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Something's puzzling me.

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Post by sharonl on 26.07.14 0:25

Here is the full length video, Martin speaks about this  from about 22 - 23 mins






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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by Okeydokey on 26.07.14 2:35

Love those dogs! - as much as Gerry hates them.

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Post by joyce1938 on 26.07.14 6:25

Thanks sHARONI ANS KIMHAGER,FOR YOUR SWIFT REPLY ,I think its not a bad idea that some newer folk here can see and hear some definite fact from mr grimes about the search,as it can all get speculation about blue bag etc etc .Rather a lot of stuff about photos here of late ,surely not all photos were tinkered with ? joyce1938
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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by Nina on 26.07.14 7:53

@sharonl wrote:Here is the full length video, Martin speaks about this  from about 22 - 23 mins






Good morning sharonl. Would you please post the url for the video, and may I please post it on the Justice for Madeleine facebook page?

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by PeterMac on 26.07.14 7:55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4NMYPsFKb8


(If you click on the You Tube symbol bottom right, it opens in a new window and you can copy the URL)

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Post by Nina on 26.07.14 8:18

@PeterMac wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4NMYPsFKb8


(If you click on the You Tube symbol bottom right, it opens in a new window and you can copy the URL)

Many thanks PeterMac.

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by tigger on 26.07.14 14:23

@PeterMac wrote:
@HelenMeg wrote:
I'm sorry PeterMac -  was all this set up with or without knowledge of other TAPAS members? Were they all in on it or are we just saying K and G. Sorry just want to be absolutely clear.
eta - sorry to work you so hard Peter but would you mind going to blue sports bag thread to give me your views on how and when they 'disappeared' the bag..

I wish we could be "absolutely clear".
The fact is I have no idea.
There is the full range of innocent bystanders through involved conspirators and then to accessories to and after the fact.
I don't know, and each may be on a different part of that continuum.
Strange statements, odd actions, a gibbering inability to answer the simplest question may give us some clues, but are probably not conclusive.
The bag was in the cupboard as far as we can tell from the photo.
The dog alerted so far as we can tell fro the video to the spot where the bag had been
They all moved out, and one supposes the bag was taken to the new villa.

Then Mitchell says there wasn't one.   Which is Mitchell-speak for 'there was'.
I don;t know when its disappearance became an issue or when it was noted, or by whom, though this youTube video is interesting

From McCannfiles.com:

23/12

It is revealed that police want to trace a blue tennis bag allegedly taken from Kate and Gerry McCann's apartment on the night Madeleine went missing. Detectives think the hold-all could have been used to carry Madeleine as she was taken away, or even to transport the three-year-old's body. It belonged to the girl's father but has not been seen since the night of May 3, according to a Sky News documentary due to be broadcast on Christmas Eve.
Expert Tony Rogers, who reviews unsolved cases for British police and worked on the Soham investigation, said: "If it's a bag of a size that could be used to take a child away from the flat, that would be of great interest to the investigating officer." But McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell flatly denied that Mr McCann had lost a bag during the family's holiday. He said: "As far as Kate and Gerry are concerned, there is no missing tennis bag. They came back from holiday with everything except of course, tragically, Madeleine."
Mr McCann told friends yesterday that he did not take any tennis equipment to Praia da Luz, and did not own a blue tennis bag. But Sky News stood by its story, which it said came from sources who had travelled to the resort after Madeleine's disappearance.
Portuguese newspaper Diaria de Noticas reports that the Policiaria Judiciaria have been searching for months for a blue tennis bag, with sufficient size to carry a small child, which belonged to Gerry McCann. The story, advanced by Sky News, adds that Gerry McCann assured PJ investigators at the time that the bag had been "stolen".

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by tigger on 26.07.14 14:33

Eta:

From the rogatory interview with David Payne re the missing tennis bag.

