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Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by aiyoyo on 01.05.15 18:07

@PeterMac wrote:
@aiyoyo wrote:
* Hundreds of messages have been posted by trolls who believe, despite no evidence, that the McCanns had some involvement in the disappearance of their daughter in Portugal in 2007.
* In a letter to the campaigners, Leicestershire Police Assistant Chief Constable Roger Bannister said: "While finding that much of the material was extremely distasteful and unpleasant in nature, it was determined that none of the messages/postings constituted a prosecutable offence."
* In his bestselling book, Goncalo Amaral claimed the McCanns hid their daughter's body and faked an abduction after she died in an accident.


Intersting that the MSM are repeating, at every opportunity and on every occasion the entire set of allegations, and quotes from Senior Police Officers.
I don't think we saw that 5 years ago

Even the Lisbon Judge was repeating them categorically in her VERDICT attesting them as PROVED ! Can't get more official attestation that a Judge rubber stamping them on Court documents.

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by j.rob on 01.05.15 18:38

@Doug D wrote:Two presumably ‘fraudulently named’ donations on KM’s page, which in itself is not a particular problem as the money must have been paid by whoever posted them.
 
However the ‘gift aid’ boxes must have been ticked fraudulently, which is presumably a criminal (?) offence, unless it attaches to the real donor. Should HMRC be having a look?
 
Clearly not Hideho or Ben T. and is she not a Canadian citizen in any case?
 
 
I am sorry for hate campaign that I've orchestrated over the years. However, since Gonzo Amaral got his comeuppance I have seen the light. I hope you find Madeleine very soon and beg your forgiveness
Donation by Lizzy Hideho Taylor on 01/05/15
£50.00
+ £12.50 Gift Aid
 
 
Good luck with the bike ride Kate, sorry for the small donation but I don't get my giro until Thursday
Donation by Benjamin Thompson on 01/05/15
£2.00
+ £0.50 Gift Aid


It would appear that the McCann "trolls" supporters have it in for Hideho. Among other people of course. Gosh, reading their messages is instructive - eek! They are simply filled with venom. Who ARE these people? They sound really scary.

But it is very odd, imo, for a national newspaper to link an individual's justgiving page, surely? I can understand a link to the (appallingly dodgy) Missing charity.

What is really going on here?! 

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by j.rob on 01.05.15 20:35

They don't seem to grasp that normal, decent people support Madeleine and her family - unlike them.

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But I hope Leicestershire Police are aware that they have given these creatures the green light to abuse and harrass. 


No - normal, decent people support Madeleine but not her family who they believe lied through their teeth about what happened to her. Nice try, though!

Oh dear - Leicestershire police - call me 'Stu'. Hmmmmm

What creatures might that be exactly? The normal people who want to see justice done, maybe?

Who has been doing the abusing and harrassing I wonder?? Answers on a stamp please!

Also, a poster suggesting that people might line the route booing is hardly a 'threat' is it? 

Oh dear, oh dear. 



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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by PeterMac on 01.05.15 21:22

@j.rob wrote: Who has been doing the abusing and harrassing I wonder?? Answers on a stamp please!

Philomena
Authoress and presenter of the Dossier of death, on behalf of the McCanns

It fits perfectly

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by sharonl on 01.05.15 21:29

If your child is missing for whatever reason, surely any parent is 100% driven to find her from the second that she is discovered missing.

If Kate McCann is more driven to finding Madeleine now, how driven was she in [strike]April[strike] May 2007?

What has happened in the last 8 years to make Kate more determined to find Madeleine now, than she was then?

The press do the McCanns no favours at all really with their ridiculous headlines.

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by Doug D on 01.05.15 22:14

Trouble with all the spoof names, only pagemaster knows what’s genuine & she obviously can’t reveal anything.
 
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Behind you 100% Mr Amaral. xx

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Post by Silverspeed on 01.05.15 22:52

@sharonl wrote:If your child is missing for whatever reason, surely any parent is 100% driven to find her from the second that she is discovered missing.

If Kate McCann is more driven to finding Madeleine now, how driven was she in [strike]April[strike] May 2007?

What has happened in the last 8 years to make Kate more determined to find Madeleine now, than she was then?

The press do the McCanns no favours at all really with their ridiculous headlines.
agree
Take Winnie Johnson for example. That poor lady spent nearly half a century trying to find out where her son was buried. Sadly she didn't succeed but she was 100% driven on finding him from the moment he disappeared until her dying day.

The McCann's on the other hand are driven my money and greed and a never ending desire to be in the limelight. It's hard to believe that this whole sorry saga has been going on 2 years longer than the 2nd World War, and still with no end in sight.

