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Re: Marais testimony + PDL public phone

Post by Guest on 18.02.15 16:23

[quote="Gaggzy"][quote="Portia"]Hello there!

'Our friend' makes 5-7 calls per day: (always assuming for a moment its one and the same guy):

April 30th; 6. One at 0054, lasting 1min 30 secs, to nr 21316076;  repeated at 18.12.12, lasting 27 secs
May 1st   : 7. One at 0054, lasting 1min 11 secs, to nr 213160765
May 2nd  : 5. One at 0054, lasting 1min 19 secs, to nr. 213160765
May 3rd  : 7. One at 0052, lasting 1 min 15 secs, to nr 213160765; repeated at 18.22.21, lasting 28 secs

This doesn't look like a machine to me, although you see a striking regularity, reminiscent of the military

Then we see:

April 30th: one at 16.30.13 lasting 30 secs          to nr 00441527835471
May 1st:    one at 16.15.23 lasting 2 min 52 secs to nr 00441527835471

Then:
April 30th : one at 19.02.15 lasting  1 min 14 secs to nr 916350831
May 2nd   : one at 17.12.34 lasting  1 min 56 secs to nr 916350831

Then:
May 1st : one at 20.19.38 lasting 2 min 59 secs to nr 00441179083584
May 3rd : one at 19.58.27 lasting 18 secs          to nr 00441179083584

Then:
May 3rd: 
one at 17.11.32 lasting 2 secs to nr. 00441709861713
and another one at 19.02.45 lasting 4 secs to nr. 0441709861713
and yet another one at 19.04.15 lasting 5 minutes and 54 seconds to nr 00441709861713

May 3rd shows a clear breach from the 'normal' pattern, a decided urgency, witnessed by the two calls around 19.00 hrs, within minutes. 
Then a much longer exchange than the usually very brief ones going before: almost 6 minutes. 

Do we have anyone in the house with a military or security background, who could shed some light on what went on here? 

First I thought it looked like what a drugdealer might do; but one thing doesn't fit then: the precise timing of the calls. 

Curiouser and curiouser![/quote]

Good work, Portia.

Surely the coppers have thoroughly investigated these calls?[/quote]
Hello Gaggzy, you sure were fast on the draw! I added/deleted some remarks and posted again. Tnx for commenting.
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Re: Marais testimony + PDL public phone

Post by Guest on 18.02.15 18:23

@ Portia
Do we have anyone in the house with a military or security background, who could shed some light on what went on here? 

Kikoratton, GCHQ background, doesn't post here but he does twitter.  He's looked at telephone records.
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Post by Ayniia on 18.02.15 19:04

Ladyinred wrote:@ Portia
Do we have anyone in the house with a military or security background, who could shed some light on what went on here? 

Kikoratton, GCHQ background, doesn't post here but he does twitter.  He's looked at telephone records.

That's what i said in the initial post, that i don't know if he looked at this list, can someone that does twitter ask him please? I tried twitter once but the Mccan hastag is too heavy for me, i can't stand those pointless wars that go on there.

But yeah Portia I agree the list has something fishy and
rustyjames wrote:
It was a public phone, so that 21 number might have nothing to do with the others.
I know but in the 3rd that number is in the middle of all the other calls, which IMHO is quite odd.

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Post by Guest on 18.02.15 19:07

Kiko doesn't post on McCann hashtag.
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Post by sparkyhorrox on 18.02.15 21:34

Portia wrote:
Gaggzy wrote:
Portia wrote:Hello there!

'Our friend' makes 5-7 calls per day: (always assuming for a moment its one and the same guy):

April 30th; 6. One at 0054, lasting 1min 30 secs, to nr 21316076;  repeated at 18.12.12, lasting 27 secs
May 1st   : 7. One at 0054, lasting 1min 11 secs, to nr 213160765
May 2nd  : 5. One at 0054, lasting 1min 19 secs, to nr. 213160765
May 3rd  : 7. One at 0052, lasting 1 min 15 secs, to nr 213160765; repeated at 18.22.21, lasting 28 secs

This doesn't look like a machine to me, although you see a striking regularity, reminiscent of the military

Then we see:

April 30th: one at 16.30.13 lasting 30 secs          to nr 00441527835471
May 1st:    one at 16.15.23 lasting 2 min 52 secs to nr 00441527835471

