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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 13.05.10 9:58

Just found this posted on the MM forum


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Gerry to Boost the Fund Icon_post_target ali1966 Today at 7:24 amAdrian Findingmadeleine Another 81
Miles for Madeleine.

Just been posted on a facebook group I am a
member of:




This weekend Gerry McCann will be
competing in the
Etape Caledonia- an 81 mile (130km) cycle through
Highland Perthshire
with almost 2000m of ascent.

Gerry is
raising money for Madeleine's Fund- Leaving No Stone Unturned
and
would be grateful if you would sponsor him.

Donations can be
ma...de
online at
the Find Madeleine website.

or directly
through Internet transfers:

Please include etape in the
reference

NatwestLondonWC2H
ONNSort Code: 60 40 05Account Number: 32130058


http://helpingtofindmadeleine.org/gerry_cycling_for_madeleine.pdf
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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 13.05.10 10:02

A reminder about the Fund.

http://retiredrambler.typepad.com/tonys_ramblings/the_mccanns/

09 August 2009

The
Madeleine Fund- an update



It's some time since I've posted anything about
Team McCann
, but in the last few days the hunt for Madeleine got
even more bizarre. The Team, fortified by a couple of
ex-detectives, David Edgar and Arthur Cowley, are on the trail of a Posh
Spice lookalike. The mention of Mrs Beckham and Madeleine McCann was
certain to reach the headlines. What I'm pretty certain about is that
both these policemen are familiar with the problems of identification.
It's difficult enough to be certain about who you saw in good daylight
when you've had a long look, but to recall a face you saw over two
years ago when in drink would have been rejected, as unreliable, by
most coppers I knew. But both these police officers must be
aware of the identification rules they would have used before they
retired. And this Barcelona identification breaks just about all of
them. It's hardly surprising that it leads to what appears to be
another dead end
.What
is clear is that the Madeleine Fund is financing the operation.I've
been able look at the first year's accounts of the Madeleine Fund. For
a couple of quid you can download them from Companies House.
The full title is- Madeleine's Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited. Company
Number: 06248215 The accounts were ruled off at the end of March
last year. Then the fund had a surplus of just over 1 million
pounds-£1,052,027.00 to be exact. It's not clear from the accounts, but I
suspect that figure might well include the damages paid by the Express
Group to the McCanns as the result of their libel
settlement
. The total fund income from the date it was established
was £1,846,178.00. In other words in the first year the directors have
authorised nearly a million pound of expenditure. That includes the
fruitless payment to Metodo
3
, the Spanish private investigators, who made absolutely no
progress. Page 2 of the accounts, The Director's Report , dated
11th November 2008, and signed by John J McCann, contained this
"
As expected, the level of donations [to the fund] has fallen over time,
although we have a number of loyal donors continuing their support.
Income in the new financial year is currently significantly lower than
at the same time last year. However our expenses are ongoing are likely
to increase."
And
this report
suggests that the financial situation is now perhaps
more difficult than in November 2008.The next accounts will be
filed in about ten months time. It will be interesting to see
just how challenging the financial situation will be then. I suspect
that unlike between March 2007 and 2008, they will not contain these
items.Campaign Management £123, 573.00Awareness
£81,504.00Legal Fees and Expenses £111,522.00Search
Fees £250,000.00Fund Legal
Fees £68,799.00Fund Professional Fees
£36,070.00 I'm surprised no one has asked the McCann's
spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, just what these expenses paid for. Over a
third of a million quid spent on professional and management fees!
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Post by Autumn on 13.05.10 12:33

Just had a look at the MacMillan Fund-Raising website. This cycling event is clearly being held to raise money for those suffering from cancer - so how come Gerry is allowed to have people sponsor him to raise money for his own fund? I'm sure there will be some mis-guided people who will sponsor Gerry in the belief he is cycling in support of the MacMillan Charity.
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Post by kary on 13.05.10 13:23

More than likely Autumn!!! Gerry to Boost the Fund 362910
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Post by Guest on 13.05.10 13:47

