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Post by Jill Havern 23.08.17 17:34

http://www.crimeonline.com/2017/08/22/breaking-remains-of-missing-autistic-girl-found-in-a-burn-pile-at-mothers-property/
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A Missouri woman is facing murder charges after authorities found the remains of her 16-year-old daughter in a burn pit on her property. KARE 11 reports that Ozark County Prosecutor John Garrabrant announced on Tuesday that Rebecca Ruud, of Longrun, was arrested and charged with first-degree murder after the remains of her teen daughter, Savannah Leckie, who …

Authorities brought canine dogs to Ruud’s property, and two different dogs at different times hit on the same spot by a burn pile. Someone covered the area with fresh leaves and branches, but authorities found what a forensics expert later confirmed to be human remains and ashes.

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Post by Keitei 23.08.17 17:36

These dogs are so reliable, huge help to law enforcers.

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Post by polyenne 23.08.17 18:07

And used productively in the Italian earthquake in the last few days.
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Post by willowthewisp 23.08.17 18:56

Keitei wrote:These dogs are so reliable, huge help to law enforcers.
Hi Keitei,but not in the case of Madeleine McCann,where numerous acts of Officialdom,try to down play what Martin Grimes Forensic Police dogs Eddie,Keela,alerted to on clothing,car key fob,Car boot,"Nothing to see here,Now move along please"even after Ten years,Scotland yard,never ever wish to discuss,why?
1 If the dogs alerts where wrong,it could jeopardise previous Scotland Yard convictions?
2 Puts Scotland Yard in a very precursor position of a failure of duty?
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Post by Keitei 23.08.17 19:52

willowthewisp wrote:
Keitei wrote:These dogs are so reliable, huge help to law enforcers.
Hi Keitei,but not in the case of Madeleine McCann,where numerous acts of Officialdom,try to down play what Martin Grimes Forensic Police dogs Eddie,Keela,alerted to on clothing,car key fob,Car boot,"Nothing to see here,Now move along please"even after Ten years,Scotland yard,never ever wish to discuss,why?
1 If the dogs alerts where wrong,it could jeopardise previous Scotland Yard convictions?
2 Puts Scotland Yard in a very precursor position of a failure of duty?

For me, it's just clutter & too much of it, I ignore.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4826464/Seattle-K-9s-search-lake-house-kiddie-sex-suspects.html#ixzz4qzJqzqPe

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Post by Jill Havern 15.09.17 16:45

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/15/first-sniffer-dogs-trained-to-detect-digital-data-devices-in-uk-unveiled

First sniffer dogs trained to help find paedophiles, terrorists and fraudsters

Tweed, a springer spaniel, and Rob, a black labrador, learning to help UK police detect hidden data devices

Sniffer dogs trained to help police catch paedophiles, terrorists and fraudsters by detecting hidden digital storage devices have been unveiled in the UK.
Tweed, a 19-month-old springer spaniel, and Rob, a 20-month-old black labrador, are said to the first digital detection dogs outside the US.
The dogs have been trained by Devon & Cornwall and Dorset police but have already been used at crime scenes across the UK. They have been used to sniff out hidden data devices such as USB sticks, SD cards and hard drives.
Ch Supt Jim Nye, commander for the alliance operations department that works across the two forces, said: “These dogs will give the police a new way to fight the threat of terrorism, paedophiles and fraudsters.”

In 2015, dog instructor PC Graham Attwood began to research whether dogs could be used effectively in this way and worked with his counterparts in Connecticut, who use digital detection dogs.
Most dogs used by the south-west forces come from their own puppy breeding scheme, are given as gifts or are rescue dogs. However, Tweed and Rob were bought especially for this job when they were about 15 months old.
Attwood said: “Myself and members of the alliance dog school initially handled and trained Tweed and Rob mainly in our own time as we were committed to our usual daily duties of training the forces’ other operational police dogs.”
Mike Real, a recently retired Connecticut state police dog instructor and co-founder of the American programme, along with special agent Jeffrey Calandra, who is the only digital detection dog handler in the FBI, were invited to Devon for a week to train and assess Tweed and Rob.
They passed their assessment with flying colours and were set to work.
Attwood, added: “Our digital dogs have already proven to be a success and have been used in over 50 warrants executed across the UK, including Hampshire, Essex, south Wales, and North Yorkshire.
“We have already seen some really fantastic results from these two dogs. Tweed on one warrant indicated that something may have been within what looked like a Coke can. This was then inspected by a search officer and discovered that it was actually a money box that had a number of SD cards hidden within it.
“Rob has also indicated a small device hidden carefully in a drawer which would have likely to have been missed by the human eye.”
If the dogs continue to do well, others may be trained. The dogs live at home with their new full-time police dog handlers, PC Martin King and PC Jill Curnow.