"What about a kit bag? Would they have a kit bag with them?”
Reply "Err he certainly didn’t have a great big tennis bag or a, you know, err I mean I used to be a squash, a semi-professional squash player and you know they certainly didn’t have anything that I would call a kit bag from days when I played…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "You know, a lot of sport, err if they had a rucksack with some water in that would be, you know, about as big as it got, you know a small rucksack. But it certainly wasn’t a big tennis, you know, things that you could put a tennis racquet in.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "It would have been something that had their water in.”
1485 "So as opposed to a bag it’d be something like a rucksack, if at all?”
Reply "If, if at all, yeah.” unquote

Nothing you could HIDE a tennis racket in....  - nothing of that size - see the quote in the post t above, also higlhlighted in red.
I would think that particular point was on the agenda at the Rothley meeting.

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by plebgate on 26.07.14 15:05

I cannot see how any new investigation can conclude without the whole lot of them being requestioned.  I really cannot.

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Post by kimHager on 26.07.14 16:03

I think if the bag could magically " be found " then haul them in and question them would see Gerry be so happy hid stolen bag was found.. Nevermind about the little girl that could have been/was inside it grrrr my opinion only

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by angie o'plasty on 26.07.14 16:31

@tigger wrote:Eta:

From the rogatory interview with David Payne re the missing tennis bag.

"What about a kit bag? Would they have a kit bag with them?”
Reply "Err he certainly didn’t have a great big tennis bag or a, you know, err I mean I used to be a squash, a semi-professional squash player and you know they certainly didn’t have anything that I would call a kit bag from days when I played…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "You know, a lot of sport, err if they had a rucksack with some water in that would be, you know, about as big as it got, you know a small rucksack. But it certainly wasn’t a big tennis, you know, things that you could put a tennis racquet in.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "It would have been something that had their water in.”
1485 "So as opposed to a bag it’d be something like a rucksack, if at all?”
Reply "If, if at all, yeah.” unquote

Nothing you could HIDE a tennis racket in....  - nothing of that size - see the quote in the post t above, also higlhlighted in red.
I would think that particular  point was on the agenda at the Rothley  meeting.


I remember years ago, mum was cooking dinner and sent me and my little brother to the shop to get some spuds.

I bought little brother and myself a bag of Quavers each and we munched them on the way home.

Me to little brother: "Don't tell mummy that you had a bag of Quavers".

Brother to mum as soon as we arrived home: "I didn't have a bag of Quavers, mum"

Oh how we laughed.

Bet Gerry didn't laugh when he found out that David Payne had told police that the McCanns didn't have a bag of Quavers.

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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by aiyoyo on 26.07.14 16:52

@tigger wrote:Eta:

From the rogatory interview with David Payne re the missing tennis bag.

"What about a kit bag? Would they have a kit bag with them?”
Reply "Err he certainly didn’t have a great big tennis bag or a, you know, err I mean I used to be a squash, a semi-professional squash player and you know they certainly didn’t have anything that I would call a kit bag from days when I played…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "You know, a lot of sport, err if they had a rucksack with some water in that would be, you know, about as big as it got, you know a small rucksack. But it certainly wasn’t a big tennis, you know, things that you could put a tennis racquet in.”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "There was nothing of that size that you could hide a, a tennis racquet in or anything like that, it would have been just purely, if they had anything…”
1485 "Yeah.”
Reply "It would have been something that had their water in.”
1485 "So as opposed to a bag it’d be something like a rucksack, if at all?”
Reply "If, if at all, yeah.” unquote

Nothing you could HIDE a tennis racket in....  - nothing of that size - see the quote in the post t above, also higlhlighted in red.
I would think that particular  point was on the agenda at the Rothley  meeting.

It shows he's conscious of inference of that question.
Is it really a case of police inferring the use for the bag, or he jumps to conclusion of the inference because he knows. Meaning he provides the answer the police did not ask.
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Re: Something's puzzling me.

Post by soundworks on 26.07.14 17:26

@plebgate wrote:I cannot see how any new investigation can conclude without the whole lot of them being requestioned.  I really cannot.
i believe that they wont be questioned yet cos whatever they say will not be the truth

once everybody else as been questioned and told the truth then we will be left with the mccann clan being arrested etc

we will then find out who breaks ranks out of them all and tells the truth to save their own back


patience needed


{my opinion only}

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