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Dogs, this weekend, watch and educate yourself

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Post by Latetothecase on 16.07.14 16:30

Our own eyes, and emotions, to what we witness, can be a huge breakthrough to the truth of what is that we could never have believed possible. Once you see for yourself, and know, know, there is no going back.

Most people have never really seen what spaniels can do.

This weekend, the cla game fair is at Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire.
This may be one of the prime opportunities to see for yourself how amazing they are.

When you up this by the degrees of training the cadaver spaniels have, it may give many food for thought.

I wish there was a beautiful spaniel icon as well as muttley. Sure it would be used.

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Post by missmar1 on 16.07.14 16:51

@Latetothecase wrote:Our own eyes, and emotions, to what we witness, can be a huge breakthrough to the truth of what is that we could never have believed possible. Once you see for yourself, and know, know, there is no going back.

Most people have never really seen what spaniels can do.

This weekend, the cla game fair is at Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire.
This may be one of the prime opportunities to see for yourself how amazing they are.

When you up this by the degrees of training the cadaver spaniels have, it may give many food for thought.

I wish there was a beautiful spaniel icon as well as muttley. Sure it would be used.


I do not doubt for one minute how well trained the cadaver dogs are .   Neither do I doubt for one minute that the Mccann's would ever have gone to such pains to rubbish the ability of these dogs had the dogs not alerted to item of clothes and areas in and around 5a ....imo.of course.

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Post by Latetothecase on 16.07.14 17:03

Most people here don't doubt, MissMar 

But if they have had to encounter ignorance, misunderstanding, aggravation, or otherwise from people close and important to them, the possibility of the mental breakthrough in a fun day out with spaniels in front of them making it clear is at least worth a shot imo.

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Post by Okeydokey on 16.07.14 19:53

@missmar1 wrote:
@Latetothecase wrote:Our own eyes, and emotions, to what we witness, can be a huge breakthrough to the truth of what is that we could never have believed possible. Once you see for yourself, and know, know, there is no going back.

Most people have never really seen what spaniels can do.

This weekend, the cla game fair is at Blenheim Palace, Oxfordshire.
This may be one of the prime opportunities to see for yourself how amazing they are.

When you up this by the degrees of training the cadaver spaniels have, it may give many food for thought.

I wish there was a beautiful spaniel icon as well as muttley. Sure it would be used.


I do not doubt for one minute how well trained the cadaver dogs are .   Neither do I doubt for one minute that the Mccann's would ever have gone to such pains to rubbish the ability of these dogs had the dogs not alerted to item of clothes and areas in and around 5a ....imo.of course.

I have never understood why the dogs' owner failed to defend himself against the charge that he had in effect fraudulently used the dogs, giving the dogs indications to bark. He never once queried how it could be claimed the dogs - both of them - got it wrong seven times in a row I think it was. What was his name - Martin Grimes ??? Of course he was an ex police officer.

But anyway, his silence gave the McCanns a free pass to rubbish the dogs evidence.

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Post by Justformaddie on 16.07.14 20:04

Wasn't Martin Grime spoken to before he got on the plane home?

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Post by onehand on 16.07.14 22:37

I think martin grime did the best he could to proof his skills and ability to the full, just by keep working as an expert and far beyond that in his field of expertise.
 
Look up his profile on linkdn:
 
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/martin-grime/8/4a7/972
 
hope you get the english version, otherwise, it is partly in dutch.
 
More credentials than those are hardly to get for an expert in his field. He would not have been accepted if he was seen as dodgy, crooked or disgraced.
 
It could also have been, that he is ‘silenced’ because he had to to sign paperwork that inhibited him for speaking out.
 
I have also such a thing, a bit different, but when i take up on retirement, i was only replaced as inactive, but i still be hold to my oath not to comment on any information from cases i have knowledge off. In a lot of special expertise fields of work this is a ordinary approach.
I know a lot of other people, some from the military who also could not speak freely about their line of work.
Outside the government, you see this also in private companies or trades, sometimes you even can’t work for years in the same field.
 
It is usually not only forbidden to speak out on an active case, but also seen as unethical, only what is already officially in publication you can discuss. Like amaral did in his book.
Martin grime’s statements in the mccann case are open to read for everyone and these are clear enough.
 
Also why would anyone expect martin grime to answer questions, that are first rather silly and second not meant to be answered, or third where the one that ask the question, would still keep on having doubts about his expertise and honesty?


just by still doing his job is the best defense there is.

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Post by PeterMac on 17.07.14 8:31

He and his dogs were then headhunted by the FBI and he, and they, have already put several people in prison in the USA.

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Post by autumn2014 on 17.07.14 9:13

I am lucky enough to see both drug and explosive dogs at work on a regular basis and they are very good. The drug dogs will alert to people who have taken/smoked drugs within 48 hours and when I've watched them and been close enough to hear the discussion with the police eventually all the people alerted too admit that they have taken/smoked drugs. This is why I have no doubt in my mind that Eddie and Keela were right and that the whole of the Mccann and Tapas nine timelines and adbuction theories are totally fabricated.

All just in my opinion of course

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Post by LittleMissy on 18.07.14 14:29

Very telling, well in my opinion, was the fact that G immediately sought to discredit dogs rather than, asking questions about who had hired car previously/wondering whether she had been killed by 'abductor' in the apartment. No, G immediately sought to discredit the evidence of the dogs.I believe K said something about 'you could see the dogs were reacting to handler' words to that effect, I read something to that effect although it's source eludes me I am afraid *blushes*
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Post by LittleMissy on 18.07.14 14:41

How can G keep up the line "there is no evidence Madelaine has come to any harm" ???? Eh ??? There clearly is, that evidence came in shape of 2 springer spaniels called Eddie & Keela, who independently alerted in same place (behind sofa), & at other various spots in & around Mccans & their apartment. All coincidence Gerry? Is that what he would have us believe?? That "cadaver dogs are very unreliable" G uttered those very words to a portugese interviewer as I recall. But here in the real world, rather than Mccan land, i am afraid there are far too many inconsistencies & 'coincidences' to put any trust or faith in anything we hear from Mccan & pinkie(as I see u guys call him), caniving Clarence is my moniker for him Wink
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Post by Dr What on 18.07.14 18:58

My daughter is a dog trainer.The dogs that she trains have abilities that are beyond human abilities.

The McCanns, or anyone else for that matter, can talk foolishly about the abilities of our trained canine friends.However, when they do so, they merely reveal a desperate need to hide something that they do not want exposed.
Investigators will always need concrete evidence to back up the findings of trained canines, in order to satisfy any probability of conviction in a Court case, but once the canines indicate or alert, then investigators really know where to look and who to suspect.BUT, addition evidence is needed for formal prosecution purposes.

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Post by Newintown on 18.07.14 19:11

@LittleMissy wrote:How can G keep up the line "there is no evidence Madelaine has come to any harm" ???? Eh ??? There clearly is, that evidence came in shape of 2 springer spaniels called Eddie & Keela, who independently alerted in same place (behind sofa), & at other various spots in & around Mccans & their apartment. All coincidence Gerry? Is that what he would have us believe?? That "cadaver dogs are very unreliable" G uttered those very words to a portugese interviewer as I recall. But here in the real world, rather than Mccan land, i am afraid there are far too many inconsistencies & 'coincidences' to put any trust or faith in anything we hear from Mccan & pinkie(as I see u guys call him), caniving Clarence is my moniker for him Wink

Because it keeps the McCanns out of jail until the PJ and SY find something that is 100% proof that Madeleine has come to harm, and at the same time it keeps their "Fund" going by the gullible people who keep topping it up.
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