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Post by PeterMac 24.06.15 13:20

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Are they advertising on the back of missing children from Police websites.
Anyone understand that this means ?
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Post by Liz Eagles 24.06.15 13:31

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Are they advertising on the back of missing children from Police websites.
Anyone understand that this means ?
This is sick imo, sick beyond belief.
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Post by PeterMac 24.06.15 13:36

What do they mean when they say "We have media opportunities"

Do they mean Jobs, or tame journalists ?
If they can help the police Forces in question, why not give them a ring, or send an email, rather than doing this.
I don't begin to understand


Just out of interest the messages are timed at 0228
Wasn't the new post, for which KM has been pedalling and suffering cyclists crutch for so long, a night supervisor ?
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Post by Liz Eagles 24.06.15 13:40

PeterMac wrote:What do they mean when they say "We have media opportunities"

Do they mean Jobs, or tame journalists ?
If they can help the police Forces in question, why not give them a ring, or send an email, rather than doing this.
I don't begin to understand
What sort of relationship does Missing People have with UK Police when it appears to tout for business on Twitter like an ambulance chaser?
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Post by Doug D 24.06.15 14:14

Get the impression she wasn’t too happy in her foster placements.

Looks like a few failed attempts, but she has managed to ‘disappear’ this time.

23rd September 2014


Missing girl last seen at Sheffield shopping centre
Lili Munteanu

17:34
Wednesday 01 October 2014
A teenage girl missing from her home in Greater Manchester has been seen in Sheffield, police have revealed.


Lili Munteanu, aged 14, from Cheadle, was last seen by her family at her home on Tuesday, September 23. She has been known to travel to the Birmingham area and police say she has recently been to Sheffield’s Meadowhall shopping centre.

Police say they are becoming ‘increasingly concerned’ at the disappearance.


20th November 2014


Police in hunt for 15-year-old girl missing from Llandudno area


            11:00, 23 NOVEMBER 2014
            BY LORNA DORAN

Lili Munteanu, who has links to the Bala and Birmingham areas,  was last seen leaving Cineworld on Thursday
 
Police are appealing for information about a 15-year-old girl who was last seen leaving a cinema at Llandudno Junction on Thursday.
Lili Munteanu, who has links to the Bala and Birmingham areas, left Cineworld at 8.15pm on Thursday November 20 and has not been seen since.

She is described as around 5'2" with shoulder length, mousy brown straight hair and of slim build.

Lili was wearing a black donkey-style jacket with gold fastenings, faded blue jeans and black UGG boots when she left the cinema.

 
4th March 2015


Lili Munteanu: Concerns grow for missing Bala teenager


            12:00, 5 MARCH 2015
            BY DANIEL BISSETT

North Wales Police have launched an appeal to trace the 15-year-old
 
She is described as being between 5ft 2in and 5ft 3in tall with shoulder length brown hair.

Lili is of slim build and was last seen wearing a black strapped top, grey jumper, blue jeans and black high heels.

Sergeant Steve Williams, from North Wales Police, said: “We would be grateful if any member of the public has any knowledge of Lili’s movements since her last sighting in Bala at around 5:30pm yesterday or who may know of her current whereabouts to get in touch.”

“Lili is known to use the rail network and she may have travelled through the North Wales, North West and Midlands area using public transport. She has links to the Bala, Birmingham, South Yorkshire areas.”

 
16th April 2015


Police are looking for information about missing Lili Munteanu


By [url=http://www.lincolnshireecho.co.uk/people/Lincolnshire Echo/profile.html]Lincolnshire Echo[/url]  |  Posted: April 18, 2015
 
Lili Munteanu has gone missing from Coningsby. She is originally from Romania and had been living in foster care in the townMissing People - and Missingkids, a CEOPS site, posting details of non existent person - Page 3 0clip_image002.

She has family links in the Birmingham area.

Lili is of petite build, with an olive complexion. She is 4' 8" tall and has long light auburn curly hair.

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Lili was last seen in Coningsby on Thursday afternoon.
 