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Post by willowthewisp 15.09.17 16:58

Better keep them away from a special group of friends then?
Naughty step,whack from moderator,100 times I must not mention certain things?
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Post by Jill Havern 20.09.17 18:58

Earthquake in Mexico

School collapsed killing many children and trapping hundreds more in the rubble.
They have sent in - - - DOGS.
Just suppose the McCanns said "There is no point. We know they are incredibly unreliable”.
Not even Mendax Mitchell would say that, would he ?
Only Gerry, in the entire world KNOWS . . .   And only he says it.
Because once they admit dogs are reliable - they are finished.

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Post by Jill Havern 21.09.17 21:15

Another useless and 'Notoriously unreliable" dog, searching for children in the rubble of Mexico . . .

Race against time to save little girl trapped in rubble of school destroyed in Mexico earthquake as rescuers identify FIVE other children under the debris 44 hours after the quake struck




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A large piece of concrete is lifted from the disaster zone as marines and volunteers desperately hunt for Frida Sofia and the five other children who are buried with her 


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4905036/Video-shows-moment-kids-rescued-Mexican-school.html#ixzz4tKUn2iP4

Hero: > > > A dog also named Frida (pictured), is helping rescuers search among the rubble in Mexico City. She has saved over 50 people in her career.


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Post by plebgate 22.09.17 22:25

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/23/ukcrime.internationalcrime


posted link without adding - if dogs are unreliable why would the article state that Mr & Mrs had urged the use of them?

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An unreliable dog....SACKED!



A few weeks into CIA training, labrador Lulu began to show signs she simply "wasn't interested in detecting explosive odours".

By Ceren Senkul, News Reporter

Some people just aren't cut out for the realities of a high-pressure work environment - and it would seem the same goes for dogs.

Lulu the labrador's handler had high hopes of her becoming the CIA's latest bomb-sniffing talent, but it was not meant to be.

It started out well, according to a "pupdate" on the CIA's website, but soon started to go downhill.

A few weeks into training, Lulu began to show signs that she simply "wasn't interested in detecting explosive odours", the blog post said.

"Lulu was no longer interested in searching for explosives," the post said.

"Even when they could motivate her with food and play to search, she was clearly not enjoying herself any longer."

The post went on to say that the mental and physical wellbeing of the sniffer dogs is the CIA's priority, so they "made the extremely difficult decision to do what's best for Lulu and drop her from the programme".

But it is not all bad news, as handlers have the option to adopt dogs who are dropped.

Lulu now has a new home, and spends her days chasing rabbits and squirrels in the garden - much less stressful.

It is not clear whether Lulu simply wasn't up to the challenge of sniffing out bombs, or whether it was all part of a cunning plan to never have to go to work.

Either way, she's happy, and so is her handler - and the CIA can now focus on its top dogs.

http://news.sky.com/story/bomb-sniffing-dog-fired-from-cia-for-refusing-to-sniff-bombs-11087751



Don’t you love the idea that the ONE unreliable dog anyone has ever heard of is immediately SACKED?

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Post by Hobs 30.10.17 6:30

The volunteers tasked with searching for 3-year-old Sherin Mathews say they believed they would be able to bring the little girl home.
"I started doing this a long time ago in the military, and there was always a sense of bringing somebody home was something good," said Jerry Seevers, one of the K-9 handlers on the scene Sunday when Sherin's body was discovered in a drain in suburban Dallas.
Seevers and 15 other handlers help make up the team at the nonprofit MARK9 Search & Rescue. The team is made up entirely of volunteers who are specially trained to help law enforcement and first responders in search and rescue operations.
MARK9 assisted Richardson police in several prior searches for Sherin Mathews as police looked in wooded areas near the Mathews family home, helping police rule out certain spots and refocus on others.


