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Post by palm tree 07.09.14 13:12

Well, never heard as much shet in my life, a surgical mask and laundry on his feet!!!! Sums that book up nicely for me. And apparently their parents where at home. This suspect took the time to pause and put on a surgical mask and wrapped both feet with laundry! What about gloves for fingerprints? That would be the first thing he should've done since he had the whit to cover his feet! Was this meant to be the suspect who had worn the bleeding obvious maroon top with the huge white target circle on the back? Oh please! Can't wait to hear new revelations from these two, and they didn't even interview the mcs! Should be great. Do these two not realise this is about a crime on a 3yr old child who hasn't been seen or heard off since? Makes me sick.
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Post by Boosey 07.09.14 13:27

Goodness I think I know who this man was. The description fits anyway - Lazarus!!
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Post by jeanmonroe 07.09.14 13:34

Markus 2 wrote:http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/507849/Madeleine-McCann-hunt-slowed-by-court-chaos I think the media has been reporting similar stories. Does not look like it is going anywhere soon.
“This all means that Maddie is taking a low priority because all the effort is going on keeping the courts running. There is also a new prosecutor in Portimao on the Algarve who is having to be fully briefed on scores of cases, including Madeleine’s, and that all takes time. Wonder who is briefing the new prosecutor.

Wonder who is briefing the new prosecutor?

Farter Cluck and Izzy 'no mates' Durate?
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Post by Guest 07.09.14 13:35

Monty Heck wrote:Woofer"]Do they think we're all stupid.

Have you ever heard of such a ridiculous BACKFILL excuse to explain away the fact that no stranger DNA was found in the apartment as :-

"What they noticed about this man was that he was wearing what seemed to be a surgical mask and he had wound laundry around his feet, seemingly to keep from making prints or leaving marks."


[Wonder whether he brought the laundry with him or had to locate/raid the laundry basket first. The few minutes the abductor would have had to commit the crime according to the timelines just became incredibly busier, since he surely would not have arrived in what seemed like a surgical mask and laundry wound around his feet. Even though the evening was quiet it was only 9.15 and it's on record that there were people around, none of whom reported seeing this  apparition.  Attempting to link the M disappearance to the case above seems tenuous and seriously flawed.

This is all so incredibly utterly stupid I want to scream.

This whole nonsense has a pink tinge.

These people KNOW this is stupid which will make them accessories when justice prevails.
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Post by margaret 07.09.14 14:05

Firstly, NO child ever wakes up and after seeing a stranger in their room asks if it was their daddy or uncle!

Secondly this bogus charity collector story - in 2007 he just called at the door, now in 2014 - seems to have grown legs into a man 'staring intently' at a child holding her mothers skirt. And coming back into the home wearing surgical masks and bags over his footwear??  titter

Please whoever made this story up just step back and take a break, whoever you are you are so wrapped up in bullsh!t you think the rest of us are going to swallow you're ever more LUDICROUS winkwink stories.

This is so bad it's hilarious, l mean come on. wft
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Post by Woofer 07.09.14 14:14

Boosey wrote:Goodness I think I know who this man was. The description fits anyway - Lazarus!!


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Post by Liz Eagles 07.09.14 14:18

Tomorrow's edition of the Sun should be even more 'interesting'

'Mistakes made in Maddie hunt'.
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Post by Silverspeed 07.09.14 14:22

So Summers and Swan claim to be the only journalists to have examined the many thousands of pages of the Portuguese police files and are clear that there is no evidence Gerry and Kate were guilty of wrongdoing. 'People who vilified them should set aside their prejudices and read the evidence before making up their minds.'

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What planet are these people on!  After reading the police files how anybody can say there is no evidence of any wrongdoing by the McCanns beggers belief!
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Post by TheTruthWillOut 07.09.14 14:32

Skim reading this thread and I have to ask why would respected authors publish such a ridiculous book?

None of the main players have talked to them which isn't really surprising when it is a on going investigation. I haven't read any of their previous books, but wouldn't believe anything written having now read the replies in this thread. Why would they risk this?