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Police concerned for missing Lincolnshire teenager Lili Munteanu who has family living in Luton


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Lili Munteanu was first reported missing from the Coningsby area of Lincolnshire on April 16.

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Post by jeanmonroe 24.06.15 14:15

"We'd like to help in the search for xxxxx and have media opportunities"

Probably a 'mis-print'

should have been,

"We'd like to help in the search for xxxxx and have Madeleine and Kate McCann media 'opportunities'
--------------------------------

WHEN will MP 'get it'?

NO MATTER WHAT MP 'DO' TO PROMOTE THE, SELF CONFESSED. NEGLIGENT 'MOTHER'.

NOBODY likes their 'ambassador' Kate McCann.

And why would they?

This, self confessed, negligent, woman, diliberately and consciously, left her THREE children, out of her sight, for one and a half HOURS, to 'socialise' with her 'friends'!

'resulting' in one of her, three, children 'disappearing'!

Kate McCann, an "ambassador' for MP?

More like, Kate McCann, an 'Embarrassador' to real 'missing' people's families, and to millions of UK 'mums' who do put their kids, before themselves, protecting them, with their 'lives', AT ALL TIMES AND AT ANY COST, to themselves.!

K McCann IS, what OG, IS, to a high profile, 4 years, 'missing' child, 'investigation'........'a fcuking EMBARRASSMENT'

all, mo, obviously.

(and an awful lot of currently 'serving' MET police officers)
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Post by worriedmum 24.06.15 15:54

jeanmonroe   ''Embarrassador'' spit coffee
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Post by PeterMac 24.06.15 15:59

Brilliant. Someone tweet it, and Facebook it.
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Post by plebgate 24.06.15 18:43

worriedmum wrote:jeanmonroe   ''Embarrassador'' spit coffee
I bet the MSM wont be printing that quote any time soon.   ha ha ha.
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Post by sharonl 24.06.15 19:44

PeterMac wrote:http://uk.missingkids.com/missing/
then sort by age and you get
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Seems they are having problems !

I hate to ask this question yet again but, are theses photographs genuine?

The faces on the first two seem somewhat distorted.  There is also a colour imbalance on the right side of the face, below the eye of the second one.

Maybe its just my imagine or the PC
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Post by Joannep43 24.06.15 20:15

@ Doug D seems like she is a persistent runaway.I never realised a young person could be fostered out all over the country like this.
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Post by Lance De Boils 24.06.15 20:17

lj wrote:
Lance De Boils wrote:
PeterMac wrote:
Lance De Boils wrote:There was, (a few months ago?) a child reported missing from London. A black girl of about 12 yrs old. Very unusual name. I googled, and found that the same girl had also been reported missing 3 years earlier in the US. I did point it out to the press that was advertising it (Or someone who was advertising the disappearance.) Don't know whatever happened about that. Wish I could remember the name now. Maybe it'll come back to me.

Try hard, or go to google or Way back  . . .  !
The whole thing about 250,000 Missing children per year is clearly an enormous LIE.
Many unscrupulous people are making entire careers out of repeating this LIE.
But at last, for which many thanks to the McCanns, it has been exposed as a LIE

It may be one of their abiding legacies that they destroy

Charities which pretend to look for Missing Children
The entire 'Missing people' empire
The whole 'abduction' industry
PR firms
Private detective firms which pretend to look for Missing Children
Libel law as applied in England and Portugal


If they manage to do all that, then Honours and congratulations would not be out of place.


http://www.itv.com/news/london/update/2014-02-21/thirteen-year-old-teenager-missing-from-wandsworth/
http://nixle.com/alert/5103564/

If these were 2 different girls (who looked very similar from pictures I saw back then) - then it's a hell of a coincidence.  Least, that's what I thought at the time.

Did you see a photo on the US site?

