Re: Two year sentences for Trolls

by jeanmonroe 19.10.14 7:28

GM: "Bernie, i want some of OUR 'Maddie Cops' to arrest and charge a nasty twitterer........NOW!"

BHH "what did the person say?"

GM: "well i 'heard', from our media monitor, because Kate and i don't actually have a twitter account, that somebody wanted to give both of us 'a good fonging' and that's just 'wrong' and 'offensive' and 'abusive' isn't it?

BHH: "er, not really"

GM: "Get that person arrested now, Howe, I want that person in court and made an example off. Kate and I pay your wages!"

BHH: "what exactly is 'fonging'?"

GM: " I dunno, but it sounds scary, and disgusting, and life threatening, and all that other stuff we said in the media last week, i'm so scared of getting a 'fonging'

BHH: "Call Mahogany at er, Operation Grange, whatever that is. I can't remember"

GM: " I'm gonna tell Theresa and David about you not doing exactly as Kate and I have instructed you to do!"

by The....truth 19.10.14 7:30

Well, who could say. It is a very important job after all.

I would gamble that some one would step forward.

And if he doesn't get appointed I would recommend Jean Monroe. Tactful and discreet !!

by Guest 19.10.14 7:31

aquila wrote:Jim Gamble, doesn't think that all people downloading pornographic images of children should necessarily receive a prison sentence.

The author, John Grisham, agrees with the above. Article in last week's Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11165656/John-Grisham-men-who-watch-child-porn-are-not-all-paedophiles.html

This discussion on last Thursday's Radio 4's 'PM' programme @ 20:11.

ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04l3br9

by Geowoo 19.10.14 7:32

jeanmonroe wrote:GM: "Bernie, i want some of OUR 'Maddie Cops' to arrest and charge a nasty twitterer........NOW!"

BHH "what did the person say?"

GM: "well i 'heard', from our media monitor, because Kate and i don't actually have a twitter account, that somebody wanted to give both of us 'a good fonging' and that's just 'wrong' and 'offensive' and 'abusive' isn't it?

BHH: "er, not really"

GM: "Get that person arrested now, Howe, I want that person in court and made an example off. Kate and I pay your wages!"

BHH: "what exactly is 'fonging'?"

GM: " I dunno, but it sounds scary, and disgusting, and life threatening, and all that other stuff we said in the media last week, i'm so scared of getting a 'fonging'

BHH: "Call Mahogany at er, Operation Grange, whatever that is. I can't remember"

GM: " I'm gonna tell Theresa and David about you not doing exactly as Kate and I have instructed you to do!"

Gerry: Now FONG off....thats a good chap!! big grin

by jeanmonroe 19.10.14 7:36

Joss wrote:Who is going to monitor the thousands of twitters and facebook content and sift through comments they think might be trolling, LOL.

Gamble's at a loose end!

Perhaps when he becomes, self appointed, TROLL FINDER GENERAL, the first person he'll go after is his fellow pro McCann 'supporter' the 'life threatening' Cindy Martin! (surely? Would have to be top of his list, wouldn't she?)

by TheTruthWillOut 19.10.14 7:36

Here is one of my problems with the current law:

Frankie Boyle posts "sick" Twitter jokes. Lots of complaints and tabloid headlines, but nothing done.

Average Joe on Facebook posts "sick" jokes: Gets 12 weeks in prison.

by HelenMeg 19.10.14 8:05

Gerry and Kate labbed Madeliene and then gogged her body, so they say.

by HelenMeg 19.10.14 8:11

Noone should be put off from discussing the case, as we do. There's no problem in doing that . We dont threaten and we dont abuse - we just discuss the case as we understand it and we question it. We must continue this.

by Joss 19.10.14 8:13

HelenMeg wrote:Gerry and Kate labbed Madeliene and then gogged her body, so they say.

Good one, i like the idea of a whole new internet language, let them sort that out, thumbup

by Joss 19.10.14 8:15

HelenMeg wrote:Noone should be put off from discussing the case, as we do. There's no problem in doing that . We dont threaten and we dont abuse - we just discuss the case as we understand it and we question it. We must continue this.

Totally agree.

by jeanmonroe 19.10.14 8:32

Joss wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:Gerry and Kate labbed Madeliene and then gogged her body, so they say.

