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Post by inspirespirit 10.09.14 11:03

http://portugalresident.com/more-revelations-in-the-british-media

Interesting article.


Posted by jomad on September 07, 2014
More "revelations" in the British media

Today (Sunday) saw Sky News once again heavily feature new ‘revelations’ from the soon-to-be-released book Looking for Madeleine, written by Pulitzer prize finalist Anthony Summers and his fourth wife, investigative journalist Robbyn Swan.

But as the ‘revelations’ revealed themselves to be facts in the public domain since at least 2009, former PJ police inspector Carlos Anjos has penned a damning article claiming the objective of the current Scotland Yard investigation into Madeleine’s seven-year disappearance has “never been to find out what happened to Maddie”.

Instead, he maintains, it has “always been to remove suspicions of the McCanns”.

Concentrating solely on facts, the only clear truth coming out of today’s stories is that the ‘revelations’ in Looking for Madeleine are “nothing new” - and that Sky news appears to be doing one heck of a PR job.

As a commentator who has followed the mystery closely since day one confided: “I doubt if Summers and Swan would call them revelations, but we´ll soon see”.

Looking for Madeleine is due to go on sale on Tuesday September 11, and certainly hundreds if not thousands of readers are eagerly waiting to read it.

A former British policeman told us today: “Will it address Gerry McCann’s change of story about his point of entry? Will it address Kate’s change of story about the curtains? Will it address their telling all the relatives that the shutters were smashed open? Will it give a coherent scenario which includes all the known facts? Will it address the dogs’ alerts over items associated with the McCanns and to no others?”

According to Amazon, “award-winning authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan have produced the first independent, objective account of the case” and have demonstrated that “speculation that the McCann’s played a role in their daughter’s fate” is unfounded.

Cataloguing the “string of sexual assaults and burglaries” that had been reported in the Algarve before Madeleine went missing, Anthony Summers is quoted by Sky News as suggesting Kate and Gerry McCann should have been warned by their tour operators Mark Warner Ltd when they checked in for their family holiday at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz at the end of April, 2007.

"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."

As the Sky news report repeats itself throughout the day, elsewhere in the Portuguese media Carlos Anjos, currently president of the Commission for the Protection of Victims of Crimes, writes at length on his theory that multi-million pound police investigation Operation Grange has always set out to clear the McCann parents of any suspicions in their daughter’s disappearance.

“One of the doubts that persist is understanding why the British police have insisted in repeating PJ police investigations, and have never tried to effect the only one the PJ did not do: the reconstruction”, he explains - stressing that the much-publicised BBC Crimewatch programme that purported to reconstruct the events leading up to Madeleine’s disappearance was a “travesty” of the facts.

Addressing the alerts to blood traces and cadaver odours in the family’s apartment thrown up by sniffer dogs Eddie and Keela in 2007, Anjos writes: “I believe that these two dogs, seven years on, are either dead, under lock and key, or have certainly been retired from police duty as a result of their work in Portugal”.

It is a sweeping statement, with apparently no proof to back it up.

Swan, in interview with Sky News, points out that cadaver dog alerts always require the back up of solid forensic evidence - which, in this case, has not been forthcoming.

In other words, today’s ‘revelations’ and media stories, both here and abroad, have just added to all the others swirling in the vortex of questions about what really happened to Madeleine McCann.

With no ‘light at the end of the tunnel’ likely as a result of Summers and Swan’s new book, there is nonetheless an apparent “positive note” in conclusion.

According to the Sky News report: “Quoting American statistics, it (the book) says that only 4% of missing children of Madeleine’s age are not located, and more than half of them - 56% - are recovered alive”.

Meanwhile, Carlos Anjos concludes his article in today’s Domingo supplement of Correio da Manhã with the only firm conviction of which he says he has “no doubt”:
“The English (police) will stop (their investigation) on the day in which the Portuguese authorities say: enough. And, on this day, the British police will say they did not discover what happened (to Madeleine) because the Portuguese authorities did not let them”.

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Post by jeanmonroe 10.09.14 13:32

According to the Sky News report: “Quoting American statistics, it (the book) says that only 4% of missing children of Madeleine’s age are not located, and more than half of them - 56% - are recovered alive”.
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Which sadly means that of the 96%, of children of Madeleine's age, that are 'recovered', 40% are 'recovered' sadly, dead.

WHERE are the 4% of the 'missing' children, NOT 'recovered?

In the rather now 'overcrowded' THIN AIR, as in 'just vanished into thin air'?

Remember this?

G. MCCANN: Yes, completely. And I think, you know, another thing, aspect about the book, I strongly believe a good reason for publishing it is putting these facts together about the sighting of the man carrying the child and the detail of that, as seen by our friend, Jane Turner (ph).IF Jane hadn't seen him, she (Madeleine) literally would have been plucked from thin air.

