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Tory MP WARNED Simon Danczuk to back-off Westminster child abuse scandal

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Post by Sam S on 22.04.15 7:36

Reading this stuff makes my blood boil...I have said it before but shall repeat it...if the people of this country ever wake up from their tv-induced hypnosis and actually see what their supposed betters and leaders are doing to them and their country, there wouldn't be enough lamposts to hang these parasites from. Anyhoo..off to work. smilie

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Post by Doug D on 22.04.15 8:12

Bit of a strange mud-slinging story from the Express.

In the scheme of things £13k in expenses for a year, to me does not seem excessive, only two days cost of OG after all! In her role she would surely be expected to have some sort of international presence.

CPS head spent £7K taxpayers' money on flights while dithering over Labour peer sex charge


BRITAIN'S Director of Public Prosecutions spent almost £7,000 of taxpayers' money flying around the world while her organisation dithered over whether to bring child sex abuse charges against a Labour peer.

By ALIX CULBERTSON
PUBLISHED: 14:54, Tue, Apr 21, 2015 | UPDATED: 06:25, Wed, Apr 22, 2015


Alison Saunders, who is paid £200,000 year, flew business class to America, Dubai and the Caribbean as well as Madrid, Rome and The Hague while the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) spent an entire year deciding whether to charge Lord Greville Janner.

Her expenses totalled a whopping £13,000 for one year and included £1,040 on taxis, with a single taxi ride costing £102, according to the Daily Telegraph.

Ms Saunders flew to the Caribbean for an "official meeting" last September at a cost of £3,105 - which came at the same time the CPS was cutting its budget by 27 per cent over five years.
During that same time 29 journalists charged with corruption were awaiting trial, years after their first arrests.
Last week Ms Saunders confirmed all but three cases were being dropped following the acquittal of all those who went to trial.

Labour MP Simon Danzcuk, who has campaigned against high-profile cases of historic sex abuse, told the newspaper: "For her to be spending so much time out of the country has to be questioned.

"She is making a series of bad decisions, from Janner through to prosecuting journalists, and others besides, and you have got to question what her priorities are.

“Are her priorities attending international conferences or concentrating on decisions that serve people well in this country?”
 
The CPS took an entire year to decide whether there was any evidence to charge Lord Janner, 86, with 22 sex offences after they were handed a police file in April 2014.

It was revealed last week Lord Janner would not be prosecuted because of his severe dementia.

Ms Saunders, who became the DPP in November 2013, received £250,000 in pension payments in her first year in the job on top of her £200,000 salary, as well as a £180,000 lump sum payment that topped up her pension fund to £1.12 million.

A CPS spokesman said Ms Saunder is allowed to charge business fares for long-haul flights when she is required to work immediately after landing and taxis can be taken when heavy luggage or large quantities of paper are to be transported.

The spokesman added: “Crime is international and so is the work of the DPP in combatting it. The DPP’s travel overseas helps the CPS to join forces with other countries so we can reduce serious crime both in the UK and around the world.”

 
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/571899/CPS-head-7K-flights-Greville-Jenner

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Post by Doug D on 22.04.15 8:23

Senior MPs attack failure to charge Janner over abuse: Politicians from all sides put election aside to demand decision be reversed amid concerns of a whitewash 
 
•   Nine politicians from 11 parties made comments in letter to a newspaper
•   Said DPP Alison Saunders had 'damaged public confidence' in justice
•   Ms Saunders ruled Lord Janner unfit to stand trial over child abuse claims
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By DANIEL MARTIN, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 03:04, 22 April 2015 | UPDATED: 03:04, 22 April 2015
 
 
Leading politicians from seven parties have come together to attack the decision not to prosecute Lord Janner over child abuse.
 
They have written to a national newspaper to demand the decision be reversed amid public concerns of a ‘whitewash’.
 
Putting the election aside, 11 leading figures said that Director of Public Prosecutions Alison Saunders was ‘damaging public confidence’ in the justice system with her ruling.
 
