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Post by willowthewisp on 15.11.16 12:14

Hi Verdi,But where the inebriated baboons acting on orders from above,Not to properly investigate,remains unanswered,as you know it was a long time ago and the witnesses memories of the events fade?
This is especially so if you have been abused,that you were in a confused state and when the"Carers showed affection"to the children,they misread the situation and the signals given by the"Carers"as this may have been the first time,the children had been shown affection,due to the Home Environment they had been rescued from?
It has come to light that,"Stephen,Nick" had chosen to "Familiarise"the Home of Lord Brammell,so that when he gave descriptions to the Investigating Officers of the Home of the abuser,this could correlate factual to the place the abuse was supposed to have taken place at?
What remains to be seen is if,the CPS proceed to Prosecute Nick for Perverting the Course of Justice?
Some people say this is very unlikely,as any trail would allude to how "Operation Midland" had conducted themselves and would have to wait for the IPCC Investigation to have run its course as to the conduct of the Metropolitan Police Officers involved in that original case?
What has not come out of the Lord Brammell and Harvey Proctor investigation is was,"Nick"the main/sole Witness to abuse of children in that investigation or were there other witnesses to child abuse allegations?

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Post by willowthewisp on 01.02.17 16:34

So the last"Throw of the Dice"is that spotters were used to identify Madeleine McCann from Beach and poolside pictures in the Abduction Remit?
The spotters must have been determined that only this little girl identified was to be the chosen child to  be abducted,as according to the parents,"They only had a brief moment"to undertake that activity and leave no traceable scenes of crime evidence(Jemmied Shutters),which DCS Mr Andy Redwood had broadened from 21.10 until 22.00 hrs,apartment 5a Ocean Club 3 May 2007 Crime Watch October 2013?
The Metropolitan Police Service were alerted by Interpol in 2008 about a group of people thought at the time to be involved in "Child Abduction"related to Marc Dutroux affair,gang from the 1990's?
The Metropolitan Police Service investigation was proved inconclusive on that theory,yet Ten years later,they are thought to be re-investigating that theory in regard to Madeleine's disappearance-Abduction,Operation Grange,funding ends in April 2017 and now we have the decision on the Portugal Supreme Court Defamation trail,but of course they are not linked in any way,just a coincidence?
Just as a certain close friend of the family was handed a"Dossier"about trolling and is now a retiring Commander of the Metropolitan Police Force has reluctantly been unable to solve the Madeleine McCann disappearance,just another coincidence, eh Sir Bernard,RIP Brenda Leyland?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 01.02.17 18:59

BOLLOCKS!

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Post by Get'emGonçalo on 01.02.17 19:10

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Post by sandancer on 01.02.17 21:34

Spotters 

Trafficers 

Hey look people - 

FAKE NEWS !!! spin spit coffee aaagh beware

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Post by ChippyM on 05.02.17 15:38

'The last throw of the dice' being traffickers is such a load of dung.

Neither the PJ or SY have said they are investigating that. No direct statements or quotes from them what so ever! They are said to be working together, the met. 'WAS SAID to be briefing whitehall' about traffickers.

In 2014 a mother said she had contacted Op. Grange about some people she saw and thought might be child traffickers, so in 2016 that is turned into SY's last throw of the dice.

 It must be true because an unidentified source said it was  nah

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Post by BlueBag on 16.02.17 11:15

Bollocks.

No longer any doubt.

From The Sun:

The couple are considering two pooled interviews in Britain, one for print through the country’s national agency Press Association and one for broadcasters.
Both are being organised through Scotland Yard, Mitchell explained. He said: “There will be no fee.”

Absolute 100% certified bollocks.

This has to be something to do with protecting the establishment.

Has to be.
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Post by Verdi on 16.02.17 12:42

Ludicrous springs to mind!

Ever had the feeling you're being taken for a mug?

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Post by Lands_end on 16.02.17 14:39

When they frist televised this on crimewatch (?) a few yaers back, remember the one where the revelation moment was discovery of the fact that Tannerman had been located and even gave his chinos to the investigating team. I telephoned the hotline number and advised to operator that surely now the whole world must acknowledge that this group are nothing but a pack of lying bastrads. This is the man that Jane tanner saw and chose not to say anything about it until the next day. What complete tripe, nobody is going to believe that one so decision has to be bollocks.

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Post by willowthewisp on 17.02.17 15:11

How or Why are Police Officers Operating on Operation Grange allowing Clarence Mitchell to comment on"Briefing statements"in relation to the tenth Anniversary of missing Madeleine McCann,remit Abduction,where this person has connections to the Parents and is a paid Consultant,close cohort to Two former Prime Ministers and connections to MI 5,the s**m,Andy Coulson and Rebekah Brooks and the Freud Family?

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Post by Verdi on 04.04.17 15:35

I was just looking to see if the Met Police has recently updated the status of Operation Grange - it hasn't.     I was however reminded of their last update published on 28th October 2015, for anyone that still thinks Operation Grange are the real deal (remember, this is included in the news release)..
 
Mr and Mrs McCann said: "We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years. The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt.

"We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in Praia da Luz leading up to Madeleine's abduction in 2007.

"Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced.

"We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.

"Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry. "

The remaining Operation Grange officers will be deployed to other enquiries within Specialist Crime and Operations.

http://news.met.police.uk/news/update-on-the-investigation-into-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-135459

The document is worth another read, I've just plucked that bit because it pretty well confirms that the parents McCann are not under suspicion - at least not through the eyes of Operation Grange.  Not pasting the whole document because the Metopolitan Police are very covetous about their public statements.

bignono 

They appear to have overlooked vital evidence..


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Post by Phoebe on 04.04.17 16:53

Grange is a £12 million coat of whitewash.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 04.04.17 17:23

Mr and Mrs McCann said: "Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine,........"
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Even I 'know' what 'happened' to Madeleine!

'Madeleine WAS abducted'..... wasn't she?

('Farter Cluck', the UK's 'most fearsome' libel lawyers, will BACK me up 'on that', won't they?)

I 'know' that, 'Madeleine WAS abducted', because the McCan'ts have TOLD me 'THAT'!

NO 'respectable parent' of a really 'abducted' child, would ever dream of 'lying' about 'that'....would they?

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Post by Verdi on 04.04.17 20:21

@Phoebe wrote:Grange is a £12 million coat of whitewash.
Trouble is whitewash has a nasty habit of washing off in continuous very heavy rain winkwink .

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Post by Verdi on 10.06.17 13:41

Over six years ago in May 2011, whilst the McCanns were frantically promoting Kate McCann's autobiographical novel, Gerry McCann became very vocal about the absence of any pro-activity in the search for their missing daughter Madeleine.  During an interview, he robustly proposed that the UK authorities take on the function of coordinating and reviewing all documentation relating to Madeleine's disappearance.  This was the result..

Letter from Gerry and Kate McCann to David Cameron, Prime Minister

Dear Prime Minister,

As a devoted father and family man, you know the importance of children. Our beloved eldest child, Madeleine, was abducted from Praia da Luz, Portugal, four years ago. Since then, we have devoted all our energies to ensuring her safe return.

Today we are asking you - and the British and Portuguese governments - to help find Madeleine and bring her back to her loving family.

We live in hope that Madeleine will be found alive and returned to us. One call might be all that is needed to lead to Madeleine and her abductor.

To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

 It is not right that a young vulnerable British citizen has essentially been given up on. This remains an unsolved case of a missing child. Children are our most precious gift.

Please don't give up on Madeleine.

Kate & Gerry McCann

David Cameron's reply to Gerry and Kate McCann

Dear Kate and Gerry,

Thank you for your heartfelt and moving letter. Your ordeal is every parent's worst nightmare and my heart goes out to you both. I simply cannot imagine the pain you must have experienced over these four agonising years, and the strength and determination you have both shown throughout is remarkable.

I am acutely aware of the frustration you must feel as more time goes by and yet no news is forthcoming. We discussed this when we met, but I realise that a further eighteen months have gone by since then. That you have been so courageous over all this time, and have not given up, speaks volumes.

I have asked the Home Secretary to look into what more the Government could do to help Madeleine. She will be writing to you today, setting out new action involving the Metropolitan Police Service which we hope will help boost efforts in the search for Madeleine. I sincerely hope this fresh approach will provide the investigation with the new momentum that it needs.

I know that everyone hopes and prays for a successful outcome, and our thoughts remain with you and your family. We will, of course, stay in close touch with you throughout.

Yours,

David

Well Messrs McCann you've had your day, you got what you wanted - a full blown review/investigation into the mystery of your child's disappearance by the world's finest, Scotland Yard in the form of Operation Grange.  Over six years of painstaking work and still working quietly in the background - at the tax payers expense, not pro-bono like some of your other adherents.  So what's next Mr and Mrs McCann?

What a pity 10 Downing Street doesn't see fit to respond to communications sent to the Prime Minister in the quest of justice for little Madeleine McCann in the same way - a personal letter signed 'Yours, David' (in present day 'Yours Theresa' - or even just a respectful answer!

'David Cameron's spokeswoman said: "The prime minister met Kate and Gerry McCann while he was leader of the opposition, and he has followed their plight very closely.'

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/may/12/madeleine-mccann-parents-pm-review

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Post by RosieandSam on 10.06.17 21:19

To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

I had forgotten that statement @Verdi.  I'll write to my MP regarding Operation Grange and Colin Sutton's recent revelations.

My Tory MP is a 'man of the people' and he has never failed to get a response for me regarding CSA or Madeleine. 

I'll let Admin know if I get a response.
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Post by Verdi on 10.06.17 22:13

@RosieandSam wrote:
To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

I had forgotten that statement @Verdi.  I'll write to my MP regarding Operation Grange and Colin Sutton's recent revelations.

My Tory MP is a 'man of the people' and he has never failed to get a response for me regarding CSA or Madeleine. 

I'll let Admin know if I get a response.
It's a corker isn't it?

What a relief to hear that at least someone in the UK establishment is taking Madeleine McCann's disappearance seriously - or at least taking your concerns seriously.  I think I can say without fear of contradiction, Admin will welcome any positive development that you, or anyone else, can generate - as will all genuine members of CMoMM.