Why this continual asking the public for money. They have had at least 3 million pounds and probably a whole lot more. They said themselves they had £500,000 still in the fund. If they paid the two detectives £100,000 per year, that is 5 years they can employ them for. They should do as the government is doing and have cut backs, ie, get rid of the law firms, solicitors and PR companies, and concentrate on using the money for what it was meant for, and what the public donated it for. But of course, it would be a lot simpler to just get the PJ to re-open the case thinking
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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 13.05.10 14:03

http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Fundraising/Bikingevents/EtapeCaledonia/EtapeCaledonia.aspx


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I don't get it. How can Gerry McCann use this event to raise money for the Fund ? Even if there is some dodgy way whereby it is possible, IMO it is in really bad taste.

Presumably Macmillan Cancer Support is a charity and VAT free, but the Fund is a registered company, so will any monies raised by Gerry McCann for the Fund be liable for VAT or tax ? After all, this is a six figure business we are talking about, a business which keeps Kate, two private detectives and goodness only knows how many others in employment.
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Post by Laffin Assasin on 13.05.10 14:43

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jeremy-vine/ Todays programme, it does not appear to be ready to listen again yet, I didn't catch it all, but towards the end it was discussing charity cons.
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Post by kary on 13.05.10 16:45

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Post by vaguely1 on 13.05.10 17:18

Etape Caledonia isn't a Macmillan fundraising event. You can join it as Team Macmillan and raise money directly for them, (they also are one of the sponsors of the event), or you can just cycle for yourself or your own cause.

http://www.etapecaledonia.co.uk/entryinfo.html

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Post by Ruby on 13.05.10 17:52

Er, MacMillan have replied to Blueeyes over on MM that anyone filling in the entry form for this biking event on Sunday can choose to name a charity of their own choice.

My goodness, someone had better explain to Gerry he's made a blooper! Otherwise it could look like he's exploiting the fact that a genuine charity isn't aware the 'fund' isn't a charity, to - what could be perceived as - less than honestly obtain money for his limited company! Imagine his red face...

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Post by kary on 13.05.10 18:20

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It looks as though Macmillian Cancer Support is the Official Charity of the event and also the Title Partner. I doubt very much if MCS are paying for that. Personally, I do object to the fact that a Director of a Private Company is intending to generate income in this event for his own company. Just not cricket, imho
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Post by Autumn on 15.05.10 2:11

Vaguely, my understanding is that McCann cannot use this event to raise funds for his own private company. Had the McCann Fund been registered as a charity that would have been a different matter but it is not. Why doesn't McCann organize his own cycling race for his Fund rather than hijack the Macmillan event - then, Vaguely, you could run along side him rattling the collecting tin?
I have contacted Macmillan Charity about this matter as it may well be that they are unaware that the McCann Fund is a private company, not a charity.
Heres the link to the Macmillon Fund-Raising website - we need to make it clear to them that the McCann Fund is not a charity otherwise the Macmillan Charity may well be breaking the law by allowing Gerry to take donations from the public at this event.

http://www.macmillan.org.uk/Fundraising/Fundraising.aspx
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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 15.05.10 6:30

Looks like deborah has also been in contact with someone from Macmillan Cancer support about this. I found the post on MM.

If this is Ms Butler then I have to say "Well Done". The McCanns made a conscious decision to register the Fund as a company, not a charity. I do feel it is disingenuous to portray the Fund, a Fund of which Gerry McCann is a Director and entitled to use for any purpose he and his fellow Director chooses, as a charity.

