'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
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Summers' and Swan's book - the 'definitive' account of the Madeleine McCann case?
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Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
So it is just the authors subjective view, nothing else.
Quite right aiyoyo, although I hope the authors take into account the danger to Madeleine with the promotion of her eye defect which has been called a coloboma by her father and a bit of a fleck by her mother. Perhaps the authors consider this high risk and potentially lethal strategy well within the bounds of reasonable marketing. Madeleine's father does.
There's no need to speculate on the role the McCanns played in Madeleine's fete though. What with good quality wristbands and a host of products in an online store (paid for by the general public) and a media spokesperson advocating sending money in an envelope to Rothley (it'll get there).
So it is just the authors subjective view, nothing else.
Quite right aiyoyo, although I hope the authors take into account the danger to Madeleine with the promotion of her eye defect which has been called a coloboma by her father and a bit of a fleck by her mother. Perhaps the authors consider this high risk and potentially lethal strategy well within the bounds of reasonable marketing. Madeleine's father does.
There's no need to speculate on the role the McCanns played in Madeleine's fete though. What with good quality wristbands and a host of products in an online store (paid for by the general public) and a media spokesperson advocating sending money in an envelope to Rothley (it'll get there).
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
Imo the purpose of the book is to exonerate the McCanns. There is no ambiguity in the blurb:aiyoyo wrote:
Thanks Angelique for the link. It's a short piece so I thought I will post it upSATURDAY, JULY 26, 2014
Why I knew Anthony Summers' Book on the Madeleine McCann Case would be Pro-McCann
I tossed out a short bit recently on Facebook and Twitter about how I was pretty sure Anthony Summers' upcoming book Looking for Madeleine due out in September would be a very pro-McCann book and I heard back from some that they held out hope that the book would bring out the facts and not be another whitewash of the evidence. I didn't explain in depth exactly why I thought this book was going to be one more nail in the coffin in the fight for truth and justice - for Madeleine McCann, Gonçalo Amaral, and everyone who has stuck their neck out - why I thought that this was yet another sign of the end days for this sad case which I predict will have Scotland Yard not far behind with their own final whitewash.
Here is why I profiled Mr. Summers and his book (co-authored with his wife, Robbyn Swan) as a pro-McCann piece of propaganda and not at all a well-researched and even-handed book on the case.
1) Mr. Summers emailed me for permission to use some quotes from my blogs in his book. The quotes were the kind that could easily be used out of context to show me as a conspiracy nut.
2) If Mr. Summers was truly doing in-depth research on the case and "in-depth interviews" as is claimed in this Amazon blurb, why did he never do an in-depth interview with me? I am not trying to say I am vastly important and how dare he ignore me, but I would think any author worth their salt would interview a well-known profiler who has written numerous blogs on the case, who has written a book that was Carter-rucked by the McCanns, and who has actually gone to Portugal to "look for Madeleine." But, no, he only emailed me just before the final copy went to print to ask me about a few quotes.
3) He interviewed some McCanns (not sure which ones).
4) He didn't interview Gonçalo Amaral.
5) He got a big publisher and his book is being published in the UK. If that isn't enough of a red flag, you are bloody well blind! Read: No fear of being Carter-Rucked!
6) What interesting timing......
Anyway, I asked Mr. Summers a few questions and he refused to give me a straight answer. I had the sickening feeling my suspicions were going to be well-founded.
And today I read the description of the book at Amazon.co. uk. There was the proof I profiled him and his book correctly.
Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
Sadly, I think this book is going to get a lot of positive media attention. The man and his wife can write and their skill is going to convince people who read the book that the McCanns are innocent and an abduction actually happened. He is touting the party line and the McCanns will surely back the book as, finally, they have "award-winning authors Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan" producing "the first independent, objective account of the case."
My foot.
Criminal Profiler Pat Brown
July 26, 2014
Says there he has interviewed some Mccanns; that tells you it can only be a pro-mcs and probably endorsed by the Mccanns. It would be interesting to see whether he dedicates front page to Mccanns to have their foreword.
