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Post by Verdi on 27.05.15 23:15

@LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)
Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you.  I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal.  Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker,  I'm more concerned about personal information being given over.  I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure.  Can you please explain why this is necessary?  I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

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Post by LeanneBaulch on 28.05.15 7:36

@Verdi wrote:
@LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)
Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you.  I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal.  Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker,  I'm more concerned about personal information being given over.  I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure.  Can you please explain why this is necessary?  I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

Hi Verdi, 

So I asked GoFundMe the question regarding payments, you can do the same too. Here is the question, and reply.

Is it safe to donate online?
It sure is! GoFundMe uses the same secure & encrypted payments technology as your bank. If you're uncertain about giving to a certain campaign, you can easily contact the Campaign Organizer for more information.

I don't see any bank details, but I do see the email provided. You can put any old email in, the only reason it asks you for your email, is so that the GoFundMe organiser can send updates and thank donors. My interest isn't who is who, although I do not expect you to take my word for it, so if you do wish to donate, just pop in any email, real or not, it doesn't make any difference to the payment.

GoFundMe has been aroun for many years, and it has a very good reputation (which is why I chose that particular crowd funding site). The site is very safe and secure, I have never heard of any credit card fraud taking place due to GoFundMe. I don't think it would do as well if that were the case.

£25K was just a target, I didn't expect it to do as well as it has. I knew people would donate, and support Goncalo, but it was merely for those that don't use PayPal, or wanted to leave a message of support with their donations. The fund will continue to receive donations past the £25K mark, as Goncalo's legal cost will amount to much more unfortunately.

I hope I have answered your questions, if not, give me a nudge. It's early so I am a bit glazed eyed still. Oh and sorry for the delay xxx
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Post by Verdi on 28.05.15 11:27

@LeanneBaulch wrote:
@Verdi wrote:
@LeanneBaulch wrote:Thank you Joss :)
Leanne, your assistance please as you've taken the trouble to register in order to answer queries, small delay in asking but I lost the run of you.  I've had a look at your GoFundMe link but I'm hesitant to proceed without clarification of a small point.

This is not a winge about money, after all on the whole only small sums are being donated so that aspect is no big deal.  Having been the victim of online credit card fraud and my true identity revealed by some cyber stalker,  I'm more concerned about personal information being given over.  I've never made a payment online before that doesn't claim to be handled by a totally independent secure payment site, nor have I ever been asked to reveal my name and email address outside of the secure payment procedure.  Can you please explain why this is necessary?  I'm probably being a tw@ but safety first and all that!

Also, although only a matter of interest rather than any concern about making a donation, how/why was the sum of £25K determined?

Hi Verdi, 

So I asked GoFundMe the question regarding payments, you can do the same too. Here is the question, and reply.

Is it safe to donate online?
It sure is! GoFundMe uses the same secure & encrypted payments technology as your bank. If you're uncertain about giving to a certain campaign, you can easily contact the Campaign Organizer for more information.

I don't see any bank details, but I do see the email provided. You can put any old email in, the only reason it asks you for your email, is so that the GoFundMe organiser can send updates and thank donors. My interest isn't who is who, although I do not expect you to take my word for it, so if you do wish to donate, just pop in any email, real or not, it doesn't make any difference to the payment.

GoFundMe has been aroun for many years, and it has a very good reputation (which is why I chose that particular crowd funding site). The site is very safe and secure, I have never heard of any credit card fraud taking place due to GoFundMe. I don't think it would do as well if that were the case.

£25K was just a target, I didn't expect it to do as well as it has. I knew people would donate, and support Goncalo, but it was merely for those that don't use PayPal, or wanted to leave a message of support with their donations. The fund will continue to receive donations past the £25K mark, as Goncalo's legal cost will amount to much more unfortunately.

I hope I have answered your questions, if not, give me a nudge. It's early so I am a bit glazed eyed still. Oh and sorry for the delay xxx
Thank you Leanne for such a detailed reply, it's certainly eased my mind.  To be honest I'd never even heard of GoFundMe before, what an ignoramus eh?