As I write this I can't help but wonder what was actually going on eight years ago at this moment in time. Was Madeleine alive or had she already met her fate?
Will we ever know for sure?
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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by jeanmonroe on 02.05.15 0:23

What will K&GM be 'doing' between NOW and her 'local bike' ride (UK) to 'find' Madeleine or do they have to wait UNTIL June to start 'finding' her?

Will she have more 'success' in 'finding' Madeleine with her riding a bike?

Still, lest we forget, she did say: "I just feel closer to Madeleine here in Portugal, I mean I might be wrong, she might be closer to the UK."

Might well be eh, Kate?

Might well be MUCH 'closer' to the UK, eh Kate?

Might well be IN the UK eh Kate?

In her luxury 'lair' within a 10km radius of a 'particular place' you might 'visit' on your 'bike ride'?

And YOU, and the biker 'boyz', miraculously, 'found' her!

A-MAZING!

Ps: If she just 'feels' CLOSER to Madeleine in Portugal, why isn't she doing her bike ride, THERE?

I'm sure she'd get a 'warm' welcome, from the family orientated, kind hearted, Portuguese people!

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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by aiyoyo on 02.05.15 5:45

@sharonl wrote:If your child is missing for whatever reason, surely any parent is 100% driven to find her from the second that she is discovered missing.


NOT this set of parents. They didn't search because it was too dark. Now it's just $$$ talk.
She will say anything just to justify the blood money.
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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by PeterMac on 02.05.15 8:19

Kate  was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.

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Post by Miraflores on 02.05.15 9:23

@PeterMac wrote:Kate  was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.
No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?
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Post by aquila on 02.05.15 9:26

@Miraflores wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:Kate  was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.
No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?
The following day their twins were placed back in the creche.
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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by PeterMac on 02.05.15 11:23

@Miraflores wrote:
@PeterMac wrote:Kate  was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.
No PeterMac you do them an injustice! Don't you remember the bewk, where they 'resumed their search' for an hour, by jumping over this, that and the other?

I do indeed. They "resumed" a search, which they hadn't actually started - which is a strange use of language, but given the mangled grammar and syntax which was their norm for that period, can perhaps be forgiven.
Then, they looked around, jumped over things, and after 'nearly an hour" went back to the apartment
BUT - during all this jogging and jumping
The sainted Gerry did not feel it worth mentioning to his beatified wife that the immaculate Jane Tanner had seen an abductor carting Madeleine off some 10 hours before, and therefore didn't think it worth looking in that direction. And for that the canonised Kate forgave him. Gerry impeded the search from the start !
But I am rightly rebuked !

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Post by aiyoyo on 02.05.15 12:00

@PeterMac wrote:Kate  was "Really driven" to stare at a candle all night, and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
Gerry was "Really driven" to crash out on a camp bed. and then go jogging for 50 minutes in the morning, before giving up.
And that was it.
That was the extent of their being "Really Driven" to search for their eldest daughter.

But of course they knew knew that no one would find her, hence the lollipop and the smiles and laughter, and the sneering at all the plebs who were searching.

Give them a bit more than that !
They did spend some blood money on a series of "questionable" private eyes.

That said, they fail to follow up on private eyes' Hellish Lair claim, and fail to act on the e-fits.

That's how DRIVEN we know Kate IS.
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Re: Telegraph -Kate McCann "more driven than ever" to find Madeleine

Post by PeterMac on 02.05.15 12:06

@aiyoyo wrote:
That said, they fail to follow up on private eyes' Hellish Lair claim, and fail to act on the e-fits.
That's how DRIVEN we know Kate IS.
 

Or to answer the telephone when people rang in . . .

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Post by jeanmonroe on 02.05.15 12:41

aquila wrote:
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The following day their twins were placed back in the creche.
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ALONGSIDE, lest we forget, JW's child, and various T7 children.

ALL 'KNOWING' THERE WAS AN UNKNOWN, UNCAUGHT, PAEDOPHILE BURGLATOR 'ON THE LOOSE'!

Yeah, RIGHT!

The 'peado/burglator' MIGHT have had 'unguarded' access to the 'creche'!

Who are the T9 and JW's 'trying' to 'kid'?

Those 'kids' would have be 'chained' to their 'sides, legs, waists'!

UNLESS, of course, 'THEY' all knew, KNEW, there was NO, and NEVER WAS, a 'paedo/burglator'!

JW, on being 'told', his tennis 'buddy's' child had been 'abducted', by one of the 'gang', (MO), YAWNED, (probably) and WENT BACK TO BED!

"They" did NOT 'need' his eyes, and HELP, to 'search' for Madeleine!

Oh pleeeasssee!

"Pull the other one!"