Father of Sherin Mathews on Suicide Watch in Dallas Co. Jail

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The father of Sherin Mathews, the 3-year-old Richardson, Texas, girl found dead in a culvert Sunday, is now in the Dallas County Jail and on suicide watch. Meanwhile, her mother is not facing charges, and her attorneys insist she is cooperating with police.
(Published Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2017)
Sunday, five pairs of volunteers and dogs from MARK9 responded to another request from Richardson police to search for Sherin again. Searchers say the weather conditions were ideal. Overnight rain along with a breezy and humid morning helped dogs pick up the scent.
One K-9 led her handler to a field north of the Mathews home and eventually to the culvert where investigators found the small child's body.


"She started doing it from a long way off, and it wasn't an area she was supposed to be looking in, but that's how it concluded," said Seevers, of the K-9's path. "She found her way there.

One of the things we have to do is we have to believe in them and she took us there."



  • Body of Sherin Mathews Released by Medical Examiner

    The teams assist in a wide range of searches, responding to calls from law enforcement at all hours.


"When they say it's a child involved, it's 100 percent everybody in," Seevers said.
In the Sherin Mathews case, the discovery was not the outcome the community hoped for, though it was necessarily to the investigation.

Lawyers: Sini Mathews Had Nothing to Do with Sherin's Death

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The lawyers representing Sini Mathews published a statement late Wednesday afternoon saying Mathews denies any involvement in the death of her adoptive daughter, Sherin.
(Published Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2017)
On Wednesday, Sherin's adoptive father Wesley Mathews was put on suicide watch at Dallas County Jail. He has been charged with felony injury to a child. 
Mathews originally told police that Sherin disappeared while being punished, where she was forced to stand outside by a tree at 3 a.m. for not drinking her milk. A day after her body was found, Mathews told police that his daughter choked to death after he "physically assisted" her in drinking her milk. He then told police that he moved her body from the family's Richardson home, though police haven't said where he said he took the little girl's remains. 
"Being able to bring closure, whether it's a good closure or one you're not expecting, to me is very rewarding," said Chris Holmberg, a chief financial officer for a construction company who volunteered the day before Sherin was found with her German Shepherd, Hope.


  • Caregiver of Sherin Mathews Wants Answers


"You're still dealing with the loss. It's not ours particularly, but once you're involved, you're involved. It becomes a part of you," Seevers said.
He adds that it only strengthens the team's resolve to continue to respond when rescuers call for help.
"You never know when the next call is coming. The fact that you were successful gives you something to say, let's go find the next one," Seevers said.

Body ID'd as Sherin Mathews; Father Says She Choked on Milk

The adoptive father of a 3-year-old Richardson girl whose body was found Sunday is transferred to the Dallas County Jail Wednesday after telling police he witnessed her death.
(Published Wednesday, Oct. 25, 2017)


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/K-9-Handlers-Who-Found-Sherin-Mathews-Share-Their-Story-453464213.html



Darn that unreliable dog, looking in an area she wasn't supposed to be in after detecting the scent of a corpse from a long way off.

Care to explain this one away gerry?

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Post by plebgate 30.10.17 9:58

Excellent work by that darn unreliable dog.

Hi to Lulu.   Enjoy your new life.    Love the story .

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Post by worriedmum 03.11.17 18:23

Cumbria Police Dogs‏ @policedogunit  2h2 hours ago


After finding £1.4m+ drugs, 3 illegal firearms, £350k+ cash & fathering 10 PD pups, it’s time for Alfie to hang up his harness and retire.
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Post by Liz Eagles 03.11.17 18:28

Remember that behind these incredible dogs are incredible dog handlers and an incredible police service.

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Post by Jill Havern 04.11.17 15:43

Two sheepdogs protect entire flock of sheep from wildfire for 20 days

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sheepdogs-maremma-wildfire-save-sheep-british-columbia-canada-a7921396.html

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Post by Jill Havern 13.01.18 15:08

The dog with a nose for notes: Jessie the Heathrow springer spaniel has sniffed out cash worth £1 MILLION being smuggled through the airport 

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Jessie, a two-year-old springer spaniel has only been working with the UK Border Force for five months but has had a 'unprecedented run of success' including finding more than £1million.