Your indefatigable diligence is invaluable - I applaud and thank you.

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Post by Verdi on 10.06.17 23:34

I've seen it said so many times in the past that the UK governments intervention in the case was most likely a public relations exercise, to enhance their image as a caring government (never agreed with it myself) and that they very swiftly backed off once the McCanns were made arguidos.

Well, the correspondence interchange between the former Prime Minister, David Cameron and the McCanns was in May 2011 - that's four years after Madeleine's disappearance was reported.  Doesn't sound much like they ditched the McCanns to me, indeed the Home Secretary in March 2017 approved a further injection of cash to Operation Grange to continue their investigation until late summer.
 
Now let me see, that's - Tony Blair, Cherie Blair, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Theresa May and Amber Rudd - all at some stage between May 2007 and March 2017 directly involved with the parents McCann and the investigation into Madeleine's disappearance.

Bang goes another theory!

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Post by BlueBag on 11.06.17 7:51

Yes, this is an establishment thing. The sheer scale of the protection they have had is staggering.

What on earth is it really about?
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Post by BlueBag on 11.06.17 7:55

To this end, we are seeking a joint INDEPENDENT, TRANSPARENT and COMPREHENSIVE review of ALL information held in relation to Madeleine's disappearance. Thus far, there has been NO formal review of the material held by the police authorities - which is routine practice in most major unsolved crimes.

"ALL".

David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well.
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Post by Verdi on 11.06.17 14:06

@BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?
I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!

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Post by willowthewisp on 11.06.17 14:27

@Verdi wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?
I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!
Ask the Dogs Sandra?
Hi Verdi,I do not know if you have watched the BBC programme,"The Met" and what these Police Officers face on any day of the week?
There is No doubt that these Police Officers are putting themselves in dangerous violent situations in trying to,"Serve And Protect"the public.
Seriously,what i cannot grasp or comprehend,is to see these same Police Officers,associated to what Assistant Metropolitan Police Commander Mark Rowley has stated on public Record in relation to Operation Grange?
There is only One Metropolitan Police Service,serving the London Boroughs isn't there,Not an A or B team?

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Post by Verdi on 12.06.17 0:13

@willowthewisp wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@BlueBag wrote:What on earth is it really about?
I think the answer to that perhaps lies in your follow-up post..

"David Payne has some information that needs reviewing as well."

Whilst on the subject - so do Eddie and Keela!
Ask the Dogs Sandra?
Hi Verdi,I do not know if you have watched the BBC programme,"The Met" and what these Police Officers face on any day of the week?
There is No doubt that these Police Officers are putting themselves in dangerous violent situations in trying to,"Serve And Protect"the public.
Seriously,what i cannot grasp or comprehend,is to see these same Police Officers,associated to what Assistant Metropolitan Police Commander Mark Rowley has stated on public Record in relation to Operation Grange?
There is only One Metropolitan Police Service,serving the London Boroughs isn't there,Not an A or B team?
No willowthewisp, I haven't seen the BBC programme but I am nonetheless aware of the trials and tribulations faced every day by London coppers.  I used to work in London so I'm no stranger to the problems they face.

Not only do they have to contend with the dangers of street life but they have to defend their position when faced with internal inquiries because some criminal makes false accusations, or a criminals family member makes an official complaint - just like the position Goncalo Amaral found himself in. 

They can't win!  The police force should be recognised and applauded for their dedication, not victimised.  They are not all corrupt.

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Post by BlueBag on 12.06.17 7:10

They are not all corrupt.

True.

But most of them do as they are told and no lip.

They also have careers to think about and pensions at the end of it.
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Post by Verdi on 13.06.17 0:45

"What we sought to do is try and draw everything back to zero," said Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood. "Try and take everything back to the beginning and re-analyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing."

Selective analysis is a very bias approach to policing DCI Andy Redwood..

15 Processos Vol XV Page 4024

Fax (in English)

From: Ricardo Paiva

Sent: 16th January 2008, 17.52

To: Prior Stuart

Subject: Madeleine McCann's Investigation

Hello, Stuart,

After a meeting with the Director, Mr Paolo Rebelo where this matter was discussed, we kindly request to your police, the following procedures:

- re-interview PAUL GORDON and show him GAIL COOPER'S sketch;

- re-interview GAIL COOPER, regarding the following points:

- if she formally confirms her statement given to Brian Kennedy?


- If she still confirms her previous statement given to the police back in the 21st of May, she hasn't referred that she has seen the same man two days later at the beach near the RESTAURANT PARAISO, standing near the Mark Warner's children?

- interview JOHN COOPER (GAIL'S husband) in order to confirm her statement, specially regarding the fact that they had seen the same man two days later at the beach near the RESTAURANT PARAISO standing near the Mark Warner's children.

- Interview LINDA SIMMS and show him GAIL COOPER'S sketch;

- Interview ALFRED SCHUURMANS and ask him if his friend, who's 12 years old daughter had spotted on several occasions ?a strange man lurking around the apartments? is GORDON SILLENCE and the daughter TASMIN MILBURN SILLENCE:

Best regards

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