Re: A VERY QUICK FIRST SCAN OF 'LOOKING FOR MADELEINE'

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 15.09.14 10:28

Ladyinred wrote:Perhaps PamG is Kate's mother, Susan. Is she 72 years old?

This is Pamela Gurney on her facebook page, no way is she 72. https://www.facebook.com/pamela.gurney.7

by sallypelt 15.09.14 10:35

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Perhaps PamG is Kate's mother, Susan. Is she 72 years old?
This is Pamela Gurney on her facebook page, no way is she 72. https://www.facebook.com/pamela.gurney.7

Google, PG IS 72 years of age. I cannot open the link you have provided, but if it is the photograph of someone with long wavy hair, and a white top, that's a very old photograph of her.

As it's against the rules of this forum to post personal information on here, I will refrain from posting anything more on this person, but I know who she is, and I know lots of personal details about her.

by inspirespirit 15.09.14 11:08

sallypelt wrote:
Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:Perhaps PamG is Kate's mother, Susan. Is she 72 years old?
This is Pamela Gurney on her facebook page, no way is she 72. https://www.facebook.com/pamela.gurney.7

Google, PG IS 72 years of age. I cannot open the link you have provided, but if it is the photograph of someone with long wavy hair, and a white top, that's a very old photograph of her.

As it's against the rules of this forum to post personal information on here, I will refrain from posting anything more on this person, but I know who she is, and I know lots of personal details about her.

yes that is the photo Sallyspelt. There is another one of her looking older, in a green top. I'm summizing, but it looks as if she is in Scotland in the photo. She knows a LOT about the case, and has an answer for everything. She talks about TM's as if she knows them intimately. There are no friends on her facebook page, which is why I thought it wasn't real. She 'sounds' so much like Kate when she 'talks'.

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 11:23

noddy100 wrote:The authors are very touchy I asked them a question on twitter re omissions and how they decided what to include and what not and they blocked me!

Well of course they did! They are as guilty as sin!

In my opinion.

by HelenMeg 15.09.14 11:26

Brian Griffin wrote:
noddy100 wrote:The authors are very touchy I asked them a question on twitter re omissions and how they decided what to include and what not and they blocked me!
Well of course they did! They are as guilty as sin!

In my opinion.

I think they will regret writing this book - the word writing used 'loosely'

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 11:31

whatsupdoc wrote:The UK is just wasting time & money...and put a spoke in the PJ wheel.

I suspect the UK police might also be hanging around just in case the PJ pulls a switcheroo and arrest the McCanns on Portuguese soil. That way they can react immediately. Just a theory.

by inspirespirit 15.09.14 11:53

inspirespirit wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
nglfi wrote:I don't know who Pam Gurney is but she's very active on twitter, I've been engaged with someone in a debate before over the McCanns and she cannot resist putting her two penneth in. She is completely mad so I wouldn't pay any attention to what she says

She's a 72 year old woman whose husband is a 74 year old Liverpudlian. I won't reveal any more.
She has commented on this post over on s&S facebook page so she obviously read this forum regularly.

I'm beginning to think it is Kate. If you read back her posts and have Kate in your head, it all really sounds like her. She has said she won't be around much over the next week, so let's see if K & G are in London getting ready for the next round of the damages trial, or even over there ready for it. I'm half convinced she is Kate.

They are on Crimewatch tomorrow ! Hence why 'she won't be around much this week'. I still have an inkling this Pam woman is Kate in disguise.

She (Pamela G) also appears to have the ability to delete comments and people on the S&S FB page. A couple of my comments have been deleted, and that Pam was arguing with someone called Andreai. Pam then said she had had enough, au revoir Andreai, and sure enough Andreai has been removed.

by The Rooster 15.09.14 12:36

Summers and Swan are being interviewed on Talk Radio Europe right now. You can listen by visiting their website on...

http://www.talkradioeurope.net/listen/listen-live

Hope it works. I think you can also listen to the interview in their archive.

by The Rooster 15.09.14 12:57

It was only a short interview no more than 5 mins and pretty shallow. They were on the defensive and mentioned the people that don't believe in the abduction theory. They mentioned that GA was not the monster portrayed in the UK MSM, rather a fairly effective investigator. When asked if they interviewed him the said he declined because of the current libel trial. Mr Summers erred by stating that the McCann's libelled GA. His wife corrected him on that.