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Post by Jill Havern 11.03.18 8:29

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/mar/11/dogs-trained-to-sniff-out-ancient-treasures-looted-from-syria



Dogs trained to sniff out ancient treasures looted from Syria
www.theguardian.com
Special K-9 units may soon be deployed in the fight against terrorists and criminals looting precious artefacts from war zones
And this one had not been trained for anything !

https://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/929982/Breast-cancer-Lena-Roberts-Sky-English-springer-spaniel-pawing-detection-treatment
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And a couple of comments:

  • Friends' terrier used to sniff behind my left knee every time I went for dinner. I had a mole / freckle there. Eventually the dermatologist took it off, and a week later, after it had been to cytology, got me back in to take
    another 2mm each side ! Whatever the infamous two doctors say -

    Dogs are notoriously RELIABLE.
    And these had not even been trained.



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    I had a cat that used to lick a mole on my leg and I ended up going to the Doctor and said to her that my cat was always licking it . Turned out to be a nasty melanoma.


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Post by kaz 11.03.18 10:25

There's no doubt about it, those sniffer dogs are amazing. Trained to do so, they will produce amazing results.
If I were to visit my neighbour and drop a bag of cocaine in his lounge (  for example ) , inform the police who then bring in the sniffer dogs, as sure as anything the dogs will 'sniff' out the contraband or at the very least alert that cocaine had been there at some time. However does that make my neighbour guilty?
The point I'm making is that yes, accepted, the dogs are brilliant but men can be pretty devious. Where the orange/ pink blanket was concerned : The fact that the McCanns gave this blanket to the PJ and the McCanns SAID it was Madeleine's rendered the whole exercise useless as far as tracing Madeleine's whereabouts was concerned.
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Post by Liz Eagles 11.03.18 11:49

Where does the orange/pink blanket sneak its way into the room

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Post by Jill Havern 11.03.18 14:04

http://www.policeprofessional.com/news.aspx?id=31707

Police Professional :: News :: ‘First on the scene’ bomb response police dog to receive humanitarian award

09 Mar 2018


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Mojo: 'True professional'
A "hero" police dog who helped search for bombs after a terror attack will be recognised with an award just weeks before his retirement.

Police dog Mojo will receive the Humanitarian Award at Crufts on Sunday (March 11) for his work as first animal on the scene in the aftermath of last year’s Manchester Arena bombing.

The eight-year-old collie helped hander Police Constable Phil Healy and other British Transport Police (BTP) officers secure the station concourse to protect other responding emergency services.

Both he and PC Healy then searched the blast site for 11 hours to clear it of any more potential explosives.

PC Healy said: “Mojo was different that night. Just like you get to know a colleague, I know him, and I could tell he was upset at what he saw and he didn’t want to be there.

“Nevertheless, like the true professional he is, Mojo worked on through the night, clearing the area until 7am.

“Even then on the way home we had to respond to another call of a suspicious device.”

Mojo was nominated for the Crufts Police Dog Team Operational and Humanitarian Action of the Year Award by the National Police Chiefs’ Council.

The prize will be given in front of 8,000 people before the Best in Show accolade is presented.

Next month, Mojo will retire from British Transport Police (BTP) and will live with PC Healy and his family.

A BTP spokesperson said: “Mojo worked tirelessly in horrendous and traumatic conditions right at the scene of the blast to keep others safe in the aftermath of the bombing.”


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Post by sandancer 11.03.18 15:40

Congratulations Mojo and PC HEALY !!!!  Well deserved     clapping1


Made me laugh though , I bet there's no dog in another Healy/McCann household !  big grin

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Post by mootle 12.03.18 22:02

Seems they are ideal for even the most extreme historical crime investigations

https://amp.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2018/mar/11/dogs-trained-to-sniff-out-ancient-treasures-looted-from-syria?__twitter_impression=true

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Post by polyenne 12.03.18 22:19

Just watched 24 Hours in Police Custody. 12 years after murder/burial, dog scratching at surface of garden.

Lo & behold, body located.
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