Then:
April 30th : one at 19.02.15 lasting  1 min 14 secs to nr 916350831
May 2nd   : one at 17.12.34 lasting  1 min 56 secs to nr 916350831

Then:
May 1st : one at 20.19.38 lasting 2 min 59 secs to nr 00441179083584
May 3rd : one at 19.58.27 lasting 18 secs          to nr 00441179083584

Then:
May 3rd: 
one at 17.11.32 lasting 2 secs to nr. 00441709861713
and another one at 19.02.45 lasting 4 secs to nr. 0441709861713
and yet another one at 19.04.15 lasting 5 minutes and 54 seconds to nr 00441709861713

May 3rd shows a clear breach from the 'normal' pattern, a decided urgency, witnessed by the two calls around 19.00 hrs, within minutes. 
Then a much longer exchange than the usually very brief ones going before: almost 6 minutes. 

Do we have anyone in the house with a military or security background, who could shed some light on what went on here? 

First I thought it looked like what a drugdealer might do; but one thing doesn't fit then: the precise timing of the calls. 

Curiouser and curiouser!

Good work, Portia.

Surely the coppers have thoroughly investigated these calls?
Hello Gaggzy, you sure were fast on the draw! I added/deleted some remarks and posted again. Tnx for commenting.
Hello Portia, good work and easier to see.. I posted earlier on these numbers from a site called 'True caller' which gave me the names of 2 of the numbers one being an Amy Tearney.. ..plus a follow on post.

According to BT area codes : the 0044 numbers ending in 5471  is the Redditch area (Worcestershire)

                                                    "                  "           3584     "     Bristol

                                                    "                 "            1713    "      West Sussex

I will keep looking and hope someone else can shed some light.. smilie

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Post by Ayniia on 18.02.15 22:00

Ladyinred wrote:Kiko doesn't post on McCann hashtag.
I wasn't talking about him, I was talking in general, we tweet something about Mccann and right away there's people calling us bad names, it's surreal.
Sorry OT.

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Post by lj on 18.02.15 22:29

Ayniia wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:@ Portia
Do we have anyone in the house with a military or security background, who could shed some light on what went on here? 

Kikoratton, GCHQ background, doesn't post here but he does twitter.  He's looked at telephone records.

That's what i said in the initial post, that i don't know if he looked at this list, can someone that does twitter ask him please? I tried twitter once but the Mccan hastag is too heavy for me, i can't stand those pointless wars that go on there.

But yeah Portia I agree the list has something fishy and
rustyjames wrote:
It was a public phone, so that 21 number might have nothing to do with the others.
I know but in the 3rd that number is in the middle of all the other calls, which IMHO is quite odd.
With half an hour before and after the other calls, so not continuous. Imo that is a too long period on a public phone to say they are connected.

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Post by Masterblaster on 19.02.15 9:46

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
sparkyhorrox wrote:
the other seems to be a coincidence 'maybe' 7956072557 used by EE T.Mobile  by an AMY TEARNEY...again google throws up AMY TIERNEY.. a Nanny at MW's?


I've no idea where you've got that from.

When I Google 07956072557 it comes up as Maggie Wright - Frodingham - North Lincolnshire

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Post by rustyjames on 19.02.15 12:08

Masterblaster wrote:
When I Google 07956072557 it comes up as Maggie Wright - Frodingham - North Lincolnshire

Was that from uk-book.info?  I initially found that and thought it would be very interesting what else was in the address book, however googling about the site there are lots of discussions regarding people finding their numbers in there against random names.

It looks like a random collection of numbers and random names organised into random address books, (try searching the different folders in the web address).  I don't know what it's real purpose is but I think it's a red herring in this case.

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Post by sparkyhorrox on 19.02.15 15:22

Masterblaster wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:
sparkyhorrox wrote:
the other seems to be a coincidence 'maybe' 7956072557 used by EE T.Mobile  by an AMY TEARNEY...again google throws up AMY TIERNEY.. a Nanny at MW's?


I've no idea where you've got that from.