And I have to ask, are the dogs mentioned in any detail?
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Post by morse 07.09.14 14:35

That is just so ludicrous, stupid and ..... I am lost for words, but it certainly gave me a good laugh. Bring it on, the ridiculous stories are making them look guiltier by the day- but then I didn't believe a word they said from the first time I saw them on tv. Poor little Maddie, she certainly deserved better. RIP little one. IMO   spin spin
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Post by Naz_Nomad 07.09.14 14:36

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Post by Monty Heck 07.09.14 14:45

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Monty Heck wrote:Woofer"]Do they think we're all stupid.

Have you ever heard of such a ridiculous BACKFILL excuse to explain away the fact that no stranger DNA was found in the apartment as :-

"What they noticed about this man was that he was wearing what seemed to be a surgical mask and he had wound laundry around his feet, seemingly to keep from making prints or leaving marks."


[Wonder whether he brought the laundry with him or had to locate/raid the laundry basket first. The few minutes the abductor would have had to commit the crime according to the timelines just became incredibly busier, since he surely would not have arrived in what seemed like a surgical mask and laundry wound around his feet. Even though the evening was quiet it was only 9.15 and it's on record that there were people around, none of whom reported seeing this  apparition.  Attempting to link the M disappearance to the case above seems tenuous and seriously flawed.

This is all so incredibly utterly stupid I want to scream.

This whole nonsense has a pink tinge.

These people KNOW this is stupid which will make them accessories when justice prevails.

Yes, more than a whiff of a pink tinge. So the claim is that K & G were not interviewed for the book, but that's not to say there was no input via the wider Team. Like the precedents set in the days of the arguido announcements when PMcC and JM had plenty to say to the media regarding details of confidential, covered by judicial secrecy, investigative matters which should not have been disclosed. It is hard to see how this book would go ahead with no input from the Team and, if not, without being scanned for libel by their legal representatives (the claim is not only were they not interviewed, the McCs have not read the book).
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Post by Markus 2 07.09.14 14:58

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Post by PeterMac 07.09.14 15:09

So the instructions from TM and CM were clearly

! Ignore the shutters
2 Ignore the front door / patio door
3 Ignore the closed / open curtains
4 Ignore the lies
5 Ignore the non-existent Window of Opportunity
6 Ignore Smithman /-men
7 Try to disparage the dogs
8 Go for Spotty-Charity man
9 If in doubt bring in Laundry-feet-surgical-mask man from three years before

I want my money back !
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Post by LombardySkeptik 07.09.14 15:33

jeanmonroe wrote:
Woofer wrote:Do they think we're all stupid.

Have you ever heard of such a ridiculous BACKFILL excuse to explain away the fact that no stranger DNA was found in the apartment as :-

"What they noticed about this man was that he was wearing what seemed to be a surgical mask and he had wound laundry around his feet, seemingly to keep from making prints or leaving marks."

"IT WUZ THAT PREDATORY EGYPTIAN 'MUMMY' WOT DUNIT, INNIT GUV?"

"book the tax payer funded flights to Sharm el-Sheikh, boys. We'll go undercover, so bestest tourist disguise" says DCI Mahogany of OG.

"Actually my take is that this could be the first report of "Doctor-man" - this could be a real breakthrough

Does anyone know - have SY 'searched' for any doctors who may have been in the vicinity ?

of course I'm not a trained detective, but IMO, they should be interviewed i reckon,...erm.. as they could provide.....erm, you know,  useful information  erm.. to help find that...erm PJ clad angel...like erm, you know

In saying that, its well known that, when traveling in a group, doctors are so in to each other, that all observational skills are left back in the workplace, especially as, after all, it was their holiday too
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Post by Enid O'Dowd 07.09.14 15:36

PeterMac wrote:So the instructions from TM and CM were clearly

!  Ignore the shutters
2  Ignore the front door / patio door
3  Ignore the closed / open curtains
4  Ignore the lies
5  Ignore the non-existent Window of Opportunity
6  Ignore Smithman /-men
7  Try to disparage the dogs
8  Go for Spotty-Charity man
9  If in doubt bring in Laundry-feet-surgical-mask man from three years before

I want my money back !

Petermac, I think you have a strong case for getting your money back. If you need a solicitor to help you, there's a firm with a lot of knowledge of this mysterious case.......

