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Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by The Rooster on Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:33 am

I think you could well be right Skeptik.  Some people seek attention none more so than the McCanns.  Maybe that was Murat's big mistake.

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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by j.rob on Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:37 pm

@sallypelt wrote:
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@sharonl wrote:Going slightly off topic here, but were we aware that Murat was a Jehova witness?

Ian CI: 139..., phone in the Mr Ian Cxxxxx's house ...in Exeter, "ansião" of the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Exeter with whom he maintains a close relationship because he had been his Bible teacher in Exeter;

1947 to 1956 Interrogation of arguido    Robert Murat 2007.07.10

I can remember reading that R Murat wasn't a Jehovah's Witness, but he "attended Jehovah's Witness classes". I will look to see if I can find the article.

Here it is:

He has since formed a relationship with a thirty-something German property saleswoman, Michaela Walczuch, who lives with her husband in nearby Lagos.


They have been described as lovers, but Murat denies this. "She's my partner, and we are very, very, very close - but she's not my girlfriend because she can't be. She's a Jehovah's Witness and she's still married. I'm not a Witness, but I attend study classes."


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459316/Madeleine-Is-Robert-Murat-suspect-scapegoat.html#ixzz3BZDRywC2


Then he goes on to marry her.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459316/Madeleine-Is-Robert-Murat-suspect-scapegoat.html

What planet is David Jones on?

What a heap of garbage. Are these journalists really thick? They just write total rubbish. Why is Murat's remark 'inappropriate'? 

Still, the fact that David Jones thinks that Max Clifford might be able to salvage his reputation (or not!) shows how distorted his thinking is.

The last line is positively vomit-inducing. Why, oh why did the Mcs get canonized? It's just extraordinary.

IMO

Later, when protesting his innocence, Murat made another wholly inappropriate remark.

"It might sound harsh, but if anyone has broken the law, then the McCanns have," he said, frowning behind the thick-lensed glasses he has worn since a motorcycle accident cost him the sight of an eye.

"Portuguese law says that you can't leave young children unattended. They say they were eating in the complex (the Ocean Club, where the family were holidaying). But actually the apartment is outside, across an alley. So, I'm sorry, but they broke the law.

"I would never leave my daughter (Sofia, who lives with his estranged wife, in Norfolk). I won't let her out of my sight because she gets up at night and walks off.
"That said, I wouldn't criticise them because children are different, and only they know how their kids behave."
Listening to Murat talk in this manner, one wonders whether even the PR guru Max Clifford - who has offered his services to him, if and when he is cleared - can salvage his reputation.

But whatever we make of Murat, one thing is plain: he inhabits such a different world from the McCanns - caring parents, brilliant medical professionals, devout Roman Catholics.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459316/Madeleine-Is-Robert-Murat-suspect-scapegoat.html#ixzz3BaxKqsK7 
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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by j.rob on Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:30 pm

Obviously sold his soul to the devil. I suppose with four children he needs all the money he can get. He must know. Probably a lot, if, as he claims, he became 'obsessed' with the case.

I used to work as a journalist for some of those crappy newspapers. Some days you would literally have journalists sitting around you tapping on keyboards chanting: 'crap, crap, crap, crap, crap!! as they churned out the latest garbage. 

Pathetic.

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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by sharonl on Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:19 am

Just found this in the PJ files

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ROBERT-MURAT.htm

995 -1001 Further background information on Robert Murat


This individual, voluntarily, went to the GNR post alleging that he was an interpreter of the English language, and could be useful in helping to realise diligences. He was directed to the elements of this police which were at the locale. Right on this day and on the following days, he helped in various diligences realised by this police, namely in the inquires of the British functionaries of the LOC.

At this point in time we noted immediately a strange comportment, especially with the press/media, alleging that he did not want to be photographed, or to make allusions to this presence.

We stress that at this time, we were contacted by various journalists, who alleged that they had noticed his strange comportment, and that he showed himself to be extremely curious. When they tired to capture his picture, he repudiated this vehemently, alleging that he was father to a little girl, the same age as Madeleine and was in the middle of a divorce.

Confronted with this incoherent comportment, Robert Murat, showed much nervousness and offered to stop providing services, if that was our desire.

For the investigative strategy, in order to better control and collect relevant elements, we opted to continue to use his services. Also via communication with the Leicester police authorities, the locale where the McCann family lives in the U.K., we were informed that an English reporter had suspicions regarding Robert, for the reason of his evasive comportment when she tried to take his picture and from a telephone call, which he said was to his daughter, making it in a loud voice, as if he wanted to demonstrate something

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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by Lance De Boils on Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:53 pm

Anyone here in direct contact with GA?