The cross-party group, led by Labour’s Simon Danczuk, asked in their letter to The Times: ‘Have we learnt anything from the mistakes of the past?
 
‘As long as justice is not seen to be done and the greater public interest is not served, the public will see attempts to investigate establishment figures involved in historic child abuse as a whitewash.’
 
Mrs Saunders announced last week that 86-year-oldLabour peer Lord Janner, who has dementia, would not face trial over 22 serious offences against nine alleged victims in Leicestershire, from the 1960s to the 1980s.
 
The intervention was co-ordinated by Mr Danczuk, who investigated the Cyril Smith abuse scandal in Rochdale and the subsequent cover-up. 
 
Mrs Saunders’ decision has already drawn criticism from Home Secretary Theresa May.
 
Police are considering a legal challenge, and Lord Macdonald of River Glaven, a former director of public prosecutions, has also questioned the decision.
 
Last night a former president of the Law Society said the Crown Prosecution Service had failed in its duty to put suspected wrongdoers before the courts.
 
 
Linda Lee, who now represents victims and witnesses, said: ‘Alison Saunders may well be right that Lord Janner is not fit to stand trial but it should not be a matter for her to decide. 
'The matter should be brought before the courts so that the evidence may be tested in accordance with the law.
‘This case clearly demonstrates why victims of abuse feel let down by the system.’
 
Leicestershire Police told The Times they were concerned about alleged improper attempts by a member of the Bar to influence key legal decisions in their investigation into Lord Janner and other suspects.
 
A spokesman said: ‘We are aware of this barrister and had concerns but were assured the CPS were dealing with this matter.’
 
The CPS said no improper attempts had been made to influence Mrs Saunders.
A spokesman said: ‘The DPP was not unduly influenced by anyone when making this decision. As head of the CPS — an independent prosecuting authority — the DPP is used to making difficult decisions and will continue to do so independently.’ 
 
Lord Janner’s family has said that the former Leicester West MP is a man of the ‘highest integrity’ who is ‘totally innocent of any wrongdoing’.
 
The peer was found to have Alzheimer’s disease in 2009 but continued to speak in the House of Lords until December 2013.
 
He stopped attending in the week that police searched his home in Hampstead, north London, and later took formal leave of absence. That leave was renewed this month when Lord Janner signed a letter to House of Lords clerks.
 
The full list of signatories to The Times letter is: Mr Danczuk (Labour); John Mann (Labour); John Hemming (Liberal Democrat); Zac Goldsmith (Conservative); Nadine Dorries (Conservative); Mark Reckless (Ukip); Caroline Lucas (Green); Naomi Long (Alliance party); Jim Shannon (DUP); Sarah Wollaston (Conservative); Tessa Munt (Liberal Democrat). 
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3049851/Senior-MPs-attack-failure-charge-Janner-abuse-Politicians-sides-election-aside-demand-decision-reversed-amid-concerns-whitewash.html

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Post by Tony Bennett on 22.04.15 8:42

@Doug D wrote:Bit of a strange mud-slinging story from the Express.

In the scheme of things £13k in expenses for a year, to me does not seem excessive, only two days cost of OG after all! In her role she would surely be expected to have some sort of international presence.

CPS head spent £7K taxpayers' money on flights while dithering over Labour peer sex charge


BRITAIN'S Director of Public Prosecutions spent almost £7,000 of taxpayers' money flying around the world while her organisation dithered over whether to bring child sex abuse charges against a Labour peer.

By ALIX CULBERTSON
PUBLISHED: 14:54, Tue, Apr 21, 2015 | UPDATED: 06:25, Wed, Apr 22, 2015

Alison Saunders, who is paid £200,000 year, flew business class to America, Dubai and the Caribbean as well as Madrid, Rome and The Hague while the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) spent an entire year deciding whether to charge Lord Greville Janner.