Won't surprise me if he rides on the back of Mccanns name to attract readers.
Maddie's case has been done to death in the media, with also quite a few books by varies authors already in the market. What makes him believed his book is going to attract the numbers, unless he's the full endorsement of Mccanns, making his book the only one writte with mccanns endorsement in the market.
In a nutshell, he's only the extended mouth of Kate telling Kate's story.
Terming it as objective account isn't accurate when only one side (the mccanns side) is interviewed.
How can a one-sided thing be called objective?
He should, at the very least interview, Amaral and even PeterMac to get an insight into the working of investigations then only he can quantify his objectiveness.
"The Portuguese police probe ran into a dead end. Parents Gerry and Kate McCann, however, have never given up the search for Madeleine. They blitzed the media, hired private detectives, kept the case in the public eye. Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded".
We just have to wait and see how they go about demonstrating their 'thesis'.
I agree with Pat Brown; it will be strictly pro-McCann and imo - as I believe PB has previously speculated - there's a strong likelihood it's been commissioned (Team McCann or ally). Clarence Mitchell won't be making his usual statement to the press castigating the authors for "profiting from the tragedy of a child". On the contrary, the book will be hailed as helping 'the search' find that missing piece of the jigsaw and the elusive key. And of course a, 'told you so' to the doubters, something Kate McCann's book failed to do.
The publication of Kate McCann's book was timed to coincide with David Cameron's announcement of a review and enabled her to get her 'version of the truth' in before the review began. The authors have chosen to publish their 'version of the truth' at a time when there are two on-going criminal investigations - UK and Portugal - into Madeleine's disappearance, as well as a libel trial in Portugal. That's no coincidence. Imo the publication is timed to coincide with the end of the investigation and the libel trial.
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
They more than played a role in her fate, they were responsible for her disappearance, they left her alone then didn't bother to search during the critical hours.
Marketing her eye defect can be considered played a role in their daughter's fate because that endangers her. If there was an abductor he would have to kill her because of her parents stupid behaviour.
Marketing her eye defect can be considered played a role in their daughter's fate because that endangers her. If there was an abductor he would have to kill her because of her parents stupid behaviour.
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tasprin wrote:. Imo the publication is timed to coincide with the end of the investigation and the libel trial.
Post expensive digs with all the gears, logistics and resources, it would be foolish to expect readers to buy the story Madeleine may still be alive and her parents played no part in her fate blah blah blah.
It may be a case of Publisher having paid them an advance and felt it wise to release ahead of the Libel verdict in case the verdict spoils the circulation hence profit.
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Hmm, IMO they must believe Eddie and Keela are unreliable too. Oh, not just one spot, several, and all related to the mcs and no one else, oh yes, one piece of clothing belonging to one of their holidaying friend which was printed and whooshed as fast as lighting. Now, how could that be? IMO
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Looks to me like just another couple of people out to make money of the back of a poor missing child. so so sad
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
I am waiting to see if they spell out the scenario
Each book has a special holder in the spine, in which is a pencil.
"St Katherine went into the children's bedroom.
There she saw at once that the curtains were wide open / tight closed (Please now take the pencil provided, and delete whichever you do not agree with)
As she stood still in absolute horror / charged round the apartment (delete whichever you do not agree with)
the door slammed / did not slam (delete whichever you do not agree with)
The curtains then whooshed up in a second sudden Force 5 breeze / remained firmly tucked behind the bed and wicker chair - see photo (delete whichever you do not agree with)
You may end up with a "Version of the Truth" but it may be totally different from St Katherine's version.
The above gives 16 possible scenarios already
Each book has a special holder in the spine, in which is a pencil.
"St Katherine went into the children's bedroom.
