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Post by Verdi 02.11.15 13:04

A reminder - post Brenda Leyland Coroner's inquest.  The A-team looking mighty pleased with themselves ..

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Same clothes as imaged outside the Rothley residence - same day or just another wardrobe malfunction?

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Post by Mark Willis 02.11.15 16:00

Mr Verdi tracks down MRS Lobby Ludd.
Let's hope he gets his thirty quid.

Meanwhile, to fill the exposé vacuum, I too have an untold story.
That is, I am not going to tell you it.

I am not going to air it on TV because, strangely, they won't touch it with a barge pole.
I can't go to TPV -something to do with some pitch or other being queer.
I said it wouldn't be a Youtube production, knowing full well that would be the only temporary resting place for the putative poison chalice.
The editing suite floor is now 5 foot deep as is my cabin trunk of excuses.
I know.
How about a follow up to troll squishing in The Sun?
I could at least afford a new outfit from that....
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Post by pennylane 02.11.15 16:23

aquila wrote:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If SP has information that could help solve this case then she needs to forward it to the Police.

Anything else is a perversion of justice.

I hear what you're saying BB. However, where this case is concerned I don't trust the police, and so would rather see the information out there first.
What information would that be pennylane?

The promise of a forthcoming documentary that will reveal something of value to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

A promise of a future something or other that may or may not happen?

I'd have thought if Sonia Poulton had anything material she would immediately pass it onto the police, document it and let it be known.

I'd have thought Sonia Poulton would bang a very loud drum and say she has critical evidence to assist in the case of Madeleine's disappearance and she's passed it onto the relevant authorities.
For those of us who have studied this case since May 2007, I don't expect anything jaw dropping to be revealed.  I do believe, however, there are people out there that remain ill-informed regarding the McCanns and their dodgy story, and since TM continue to spin their sick dross, and ferment their dirty tricks campaign against Dr Amaral, the fight to get the truth out there remains a firm objective.  I've seen Sonia Poulton take on creepy Jim Gamble on twitter, and I thought good on her! She may or may not come up with the goods, either way I remain interested to see what (if anything) she has to offer.
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Post by pennylane 02.11.15 16:30

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If SP has information that could help solve this case then she needs to forward it to the Police.

Anything else is a perversion of justice.

I hear what you're saying BB. However, where this case is concerned I don't trust the police, and so would rather see the information out there first.
PennylaneHow dare you disrespect the UK Metropolitan Police Service and cannot understand as to the reason why you are unable to Trust them to be Truthful in their conduct of official investigations, would you mind stepping this way pennylane, as we believe you may have vital information in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? friends
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Post by BlueBag 02.11.15 16:38

When I said she should go to the Police, obviously it should be at the same time as letting other people know what it is - for her own safety.

I agree the Police don't have a good track record in this case, but it's going to have to be the Police and the Justice system in the end.
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Post by aiyoyo 02.11.15 17:20

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Not outside 5 Rothley that's for sure.  A much older property.
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Post by notlongnow 02.11.15 17:26

Think that is Brenda Ls cottage.
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Post by pennylane 02.11.15 17:50

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:When I said she should go to the Police, obviously it should be at the same time as letting other people know what it is - for her own safety.

I agree the Police don't have a good track record in this case, but it's going to have to be the Police and the Justice system in the end.
Hi BB, I agree with you hello

If something thus far undisclosed came to the fore it should be taken to the Portuguese police and nowhere else (imo).  But I believe SP is merely saying there are questions the McCanns have dodged answering that the public deserve an answer to?
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Post by Verdi 02.11.15 19:53

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Not outside 5 Rothley that's for sure.  A much older property.
No indeed - none other then Brenda Leyland's house. 

There was I thinking the film/documentary was supposed to be about the 'Untold Story of Madeleine McCann'.  Why can't she and her troll'ites leave Brenda Leyland in peace - doesn't she have any consideration for the woman's family?  The whole event was just abominable, why keep it alive only for self glory - because that's precisely what this is about.  If she is trying to make a point about media gagging and/or public ignorance, surely there are more humane ways of drawing public attention to the issue rather than using the name of a deceased person to further your cause?

Doesn't Ms Poulton claim to be a professional experienced independent journalist slash social commentator slash humanitarian blah blah blah?

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Post by Verdi 02.11.15 20:03

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Mr Verdi tracks down MRS Lobby Ludd.
Let's hope he gets his thirty quid.

Meanwhile, to fill the exposé vacuum, I too have an untold story.
That is, I am not going to tell you it.

