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Post by mysterion on 10.01.15 12:09

I recall that at the time of the news release about the findings of the dog search that he whole thing was dismissed as a fit up. I don`t know who said it and what happened next. 

Before joining this forum, my perception was that the dog evidence had been rubished by investigators. If I had that perception then, chances are, thousands would have also. What is the story behind this? If there is a thread then please point me.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.01.15 12:51

@mysterion wrote:I recall that at the time of the news release about the findings of the dog search that [t]he whole thing was dismissed as a fit up. I don't know who said it and what happened next. 

Before joining this forum, my perception was that the dog evidence had been rubished by investigators. If I had that perception then, chances are, thousands would have also. What is the story behind this? If there is a thread then please point me.

The claim that the human corpse scent might have been put there deliberately, e.g. by the Portugese Police, was one of the McCanns' early claims, along with these subsequent claims:

* the dogs got confused with dirty nappies
* the dogs got confused with rotting meat and
* Martin Grime didn't know what he was doing, gave the dogs unconscious or conscious signals, and misled the poor creatures (pp. 249-251, 'madeleine', by Dr Kate McCann, Bantam Press (hardback), 2011).

I recall one of your first intriguing posts on here, over a year ago:

"Thinking about why the McCanns have always pushed the abduction. Perhaps it is true. Maybe something happened in the apartment and Madeleine was moved somewhere discr[eet] for treatment but she was abducted from there".

I wonder if you have read Inspector Tavares de Almeida's Interim Report of 10 September 2007 yet?

If not, I'd recommend you go straight there and read it

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Post by Guest on 10.01.15 13:16

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@mysterion wrote:I recall that at the time of the news release about the findings of the dog search that [t]he whole thing was dismissed as a fit up. I don't know who said it and what happened next. 

Before joining this forum, my perception was that the dog evidence had been rubished by investigators. If I had that perception then, chances are, thousands would have also. What is the story behind this? If there is a thread then please point me.

The claim that the human corpse scent might have been put there deliberately, e.g. by the Portugese Police, was one of the McCanns' early claims, along with these subsequent claims:

* the dogs got confused with dirty nappies
* the dogs got confused with rotting meat and
* Martin Grime didn't know what he was doing, gave the dogs unconscious or conscious signals, and misled the poor creatures (pp. 249-251, 'madeleine', by Dr Kate McCann, Bantam Press (hardback), 2011).

I recall one of your first intriguing posts on here, over a year ago:

"Thinking about why the McCanns have always pushed the abduction. Perhaps it is true. Maybe something happened in the apartment and Madeleine was moved somewhere discr[eet] for treatment but she was abducted from there".

I wonder if you have read Inspector Tavares de Almeida's Interim Report of 10 September 2007 yet?

If not, I'd recommend you go straight there and read it
I've just read them again,always worth a reminder,one thing I hadn't sort of noticed before is a reference to "a diary style manuscript" possibly authored by K McCann,what was he referring to.


https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2146-the-report-of-tavares-de-almeida-10-sep-2007

During the house search at the McCann couple’s residence, a diary style manuscript was found, already photocopied, possibly authored by Dr Kate McCann; admitting that it may contain information that may help to reach the material truth of facts.
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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.01.15 13:27

WMD wrote:
...one thing I hadn't sort of noticed before is a reference to "a diary style manuscript" possibly authored by K McCann, what was he referring to?

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t2146-the-report-of-tavares-de-almeida-10-sep-2007
"During the house search at the McCann couple’s residence, a diary style manuscript was found, already photocopied, possibly authored by Dr Kate McCann; admitting that it may contain information that may help to reach the material truth of facts".
This was a 'diary' which Kate McCann was advised to write by one of the many top-level advisers who descended on Praia da Luz after 3 May 2007 (can't remember which one now).

It is what is commonly known in the legal trade as a 'self-serving statement', i.e. statements made after an event, the only purpose of which are to back up the writer's version of events - and consequently of no evidential value whatsoever.

Although I think Inspector de Almeida used the diary as evidence of what he said was a considerable amount of 'backfitting' by the McCanns.


ETA: This was the diary of which the NOTW published extracts - an event which featured very very heavily in the Leveson enquiry

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Post by Guest on 10.01.15 13:35

@ Tony, thank you.
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