Good one, i like the idea of a whole new internet language, let them sort that out,

Wot 'Ge££y and Hate' iz youz talks abhout, innit?

by Joss 19.10.14 8:45

jeanmonroe wrote:
Joss wrote:
HelenMeg wrote:Gerry and Kate labbed Madeliene and then gogged her body, so they say.

Good one, i like the idea of a whole new internet language, let them sort that out,

Wot 'Ge££y and Hate' iz youz talks abhout, innit?

At b roight eh, wave

by NickE 19.10.14 8:50

Sonia Poulton and Katie Hopkins on Sky.

by Joss 19.10.14 8:52

NickE wrote:Sonia Poulton and Katie Hopkins on Sky.

What are they saying, i don't get sky. TIA :)

by Geowoo 19.10.14 9:19

Let me try this out and see if it works:

I heard a lady on the bus saying(quote) that twa dugs wagged their tails in a flat in Portuguese...and then a pair o braw yins got hauled in tae answer 48 thingies...but the brazen besom wisnae huvvin any o it.
Now think they're living high and dry....but it's clarence clear to most that this is a gambol. (unquote) big grin

by plebgate 19.10.14 9:38

Ladyinred wrote:
aquila wrote:Jim Gamble, doesn't think that all people downloading pornographic images of children should necessarily receive a prison sentence.

The author, John Grisham, agrees with the above. Article in last week's Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11165656/John-Grisham-men-who-watch-child-porn-are-not-all-paedophiles.html

This discussion on last Thursday's Radio 4's 'PM' programme @ 20:11.

ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04l3br9

I did read yesterday that the man that Grisham "defended" has turned round and said he did deserve jail.

These are very crazy times, but these people can be voted out and if it carries on like this for much longer there will be people who will start standing against them as independent candidates and one of them will get my vote for sure.

by Joss 19.10.14 9:44

Geowoo wrote:Let me try this out and see if it works:

I heard a lady on the bus saying(quote) that twa dugs wagged their tails in a flat in Portuguese...and then a pair o braw yins got hauled in tae answer 48 thingies...but the brazen besom wisnae huvvin any o it.
Now think they're living high and dry....but it's clarence clear to most that this is a gambol. (unquote)

Hahaha, Love it, too funny, :iconbiggrin:

by truthfultiger 19.10.14 9:47

PeterMac wrote:Didn't Gerry say he was NOT involved in the dossier ?
Have the ST done it again ?

I think that naughty ST is fishing to see who'll bite. Afterall £50k isn't that much for them in the grand scheme of things (or I wouldn't have thought so). Possibly worth an out of court settlement or too for the sake of catching a gerryfish. All in my opinion of course.

by Geowoo 19.10.14 9:47

I listened to the Grisham article on tv. He suggested that any visits to child porn sites were clumsy, fumbling acts of drunk men who had pressed a few wrong buttons on their keyboard.

by plebgate 19.10.14 9:50

truthfultiger wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Didn't Gerry say he was NOT involved in the dossier ?
Have the ST done it again ?

I think that naughty ST is fishing to see who'll bite. Afterall £50k isn't that much for them in the grand scheme of things (or I wouldn't have thought so). Possibly worth an out of court settlement or too for the sake of catching a gerryfish. All in my opinion of course.

Will be worth watching to see if ST are made to apologise or money paid out again.

I may have missed something but has anyone yet to see a correction by Mr. H-Howe ref. his comments on the radio show?

by Joss 19.10.14 10:00

Geowoo wrote:I listened to the Grisham article on tv. He suggested that any visits to child porn sites were clumsy, fumbling acts of drunk men who had pressed a few wrong buttons on their keyboard.

by Geowoo 19.10.14 10:01

truthfultiger wrote:
PeterMac wrote:Didn't Gerry say he was NOT involved in the dossier ?
Have the ST done it again ?

I think that naughty ST is fishing to see who'll bite. Afterall £50k isn't that much for them in the grand scheme of things (or I wouldn't have thought so). Possibly worth an out of court settlement or too for the sake of catching a gerryfish. All in my opinion of course.

50k is a piddling amount but the perception of wrongdoing in the mind of their readership is far more damaging. they cannot be seen to bend the knee to this odious couple....Jeez...just got myself a two year stretch for this comment! sad1

by mouse 19.10.14 10:09

Was listening to 5Live end of last week and the Grisham story (which hasn't had that much news coverage) came up and the female presenter then spoke to an 'Expert' on child exploitation - yes you guessed it our old pal Jim Gamble. She asked him if Mr Grisham's view on this matter was right. He answered that no it was not correct as children were being abused so that Mr Grishams friend and others could view these pictures. Well blow me, but I could have sworn this was not his opinion a short while ago......As Aquilia also pointed out, his thoughts on this were clearly made, and caused much shock at the time.