Perhaps they are doing the rounds in promoting their book sales and may appear on radio stations that take inbound listeners questions. That would be good. That didn't happen today on Talk Radio Europe.

by Guest 15.09.14 13:08

FACT!

Questions on why the book doesn't mention the Gasper statement are quickly DELETED from S&S Facebook page.

You can try yourselves.

by pennylane 15.09.14 13:12

BlueBag wrote:FACT!

Questions on why the book doesn't mention the Gasper statement are quickly DELETED from S&S Facebook page.

You can try yourselves.

Yep, whoosh cluck! eek

by Guest 15.09.14 13:16

The thing is it's an entirely reasonable question to ask... why did they choose to ignore Gasper?

I think we all can guess though.

by aiyoyo 15.09.14 13:38

Praiaaa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:
She has said she won't be around much over the next week, so let's see if K & G are in London getting ready for the next round of the damages trial, or even over there ready for it. I'm half convinced she is Kate.

Is the trial being resumed now? Can't see any reference to the new date -someone on the other thread said likely to be nearer Xmas?

Not surprised it is dragged until before Christmas. Their lawyer will want to play for time to get their act together now that they can see they are heading towards an oncoming train.

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 13:48

The Rooster wrote:Mr Summers erred by stating that the McCann's libelled GA. His wife corrected him on that.

He looks like a doddery, old codger so I'm not surprised.

In my opinion.

by jeanmonroe 15.09.14 13:55

http://www.talkradioeurope.net/listen/on-demand

can download as mp3.

Monday 15th september 1300-1400 hrs

right click

save.

( i got it on dicty thingy, in case it's 'whooshed cluncked'! winkwink

)

27:00mins-43:30 mins.

Imo, CW 2!

All the dodgy 'geezers' Deadwood 'found' for CW and CW1 (update)

No 'evidence' from S&S that an 'abduction' even took place.

All 'HEARSAY' and 'supposition'.

NO mention of 'Smithman, Tannerman, Crecheman', 'smashed shutter, unlocked patio doors, Gaspars, Payne' etc.,

In short, ABSOLUTELY "NOTHING TO HEAR HERE"!

EXCEPT, YET ANOTHER TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO PROFIT THEMSELVES, (lots of 'plugs' for THEIR 'book') OUT OF WEE MADELEINE'S 'PLIGHT'!

IT'S 'DISGUSTING, DESPICABLE and DEPLORABLE' as McCann spokesman, Clarence M would say!

Convienently 'forgetting' that HE profits, personally, to the tune of £28,000pa, as a 'retainer', paid from Madeleine's Fund, out of the 'plight' of wee Madeleine!

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 13:55

BlueBag wrote:FACT!

Questions on why the book doesn't mention the Gasper statement are quickly DELETED from S&S Facebook page.

You can try yourselves.

They'll probably be paying a dedicated moderator to sit in front of a computer screen and delete awkward questions. Who is 'they', you might ask? Them wot has a 'Fighting Fund' I would imagine! In my opinion only, of course.

I've always been uncomfortable with that term - 'Fighting' Fund. It seems inappropriate and if you need to call it that, you must know you're in for a fight, not just a search campaign. Part of 'The Wider Agenda' no doubt. Again, in my opinion.

by pennylane 15.09.14 14:14

BlueBag wrote:The thing is it's an entirely reasonable question to ask... why did they choose to ignore Gasper?

I think we all can guess though.