There she saw at once that the curtains were wide open / tight closed (Please now take the pencil provided, and delete whichever you do not agree with)
As she stood still in absolute horror / charged round the apartment (delete whichever you do not agree with)
the door slammed / did not slam (delete whichever you do not agree with)
The curtains then whooshed up in a second sudden Force 5 breeze / remained firmly tucked behind the bed and wicker chair - see photo (delete whichever you do not agree with)
You may end up with a "Version of the Truth" but it may be totally different from St Katherine's version.
The above gives 16 possible scenarios already
Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
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So, presumeably, the authors HAVE 'demonstrated' to the 38 strong, solely dedicated, elite, experienced, dectectives at Operation Strange that the McCanns did NOT 'play a role' in their daughter's 'fate' and that 'speculation' that they did, is totally 'unfounded'.
And also, presumeably, DCI Redwood would also like to know, how the 'author' can 'demostrate' to him and the 'team' the unfounded speculation that the McCanns were not 'involved' in their daughter's 'disappearance' despite there being absolutely no 'evidence' to eliminate them from 'involvement'
Unless, of course, the McCanns have only TOLD the 'author' they weren't 'involved'!
Now, THAT'S a whole, different 'story'!
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So, presumeably, the authors HAVE 'demonstrated' to the 38 strong, solely dedicated, elite, experienced, dectectives at Operation Strange that the McCanns did NOT 'play a role' in their daughter's 'fate' and that 'speculation' that they did, is totally 'unfounded'.
And also, presumeably, DCI Redwood would also like to know, how the 'author' can 'demostrate' to him and the 'team' the unfounded speculation that the McCanns were not 'involved' in their daughter's 'disappearance' despite there being absolutely no 'evidence' to eliminate them from 'involvement'
Unless, of course, the McCanns have only TOLD the 'author' they weren't 'involved'!
Now, THAT'S a whole, different 'story'!
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Ms Martorell at Tony's contempt of court trial admitted she hadn't read Kate's bewk. Martorell admitted in open court she was told it was abduction by her clients the McCanns.jeanmonroe wrote:Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
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So, presumeably, the authors HAVE 'demonstrated' to the 38 strong, solely dedicated, elite, experienced, dectectives at Operation Strange that the McCanns did NOT 'play a role' in their daughter's 'fate' and that 'speculation' that they did, is totally 'unfounded'.
And also, presumeably, DCI Redwood would also like to know, how the 'author' can 'demostrate' to him and the 'team' the unfounded speculation that the McCanns were not 'involved' in their daughter's 'disappearance' despite there being absolutely no 'evidence' to eliminate them from 'involvement'
Unless, of course, the McCanns have only TOLD the 'author' they weren't 'involved'!
Now, THAT'S a whole, different 'story'!
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I wonder how many of the Carter Ruck team have read Goncalo Amaral's book?
I doubt Carter Ruck need to bother their heads with reading this latest pro McCann stuff....just as they didn't need to read 'madeleine by KATE MCCANN'
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I wonder how many of the Carter Ruck team have read Goncalo Amaral's book?
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HERE'S ONE WHO DIDN'T!
"She, Isabel Martorell, also admits, in the High Court, that she has NOT READ Mr Amaral’s book “The Truth of the Lie.”
(I imagine the McCanns TOLD her what was in it, and she unswervingly BELIEVED them, no questions asked! )
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HERE'S ONE WHO DIDN'T!
"She, Isabel Martorell, also admits, in the High Court, that she has NOT READ Mr Amaral’s book “The Truth of the Lie.”
(I imagine the McCanns TOLD her what was in it, and she unswervingly BELIEVED them, no questions asked! )
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PeterMac wrote:I am waiting to see if they spell out the scenario
Each book has a special holder in the spine, in which is a pencil.
"St Katherine went into the children's bedroom.
There she saw at once that the curtains were wide open / tight closed (Please now take the pencil provided, and delete whichever you do not agree with)
As she stood still in absolute horror / charged round the apartment (delete whichever you do not agree with)
the door slammed / did not slam (delete whichever you do not agree with)
The curtains then whooshed up in a second sudden Force 5 breeze / remained firmly tucked behind the bed and wicker chair - see photo (delete whichever you do not agree with)
You may end up with a "Version of the Truth" but it may be totally different from St Katherine's version.