Her expenses totalled a whopping £13,000 for one year and included £1,040 on taxis, with a single taxi ride costing £102, according to the Daily Telegraph.

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Thank you for posting this story about Saunders and the other one about the MPs letter.

Can I remind members and guests of my article on here about Saunders, examining her track record up to 2013 (it seems to have got even worse since then):

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7597-alison-saunders-senior-cps-lawyer-who-went-to-portugal-in-april-and-will-become-the-next-director-of-public-prosecutions-her-track-record-examined

...which followed news of her litle trip to Portugal on the McCann case.

Much was made of this by some members here, who, very hopefully, suggested that arrests were imminent.

I thought at the time it was all part of appearing to do something about finding those responsible for Madeleine's disappearance, whilst at the same time the establishment was continuously working on an eventual final resolution that would forever exonerate the McCanns and pin the blame on a named or unnamed abductor.

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Post by BlueBag on 22.04.15 9:27

The full list of signatories to The Times letter is: Mr Danczuk (Labour); John Mann (Labour); John Hemming (Liberal Democrat); Zac Goldsmith (Conservative); Nadine Dorries (Conservative); Mark Reckless (Ukip); Caroline Lucas (Green); Naomi Long (Alliance party); Jim Shannon (DUP); Sarah Wollaston (Conservative); Tessa Munt (Liberal Democrat). 

She has to respond to this.

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Post by Doug D on 22.04.15 17:22

Discovery77
‪@discovery77_
 
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Mary Peridot
‪@realperidot54
 
have started a ‘tweetfest’ to the old MP’s to get them to add support to the Janner letter and the positive responses have started coming back.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 26.04.15 13:15

Just when we thought 'it couldn't get any WORSE' for Janner's 'abuse victiims' to ever get 'justice' we find THIS!

Crown Prosecution boss, DPP Alison Saunders, legal 'links' to Janner are 'exposed'.

Ms Saunders started her 'career' at 1, Garden Court chambers, London, where Janner was a top QC.

Ms Saunders landed a pupillage at Garden Court chambers, in 1983.

Janner remained a senior barrister at Garden Court chambers UNTIL 1986. ('confirmed' by The Bar Council)

So, Saunders AND Janner, 'working', in the SAME law 'chambers' for THREE YEARS!

We 'move' on to the police.

HM Inspector of Constabulary, Zoe Billingham, oversaw police conduct in the 'investigation' into Janner.

Zoe Billingham spent FIVE MONTHS WITH THE LABOUR PEER, as an 'intern' in 1986!

So, imo, with these ESTABLISHMENT 'connections' (CPS/POLICE) something would have to go SERIOUSLY 'WRONG' within the 'system'  for Janner to EVER 'set foot' in a UK Court 'charged' with 'child abuse/exploitation'.

Could, or would, the 'establishment', be 'surprised' if 'somebody' takes 'the law, into their own hands' having been, had, perceived, denied 'justice' by supposedly legitimate law ENFORCEMENT 'agencies'?

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Post by Doug D on 26.04.15 21:26

Updated Exaro article with list of positive tweets in respect of the 'tweetathon' received so far:

Pressure builds on DPP to re-think block on Lord Janner case


Chorus of calls from 48 MPs/election candidates for Alison Saunders to reverse decision

By Mark Watts & Mark Conrad

Updated 26 April 2014 with additional MPs/elections, comments, and amended figures, as well as altered second headline.
MPs are joining the call on director of public prosecutions Alison Saunders to reverse her decision not to prosecute Labour peer Lord Janner.


Simon Danczuk, who as an MP co-authored a book that exposed Sir Cyril Smith, the former Liberal MP who died in 2010, as a paedophile, led the call by politicians for the DPP to think again, asking: “Have we learnt anything from the mistakes of the past?”

Exaro today reveals fresh doubts over the medical evidence that underpins the DPP’s Janner decision. The six “key findings” of the medical evidence, as summarised by the DPP in her statement just over a week ago, were not all agreed by the four experts who gave assessments for the case.