Of course it's a reasonable question, A) because children usually go missing due to foul play by a family member or acquaintance, and B) police always look in that direction initially; in yet the UK police sat on this potentially vital information for months, until the case was shelved I believe. Add to that the Home Office not turning over relevant basic financial information on the parents, or health records on Kate and Madeleine, and you would think a (so called) unbiased 'investigative journalist' would smell a rat immediately!

To ignore blatant McCann lies about the shutters, doors and whooshing curtains, etc, and flippantly discard the blood and cadaver dog alerts to all things McCann, and omit the Gaspar statements altogether, exposes this book as yet another pathetic piece of pink McCann tripe, intent on brainwashing the masses, and rewriting history. It's a multi-pronged approach, as Operation Grange have clearly shown in their corrupt investigation, which frantically picks up pace each and every time Goncalo Amaral has a court date.

by aiyoyo 15.09.14 21:27

The Rooster wrote:It was only a short interview no more than 5 mins and pretty shallow. They were on the defensive and mentioned the people that don't believe in the abduction theory. They mentioned that GA was not the monster portrayed in the UK MSM, rather a fairly effective investigator. When asked if they interviewed him the said he declined because of the current libel trial. Mr Summers erred by stating that the McCann's libelled GA. His wife corrected him on that.

Perhaps they are doing the rounds in promoting their book sales and may appear on radio stations that take inbound listeners questions. That would be good. That didn't happen today on Talk Radio Europe.

Going by dopsy Summers trip up, the person who commented on Amazon that the book is work of Swan rather than Summers is probably right in his/her observation.

They tried to promote the book on FB, look what happened?

by davro 15.09.14 21:54

Interesting that quite a few of the 5 star reviews on Amazon are by by first time reviewers. I wonder if Amazon pick up on that kind of thing,I know R.J.Ellory was caught giving his own books very positive reviews.Not suggesting the Summers are doing the same but definitely enough 5 stars with no previous reviews and very similar things to say book to arouse suspicion.

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 22:26

It would be difficult for one person to open many accounts and post reviews due to Amazon's complicated cookie system. They use flash cookies as well as the usual kind. You can open as many accounts as you want, but to be able to post reviews you have to buy something, in doing so giving your credit card details. I think the same details appearing over and over for posting reviews would eventually send up flags. Of course, many people could be asked to open accounts and post. That's my understanding of it. I could, of course, be wrong.

by **Tony Bennett** 15.09.14 23:18

Support for Summers @ Swan at long last! >>>

Summers & Swan [email=‏@summersandswan]‏@summersandswan[/email] 1h

#richardandjudy describe our book, Looking for Madeleine, about #MadeleineMcCann case as "forensically detailed...incredibly chilling".

by Brian Griffin 15.09.14 23:43

Selectively detailed, more like.

When oh when will someone with clout speak up and throw a spanner into this well-oiled propaganda machine.

Paxo? How about you?

As always, in my opinion.

by Guest 15.09.14 23:54

Why didn't the "investigative journalists" talk to the Gaspers?

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:06

Tony Bennett wrote:Support for Summers @ Swan at long last! >>>

Summers & Swan [email=‏@summersandswan]‏@summersandswan[/email] 1h

#richardandjudy describe our book, Looking for Madeleine, about #MadeleineMcCann case as "forensically detailed...incredibly chilling".

Didn't Judy Finnigan support Rosdeep Adekoya, found guilty of killing her young child? Hardly a great reader of character.

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:08

BlueBag wrote:Why didn't the "investigative journalists" talk to the Gaspers?

That's my number one question. It's a litmus test of any serious investigation.

Could it be that they were told what to investigate and what not to investigate?

They haven't clarified their relationship with Team McCann yet, have they?

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:09

Brian Griffin wrote:Selectively detailed, more like.

When oh when will someone with clout speak up and throw a spanner into this well-oiled propaganda machine.

Paxo? How about you?

As always, in my opinion.

Paxman I put in the Hislop bracket. Don't expect anything from either of them. They have done absolutely nothing to lift the lid on the case.

