED APARTMENT. WITH TWO OTHER EVEN YOUNGER CHILDREN, by her 'parents', 3 years old 'missing' child!

Oh Andy, how 'mugged and played' were you?

jmo: Shouldn't this 'update' from MET be 'given' it's own 'topic/thread'? 'STICKY' even?

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Post by Ayniia on 28.10.15 17:54

"We oficially announce that the investigation will be closed.
We are glad to tell the public we finally found the pair to the sock we unhearted in PDL.
The MtDNA analysis was inconclusive but we can say that from the look of the hole in the big toe side of the socks , both were used by the same person.
We ask that person to come forward so we can give them the socks back and offer them a pair of nail clippers.
Sincerly Yours,
DCI whatever"

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Post by notlongnow on 28.10.15 18:13

Looks like there are very few people who have any faith left in grange.
I still wonder why they have dragged it on for so long if it is indeed a cover up.
All that will have been achieved in is bringing tens of thousands more doubters since 2011.

If they thought that by doing such a long investigation it was going to finally aquit the Macs,i feel they maybe in for quite a shock,unless they can produce either 

A..arrests

B... proof of an abduction.

All in my opinion of course.

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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 19:32

@jeanmonroe wrote:
jmo: Shouldn't this 'update' from MET be 'given' it's own 'topic/thread'?  'STICKY' even?
Certainly deserves a place of honour - can't let a good thing go to waste and this is certainly one humdinger!

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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 19:55

So let me see now..  a notional £10m has been wasted spent on Operation Grange over a period of four years.  That equates roughly to £2.5m per annum - right so far?

According to this Met Police update, the workforce has been scaled back to four for at least the ensuing year as opposed to nigh on forty permanent staff beavering away for in excess of four years.  The question is - why has another £2m been allocated for 2015/2016?  What are they going to do with all this luvly dirty lucre without all those salaries and no doubt overtime to consider?  Trips to the sun or expensive lunches or cocktails at sundown overlooking the Atlantic?

IF there is a solution in sight, why has a specific budget been set for an indefinite period?  Doesn't sound like progress to me, more like no steps forward  ten steps backward.

Besides, why are they announcing this to the public at large - is that usual police practice, or has it something to do with questions asked in the House of Lords and/or demands being made by the public for the government/Met police to justify the inordinate amount of monies already expended?

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Post by pennylane on 28.10.15 20:11

Operation Grange continues to be all talk and no action.  They were set up by the Home Office in order to spy on the Portuguese investigation and rewrite history (imo).

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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 20:24

@pennylane wrote:Operation Grange continues to be all talk and no action.  They were set up by the Home Office in order to spy on the Portuguese investigation and rewrite history (imo).
thumbup and I totally agree with your opinion!

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Post by HelenMeg on 28.10.15 20:30

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34661256
"The Met said the "vast majority" of the work in its inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance had been completed.It said it was now following a "small number of focused lines of inquiry" which had allowed it to reduce its team's size."

So depends how you interpret this as to whether you are encouraged or discouraged by this. big grin
DCI Wall still in charge.

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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 20:34

@HelenMeg wrote:
So depends how you interpret this as to whether you are encouraged or discouraged by this. big grin
DCI Wall still in charge.
Well, d comes before e in the good old Oxford English so I must go with the discouraged!  Time for a boogie  thing !

Hasn't DCI 'where did I go wrong' Wall retired by now?  If not why not..

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Post by HelenMeg on 28.10.15 20:39

She's almost done her year and not said a word...

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Post by Verdi on 28.10.15 22:25

I shouldn't be surprised if she's been taken off the case - at least full time.  How can the Met justify the expense of such an experienced successful go get 'em to oversee four junior staff (most likely including admin.) investigating an eight and half year old case of a British child that disappeared in Portugal? 

A case which was being thoroughly investigated be the Portuguese police until foreign intervention prevented continuation on the right path, which has been investigated by numerous retired senior police officers, numerous private investigators hired by the McCanns, numerous profilers observers and armchair detectives - and of course the McCanns themselves.  At least Kate McCann who said she spent months trawling through the PJ case files (that they apparently had translated into English for, if I remember correctly, a round figure of £100,000) looking for that missing piece of the jigsaw - leaving no stone unturned.

How many independent investigations/inquiries/documentaries does it need to NOT solve the case of a missing child?  Perhaps DCI Nicola Wall could explain?

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