(Phew, how 'lucky' was that? That the McCanns 'friend' SAW it all 'happening'. IF she had NOT 'luckily' SEEN 'it' then there would be NO 'witness evidence' that an 'abduction' EVER took place, would there? So LUCKILY, for the McCanns, 'our' Jane SAW it ALL. PHEW!).

"she (Madeleine) LITERALLY WOULD would have BEEN plucked FROM thin air" Gerry?

"FROM" (thin air)?

If you 'pluck' something FROM 'thin air' than that something will be IN your possession.

Surely, Mr McCann, you should have said,, "she (Madeleine) LITERALLY WOULD have BEEN plucked INTO thin air"

But, "PLUCKED" into the 'thin air', by whom, i wonder?

thinking

just to add: But, Jane DID NOT SEE 'HIM' carrying Madeleine, did she, Gerry?
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Post by j.rob 11.09.14 12:00

Cataloguing the “string of sexual assaults and burglaries” that had been reported in the Algarve before Madeleine went missing, Anthony Summers is quoted by Sky News as suggesting Kate and Gerry McCann should have been warned by their tour operators Mark Warner Ltd when they checked in for their family holiday at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz at the end of April, 2007.

"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."



Kate writes about these alleged sexual assaults in her book, claiming that a former British consul knew about these and they were discussed at regular meetings with UK tour operators in the Algarve, wno wished to keep them quiet.


But where is the evidence for this? 


I think this is a cynical bit of spin to try to lay the blame on the 'abduction' of Madeleine on Mark Warner specifically and on other holiday companies generally. My theory is that the McCanns and their friends had been on Mark Warner type holidays before and were fully aware of the system of 'baby listening' whereby parents left babies and children sleeping in unlocked bedrooms while they had dinner in the hotel. Nannies would patrol the corridors listening for crying or disturbance and would go in and comfort the child or alert the parents if necessary. Kate writes about this system in her book. They and their friends knew that it was not operating in OC resort as it was too spread out. They were fully aware of all this.


I think that at some point in time the Mcs and their buddies would have had a jovial conversation along the lines of: if you wanted to abduct a child, you could take your pick if there was baby listening operating in the resort.  


The nannies cannot possibly be outside every door of every bedroom every moment. Hotels and resorts are not particularly secure environments, people come and go unchallenged all the time. There are often many entrances and exits to hotels not to mention balconies, rear patio doors (!) and so on.


I think that a little 'plan' was hatched on the back of all this. One that took advantage of the fact that most people, most parents, are trusting enough to believe that it is highly unlikely that anyone would 'steal' a child in this type of environment (as indeed, statistically, it is - as stated by Kate in her book). Most times, when a child 'disappears' in mysterious circumstances, it is something to do with family or friends  of people known to the child.


There is no indication whatsoever that the mysterious 'disappearance' of Madeleine does not fall into the statistical 'norm' for this type of crime. And in actual fact there is abundance evidence that what happened to Madeleine falls well within the statistical norm. I might even go further and say that it was a 'textbook' case. Not that I am any kind of criminologist. But a little bit of commonsense is guiding me.


"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?


What a pathetically nonsensical comment. Blatantly trying to divert any responsibility for what happened to Madeleine away from the obvious suspects. What sort of 'note' might this have been? A little laminated card on the dining room table, perhaps, rather like that one asking you not to smoke indoors or use the swimming pool after 7pm perhaps?

Along the lines of: 

Dear guest, please be aware that there have been a string of burglaries and sexual assaults on young children at UK tour operator resorts in the Algarve. The perpetrator/s are still at large, waiting to break into your holiday apartments and steal your valuables or your children, depending on value. Check insurance policies carefully to see if your valuables and children are covered. Please, if you go out at night and decide to leave your young children without any babysitter, make sure that you lock the apartment very carefully so the burglars and abductors can't get in. The management cannot be held responsible for valuables or children stolen from apartments which are unlocked. If in doubt, place valuables in the hotel safe and place children in the night creche. Or hire a babysitter as you would do at home, unless you wanted your children to be taken into care.


Have a lovely holiday!


The Management.




Makes you think, though, doesn't it? If the McCanns had had jewellery,cash and other 'valuables' stolen from the apartment, assuming they had insurance in place, would they have been covered given that the apartment was unlocked? 


And we know that a McCann relative reported that 'nothing of value' was stolen from the McCann apartment. 


"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."



Oh yes, I am sure the Mcs would lock up their valuables carefully and, in the event of a break in, would no doubt make a claim on their insurance policy. But when it comes to things that are not of  value allegedly being stolen, like a child or children, then what happens?