The above gives 16 possible scenarios already
Of course they won't have a clue on the truth of the matter because their book is based on hear say.
They heard mcs version of the truth (likely directly from the horses' mouth), and that is good enough for them.
Mr & Mrs Summers write book to make money.
Had they written it any other way, critical or skeptical of the mcs, no publisher will touch it.
Plus they know they risk being sued.
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aiyoyo wrote:PeterMac wrote:I am waiting to see if they spell out the scenario
Each book has a special holder in the spine, in which is a pencil.
"St Katherine went into the children's bedroom.
There she saw at once that the curtains were wide open / tight closed (Please now take the pencil provided, and delete whichever you do not agree with)
As she stood still in absolute horror / charged round the apartment (delete whichever you do not agree with)
the door slammed / did not slam (delete whichever you do not agree with)
The curtains then whooshed up in a second sudden Force 5 breeze / remained firmly tucked behind the bed and wicker chair - see photo (delete whichever you do not agree with)
You may end up with a "Version of the Truth" but it may be totally different from St Katherine's version.
The above gives 16 possible scenarios already
Of course they won't have a clue on the truth of the matter because their book is based on hear say.
They heard mcs version of the truth (likely directly from the horses' mouth), and that is good enough for them.
Mr & Mrs Summers write book to make money.
Had they written it any other way, critical or skeptical of the mcs, no publisher will touch it.
Plus they know they risk being sued.
That's a great idea PM! A multiple choice book which will have different endings. At last the Interactive Truth Game!
It reminds me of an RI exam as taught in certain schools:
Question 1: Jesus was born in:
Bethlehem. 3%
Catford. (The location of the school). 90%
Egypt 7%
True story btw.
The distance between the Tapas Bar and 5a was:
49.5 meters
2 miles
Five steps (largish)
102 yards
3 leagues
A nautical mile
None (space time continuum)
Back garden average (N. England)
Etc. on the basis of the 16 curtain variables and assuming that no more than 16 variations on a given subject will occur, a prize could be given for the narrative with the least number of contradictions.
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PeterMac wrote:I am waiting to see if they spell out the scenario
Each book has a special holder in the spine, in which is a pencil.
"St Katherine went into the children's bedroom.
There she saw at once that the curtains were wide open / tight closed (Please now take the pencil provided, and delete whichever you do not agree with)
As she stood still in absolute horror / charged round the apartment (delete whichever you do not agree with)
the door slammed / did not slam (delete whichever you do not agree with)
The curtains then whooshed up in a second sudden Force 5 breeze / remained firmly tucked behind the bed and wicker chair - see photo (delete whichever you do not agree with)
You may end up with a "Version of the Truth" but it may be totally different from St Katherine's version.
The above gives 16 possible scenarios already
If Swan & Summers are intent on exonerating the McCanns, their tome may prove to be as useful to the prosecution as Exhibit KH1, PeterM
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Enormous fun - thank you I needed to laugh just then
A prize could be offered - perhaps a free pass at a chosen Creche?
Enormous fun - thank you I needed to laugh just then
A prize could be offered - perhaps a free pass at a chosen Creche?
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Well quite.ultimaThule wrote:
If Swan & Summers are intent on exonerating the McCanns, their tome may prove to be as useful to the prosecution as Exhibit KH1, PeterM
I wonder if TM have considered that possibility.
Also that "Fair Comment" on the book has to be allowed, (see below) which therefore involves people being able to say things publicly which under other (C-R) circumstances they might have been reticent about doing.
Stirring a hornets nest ?
Turning over cans of worms ?
I have to say I do not think they are being well advised by their various lawyers. Nor by Mitchell.
Diplock J in Silkin v. Beaverbrook Newspapers Ltd. and Another [1958] 1 WLR 743, Tab 5, at 749:
“Would a fair-minded man holding strong views, obstinate views, prejudiced views, have been capable of making this comment? If the answer to that is yes, then your verdict in this case should be a verdict for the defendants. …
(Incidentally I was once served sandwiches by Diplock LJ. Tiny little man with a massive intellect.)