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Yesterday at 6:38 pmHi all , have now spoken with the lady
in charge at the actual event venue - she fully understands what we are
saying and agrees - she has now contacted someone to get legal advice as
he should not be riding and collecting for a company - she has no
authority to stop him - but the charity may do so - and also they want
to see the facebook page and are looking at findmadeleine site too to
maybe request the appeal for money be removed - when I hear more will
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Post by ufercoffy on 15.05.10 12:25

I also say "well done" to Deborah for taking action Gerry to Boost the Fund 259100

How dare the McCanns do this? They are taking donations away from cancer patients! Gerry to Boost the Fund 93316 They really can't stoop much lower than this can they...surely?
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Post by Rainbow on 15.05.10 12:56

I dont think it is taking donations away from cancer patients,people will make their own minds up as to who to donate to,may even do both.
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Post by kary on 15.05.10 13:47

Deborah also said this:

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Yesterday at 18:20
thanks but it was only a few phone calls - I am now going to make plaquards and if necessary going up to Scotland - want people to donate to charities not his own company

Wonder what she means by "if necessary"? Not a lot of point in making placards if you're not going to go (imho)
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Post by Rainbow on 15.05.10 15:20

Hope she uses a dictionary before she makes them Gerry to Boost the Fund Lol
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Post by Judge Mental on 15.05.10 15:44

Rainbow, one need not worry about spelling mistakes as long as one is getting the message across. Should we not be more concerned about those people who could not even tell the time of day?
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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 15.05.10 16:01

Judge Mental wrote.

Rainbow, one need not worry about
spelling mistakes as long as one is getting the message across. Should
we not be more concerned about those people who could not even tell the
time of day?

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Or the truth.
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Post by Judge Mental on 15.05.10 16:10

Gerry to Boost the Fund 110921 The truth would be most refreshing. One has just read a number of statements which would not stand up to cross-examination for more than one and a half minutes. And that would be whilst using translators. Gerry to Boost the Fund 110921
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Post by littlepixie on 15.05.10 20:29

I don't believe a word that deborah types.
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Post by kary on 15.05.10 20:38

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Post by Guest on 15.05.10 23:13

It is more misleading the public that the Fund is a charity by alligning himself to an event organised by a registerd charity imo
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Post by justagrannynow 1 on 16.05.10 7:34

I am beginning to have second thoughts about our deborah.

She has posted this on MM. Now either taking part in a charity event to raise money for a company breaks the rules or it doesn't. Agreeing after the event to donate some of ones donations doesn't make it correct, or am I missing some obscure point here?

If this turns out to be yet another one of Ms Butlers attention grabbing escapades I would suggest she is banned from forums. It is bad enough having Team McCann bewildering us with an array of abductors without having someone who is supposed to be on the side of Madeleine Mccann joining in.

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Yesterday at 8:31 pmToday have received a call from
Scotland - event organisor and Macmillan - Gerry may be allowed to ride
but they are in contact with the charities commission who on monday are
going to look at the details - and make a decision - they were aware
that not even an acknowledment of Macmillan was posted on findmadeleine .
I have written to Gerry and asked him to see if he is prepared to
donate a percentage of his sponsorship money to Macmillan or another
registered charity - as findmadeleine is registered as a company and not
a charity , meanwhile I have taken flak for this from some pros - I
dont mind and stand by what I morally think is correct - some people
have stated that findmadeleine could not be registered as a charity as
it is only for one person ????
I still think it has been a kick in
the teeth for Macmillan and at least we shall find out if there has been
any wrongdoing legally
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Post by kary on 16.05.10 10:46

Justagrannynow1 wrote: I am beginning to have second thoughts about our deborah.

She has
posted this on MM. Now either taking part in a charity event to raise
money for a company breaks the rules or it doesn't. Agreeing after the
event to donate some of ones donations doesn't make it correct, or am I
missing some obscure point here?

If this turns out to be yet
another one of Ms Butlers attention grabbing escapades I would suggest
she is banned from forums. It is bad enough having Team McCann
bewildering us with an array of abductors without having someone who is
supposed to be on the side of Madeleine Mccann joining in.

I do wonder about Debbie. If she has e-mailed Gerry, I think she may have broken one of the conditions she agreed to last September with CR. Somehow, though, I have a feeling that she won't receive a letter from them. The Etape Caledonia organisers are big in this area (mass participation events) - http://www.imgworld.com/about/sports_entertainment_detail.sps?iType=14161&iNewsid=428159&iCategoryID=12530 - I don't think they'd need to consult the Charity Commission as Debbie says and it's totally outside the remit of the Charity Commission anyway.

I wonder how her placard making went??
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