Oh, of course, silly me!

duh
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Post by Brian Griffin 11.09.14 12:47

I'm glad the Portuguese police are starting to get more vocal on a public scale. It looks like they know they are being set up to take the fall for failure of this case when all they had to do was persist with their investigation of the McCanns and their friends. I feel sad that our police are so dishonest. In my opinion.

Go Carlos!
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Post by aiyoyo 11.09.14 12:50

j.rob wrote:Cataloguing the “string of sexual assaults and burglaries” that had been reported in the Algarve before Madeleine went missing, Anthony Summers is quoted by Sky News as suggesting Kate and Gerry McCann should have been warned by their tour operators Mark Warner Ltd when they checked in for their family holiday at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz at the end of April, 2007.

"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."


duh

Everything? including their children, yeah right.

S&S have to get off whatever they are inhaling.
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Post by PeterMac 11.09.14 13:13

aiyoyo wrote:
"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."[/color]
duh
Everything? including their children, yeah right.
S&S have to get off whatever they are inhaling.  [/quote]

But we remember that Gerry initially tried to claim he had locked everything up.

Entered by the front door, USING HIS KEY. . .

Then a week later he changed it to fit what Kate had said.
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Post by jeanmonroe 11.09.14 13:14

"Had there been a warning note in the apartment, do we think the McCanns would have left the patio door unlocked on the night they went to the other side of the pool to have dinner away from their children?

"One would be tempted to think they would make sure everything was firmly locked up."
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The other THREE couples, that were in PDL, with the McCanns, did NOT, presumeably, have a 'warning note' in their apartments but they, apparently, made SURE 'everything WAS firmly LOCKED up,' in their apartments when they 'went to the other side of the pool to have dinner', AWAY from THEIR children.

The friends weren't 'tempted' to leave their apartments UNLOCKED, with their most 'valuable' possesssions, their children, left inside, were they?

The McCanns MADE a diliberate, and fully conscious, decision to leave their apartment unsecured and unlocked, when they went to dinner AWAY from their children.

Now WHY would the McCanns, solely, out of the four 'holidaying party' members, DO THAT?

WHY?

To 'falcilitate', (diliberately?), ENTRY for 'someone' to 'kick start' a pre-planned, (scam?) highly improbable, 'abduction' story?

Of course, when they LIED about the shutter and forced window, it was all 'downhill' from then, for them.

This 'adage' is as relevent today as it ever was: "You tell ONE LIE and you have to make up a THOUSAND LIES to cover that one LIE, you DARE not STOP"

The McCanns LIED...........just the ONCE (shutter and window) to 'start' with!

WHY did they LIE about the shutter?

Kate McCann phoned Jon C, in Liverpool, at 3am, 4th May 2007, and told him "the shutter was SMASHED" hours after it had been PROVEN, by OC manager and PJ, the shutter was NOT 'smashed'

But she still  insisted on TELLING Jon C about the 'broken, forced, smashed' shutter, which was the only way the 'abductor' COULD have gotten into, the childrens bedroom, which was blatantly a LIE!

And Jon C, and other McCann family 'members' repeated, ad nauseum, that blatant LIE, the very next day, to the world's media.

Of course when it was 'revealed' that the shutter was NOT 'jemmied or smashed' that fanciful 'tale' was 'changed' to "oh, er, um we left the patio door unlocked and that's how the 'abductor' must have got in'

The first crack had appeared in their (carefully crafted?) 'abduction' fable.

THAT was enough, for the British public to doubt ANYTHING that came out of their mouths after that LIE.

When they LIED about the 'circumstances' from the very, very, beginning, people, rightly, asked themselves, "if they LIED, as they DID, from the off, what ELSE have they LIED about since?"
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Post by j.rob 11.09.14 14:21

The other THREE couples, that were in PDL, with the McCanns, did NOT, presumeably, have a 'warning note' in their apartments but they, apparently, made SURE 'everything WAS firmly LOCKED up,' in their apartments when they 'went to the other side of the pool to have dinner', AWAY from THEIR children.

The friends weren't 'tempted' to leave their apartments UNLOCKED, with their most 'valuable' possesssions, their children, left inside, were they?

The McCanns MADE a diliberate, and fully conscious, decision to leave their apartment unsecured and unlocked, when they went to dinner AWAY from their children.

Now WHY would the McCanns, solely, out of the four 'holidaying party' members, DO THAT?

WHY?

To 'falcilitate', (diliberately?), ENTRY for 'someone' to 'kick start' a pre-planned, (scam?) highly improbable, 'abduction' story?

Of course, when they LIED about the shutter and forced window, it was all 'downhill' from then, for them.