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MRNOODLES wrote:http://www.fishpond.co.uk/Books/Looking-for-Madeleine-Anthony-Summers-Robbyn-Swan/9781472211606
Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
I had high hopes for this book because I've read other Anthony Summers books and found them to be full of facts and in the case of Marilyn Monroe's quite controversial. His was the first book (l believe) to state that Marilyn was taken earlier the night she died to a hospital and had her stomach pumped, he had even found and interviewed the ambulance attendant(s) - now this information seems to be now taken as fact as l have seen it mentioned recently in an 'Autopsy' programme.
I did vote 3 but if the vote could be changed to 5 that would be great.
It seems Anthony Summers has sold his reputation out for money. Although, the book is called 'the search for Madeleine' and it's not billed to be an investigation into the facts surrounding the case. Clever.
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I'd love the book to be like an "adventure game book" Used to love them,
Do you:
A: Admit what happened and take the wrap? [Turn to page 73]
B: Carry out a dastardly series of deceits to full the "Great British Public" [ Turn to page 224]
C: Try to entrap a dead p*file [ Turn to page 180]
D: Carry with the charade on hoping it will all blow over
[ Roll a six sided dice - If you roll a 1-3 the media, public, judiciary and police are fooled! Well done, a career in the media as charity ambassador awaits!
Roll a 4-6 and you fail! A cold jail cell at Her Majesty's Pleasure awaits]
Do you:
A: Admit what happened and take the wrap? [Turn to page 73]
B: Carry out a dastardly series of deceits to full the "Great British Public" [ Turn to page 224]
C: Try to entrap a dead p*file [ Turn to page 180]
D: Carry with the charade on hoping it will all blow over
[ Roll a six sided dice - If you roll a 1-3 the media, public, judiciary and police are fooled! Well done, a career in the media as charity ambassador awaits!
Roll a 4-6 and you fail! A cold jail cell at Her Majesty's Pleasure awaits]
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
Speculation that the McCanns played a role in their daughter's fate, the authors demonstrate, is unfounded.
I don't suppose this could be a trick of sentence construction, designed to make us believe, at first glance, that the authors are demonstrating that the idea that the McCanns played a role in Madeleine's fate is unfounded.
If you look at the sentence again, what it actually says is that the "speculation" is unfounded.
In other words, the act of speculating is unfounded. The authors may very well have come to a solid conclusion, as opposed to a speculation, and the solid conclusion may be just the opposite of what they're stating the speculation might be.
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In other words, the act of speculating is unfounded. The authors may very well have come to a solid conclusion, as opposed to a speculation, and the solid conclusion may be just the opposite of what they're stating the speculation might be.
I think you may be committing the offence of attributing more intelligence and intellectual acumen and wit to the authors then they may deserve !
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PeterMac wrote:canada12 wrote:
In other words, the act of speculating is unfounded. The authors may very well have come to a solid conclusion, as opposed to a speculation, and the solid conclusion may be just the opposite of what they're stating the speculation might be.
I think you may be committing the offence of attributing more intelligence and intellectual acumen and wit to the authors then they may deserve !
Damn. Just trying to be optimistic.
To hell with that idea then. :-)
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awww bless you canada12.canada12 wrote:PeterMac wrote:canada12 wrote:
In other words, the act of speculating is unfounded. The authors may very well have come to a solid conclusion, as opposed to a speculation, and the solid conclusion may be just the opposite of what they're stating the speculation might be.
I think you may be committing the offence of attributing more intelligence and intellectual acumen and wit to the authors then they may deserve !
Damn. Just trying to be optimistic.
To hell with that idea then. :-)
It's a bit like hoping the bewk 'madeleine by KATE MCCANN' would be about Madeleine.
PeterMac has some interesting statistics on wordcount in the bewk.