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Post by jeanmonroe on 02.05.15 13:10

Just 'checked' the 'local bike' (UK) ride page and there's no huge £5,000 'donation' from CRA/Missing People, 'devotee' Huge Grant, as YET!

just to add: KM will NOT be ACTUALLY be 'searching' for Madeleine, in June, she'll be raising 'awareness' for OTHER people to 'search' for her child!

NOT her,................... obviously!

Far to 'bizzy, bizzy, bizzy' to do that!

'ruuning, bike riding, fancy dinners at top hotels' etc.,

Will the McCann's and 'friends' be 'hi jacking', AGAIN, the Clapham Common, Missing People, 10k charidy 'run', TODAY?

Can't have, a REAL 'victim', April Jones' dad taking all the 'kudos' can they?

I reckon, all these 'charidy' erm, 'runs' with their T7 'friends' are a 'cover' for them to 'have a lick', of THIS past year's, 'donations/libel awards'....... 'lolly'!

all, mo, obviously.


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Post by jeanmonroe on 02.05.15 13:17

"WELL DONE" to Paul Jones for completing his 10k run!

Excellent!

A REAL dad!

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Post by aquila on 02.05.15 15:44

I'm not sure where to put this observation so I'm sticking it here.

The Missing People charity is currently advertising two salaried vacancies on their website, a Senior Service Co-ordinator and Return Home Interview Co-ordinator with salaries of £26/27k pa and £23/24k pa pro rata.

Both positions offer the same benefits as listed below. I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.



Benefits

  • 25 days annual leave per annum/pro rata plus statutory holidays
  • Additional annual leave days awarded on length of service*
  • Company pension contribution
  • Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines
  • Life insurance (3 x salary)*
  • Interest-free Season Ticket Loans*
  • Additional maternity and paternity pay and leave*
  • Childcare vouchers
  • Eye care vouchers

*available after probation period passed

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/about-us/work-for-us/current-vacancies.html


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Post by Tony Bennett on 02.05.15 15:56

@aquila wrote: I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.

Benefits

  • Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines

Presumably, part and parcel of the employee benefits package includes these, all provided free if and when you may need them:

- free access to somone - a doctor - who is not your GP, to discuss any confidential medical issues you may have

- the free services of a financial adviser

- free provision of legal information (though not advice) should you need it and

- free counselling on personal and relationship issues.


It seems this bike ride is mainly to pay for two new jobs

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Post by aquila on 02.05.15 16:20

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@aquila wrote: I have highlighted in red something which I'm hoping someone can explain to me.

Benefits

  • Access to confidential GP, financial and legal information and counselling helplines

Presumably, part and parcel of the employee benefits package includes these, all provided free if and when you may need them:

- free access to somone - a doctor - who is not your GP, to discuss any confidential medical issues you may have

- the free services of a financial adviser

- free provision of legal information (though not advice) should you need it and

- free counselling on personal and relationship issues.


It seems this bike ride is mainly to pay for two new jobs
Thank you for explaining Tony.
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Post by j.rob on 03.05.15 14:21

She said: "As the eighth anniversary of our daughter Madeleine's abduction is upon us, I'm more driven than ever to continue the search for Madeleine and to help other families who face the pain of a child being missing. All of us can play a part in helping this important charity."
 
Mrs McCann will lead 20 cyclists on a Cycle Challenge starting at Arthur's Seat, Edinburgh's landmark hill, on June 13.
They will then take in Newcastle, York, Nottingham and Northampton before finishing at the Tower of London on June 17.


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Someone is having a larf here, surely? Why is Kate's cycle challenge ending at the Tower of London, of all places? What has this got to do with missing children or Madeleine?


Is someone being "sent to the Tower" perhaps? Or is it a warning that Traitor's Gate awaits those who break ranks?


My mind is boggling at the possible photo-opportunities if, as someone pointed out on Twitter I think it was, the cycle route will be lined by people booing. 


But really, why end a charity cycle ride to raise money and awareness for missing children at an iconic landmark synonymous with  centuries of bloody history?


While it is true that more recent photos of Kate do portray her rather like a woman condemned, surely there would be more fitting places for an end-of-charity cycle (for missing children) photo-op than the Tower of London?


Or perhaps not.....


This case gets more bizarre by the minute.

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Post by PeterMac on 03.05.15 15:17

Are the twins expected to look after themselves for those four days ?

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Post by nomendelta on 03.05.15 15:32

Well given that they seemed to struggle with arranging childcare for their trips to the hearings in Portugal is entirely possible the twins will have to take care of themselves. Whatever, I'm quite sure that it'll all be within the bounds of responsible parenting.

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Post by sammyc on 03.05.15 20:14

@PeterMac wrote:Are the twins expected to look after themselves for those four days ?
Oh come on PM, now you are being a bit silly.  The twins and Madeleine (all under 4 years old) were left to themselves, more than eight years ago- night after night , so why should anyone care for their welfare now?
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