This 'adage' is as relevent today as it ever was: "You tell ONE LIE and you have to make up a THOUSAND LIES to cover that one LIE, you DARE not STOP"

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Yes, you can pretty much guarantee that every assertion of 'truth' or 'fact' from TM is the opposite. At least they are consistent in this respect. I can see why GM might have been hoping to get into politics. He has all the right personal characteristics big grin

But did the Mc friends claim that they left their own children alone in the apartments but locked the doors, then?

I'm not sure if this is any better than leaving the children alone and not locking the doors, really.  As at least if the doors were unlocked in the event of an emergency such as a fire or accident/sickness an older child could get out and find the parents to warn them. And a (responsible) adult (although there do not appear to have been any of these around TM that holiday) could hear a distressed child and get into the apartment and deal with an emergency or give first aid etc. (Finding the parents also being an option, but when the parents are so neglectful that they leave three under fours alone without a babysitter then I am not sure it is a good option).

I wonder what the Tapas lot really did with regards to babysitting arrangements (apart from the Paynes who had a baby monitor plus Granny with them?) 

(I know some have suggested that all the children were in one room with one member babysitting but it is very difficult to get a group of babies/toddlers to sleep all together in one room.)

Although I can see why the McCanns subsequently made the claim about leaving the apartment unlocked. As obviously whoever was supposed to 'jemmy' the Mc shutters or 'fake' an 'abductor' break-in failed to carry out this part of the script, leaving the story in disarray. 

So, who was supposed to 'jemmy the shutters then? And why didn't they? 

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Cataloguing the “string of sexual assaults and burglaries” that had been reported in the Algarve before Madeleine went missing, Anthony Summers is quoted by Sky News as suggesting Kate and Gerry McCann should have been warned by their tour operators Mark Warner Ltd when they checked in for their family holiday at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz at the end of April, 2007.

So, given that it is on record from Kate's book,  and from Anthony Summers, and from the former British Consul  that there was a string of sexual assaults and burglaries in the Algarve before Madeleine disappeared. And given that the former British Consul had regular meetings with UK tour operators in the Algarve where this subject came up (as recorded by Kate in her book). And that the UK tour operators apparently wanted to keep these assaults and crimes quiet 'for obvious reasons' according to Kate. Then presumably as a major UK tour operator in the Algarve, Mark Warner representatives would have been at these regular meetings with the former British Consul. And would have known all about this string of sexual assaults on British children in holiday resorts?

Any comments on this from Mark Warner? Or the former British Consul? Or any other UK tour operators? Or the Portuguese police? Or the British police? Or the families of the children who were subjected to sexual assaults while on holiday in the Algarve? Or any evidence at all?

There have been, I believe, reports of burglaries from the Ocean Club and resorts/hotels in the area generally but - even if true (and it would be unlikely that there would be no burglaries as this is such a common crime especially in holiday resorts ) so what? Petty burglaries do not translate into child abduction/child trafficking/child abuse networks etc. It would take a remarkably bungling burglar to break into an apartment hoping to get cash and jewelry and come out, instead, with a four year old child. Or a remarkably far-sighted petty burglar who could see that, potentially, a four year old child could be more valuable than  a wallet, mobile phone and gold necklace. 
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Post by j.rob 11.09.14 14:53

HA! This made me laugh.
Perhaps Lorraine Kelly could be added to the list  big grin

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/t8088-the-best-british-journalists-reporting-about-madeleine-mccann-case
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Post by XTC 11.09.14 23:24

In my opinion there will be no " revelations!"

The book I think is just an opinion. Like many others.

No better than ours over the seven years.

If this book can add credible - new - information to the PJ's files then all well and good.

From the sounds of it this book is just speculation and I could say a mis -reading of the files.

The AG's filed a Final Summary within which they ( the Ag's ) said that all the players had a chance to enhance or build on the known evidence so far
and had the chance to exclude themselves completely. They all failed to do so. The reasons why are irrelevant. They didn't do it. Simple as that.


As for the forensic evidence ( or lack of it) do S&S not think it strange - despite the " premature " action by the PJ that the young girl in question has not even to this day has not been proven to have been in 5a in order to have been abducted? Accidentally or otherwise no trace of Madeleie has been found in 5a? In fact the only trace of the girl  has been  a 15/19/38 trace in the Renault Scenic ( a place where she should no have been). This is why every shred of the children's room should have been taken away and analysed that night.

Abductor or no abductor all concerned should have or should make sure that the person removed from 5a was in the apartment when the removal occurred. Otherwise it is not safe to assume that Madeleine " dis-appeared from 5a" She may have well been removed and met her fate from somewhere else.

These are British holidaymakers and in no way do I think they left any apartment open just because " it felt safe "

All opinion though.
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