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The point I would like to make is that this (Summers) is the first author of any real substance to tackle the story...
Isn't that in itself amazing? - after 7 years.
This is the biggest ever crime story in the UK, and has all the elements of mystery and human tragedy that a reader might want. In other words, any truly definitive account could earn tens of millions of pounds across the world. Publishers are not known for holding back in such circumstances.
So why 7 years later have we seen no book?
I feel sure lots of well known writers have considered the project and then rejected it, reluctantly in many cases no doubt - but not because they are fans of the McCanns.
Isn't that in itself amazing? - after 7 years.
This is the biggest ever crime story in the UK, and has all the elements of mystery and human tragedy that a reader might want. In other words, any truly definitive account could earn tens of millions of pounds across the world. Publishers are not known for holding back in such circumstances.
So why 7 years later have we seen no book?
I feel sure lots of well known writers have considered the project and then rejected it, reluctantly in many cases no doubt - but not because they are fans of the McCanns.
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aquila wrote:awww bless you canada12.canada12 wrote:PeterMac wrote:canada12 wrote:
In other words, the act of speculating is unfounded. The authors may very well have come to a solid conclusion, as opposed to a speculation, and the solid conclusion may be just the opposite of what they're stating the speculation might be.
I think you may be committing the offence of attributing more intelligence and intellectual acumen and wit to the authors then they may deserve !
Damn. Just trying to be optimistic.
To hell with that idea then. :-)
It's a bit like hoping the bewk 'madeleine by KATE MCCANN' would be about Madeleine.
PeterMac has some interesting statistics on wordcount in the bewk.
We shall see whether S&S's bewk is going to mention Kate more times than Madeleine even though the bewk is titled "Search for Madeleine".
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tigger wrote:From Wiki:
Summers became the BBC's youngest producer at 24, ..........
Before moving on from the BBC, Summers became an Assistant Editor of the prestigious weekly programme Panorama.
Long based in Ireland, he has since the mid-70s concentrated on investigative non-fiction, usually taking from four to five years to produce a book – conducting in-depth research, combining digging in the documentary record with exhaustive interviewing.[6][7]
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BBC? Panorama? That might explain his interest.
That begs the question: was his interest in this particular case because of his association to BBC or because of connection to associate colleagues?
If he keeps true to his habit of spending 4-5 years of investigative in-depth research and interviews then it would mean the book has been in the making for some years now before going into print.
It would be of interest for his readers to know what documentary records/archive he used, from where or from who he obtained translated version, who and how many people he interviewed, nr of times he interviewed them.
Did he interview investigators?
Did he interview other witnesses at the resort, hol. group T7, and other peripheral characters associated to the incident.
Did he interview M3, Kevin Halligen, Dave Edgar etc?
Did he interview Clarence Mitchell?
Not that he's going to get to the truth, except exhausting interviewing reported as being his style should mean comprising a variety of people.
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aiyoyo wrote:tigger wrote:From Wiki:
Summers became the BBC's youngest producer at 24, ..........
Before moving on from the BBC, Summers became an Assistant Editor of the prestigious weekly programme Panorama.
Long based in Ireland, he has since the mid-70s concentrated on investigative non-fiction, usually taking from four to five years to produce a book – conducting in-depth research, combining digging in the documentary record with exhaustive interviewing.[6][7]
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BBC? Panorama? That might explain his interest.
That begs the question: was his interest in this particular case because of his association to BBC or because of connection to associate colleagues?
If he keeps true to his habit of spending 4-5 years of investigative in-depth research and interviews then it would mean the book has been in the making for some years now before going into print.
It would be of interest for his readers to know what documentary records/archive he used, from where or from who he obtained translated version, who and how many people he interviewed, nr of times he interviewed them.
Did he interview investigators?
Did he interview other witnesses at the resort, hol. group T7, and other peripheral characters associated to the incident.
Did he interview M3, Kevin Halligen, Dave Edgar etc?
Did he interview Clarence Mitchell?
Not that he's going to get to the truth, except exhausting interviewing reported as being his style should mean comprising a variety of people.