Danczuk told Exaro: “Every day, Alison Saunders becomes more isolated on her terrible decision not to prosecute Lord Janner. We know that the police and alleged victims do not agree with her decision. We know that the public do not agree with it, and it has also been reported that the eminent QCs who advised her did not agree with her decision.”


Janner was one of a group of 12 VIPs who were allegedly members of the ‘Westminster paedophile network’, as named to Exaro last year by an abuse survivor known as “Nick”.

On Tuesday, Danczuk and an initial group of 11 other MPs/election candidates wrote the following letter to The Times:
Sir,

We were encouraged last year by the commitment from the director of public prosecutions, Alison Saunders, to pursue justice for sexual abuse victims whether their cases were “30 days or 30 years old”. She stated the public would be horrified if she did not do this — yet she has decided not to put Lord Janner of Braunstone on trial for alleged historic child abuse. Have we learnt anything from the mistakes of the past?

As long as justice is not seen to be done and the greater public interest is not served, the public will see attempts to investigate establishment figures involved in historic child abuse as a whitewash.

The CPS has acknowledged the case against Lord Janner passes its evidential test, and there are established precedents in proceeding with cases against defendants with advanced dementia. Defendants have been charged with child abuse and found guilty in their absence. One man’s ill health cannot be a barrier to the greater public interest.

Clearly this is damaging public confidence. Mrs Saunders must recognise this and immediately reverse her decision — or look at other routes to providing justice.

Since then, Exaro’s Twitter followers @ExaroNews have tweeted other MPs/election candidates to ask whether they back the call by the initial group of 12.

So far, 48 MPs/election candidates in total back the call for the DPP to reverse the Janner decision: 16 Conservative, 5 Liberal Democrats and 19 from Labour as well as 8 from other parties.

Several peers also joined the call, including Baroness Hussein-Ece, a Liberal Democrat, the Earl of Shrewsbury, a Conservative, Lord Berkeley of Knighton, a crossbencher.
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Lord Falconer, former Lord Chancellor and justice secretary, said: “I think that she was wrong.”
“There should have been an open hearing before a jury as to whether or not Lord Janner was fit to plead or not.
"What Alison Saunders has said – there is no question there was sufficient evidence to justify a prosecution – it would be for the jury to decide whether he was guilty, but the idea of making that decision behind closed doors gives rise to suspicion.
“I am not saying whether he was or was not fit to plead, but it should have been decided by a jury.”
“If it had been decided that he was unfit to plead, there is a procedure that allows for the facts to be heard and a view by a court to be formed as to whether or not the offences occurred.”
“I think that it is wholly wrong that this has been done behind closed doors. There is a legitimate court process that would have ensured fairness, and I believe that the DPP should have used it.”

In addition, Theresa May, home secretary, Jeremy Hunt, health secretary, and Nick Clegg, deputy prime minister, were among at least 12 other MPs/election candidates who expressed concern about the DPP’s decision.

Hunt said: “We all think that there is something very, very strange here where someone was signing official letters only a matter of weeks ago and is somehow escaping prosecution for something so incredibly serious.”

Even Janner’s long-time friend, Keith Vaz, the Labour MP who chaired the House of Commons home affairs committee in the last Parliament, said that it should be reviewed.

Lord Macdonald, a former DPP, suggested that she was wrong not to let a court decide. “Might have been better,” he said.

But David Cameron, prime minister, stressed that it is a matter for Saunders as DPP.

The beleaguered DPP replied to her critics last week by strongly defending her decision. In an interview with BBC2’s Newsnight, Saunders stressed the importance of the medical evidence in her decision. “What I took into account was four experts who all said, he had dementia, it was dementia that had accelerated very quickly,” she said.
This is the full list of MPs/election candidates who are supporting the call so far (with the initial 12 underlined), with their tweets or other comments, mostly in response to being asked whether they support the call for the DPP to reverse her decision.