I did see a pic - not sure it was on that 'official' site - I might have googled and found one of her - I think from a local club or something. All I remember is that the ages were right, and although I couldn't be sure about appearance - whether they were the same or not - they certainly looked similar. I don't think I saw a good enough pic of the US one. Wish my memory was better! If I get time (ie, can be bothered!) I might look again. I've changed computer since then, so much stuff is on my old machine.
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Post by Lance De Boils 24.06.15 20:26

Oh, and in case anyone missed it before, make a point of reading the thread about Jo Youle and her connections to PDL.
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Post by jeanmonroe 24.06.15 20:44

Lance De Boils wrote:Oh, and in case anyone missed it before, make a point of reading the thread about Jo Youle and her connections to PDL.

Thx to Lance De Boils.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8598-youle-chief-exec-missing-people-murats-hawkes

And NOW Jo Youle is CEO of Missing People Charity!

The same Jo Youle that 'donated' £10 to GM's 'triathlon' Missing People Charity 'fund raising', and promptly got given 'back' the 'same' £10, FROM GM, as a 'donation' from him, to Missing People Charity.

Is she the one whose 'pay' went up from £60-70,000pa TO £70-80,000pa?

And her 'mate' KM is an 'embarrassador' at MP.

What a small 'cosy' world it is, innit?
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Post by Doug D 24.06.15 21:29

SharonL,
 
Aamina Khan
 
Sept 2011 ‘abducted’ by mother.
 
‘She is an intelligent and happy go lucky child and loved by everyone.
Aamina Khan was born in the UK and has only lived in the UK until she was abducted by Humma Fazal Karim Dar, with the help of others. The abduction was a selfish act, spiteful and merely to cause harm and hurt to Aamina’s father, Safraz Khan and his family members. The mother is a qualified doctor and has had her GMC medical registration suspended as a result of her unlawful action. I have not seen my beloved daughter for 9 months and I will not stop searching for her and I please ask everyone to help in the search for Aamina Khan and if you suspect anything or have seen my daughter please report it to your local Law Enforcement, police or please see the contact details on this website. The UK and Pakistani police are currently searching for Aamina, however she has not been found.’
 
So the photo must be an ‘age-progression’ thing.


'The abduction was a selfish act, spiteful and merely to cause harm and hurt to Aamina’s father' - Really??????



Nothing to do with the mum wanting to bring up her own daughter then. Bit like Lady whatsername in reverse then, where the father took the child.
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Post by PeterMac 24.06.15 22:28

Doug D wrote:SharonL,
Aamina Khan
 
Sept 2011 ‘abducted’ by mother.
‘She is an intelligent and happy go lucky child and loved by everyone.
Aamina Khan was born in the UK and has only lived in the UK until she was abducted by Humma Fazal Karim Dar, with the help of others. The abduction was a selfish act, spiteful and merely to cause harm and hurt to Aamina’s father, Safraz Khan and his family members. The mother is a qualified doctor and has had her GMC medical registration suspended as a result of her unlawful action. I have not seen my beloved daughter for 9 months and I will not stop searching for her and I please ask everyone to help in the search for Aamina Khan and if you suspect anything or have seen my daughter please report it to your local Law Enforcement, police or please see the contact details on this website. The UK and Pakistani police are currently searching for Aamina, however she has not been found.’
 
So the photo must be an ‘age-progression’ thing.

'The abduction was a selfish act, spiteful and merely to cause harm and hurt to Aamina’s father' - Really??????
Nothing to do with the mum wanting to bring up her own daughter then. Bit like Lady whatsername in reverse then, where the father took the child.

EXACTLY
The important thing is "WHO GETS TO THE CHARITY / PRESS / MITCHELL / CARTER-RUCK FIRST with enough MONEY  ?"

It is the only consistent theme through everything we have looked at over the last 8 years.
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Post by jeanmonroe 25.06.15 10:54

RE: My 'last post'

There was only ONE 'tenner' but TWO 'people' got the 'kudos'! (and the 'all important', resultant, 'publicity', in UK Madia)

JY (CEO of MP) for 'donating' to GM, "oh, what a marvellous act of generosity from HER"

GM for 're-donating' JY's 'tenner' BACK to her at MP, ('money 'raised') "oh, what a marvellous act of generosity from HIM"

So, ONE (charity) 'tenner', TWO 'people' getting erm, 'praise'!
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Post by littlepixie 25.06.15 15:26

I posted here about a lad that Missing People say is missing from the Stockport area. No one in Stockport knows anything about it. 