So we need to define 'exhaustive interviewing' :
Three months before the announcement of the publication we now know of two emails to resp. Pat Brown and TB.
Which I wouldn't class as interviewing, never mind exhaustive.
This husband and wife team, (Summers certainly seems to exhaust his supply of wives as Swan is nr. 4) strike me as defining research by using all previously published material, picking out the odd point/rumour and presenting it as new insights or new facts.
Case in point the Monroe book. i've read several versions of what happened long ago. Same MO in 9/11, 37 pages nobody has ever seen.
I predict endless rehashing of well known facts, other facts ignored and the same MO as their other work.
It's hardly surprising this book is ready to go now that the libel trial in Lisbon is to conclude this year. Just as well to have your innocence proclaimed in a new book, written by these searchers for truth and justice just asyour reputation takes a dive in some backward country.
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
The list of questions is interesting, since they obviously knew the answers.tigger wrote:
So we need to define 'exhaustive interviewing' :
Three months before the announcement of the publication we now know of two emails to resp. Pat Brown and TB.
Which I wouldn't class as interviewing, never mind exhaustive.
Were they merely trying to entrap TB ?
Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
That thought crossed my mind when I first looked at the list of questions, PeterMac. I had to be very very careful with my answers. I gave them all reasonable assistance so, if I am mentioned by name in the book, they have my answers, which are on the record.PeterMac wrote:The list of questions is interesting, since they obviously knew the answers.
Were they merely trying to entrap TB?
They purported to be journalists genuinely researching a story.
Clearly they were not; by the time they contacted me, they had obviously been planning this book for a long time, probably written most of it, and knew perfectly well who I was and what restrictions I was under. And they would long ago have known about 'mccannfiles' and all the dozens of other McCann-sceptic blogs; they didn't need to ask me about them.
I am sure that Summers and Swan have the seal of approval of the McCann Team, including the Team's lawyers and public relations, for the entire contents of their book.
One question is whether or not their book might be serialised in a British newspaper, along the lines of 'penetrative and comprehensive investigation by top journalist, author of this and that'.
Another question is whether the book's publication might well be carefully timed with some kind of significant statement from Redwood of the Yard - maybe suggesting that they are shortly going to conclude their investigation ('we tried so hard to find whodunnit but failed') and will shortly be submitting their final report to the Home Secretary.
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
PeterMac wrote:The list of questions is interesting, since they obviously knew the answers.tigger wrote:
So we need to define 'exhaustive interviewing' :
Three months before the announcement of the publication we now know of two emails to resp. Pat Brown and TB.
Which I wouldn't class as interviewing, never mind exhaustive.
Were they merely trying to entrap TB ?
Yes, and for people exhaustively researching the subject they're asking a lot of questions when they could have found the answer by just very laid back research, such as googling MF.
The tone of the request is a little low-entry as well, chatty and friendly. No, I don't like this. It won't be a best seller imo unless the publishers market it as 'the solution' and even then, articles on Maddie have become as frequent as the weather report.
Eta. If they started this book about five years ago, can anyone remember what was going on then?
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
This is anything but the ultimate account.
He's been ripped to shreds by people who actually know what they are talking about.
Anthony doesn't do the difficult questions.
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Re: 'Looking for Madeleine' by Anthony Summers and Robbyn Swan - My response to their enquiries
Tony Bennett wrote:
I am sure that Summers and Swan have the seal of approval of the McCann Team, including the Team's lawyers and public relations, for the entire contents of their book..
And we do not forget that the case against you depended on evidence which had been obtained by criminal activity - namely Fraud
Carter-Ruck were clearly guilty of Handling Stolen Goods, either as individuals or as a corporation,
Criminal activity obviously has the seal of approval from the McCann Team.
Which comes as no surprise, given their attempts to pervert the course of justice - in the form of making false statements to the PJ (Shutters, front door, patio door, curtains wide open, curtains closed . . )
And here is one, just to lighten the tone
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