If so, perhaps they could ask him more about RM's 'appointment' - whether he'd worked for the PJ before, whether they checked out his credentials, incl. with UK police, etc? Who authorised him to be present as a translator? Do the PJ have their own 'batch' of translators and if so, why use RM?

I think these questions might shed some light on where RM 'sprang' from.
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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by cloak'ndagger on Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:00 am

@LombardySkeptik wrote:In my view RM was not actively involved in any of this - though perhaps he is not an entirely innocent law abiding chap (hence his subsequent contradictory statements and behaviour) 

Has anyone considered that RM was just himself suspicious about the McCanns from the very beginning and just rather clumsily got himself too involved - and thereafter attracting the interest of Team McCann/MSM for their own obvious reasons
 Spot on . Robert Murat is an effusive type of guy ...overly anxious to impress and as Kate said would be the type who would have been likely to have been bullied at school.

I would imagine that he offered his services as interpreter because he was on the spot. I cannot recall reading that he was working in an official capacity

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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by palm tree on Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:10 am

@cloak'ndagger wrote:
@LombardySkeptik wrote:In my view RM was not actively involved in any of this - though perhaps he is not an entirely innocent law abiding chap (hence his subsequent contradictory statements and behaviour) 

Has anyone considered that RM was just himself suspicious about the McCanns from the very beginning and just rather clumsily got himself too involved - and thereafter attracting the interest of Team McCann/MSM for their own obvious reasons
 Spot on . Robert Murat is an effusive type of guy ...overly anxious to impress and as Kate said would be the type who would have been likely to have been bullied at school.

I would imagine that he offered his services as interpreter because he was on the spot. I cannot recall reading that he was working in an official capacity
And wasn't it a sky news reporter who reported him in the first place?
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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by sami on Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:20 am

@palm tree wrote:
@cloak'ndagger wrote:
@LombardySkeptik wrote:In my view RM was not actively involved in any of this - though perhaps he is not an entirely innocent law abiding chap (hence his subsequent contradictory statements and behaviour) 

Has anyone considered that RM was just himself suspicious about the McCanns from the very beginning and just rather clumsily got himself too involved - and thereafter attracting the interest of Team McCann/MSM for their own obvious reasons
 Spot on . Robert Murat is an effusive type of guy ...overly anxious to impress and as Kate said would be the type who would have been likely to have been bullied at school.

I would imagine that he offered his services as interpreter because he was on the spot. I cannot recall reading that he was working in an official capacity
And wasn't it a sky news reporter who reported him in the first place?


I believe it was Lori Campbell a Sunday Mirror Journalist.

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Post by palm tree on Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:41 am

@sami wrote:
@palm tree wrote:
@cloak'ndagger wrote:
@LombardySkeptik wrote:In my view RM was not actively involved in any of this - though perhaps he is not an entirely innocent law abiding chap (hence his subsequent contradictory statements and behaviour) 

Has anyone considered that RM was just himself suspicious about the McCanns from the very beginning and just rather clumsily got himself too involved - and thereafter attracting the interest of Team McCann/MSM for their own obvious reasons
 Spot on . Robert Murat is an effusive type of guy ...overly anxious to impress and as Kate said would be the type who would have been likely to have been bullied at school.

I would imagine that he offered his services as interpreter because he was on the spot. I cannot recall reading that he was working in an official capacity
And wasn't it a sky news reporter who reported him in the first place?


I believe it was Lori Campbell a Sunday Mirror Journalist.
Oh sorry Sami, the red tops, never do print lies lol!
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Re: Under what circumstances did Robert Murat secure the job of interpreter in the McCann case?

Post by cloak'ndagger on Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:12 pm

@palm tree wrote:
@sami wrote:
@palm tree wrote:
@cloak'ndagger wrote:
@LombardySkeptik wrote:In my view RM was not actively involved in any of this - though perhaps he is not an entirely innocent law abiding chap (hence his subsequent contradictory statements and behaviour) 

Has anyone considered that RM was just himself suspicious about the McCanns from the very beginning and just rather clumsily got himself too involved - and thereafter attracting the interest of Team McCann/MSM for their own obvious reasons
 Spot on . Robert Murat is an effusive type of guy ...overly anxious to impress and as Kate said would be the type who would have been likely to have been bullied at school.

I would imagine that he offered his services as interpreter because he was on the spot. I cannot recall reading that he was working in an official capacity
And wasn't it a sky news reporter who reported him in the first place?


I believe it was Lori Campbell a Sunday Mirror Journalist.
Oh sorry Sami, the red tops, never do print lies lol!
Video of Lori Campbell here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMRexGaZG5Y

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