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11176-mother-of-april-jones-can-t-bear-to-read-book-they-have-written#306810
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Post by littlepixie 25.06.15 15:38

PeterMac wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:
Joannep43 wrote:But in all seriousness this may well  be a vulnerable young girl missing ,surely the date when she went missing should be the same throughout police forces at the very least.Im lost for words with this  ,whats going on? @ PeterMac lol.

Maybe she goes missing, is found or returns of her own accord, then goes again?

You may be right.
Date        Age Place    
23/9/14 14 Cheadle
20/11/14 15 Llandudno
24/11/14 found
4/3/15 15 Bala, Wales
16/4/15 15 Coningsby, Lincs
16/4/15 15 Birmingham
16/4/15 15 North east

So does this girl account for 6 cases of missing child ?
She is clearly in care, so the guardians (Coningsby) have a legal duty to report as soon as she is overdue, even by a few minutes.
It was the bane of our lives when we had three children's homes on my patch in Nottingham.
Often the child would come back whilst the forms were being filled in by the PC
I have had one that was missing 11 times in 8 months. They were not really missing, just sofa surfing at their mates. Drove the Police mad. I am still getting midnight visits from the Police and the person no longer lives here!
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Post by lj 25.06.15 16:17

jeanmonroe wrote:RE: My 'last post'

There was only ONE 'tenner' but TWO 'people' got the 'kudos'! (and the 'all important', resultant, 'publicity', in UK Madia)

JY (CEO of MP) for 'donating' to GM, "oh, what a marvellous act of generosity from HER"

GM for 're-donating' JY's 'tenner' BACK to her at MP, ('money 'raised') "oh, what a marvellous act of generosity from HIM"

So, ONE (charity) 'tenner', TWO 'people' getting erm, 'praise'!
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Post by Adrian5x5 02.07.15 11:44

I feel somewhat responsible for this thread! I first raised the issue , on Twitter, as early as May 21st of this year using the Twitter ID @adrian5x5. Please feel free to explore my T/L!

I am currently trying to establish exactly when Ricardo Firmino was 'Found' with little success. Whatever the answer to this question is it will obviously raise more questions. Given the lack of publicity surrounding Ricardo's case the only logical explanation is that he was found relatively quickly ie., within 24 hours. Why then have MP been advertising his case for approximately six months?

I would suggest that anyone who cares would 'Download a poster' and take note of the wording at the bottom.... "To help bring 'xxxxxx' to safety text 'hope' to 70707 to donate £3"

If "xxxxxx" is not actually missing, is this not fraud? I was able to download this poster as late as June 8th of this year, despite having been personally advised by a member of CEOP that Ricardo had been found at least by May 27th.

Can anyone here advise me how to proceed with an FOI to discover when Ricardo was located?

Thanks
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Post by jeanmonroe 02.07.15 16:56

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alison-joyner-missing-woman-found-5989458

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Missing People
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Pl RT 48yo Alison Joyner missing from #tamworth since 20/05. Call free on 116000 http://ow.ly/DtmFh   #GMBSearch
6:15 AM - 3 Nov 2014

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OOOPPPPSS!

The only 'missing' person, on Missing People website, that DIDN'T want to be 'FOUND'!

News
UK News
Missing persons

Alison Joyner missing: Woman found safe after 14 months charged with fraud

15:25, 2 July 2015
By Nick McCarthy

The 49-year-old from Staffordshire, who was found living in Cornwall, has been charged by police and remanded into custody

Facing Charges: Alison Joyner has been found safe and well - and was immediately arrested

A mum who turned up safe and well hundreds of miles from home after going missing for more than a year has been charged with fraud offences and remanded in custody.

Alison Joyner, from Tamworth, disappeared in May 2014 and was finally found last week living in Cornwall.

