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Post by Liz Eagles on 18.09.18 20:29

There is always confusion as to what is allowed/disallowed/expected and hoped for in law.

Madeleine McCann, a British citizen, deserves to have her disappearance investigated without the lily-livered excuses of various constabularies and the completely outrageous PR and subsequent media rot embraced and harboured to the extreme by her own parents.

Why the Tapas crew have not been interviewed in UK is disgraceful. Instead, there is a circus surrounding the probable death of a three year old girl. If that doesn't make one weep nothing will.


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Post by willowthewisp on 19.09.18 13:53

@Yorkshirgel wrote:Not wishing to look dim but what is a tag event?  I do not understand how all these people are free to carry on their normal lives without a proper investigation ever having been done by the British police, nor do I understand why our Government got involved at all.
Tag event like wrestling Two man team,where one man continues to replace until a knock out declared.
Two Teams of Two=Four wrestlers.
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Post by willowthewisp on 19.09.18 14:00

aquila wrote:There is always confusion as to what is allowed/disallowed/expected and hoped for in law.

Madeleine McCann, a British citizen, deserves to have her disappearance investigated without the lily-livered excuses of various constabularies and the completely outrageous PR and subsequent media rot embraced and harboured to the extreme by her own parents.

Why the Tapas crew have not been interviewed in UK is disgraceful. Instead, there is a circus surrounding the probable death of a three year old girl. If that doesn't make one weep nothing will.

Hi aquila,very well put.

Just shows what morons Human beings become when entering into Politics/Powerful positions or is it an inbuilt trait that they would behave that way in natural progression in life?
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Post by Yorkshirgel on 19.09.18 17:17

When politicians are not plotting to cause trouble for each other, they are busy protecting their own way of life, I was always told 'Never trust a politician' and as far as I can see their aim in life is to reach the top and they do not care who they trample over to get there.  Good advice.  This case stinks of interference from politicians.  Why would that be in a case of a missing child?  I think that is the question we should be asking.  Who is it they are protecting?  Why does our PM keep giving the nod to releasing more money to this case when there are other children who might be saved/found?  It seems all the Mcs have to do is hold out their begging bowl and it will be filled.  What is it they know that we do not?
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Post by willowthewisp on 19.09.18 18:32

@Yorkshirgel wrote:When politicians are not plotting to cause trouble for each other, they are busy protecting their own way of life, I was always told 'Never trust a politician' and as far as I can see their aim in life is to reach the top and they do not care who they trample over to get there.  Good advice.  This case stinks of interference from politicians.  Why would that be in a case of a missing child?  I think that is the question we should be asking.  Who is it they are protecting?  Why does our PM keep giving the nod to releasing more money to this case when there are other children who might be saved/found?  It seems all the Mcs have to do is hold out their begging bowl and it will be filled.  What is it they know that we do not?
As I have stated before,the only thing generating a larger Cover Up is "Child Abuse/Paedophilia,Parliament,Echelons in Society"7 Decades Post War,Film, Oranges & Sunshine,unbelievable,but True?
UK Care Homes,Ireland,Wales,Islington,Lambeth,Richmond,London?

Do the McCann's have an inside knowledge being Doctors,they have an associate from CEOP who ventured into Thailand without permission seeking to gain an advantage!
Who gave Gerry the late night reading material to study picked up from in UK obtainable by a closed source only?
Not to mention the Gasper statements and proclivities to Bathing other person's children?

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Post by Sundance on 20.09.18 10:24

@willowthewisp wrote:

As I have stated before,the only thing generating a larger Cover Up is "Child Abuse/Paedophilia,Parliament,Echelons in Society"7 Decades Post War,Film, Oranges & Sunshine,unbelievable,but True?
UK Care Homes,Ireland,Wales,Islington,Lambeth,Richmond,London?