Well now it appears that Jim has shifted his stance on this matter....Perhaps someone should remind him that some of us have memories, and don't forget. Also, this casts an awful big question mark over everything he says now, I mean flip flopping on such a serious issue - one that he is a 'so-called' expert on?????? What are we to believe?

Mind you, some of us have always had a major question mark over Mr JG.

by Geowoo 19.10.14 10:10

Joss wrote:
Geowoo wrote:I listened to the Grisham article on tv. He suggested that any visits to child porn sites were clumsy, fumbling acts of drunk men who had pressed a few wrong buttons on their keyboard.

Apologies for not giving a link....don't know how to...but go to YouTube and watch it there. I am not the only one who is shocked.

by Joss 19.10.14 10:22

Geowoo wrote:
Joss wrote:
Geowoo wrote:I listened to the Grisham article on tv. He suggested that any visits to child porn sites were clumsy, fumbling acts of drunk men who had pressed a few wrong buttons on their keyboard.

Apologies for not giving a link....don't know how to...but go to YouTube and watch it there. I am not the only one who is shocked.

Just read the article that a link was posted to a couple of pages back, so how sick are these people, just disgusting, IMO.

by Geowoo 19.10.14 10:27

The original intention of this thread was to bring attention to the "Trolling" measures... I have gone a bit astray and would hope we can return to the start of this topic.. My apologies.

by Geowoo 19.10.14 10:47

If this is a serious attempt to moderate online abuse then I am at a loss as to how it will be done! There are so many issues of suicides..angry theorists.. Sexual predators.. So where do you start? My take is that the most pressing concern will be those with a dissenting voice against the Government and all the sleazy files conveniently lost which might reveal their "activities"

by Geowoo 19.10.14 10:50

I want to know what "trolling" is..so vague and loose. But might get you locked up. prisoner

by HelenMeg 19.10.14 11:08

I wonder if we can find direct reference to when Gerry possible denied handing over dossier or having anything to do with it. Someone evidently wishes to make it clear that he / they did.
Was it an interview or report - i'm trying to find it but having no success.

by HelenMeg 19.10.14 11:09

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/02/abuse-dossier-kate-gerry-mccann-police-madeleine

Guardian reports :

A dossier of online abuse directed at the parents of Madeleine McCann is being examined by police.
Members of the public have handed to Scotland Yard a file stretching to more than 80 pages of tweets, Facebook posts and forum messages aimed at Kate and Gerry McCann, according to Sky News.

http://news.sky.com/story/1346687/gerry-mccann-says-make-example-of-web-trolls
Gerry McCann said online abuse had caused "severe distress" to him and his wife Kate and that police should be more willing to prosecute the perpetrators.
He was speaking after Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt revealed in a special report that Scotland Yard is investigating a dossier of social media abuse targeting the McCanns - whose three-year-old daughter went missing on a family holiday in 2007.
When confronted over her actions, one of the trolls, who used the name "Sweepyface" online, told Sky News she believed she was "entitled" to attack the couple on Twitter.
Mr McCann said he had not read the Sweepyface tweets, but he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "Clearly something needs to be done about the abuse on the internet. I think we probably need more people to be charged.

Mr McCann also branded the Sunday Times "disgraceful" after winning a £55,000 libel payout over a story which claimed the couple had deliberately hindered the search for Madeleine, who vanished in Praia da Luz.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Sky news + Sunday Times - major game playing going on. Gerry says he did not read the Sweepyface tweets yet he, says Hogan-Howe and ST, was responsible (with his family ) for handing over dossier to OG - as usual - some lies are being told, it would seem, IMO. Confusion.

1. Guardian report incorrect as it says members of the public handed over dossier. Who fed it that line?
2. The Bernard Hogan Howe states it was family that gave dossier to SY.
3. Now ST is reinforcing that family handed it over - in fact they make it very clear - almost as if they wrote the piece in order to make it clear!

Now think back that Martin Brunt did a special Sky report to investigate the dossier - so who is in cahoots with whom? Team Mc Cann + Martin Brunt (Sky) . Then it backfires with the awful tragedy of teh death of Brenda. The Sunday Times makes it clear that the family handed over the dossier. So does that seem like an about turn by someone?