Her family made several desperate appeals for her safe return after she was last seen by her daughter, who dropped her off at Sutton Coldfield railway station.

The 49-year-old, who has bipolar and suffers from mild Multiple Sclerosis, told her family that she was making an annual visit to former work colleagues in Exeter, Devon.

The mum featured on the BBC Crimewatch programme last month when it was revealed she was wanted by police in connection with fraud offences totalling more than £500,000.

When she was found she was arrested, charged and appeared in court on fraud offences, reports the Birmingham Mail.
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Post by Garrincha 02.07.15 20:07

Well spotted!
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Post by PeterMac 02.07.15 22:36

Well we Know know that Madeleine is in a "Hellish Lair in the lawless Hinterlands within 10 miles of Praia Da Luz"
because Mitchell and the other idiot told us so and have never reneged on, or corrected what they said.
SO why is this any different . . . ?
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Post by jeanmonroe 03.07.15 8:39

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33356304

In February, Miles Goslett, a freelance journalist, also reported the case of an elderly donor who sold her house in order to donate to the charity, but was not given details about how the money was spent, and ended up complaining to the Charities Commission about it.

Mr Goslett wrote: "What is perhaps most bizarre about this tale is that [the donor] has no idea what has become of her money. The charity has never informed her how it has been or will be used."
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Well we 'know' where the first £1.72 MILLION, in 'donations', every year, to MP 'charity' DO 'go'!

To PAY 'salaries, pensions, other 'benefits', STAFF 'costs' etc.,' before a SINGLE PENNY is 'spent' on 'locating/finding' a single 'missing' person!
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http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9437932/the-trouble-with-kids-company/

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So much for hurt feelings — more interesting are Joan’s other misgivings. After the Oldie spat, by way of making up, Joan spent a week volunteering at Kids Company, to see how donations were spent.

One of its therapy centres she attended was the Morgan Stanley Heart Yard in south London. It was bought with £1.6 million given by the London arm of the American investment bank after which it was named and opened by Joanna Lumley. What struck Mrs Woolard was the absence of children. She says: ‘Camila said that the charity is “short of money” because summer is a busy time because so many more children need to be fed and looked after during the school holidays. But I was told by staff that during the summer holidays there are fewer children to look after. I can’t square this fundamental contradiction.’

Nor, as it happens can some other former senior members of Kids Company, who claim that there are ‘exaggerations’ in the numbers of people it says it helps. In the charity’s annual reports, the numbers increased from 13,500 in 2008 to 16,500 in 2010 before jumping to an astonishing 36,000 the next year. That figure of 36,000 has been used in Kids Company literature ever since, but some ex-staff members have questioned it. In response to this, the charity stated it uses a computer system tracking all the children, young people and families with which it works, recording why money was spent on them and what outcome arose, and that the earlier figures were under-estimates.

This all sounds very professional, but it turns out it is not just children who are included in the much-touted 36,000. In an email to me the charity wrote: ‘When we refer to clients they include children, young people, young adults with special needs, carers, i.e. foster parents or parents who predominantly have mental health difficulties, and school staff.’ Strange to include parents and school staff in the number of those helped.
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NOT 'GOOD' this 'charidy' erm, 'lark' FOR 'donators', is it?

Missing People need 'looking into'!
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As DONATOR 'Joan' said 'I can’t square this fundamental contradiction.’

Well, neither can I.

KM was 'made' an 'embarrassador' at Missing People 'charidy'.

KM is the person that diliberately and consciously left her three kids, at total 'risk of harm' whilst she socialised with friends, out of sight of her kids.

KM has admitted to 'jeopardising' the investigation into her 'missing' kid.

KM has said she was glad 'the investigation', into her 'missing' kid, was 'closed', and it wouldn't matter, to her, if it were 'ever re-opened'.

K&GM have said 'there's no evidence to IMPLICATE us'....... in their child's 'death'

But Missing People 'charidy' still 'want' people to 'look for/search' for K&GM's 'missing' child!

'something' KM did not personally 'do' herself, the night her child 'went missing'

There's something WRONG, in the 'State of Charity'!


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