When I Google 07956072557 it comes up as Maggie Wright - Frodingham - North Lincolnshire
Hi
I hope I haven't thrown a big spanner in the works here!  I can' t get any numbers off google direct... but again I used True Caller..which I can't authenticate,  but tried and was successful with 6 out of 12 personal and work based numbers from my hubbys phone.   I hope they are not just random picks..but 6/12 seemed genuine to me.  Apart from ringing the number direct (would that make it stalking?) I am sure someone higher up in this field or of course SY/PJ would look at it.. smilie

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Post by PEANUT66 on 20.02.15 16:02

I have been in touch with Kiko,
I don't believe he/she was aware of these calls so is having a look at them, nothing to report at the moment but will let you know if I hear anything of interest.

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Post by RogerRabbit on 20.02.15 16:59

sparkyhorrox wrote:
Masterblaster wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:
sparkyhorrox wrote:
the other seems to be a coincidence 'maybe' 7956072557 used by EE T.Mobile  by an AMY TEARNEY...again google throws up AMY TIERNEY.. a Nanny at MW's?


I've no idea where you've got that from.

When I Google 07956072557 it comes up as Maggie Wright - Frodingham - North Lincolnshire
Hi
I hope I haven't thrown a big spanner in the works here!  I can' t get any numbers off google direct... but again I used True Caller..which I can't authenticate,  but tried and was successful with 6 out of 12 personal and work based numbers from my hubbys phone.   I hope they are not just random picks..but 6/12 seemed genuine to me.  Apart from ringing the number direct (would that make it stalking?) I am sure someone higher up in this field or of course SY/PJ would look at it.. smilie

I've also been playing with True Caller.

For me it doesn't report names associated with land lines, except in the case of businesses.

With respect to mobile numbers, I've found some - including my own - which report a name. So far the ones that report a name all appear to be former or current 'pay monthly' contract SIMs, whereas I've checked numbers taken out at exactly the same time as mine, on the same network, but which were PAYG and they don't report a name.

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Post by mad world on 21.02.15 18:48

Most payg are not registered and are favoured by gangsters,dealers and for booty calls. Hence no names

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Post by RogerRabbit on 22.02.15 9:06

mad world wrote:Most payg are not registered and are favoured by gangsters,dealers and for booty calls. Hence no names
So which one of those do you think my mum is doing?

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Post by Ayniia on 03.03.15 16:33

PEANUT66 wrote:I have been in touch with Kiko,
I don't believe he/she was aware of these calls so is having a look at them, nothing to report at the moment but will let you know if I hear anything of interest.

Has Kiko said anything yet?

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Post by Guest on 03.03.15 17:26

[quote="Ayniia"][quote="PEANUT66"]I have been in touch with Kiko,
I don't believe he/she was aware of these calls so is having a look at them, nothing to report at the moment but will let you know if I hear anything of interest.[/quote]

Has Kiko said anything yet?[/quote]

Not a pee-Nutter, surely?
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Post by mad world on 03.03.15 23:15

Rogerrabbit...could be a hat-trick?

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Post by PEANUT66 on 04.03.15 8:10

Sorry for the delay.

Kiko did get back to me, this is his take.

His question would be "Did AT facilitate the call to Rotherham which finally took place and lasted 6 minutes"?

He also said " The most intriguing number is Lisbon 213160765, it looks like someone is making a midnight situation report, plus two others after 18.00 on interesting days".

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Post by Guest on 04.03.15 8:22

Good morning Peanut. 

Your post leaves me a little confused. 

'His question would be..'; but what IS his question? 

Where does the AT reference come from? 

Which call is to Rotherham?

What is the relevance of this matter?

Could you please elaborate? 

When you have these data, will you then get back to Kiko? 

What will be your/his/her follow-up, if any?

Thank you in advance for your efforts!
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Post by PEANUT66 on 04.03.15 8:28

Portia wrote:Good morning Peanut. 

Your post leaves me a little confused. 

Which call to Rotherham do you refer to?

Morning back to you Portia.

I'm honestly not sure.

I got Kiko to have a look at the thread, he was really interested in the data provided, also as far as I know hadn't researched it before.

I do not know I'm sorry, just relaying back what he messaged me.

Maybe someone who is clued up will be able to put it in perspective.

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Post by PEANUT66 on 04.03.15 8:33

Portia,
I take it "His question" (would be) is just a figure of speech, as his take and what he finds interesting about the calls.
Sorry I cant be more helpful, but he really does know his stuff.

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