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:16

aiyoyo wrote:
The Rooster wrote:It was only a short interview no more than 5 mins and pretty shallow. They were on the defensive and mentioned the people that don't believe in the abduction theory. They mentioned that GA was not the monster portrayed in the UK MSM, rather a fairly effective investigator. When asked if they interviewed him the said he declined because of the current libel trial. Mr Summers erred by stating that the McCann's libelled GA. His wife corrected him on that.

Perhaps they are doing the rounds in promoting their book sales and may appear on radio stations that take inbound listeners questions. That would be good. That didn't happen today on Talk Radio Europe.

Going by dopsy Summers trip up, the person who commented on Amazon that the book is work of Swan rather than Summers is probably right in his/her observation.

They tried to promote the book on FB, look what happened?

LOL - sounds like Summers is in wind-down mode. She's probably already booked him a place in the retirement home.

Very sad. He probably wasn't a bad journo in the old days.

But, really, would you embark on an investigation of this nature in your mid 70s? I think most of us would acknowledge just how difficult it is to master the massive amount of detail in the case and most of us would not claim to be able to. For someone in their 70s to attempt to do so, is - while not impossible - unlikely to end in success. I think it really is more a job for someone with fantastic energy and intellect in their middle years - old enough to have the experience to sift the huge amount of detail but young enough to have the requisite energy levels.

by Brian Griffin 16.09.14 0:18

But Paxo looked and sounded decidedly unimpressed with Gerry in an interview a few years ago.

Then again, it isn't worth ruining your career for, which is what we are talking with any dissenters.

I wonder if Lorraine Kelly will be packing her bags and heading north of Friday. I really do hope so! And that jacket she is wearing in that new advert for something or other doesn't suit her!

In my opinion.

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:24

inspirespirit wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:
sallypelt wrote:
nglfi wrote:I don't know who Pam Gurney is but she's very active on twitter, I've been engaged with someone in a debate before over the McCanns and she cannot resist putting her two penneth in. She is completely mad so I wouldn't pay any attention to what she says

She's a 72 year old woman whose husband is a 74 year old Liverpudlian. I won't reveal any more.
She has commented on this post over on s&S facebook page so she obviously read this forum regularly.

I'm beginning to think it is Kate. If you read back her posts and have Kate in your head, it all really sounds like her. She has said she won't be around much over the next week, so let's see if K & G are in London getting ready for the next round of the damages trial, or even over there ready for it. I'm half convinced she is Kate.
They are on Crimewatch tomorrow ! Hence why 'she won't be around much this week'. I still have an inkling this Pam woman is Kate in disguise.

She (Pamela G) also appears to have the ability to delete comments and people on the S&S FB page. A couple of my comments have been deleted, and that Pam was arguing with someone called Andreai. Pam then said she had had enough, au revoir Andreai, and sure enough Andreai has been removed.

Does sound a bit weird! Could it be?

by Okeydokey 16.09.14 0:29

Brian Griffin wrote:But Paxo looked and sounded decidedly unimpressed with Gerry in an interview a few years ago.

Then again, it isn't worth ruining your career for, which is what we are talking with any dissenters.

I wonder if Lorraine Kelly will be packing her bags and heading north of Friday. I really do hope so! And that jacket she is wearing in that new advert for something or other doesn't suit her!

In my opinion.

Yes, and Hislop affects a world-weariness when the McCann name comes up...and that's it. No investigations, no lampooning of their daft claims.

You're quite right about people weighing up their careers. That daytime TV woman Katie (Katey?) Hopkins was going to say something about the McCanns, as she indicated on Twitter, but was obviously warned off by people - probably her agent explained to her in stark terms it would be career death. Then there was an Irish Booker or Whitbread Prize winner who bravely spoke out against the McCanns at her award ceremony - I never ever saw her on TV again.

This is really what I object to most about Team McCann - the way they have destroyed free speech in the UK.