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Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

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Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by TMH on Thu May 07, 2015 8:29 pm

Does anybody know if it was just GA only that has to pay out damages to the Mc's?

What about TVI and Guerra and Paz? Why haven't we heard if they have had to pay damages too?


Sorry it's all very puzzling lol
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Re: Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by sammyc on Thu May 07, 2015 9:30 pm

Because the McCanns want to try to totally destroy and silence GA forever as he knows what is contained in the 20% of PJ Files not officially released? 

Just guessing.
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Re: Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by G-Unit on Thu May 07, 2015 9:45 pm

@TMH wrote:Does anybody know if it was just GA only that has to pay out damages to the Mc's?

What about TVI and Guerra and Paz? Why haven't we heard if they have had to pay damages too?


Sorry it's all very puzzling lol
Only Snr Amaral. He is only having to pay because a) he used confidential source material gathered during his job and b) As a retired police officer he should have still been obliged to uphold the presumption of innocence as required by all those involved in the judicial process. Had he been a private citizen he would have paid nothing.

The judge emphasised the fact that he published his book three days after the investigation was archived, so although his book used material which was in the public domain (the PJ Files) he wrote the book before the files were released, using naterial which was confidential at the time of writing.

All those involved in the judicial process are expected to uphold the presumption of innocence of suspects. Amaral's theory went against that.

The others involved will only pay if they continue to sell/distribute the book or the video after the judgement. Each time they do so, they pay 50,000 EUR, I think it was.
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Re: Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by TMH on Thu May 07, 2015 9:51 pm

@G-Unit wrote:
@TMH wrote:Does anybody know if it was just GA only that has to pay out damages to the Mc's?

What about TVI and Guerra and Paz? Why haven't we heard if they have had to pay damages too?


Sorry it's all very puzzling lol
Only Snr Amaral. He is only having to pay because a) he used confidential source material gathered during his job and b) As a retired police officer he should have still been obliged to uphold the presumption of innocence as required by all those involved in the judicial process. Had he been a private citizen he would have paid nothing.

The judge emphasised the fact that he published his book three days after the investigation was archived, so although his book used material which was in the public domain (the PJ Files) he wrote the book before the files were released, using naterial which was confidential at the time of writing.

All those involved in the judicial process are expected to uphold the presumption of innocence of suspects. Amaral's theory went against that.

The others involved will only pay if they continue to sell/distribute the book or the video after the judgement. Each time they do so, they pay 50,000 EUR, I think it was.
Many thanks for that explanation, It's a lot clearer now  thumbup
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Post by Richard IV on Thu May 07, 2015 9:57 pm

@G-Unit wrote:
@TMH wrote:Does anybody know if it was just GA only that has to pay out damages to the Mc's?

What about TVI and Guerra and Paz? Why haven't we heard if they have had to pay damages too?


Sorry it's all very puzzling lol
Only Snr Amaral. He is only having to pay because a) he used confidential source material gathered during his job and b) As a retired police officer he should have still been obliged to uphold the presumption of innocence as required by all those involved in the judicial process. Had he been a private citizen he would have paid nothing.

The judge emphasised the fact that he published his book three days after the investigation was archived, so although his book used material which was in the public domain (the PJ Files) he wrote the book before the files were released, using naterial which was confidential at the time of writing.

All those involved in the judicial process are expected to uphold the presumption of innocence of suspects. Amaral's theory went against that.

The others involved will only pay if they continue to sell/distribute the book or the video after the judgement. Each time they do so, they pay 50,000 EUR, I think it was.
That explanation is much appreciated G-Unit. It`s much clearer now.

I suppose she was able to trump the previous Supreme Court  ruling as the McCanns were citing different aspects this time round.

On another note, I see the Portugal News has been writing positive articles and there has been a lot of support from the UK, but can anyone in Portugal tell us if there has been any support for GA in the Portuguese media and/or from Portuguese citizens ?
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Post by Guest on Thu May 07, 2015 10:05 pm

As far as I can see, The Portugal News has written only one article, which I posted last week, and was a straightforward, factual account of the verdict.
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The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are "delighted" with the judge's verdict. "We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that

Post by G-Unit on Thu May 07, 2015 10:58 pm

Richard wrote:That explanation is much appreciated G-Unit. It`s much clearer now.

I suppose she was able to trump the previous Supreme Court  ruling as the McCanns were citing different aspects this time round.

On another note, I see the Portugal News has been writing positive articles and there has been a lot of support from the UK, but can anyone in Portugal tell us if there has been any support for GA in the Portuguese media and/or from Portuguese citizens ?
Interesting quote on Sky News by the McCanns, considering that the judge found that neither the children nor the search were damaged by the book. The award was for damage to the parents only;

The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, said they are "delighted" with the judge's verdict.
"We want to emphasise that the action was never about money. It has always been focused on the effects of the libels on our other children and the damage that was done to the search for Madeleine," they said in a statement.
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Re: Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by Richard IV on Thu May 07, 2015 11:11 pm

Ladyinred wrote:As far as I can see, The Portugal News has written only one article, which I posted last week, and was a straightforward, factual account of the verdict.
Sorry Ladyinred - I meant Portgual Resident.

http://portugalresident.com/brits-raise-thousands-for-maddie-cop%E2%80%99s-libel-appeal-0

It would be interesting to know if any of GA`s compatriots are backing him.
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Re: Libel Trial - Only Amaral?

Post by G-Unit on Fri May 08, 2015 12:18 am

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Post by lj on Fri May 08, 2015 1:26 pm

Only 4% agrees, 4!!

I see why Kate and Gerry did not attend any memorial. Maybe they finally get the message.

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