I wish you well and further success with your excellent venture.  Never know my little query might also encourage other sceptics to donate - we can at least hope!

Have a good day.  smilie

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Post by LeanneBaulch on 28.05.15 15:32

You too :) x
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Post by lj on 28.05.15 15:57

Hi Leanne,

Thank you for all your effort in this.
First a general remark: there are a lot of people who cannot give a big amount at once, but who intend to give smaller amount frequently. This would be an extra reason to keep your gofundme site open, even after the goal is reached. 25,000 is a nice amount, but considering the legal work in the past, and the fact that I suspect the McCanns are not done yet it might be helpful.

Another question many have: do you get more personal information, like the real name, other than the email address?

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Post by Richard IV on 30.05.15 10:46

Hi Leanne
Have the UK media shown any interest in the immense support for Goncalo ?
Do you think they may approach you for an interview?
If so, be very careful because no doubt they will twist anything you say into trash, as they do with anyone who doubts the McCanns and supports GA.
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Post by LeanneBaulch on 30.05.15 10:54

Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.
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Post by Richard IV on 30.05.15 11:31

Thanks Leanne and good luck  roses
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Post by Amy Dean on 30.05.15 12:53

There has been a donation of £1,000.00 from a group of police officers.

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Post by Jill Havern on 30.05.15 13:15

@LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.  

Just to clarify for lj - you can use a fake name and a fake email address. Or you can just post as anonymous. You don't have to use your real name or your real email address.

Thank you once again, Leanne, for providing this Fundraising site, it's absolutely fantastic - especially for those of us who don't have a PayPal account. You're a star, Leanne roses


And this is for the "very large group of Brit police officers" who have just donated £1,000 - I hope MPS stands for Metropolitan Police whistling

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Post by aiyoyo on 30.05.15 13:30

To LB,

If you ever decide to accept interview of selected journalist/s @ your preferred choice of newspapers when the target is reached, may I  suggest that you make a point to -

(1) highlight collated commentaries of those ones that made the most impact.
  The ones from MPS (recent), PM (magistrate related background) and some other ones that showed people are appalled at vindictive McCanns destroying a SIO just for doing his job.   
(2) Cite the passage in Kate's book that states that she wants him to feel harm and fear. 
(3) State also that their vindictiveness is unparalleled in UK and Portugal civil case history, in that not only they want him destroyed and feel fear, they also set out to strangle him of finance means to hire legal defence against their suit by having his assets frozen from the get go.  
(4) That this is very appalling behavior from a pair that had stated in public they were prepared to forgive the abductor.  
(5) Another point to be stated is that Gerry had said at the Leveson Inquiry that he is not against people purporting theories, so his suit against a Police Officer for having a theory is in total contradiction to his statement.

Hence the reasons (on top of disbelieving the Mcs abduction theory) why many people from all over the globe that follow the McCanns case ( with the bulk coming from UK), are willing to support Dr. Amaral Legal Fund.

ETA:  One more thing that I forgot earlier. Add in Richard Hall's videos to refer journalists to the Mcs dodgy private detectives.  And the commentary that they spent a lot of money hiring dodgy private detectives for the search, but the best lawyers for their litigation suits.
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Post by aiyoyo on 30.05.15 13:33

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.  

Just to clarify for lj - you can use a fake name and a fake email address. Or you can just post as anonymous. You don't have to use your real name or your real email address.

Thank you once again, Leanne, for providing this Fundraising site, it's absolutely fantastic - especially for those of us who don't have a PayPal account. You're a star, Leanne roses


And this is for the "very large group of Brit police officers" who have just donated £1,000 - I hope MPS stands for Metropolitan Police whistling

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Since the donation is from a group of police officers, likely MPS (standing for Metropolitan Police Service) is a deliberately choice of name from this group of donors.
Dare we hope it's from the 37 elite coppers on OG ! 38 counting DCI redwood ex-head in-charge.
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Post by Guest on 30.05.15 13:50

What a fantastic surprise when I looked in on the fund earlier. If this doesn't have the MSM tapping away furiously on their keyboards today then something is far wrong.  Well done MPS !!  clapping
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Post by aiyoyo on 30.05.15 14:58

£23,330K !  Nearly there.
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Post by lj on 30.05.15 15:25

@LeanneBaulch wrote:Lj, I only see the name and email provided with the donation, nothing else.