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Post by PeterMac 07.09.14 15:46

Here it is. NOT an e-fit, but a real photo - honest.

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Post by MarleneP 07.09.14 15:58

Markus 2 wrote:Here we go! "Madeleine: Book Sheds Light On Mystery Predator" - Page 2 Efits2_2702171bAnything in the book about these two, the one that was actually seen carrying a child and not just lurking.

Sometimes I wonder if Gerry / Smithman was traveling with a twin to the doctor. Children stunned too tight?
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Post by Bishop Brennan 07.09.14 16:18

It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  

Published in the UK and with not even a hint or warning about libel; serialised in the press,and advertised on Sky.  Everyone will know about this definitive work.  This totally independent in depth review.  The Truth.  

And as authors not cops, they can say anything they like. So long as it's an abduction fantasy then nobody will contradict them. No matter how ridiculous the claim or story.  It suits SY, it suits the Mccanns, it suits the government. 

And so that would seem to be that.
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Post by Markus 2 07.09.14 16:52

Revealed: New boss of investigation into VIP child abuse claims is linked to Leon Brittan: The Mail On Sunday exposes family friendship of SECOND inquiry chief with the ex-MP accused of abuse file cover-up
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Post by Marnelakis 07.09.14 16:53

You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out....... So they would still have gone out then????
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.09.14 17:09

Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

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Post by Silverspeed 07.09.14 17:18

Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
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Post by Tony Bennett 07.09.14 17:22

Silverspeed wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
Silverspeed, I insist on accuracy.

The actual quote in Dr Kate McCann's book was 'WELL within the bounds of responsible parenting..."

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Silverspeed 07.09.14 17:27

Tony Bennett wrote:
Silverspeed wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
Marnelakis wrote:You couldn't make it up honestly!  Just saw the authors on Sky news saying that if Mark Warner had put a note in the apartment warning of recent sexual assaults on children then they would have made sure the doors were locked before they went out...So they would still have gone out then????
On their very own testimony in front of millions on TV, they admitted to going out AGAIN after BOTH Madeleine and Sean reported that they had been crying the night before.

In mitigation, Dr Gerald McCann claimed that they nearly didn't, though

All within the boundaries of responsible parenting of course.
Silverspeed, I insist on accuracy.

The actual quote in Dr Kate McCann's book was 'WELL within the bounds of responsible parenting..."

ooops  I stand corrected Tony.
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Post by TheTruthWillOut 07.09.14 17:31

Bishop Brennan wrote:It's becoming ever clearer that this is a major part of the End Game. When SY realised they would find not a shred of evidence of abduction or abductor, an alternative close was needed.   This is it.  This book is designed to completely replace the PJ shelving report.  It is the rewrite of history that had been predicted for a year or more.  

Published in the UK and with not even a hint or warning about libel; serialised in the press,and advertised on Sky.  Everyone will know about this definitive work.  This totally independent in depth review.  The Truth.  

And as authors not cops, they can say anything they like. So long as it's an abduction fantasy then nobody will contradict them. No matter how ridiculous the claim or story.  It suits SY, it suits the Mccanns, it suits the government. 

And so that would seem to be that.

I'm still not so sure SY are behind this as part of a whitewash. This book nor the Gamble story, AFAIK, has not been mentioned on the BBC? So there is still a tiny glimmer of hope.

There is this coming up on the 16th though (the McCanns are special guests!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04j5j8g
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Post by canada12 07.09.14 17:32

I look forward to the next case of child endangerment in the UK, when a mum arrested for leaving her child alone while she goes on the lash uses the defense, "But the police never warned me it was dangerous to do this. I claim complete ignorance. You can't arrest me. The McCanns said it was well within the bounds of responsible parenting!"
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Post by Marnelakis 07.09.14 17:49

canada12 wrote:I wonder if the authors didn't interview Kate and Gerry out of choice, or because Kate and Gerry declined to be interviewed.

I also wonder if the authors interviewed any of the Tapas friends.

I wonder if this will just be a rehash of available news stories, rewritten in the authors' own words and packaged up to look like original writing.

It'll be interesting to see if there are any new revelations that we haven't seen before.
Maybe they 'didn't interview' them in the same way Morton 'didn't interview' Diana?


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