Do the McCann's have an inside knowledge being Doctors,they have an associate from CEOP who ventured into Thailand without permission seeking to gain an advantage!
Who gave Gerry the late night reading material to study picked up from in UK obtainable by a closed source only?
Not to mention the Gasper statements and proclivities to Bathing other person's children?

No Smoke without fire,just the Smoke appears first!
How does all of this fit the narrative? There's an extensive paedophile ring and a little girl had an accident due to parental neglect?
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Post by miffy8 on 16.06.20 21:10

@Enid O'Dowd wrote:The discrepancy that stands out for me is no.11.

Kate says she was wearing just a towel having got out of the shower. Dr Payne does not recall the towel. Now it is believable that a man might not recall the clothes a woman was wearing if there was nothing inappropriate about them but not to remember Kate in her towel....?

Kate's story seems consistent - he stayed on the balcony and the visit was only about 30 secs as you would expect given her state of undress.

Dr Payne's version is so different that you wonder if the visit happened.

Richard Hall covers this very well in his film.

Needless to say this visit which is very significant in the scheme of things is not examined in the Summers and Swan book.
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Post by miffy8 on 16.06.20 21:31

I'm sure most men would notice whether a woman had a towel wrapped around her or was wearing clothes and David Payne's bumbling statement when asked what the children were dressed in that evening led him to say that he thought they were all wearing white but wouldn't Madeleine have been wearing her Eyore pj's, which are definitely not white if she'd been there? Also he referred in what I would consider to be reflective language about them looking peaceful, well cared for to, IMO reinforce what a great mother Kate was but it struck me that this kind of reflective language can also be used to fondly describe someone deceased. I made these observations from the Richard Hall documentary in connection with the visit to Kate by David Payne.

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Post by cookiemuncher on 16.06.20 21:50

@miffy8 wrote:I'm sure most men would notice whether a woman had a towel wrapped around her or was wearing clothes and David Payne's bumbling statement when asked what the children were dressed in that evening led him to say that he thought they were all wearing white but wouldn't Madeleine have been wearing her Eyore pj's, which are definitely not white if she'd been there? Also he referred in what I would consider to be reflective language about them looking peaceful, well cared for to, IMO reinforce what a great mother Kate was but it struck me that this kind of reflective language can also be used to fondly describe someone deceased. I made these observations from the Richard Hall documentary in connection with the visit to Kate by David Payne.
I think David Payne was referring to the fact that the 3 children were dressed in white dressing gowns??

Not a mention of those dressing gowns has been made since, where were they for forensics?  Where was the one worn by Madeleine?

But if he didn't go into the apartment and stood at the patio doors with Kate McCann standing in front of him with a towel draped around her how would he see the children sitting like angels in their white dressing gowns?
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Post by sharonl on 16.06.20 23:07

@miffy8 wrote:David Payne's bumbling statement when asked what the children were dressed in that evening led him to say that he thought they were all wearing white but wouldn't Madeleine have been wearing her Eyore pj's, which are definitely not white if she'd been there?

Wouldn't Amelie also have been wearing Eyore pjs? The girls had similar PJ's didn't they?

As for Sean, would a two year old boy really be dressed in white? or would he be in a darker colour?

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Post by BlueBag on 17.06.20 7:02

I'm sure OG has resolved all this.

They must have.

Right?
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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 25.06.20 20:07

I don't believe David Payne visited, I think it's a clearly shoddy attempt at a retro-fit to place Madeleine alive. 
David Payne has a daughter or two and the reference to white nightwear might be because his own child has white nightwear and it popped into his mind when he stuttered and stammered his way through the car crash of an interview.

Someone mentioned dressing gowns but I don't think you'd bother for a week's holiday when you had all the other small-child paraphernalia to deal with. 

There are so many contradictions that I don't think it possible to have occurred or the "margin of error " would be far smaller imo.

I think David and Gerry share a nasty little secret, as per the Gaspars and this is why imo David flustered his way very badly, through a fairy tale account with it's 30 + ers and ums and over 20 you-knows. 

Why he wasn't arguidoed I'll never know.

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