Richard, I have been approached by journalists, but I am being extremely cautious when it comes to British MSM. I think a couple newspapers plan on doing a story when the fund hits the target.  


Thanks Leanne!

ETA: to clarify it never stopped me from donating: over the years I have made various donations to the pjga site, and have made 3 to the go fund me site. I don't say that to look good, but I know some got the impression I did not and would not.

It would have been good to address  all these concerns from the start.

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Post by lj on 30.05.15 15:27

@Amy Dean wrote:There has been a donation of £1,000.00 from a group of police officers.

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Wow!!!


I really really hope the McCanns read this!

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Post by Guest on 30.05.15 15:36

@lj wrote:
@Amy Dean wrote:There has been a donation of £1,000.00 from a group of police officers.

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Wow!!!


I really really hope the McCanns read this!
I think it's pretty guaranteed that they will know about it by now
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Post by Guest on 30.05.15 15:53

Wow... thank you members of MPS.

An unexpected donation - what will the MSM do with this development?
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Post by lj on 30.05.15 16:01

@Ladyinred wrote:Wow... thank you members of MPS.

An unexpected donation - what will the MSM do with this development?


Ignore it.

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Post by Liz Eagles on 30.05.15 23:03

I see it's been a great day for the GA Fund and not a single T shirt, high quality wristband, bicycle ride, media monitor necessary.
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Post by notlongnow on 30.05.15 23:10

From the fund page;


To the reporter JS , remember all those years ago at the first Press conference , when the assembled press asked the Mc's how they knew Maddy had been abducted , the answer now completely re imagined was that the cuddle cat was placed high on the shelf . yes i bet most of you had forgotten all about that , The first newspaper to buy there way into the apartment i think it cost the now defunct NOTW £35k , they even questioned where the shelf was , the fact we now have in hardback a completely different account , i think the term is a holding statement .the simple fact is you don't forget something like that, as we keep seeing there accounts kept changing as more information was leaked out from the PJ . tailoring was a term used in a recent trial . I am delighted the London's finest Police are starting to make waves . it reflects badly on all police offices , and as we know from other historical cases , it always comes out in the end I am lead to believe there is also phone footage in a vault somewhere that would make interesting viewing, "swing low sweet chariot "
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Post by Guest on 30.05.15 23:44

£35k they charged !! Is that normal to charge the media an entrance fee when your child is missing possibly abducted? The last comment is very interesting if true.
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Post by Liz Eagles on 31.05.15 0:07

It's also well to remember that people on this forum contributed to the initial fund to find Madeleine only to find that their contribution (however small) hired extradition lawyers, media specialists, libel lawyers, dodgy private detectives that achieved nothing and a whole host of other bad things.
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Post by Nina on 31.05.15 0:32

aquila wrote:It's also well to remember that people on this forum contributed to the initial fund to find Madeleine only to find that their contribution (however small) hired extradition lawyers, media specialists, libel lawyers, dodgy private detectives that achieved nothing and a whole host of other bad things.
I agree with that aquila, I was one of them  sorry

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Post by Guest on 31.05.15 8:36

Oddly, for the second time running, I was unable to make a donation, my perfectly valid creditcard being blocked both times by the fund site, once last month, the other time just now. This has never happened before (in about 10 years)  Apparently the site knocked my card flat out. 

Has anyone else experienced this same phenomenon? 

BTW: what a splendid gesture from those police officers! One can almost see them passing their caps around at the station

Pity I wasn't able to make the plus 24.000 donation, such a lovely amount, but there we are. Carry on!
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