I am not going to air it on TV because, strangely, they won't touch it with a barge pole.
I can't go to TPV -something to do with some pitch or other being queer.
I said it wouldn't be a Youtube production, knowing full well that would be the only temporary resting place for the putative poison chalice.
The editing suite floor is now 5 foot deep as is my cabin trunk of excuses.
I know.
How about a follow up to troll squishing in The Sun?
I could at least afford a new outfit from that....
laugh  My my you're en-forme at present.  You missed your vocation - ever considered being a professional comedian?  You are still but a mere fledgling, there's plenty of time to change course and you know there's no future in conventional journalism.  If you want to get in the groove these days you need to diversify - like radical freelance fringe independent journalism a la Poulton - know what I mean 'Arry?

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Mr Verdi tracks down MRS Lobby Ludd.
Let's hope he gets his thirty quid.

Meanwhile, to fill the exposé vacuum, I too have an untold story.
That is, I am not going to tell you it.

I am not going to air it on TV because, strangely, they won't touch it with a barge pole.
I can't go to TPV -something to do with some pitch or other being queer.
I said it wouldn't be a Youtube production, knowing full well that would be the only temporary resting place for the putative poison chalice.
The editing suite floor is now 5 foot deep as is my cabin trunk of excuses.
I know.
How about a follow up to troll squishing in The Sun?
I could at least afford a new outfit from that....
laugh  My my you're en-forme at present.  You missed your vocation - ever considered being a professional comedian?  You are still but a mere fledgling, there's plenty of time to change course and you know there's no future in conventional journalism.  If you want to get in the groove these days you need to diversify - like radical freelance fringe independent journalism a la Poulton - know what I mean 'Arry?

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I was a journalist as it happens.
When one prerequisite was you could manage joined-up writing, oh, and when it wasn't de rigeur to consume your own weight in chips and burgers or consider the X-Factor as front page news.
If I wanted to be a comedian I could always apply to join the Met... laughat


Back on topic, please.  Mod.
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Post by Liz Eagles 02.11.15 22:13

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Mr Verdi tracks down MRS Lobby Ludd.
Let's hope he gets his thirty quid.

Meanwhile, to fill the exposé vacuum, I too have an untold story.
That is, I am not going to tell you it.

I am not going to air it on TV because, strangely, they won't touch it with a barge pole.
I can't go to TPV -something to do with some pitch or other being queer.
I said it wouldn't be a Youtube production, knowing full well that would be the only temporary resting place for the putative poison chalice.
The editing suite floor is now 5 foot deep as is my cabin trunk of excuses.
I know.
How about a follow up to troll squishing in The Sun?
I could at least afford a new outfit from that....
laugh  My my you're en-forme at present.  You missed your vocation - ever considered being a professional comedian?  You are still but a mere fledgling, there's plenty of time to change course and you know there's no future in conventional journalism.  If you want to get in the groove these days you need to diversify - like radical freelance fringe independent journalism a la Poulton - know what I mean 'Arry?

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FRANK! DAD!
I was a journalist as it happens.
When one prerequisite was you could manage joined-up writing, oh, and when it wasn't de rigeur to consume your own weight in chips and burgers or consider the X-Factor as front page news.
If I wanted to be a comedian I could always apply to join the Met... laughat


Back on topic, please.  Mod.
All joking aside (I've belly laughed at the witty posts), I'm very interested in Mark Willis' view of journalism with regard to the case. Perhaps a separate topic?
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Post by Mark Willis 02.11.15 22:23

Fresh topic? Could fill a book. Maybe be nominated for Pull-it-sir? prize.
I can tell you that behind the scenes that particular medium would make a banana look straight.
But we all knew that, anyway.
What we see today, the corruption, is nothing new.
What is new is we get to see it.
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Post by Liz Eagles 02.11.15 22:37

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Fresh topic? Could fill a book. Maybe be nominated for Pull-it-sir? prize.
I can tell you that behind the scenes that particular medium would make a banana look straight.
But we all knew that, anyway.
What we see today, the corruption, is nothing new.
What is new is we get to see it.
Oh go on Mark, open up a fresh topic and talk about how you see the media in the case of Madeleine McCann. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who would be interested. It's good to have a journalist's view.
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Post by Mark Willis 02.11.15 22:53

Think of the media this way: A magician lies to you. You know it's all bunkum, a trick, a deception.
That's the analogy done.
The UK media, circa 21st century, well ... the bar was always set low but now it's buried deeper than a grainy picture of nothing under a Portuguese, freshly laid driveway.
The MSM, in its present form, is, pun intended, old news.
The Zeitgeist is the Internet. Analogous to the meteorite that wiped out the previous dinosaurs.

Nothing like a mixed metaphor to conclude this evening's odyssey.
... and that was nothing like one.  spin

I must stay in more.  gm
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Post by MRNOODLES 03.11.15 12:42

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Not outside 5 Rothley that's for sure.  A much older property.
No indeed - none other then Brenda Leyland's house. 

There was I thinking the film/documentary was supposed to be about the 'Untold Story of Madeleine McCann'.  Why can't she and her troll'ites leave Brenda Leyland in peace - doesn't she have any consideration for the woman's family?  The whole event was just abominable, why keep it alive only for self glory - because that's precisely what this is about.  If she is trying to make a point about media gagging and/or public ignorance, surely there are more humane ways of drawing public attention to the issue rather than using the name of a deceased person to further your cause?

Doesn't Ms Poulton claim to be a professional experienced independent journalist slash social commentator slash humanitarian blah blah blah?

And how is she going to square the circle in regards of telling a factual account of Brenda and keep her backside regularly parked on the SKY sofa?
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Post by Verdi 03.11.15 20:03

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:  And how is she going to square the circle in regards of telling a factual account of Brenda and keep her backside regularly parked on the SKY sofa?

The way things are going, or not as the case may be, she ain't is she.  Meanwhile, whilst we wait for the long outstanding film/documentary, let us reflect on words of future past..

Sonia Poulton - Published on 7 Oct 2014


This video is in response to the death of Brenda Leyland aka Sweepyface. Despite media demonisation, Brenda was not a troll. She merely didn't believe the abduction theory surrounding Madeleine McCann. Neither do I. Brenda's name, like mine, was part of a McCann dossier handed to Metropolitan Police. I have today invited the police to interview me. This issue is about a number of things, including censorship, and we must fight it.

Snipped..

"I'm a national and international broadcaster and journalist and if you google my name you will see how many publications I've written for globally as well as commented on numerous television and radio shows [gasps for breath]....

I am very aware that by making this video I may never again be invited to contribute to main stream media but that is no enough to shut me up - I believe that we all need to be heard now.... "
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Not sure about 'we' but something seems to have shut 'her' up - at least for the foreseeable future.

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I think a film/documentary progress report is long overdue.

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Post by Liz Eagles 04.11.15 9:54

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], thank you for the link.

I watched the youtube video and scrolled down through all the comments (something I rarely do on youtube stuff).

After reading the posts there from Lee Taylor Ryan I felt as though I'd entered some dark and murky world. I read threats of troll exposure, repeated calling someone a nonce (and naming them) foul language and intimidation, along with an avatar depicting a gun. Is this the team going to bring truth and justice for Madeleine McCann/Brenda Leyland (Sonia can't seem to make up her mind what the documentary is about so it could be either or a mixture)?

I feel very sad this morning reading through all of those posts. Over a year on and no documentary. A teaser trailer one month old today.
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Post by Tony Bennett 04.11.15 10:25

aquila wrote:I feel very sad this morning reading through all of those posts. Over a year on and no documentary. A teaser trailer one month old today.
I do have an update: this exchange on Twitter yesterday  

simon taylor ‏@ riffwood 1 day ago
@ SoniaPoulton  when is the documentary please Sonia ?

Sonia Poulton ‏@ SoniaPoulton 1 day ago
@ riffwood  we'll keep you updated. Everything very close to chest since trailer [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]


I understand that Sonia Poulton has been whingeing on Twitter, calling this forum a 'cess-pit' once again, and furiously denying that she has any connection with Royden James Jones, the man who appeared in Wrexham Magistrates Court last week on charges under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and the Malicious Communications Act. She has also publicly denied any involvement or contact with any other trolling or stalking blogs.

This tweet from two years ago, welcoming the return of the 'Team Outlaw' blog run by Royden Jones (and some say Poulton was admin for that blog) from her says otherwise (theoutlawjimmy = Royden James Jones):

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P.S.   Sonia Poulton recently publicly advised her boyfriend and her camera assistant on the 'Untold Story of Madeleine McCann' documentary, Lee Taylor Ryan, to remove the image on his Twitter and Google accounts of a revolver pointing straight at the viewer. Well, as Aquila has confirmed this morning, it is still there on his Google account. A reminder perhaps of his unresolved anger management issues

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Verdi 04.11.15 20:42

aquila wrote:[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], thank you for the link.

I watched the youtube video and scrolled down through all the comments (something I rarely do on youtube stuff).

After reading the posts there from Lee Taylor Ryan I felt as though I'd entered some dark and murky world. I read threats of troll exposure, repeated calling someone a nonce (and naming them) foul language and intimidation, along with an avatar depicting a gun. Is this the team going to bring truth and justice for Madeleine McCann/Brenda Leyland (Sonia can't seem to make up her mind what the documentary is about so it could be either or a mixture)?

I feel very sad this morning reading through all of those posts. Over a year on and no documentary. A teaser trailer one month old today.
The bloke certainly doesn't do anything to enhance her reputation as a professional journalist and social commentator - looks and sounds like a thug to me.  People like that don't impress me one bit with their vulgar ignorant public image, there's nothing clever, constructive nor funny about lewd language and/or behaviour.  Frankly I'm very wary about Poulton and the company she keeps which makes it very difficult, if not impossible, to believe the veracity of her motives.

Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy.

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Post by Mark Willis 07.11.15 6:29

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"....Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy."
Amen to that, Mr Verdi.
Sums it up, nicely.  goodpost
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Post by Verdi 07.11.15 23:04

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"....Social media is a powerful breakthrough in awareness in essence but becomes a complete joke when represented by one such as Sonia Poulton.  In such circumstances I think I prefer main stream journalism - at lease you know not to believe a thing they publish and that they are only there to satisfy their readership by providing sensational headlines and trashy stories.  Anyone with a degree of noddle knows not to read UK gutter press if they're looking for news and above all else truth and accuracy."
Amen to that, Mr Verdi.
Sums it up, nicely.  goodpost
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Meanwhile, whilst I await with pregnant anticipation,  the premiere showing of the Untold Story of Madeleine McCann, I will highlight one or two discrepencies in the undated published by the Director's Press Release found here..

 http://www.theuntoldstoryofmadeleinemccann.com/

Journalist and broadcaster Sonia Poulton [the director], fascinated by the case from the beginning, has repeatedly questioned the ‘official version of events’. As indeed had many of her media colleagues - although none of them publicly.

To do so, she had been told on several occasions, was ‘career suicide’.

[This remains to be seen - or not as the case may be]

So it was that Poulton, and a small trusted team, independently-financed and have spent the last year filming 'The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann - A War of Information'.

[Independently financed?  So not commissioned as stated by a member of the production team?  If the  end product is to be as claimed by team Poulton, it must have cost a pretty penny - with no guaranteed return?]

An evidence-based documentary prompted by the death of Brenda Leyland in October 2014.

[Evidence based?  Would that be as in evidence contained in the PJ files released into the public domain in the summer of 2008?  The same evidence that has been subjected to internet discussion for over seven years?]

Brenda’s death was a turning point for Poulton and she decided it was time to speak out. She recorded a short message to YouTube expressing her sympathy with Brenda Leyland and supporting her right to free speech.

[I'm frankly astounded it wasn't the disappearance of a three year old child that was her turning point]

The response to this impromptu YouTube made it clear that she was far from alone in this stance.

She discovered tens of thousands of people, from all over the world, congregating on the Internet and questioning the story of Madeleine McCann and whether it was an extraordinary cover up involving the British Government and legal, judicial, medical and media establishments.

[Had she been aware of the case from the beginning she would realise that many people from all over the world have been questioning the background to the case since the summer of 2007.   Is she now trying to take the credit?]

The film includes expert testimony from those who have studied the case as well as encounters with the people at the very heart of the story.

[If this press release is to be believed, I look forward to discovering who these experts are.  If those named in the link are anything to go by, it's not looking very promising]

This documentary explores the disappearance and subsequent events of the case.

[Anyone interested and/or has followed this case over the years will already be aware]

It is a story, as Poulton discovered, that is about more than the disappearance of a child, as tragically sad as that event is.

It is a tale of media censorship, numerous lawsuits and widespread gagging and it draws together friends in high places, social inequality, celebrity endorsement and saving reputations.

[She's quick - see above]

Sensitive to Operation Grange, the ongoing police investigation, Poulton is careful only to address the known anomalies that have arisen since Madeleine’s reported disappearance - and have been in the public domain for a number of years.

Some of these questions arising from the Portuguese Police files which were made public in 2008. Others, still, as a consequence of the actions of Kate and Gerry McCann and the people involved in the Find Madeleine campaign.

[Der -if the anomalies are known then we already know] 

Numerous inconsistencies that have remained unreported and unaddressed in the many media interviews that Kate and Gerry McCann grant as they increasingly make their mark in public life

[At this late stage, I think the majority of people interested in this case are aware of the misrepresentation of the case by the main stream media - so much so I doubt if anyone takes a scrap of notice of what they report short of ridicule]

‘The Untold Story of Madeleine McCann – A War of Information’ is the result of that journey.

[On location - a voyage across my sofa]

Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..

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Post by aiyoyo 08.11.15 2:45

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Ho-hum!   It's not going to happen is it..
 
NOPE!


It's been claimed by the producer "air time" is held close to her chest.  
Read that to mean - she is "bullshitting" because there is no taker.

If timing is essential factor, tomorrow will never come for SP.
A few more changes of James Bond characters will come and go before tomorrow will come for SP's "untold film" premiere.
 
It's her secret production that will follow her to her grave, just like Kate's secret over her missing daughter to be taken to the grave.

SP is (allegedly) waiting for an opportune timing to air, just like Kate is (allegedly) waiting for Madeleine to be found alive; and we know neither one is going to happen even if tomorrow comes as night follows day.
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