Conservative
Jake Berry tweeted: “yes it’s wrong! and needs a review.”
Bob Blackman: “yes” and, “In my view a judge should rule on fitness to stand trial after hearing appropriate arguments.”
Neil Carmichael: “yes, I think the Lord Janner case needs to be revisited. Evidence should be properly tested in the public interest.”
Tracey Crouch
Philip Davies: “Yes - absolutely. Have been in touch with @SimonDanczuk to offer my support to him”
Nadine Dorries
Liam Fox, former defence secretary: “I think that what should happen is that it goes before a court, in terms of fitness to plead, and then you can try the evidence.”
Zac Goldsmith
Rebecca Harris: “yes! No problem. How?”
Boris Johnson, mayor of London, said that the DPP’s decision on Lord Janner was “disgraceful and regrettable”, adding that a trial of the facts “would be good”. 
Charlotte Leslie: “yes definitely”
Tim Loughton, former children’s minister: “me too”
Jason McCartney: “Absolutely, the decision needs to be reviewed!”
Caroline Nokes: “yes – I certainly do”
Henry Smith: “yes.”
Sarah Wollaston

Liberal Democrat
John Hemming
Norman Lamb, health minister: “This matter should not be concluded by the DPP and should be brought before a court.” 
Tessa Munt
Mike Thornton: “I think it certainly should go to court”
Mark Williams: “yes I would”

Labour 
Tom Blenkinsop: “yes & there’s precedent.”
Sarah Champion: “Absolutely! Justice is so important for survivors to have closure”
Simon Danczuk
Natascha Engel: “of course”
Lilian Greenwood: “yes”
Jim Hood: “Yes I certainly will support the call for DPP decision to be reversed. It was a disgraceful and questionable decision.”
Diana Johnson: “Yes absolutely agree need 4 a review. Much better if decision made in open court with a jury – transparent decision making.”
Barbara Keeley: “Yes, I agree with the need for a review and that the decision should be taken in open court with a jury.”
Emma Lewell-Buck: “Yes of course, Emma
John Mann
Michael McCann: “yes”
Grahame Morris: “Yes of course. How do I do that”
Albert Owen: “Yes”
Teresa Pearce: “yes where do I sign”
Steve Reed: “yes!” and, “it’s right that politicians don’t make these decisions but this particular decision does seem highly questionable”
Barry Sheerman: “Yes!”
Stephen Twigg: “yes I will.”
Tom Watson: “yes of course.”
Iain Wright: “I certainly will.”

Green
Caroline Lucas

Alliance Party of Northern Ireland 
Naomi Long

Democratic Unionist
Jeffrey Donaldson: “yes”
Jim Shannon

Respect
George Galloway: “I have”

UK Independence Party (UKIP)
Dean Perks: “alive or dead ill or not if the evidence is there charge him”
Mark Reckless

Scottish National Party (SNP)
Martin Docherty: “certainly will!!!”
 

http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5547/pressure-builds-on-dpp-to-re-think-block-on-lord-janner-case

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Post by Doug D on 01.05.15 0:52

ExaroNews 

[ltr]@ExaroNews[/ltr]

 · 1h1 hour ago



[ltr]Latest tally: 123 MPs/#GE2015 candidates, and rising fast, call for reversal of DPP’s Janner decision. Updated list: http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5547/pressure-builds-on-dpp-to-re-think-block-on-lord-janner-case …[/ltr]

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Post by PeterMac on 01.05.15 7:39

Caroline Lucas has appended her name to the letter asking for a review of LeicPol.

Might she now be persuaded to append her name to another letter asking for a review of LeicPol's actions
in the case of Madeleine Beth McCann ?

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Post by aquila on 06.07.15 19:35

I can't help but feel very sorry for Simon Danczuk. His daft wife with her constant attention seeking and their recent public split must have been very hard to bear too.

I hope he can find some peace, get some counselling and return to public life refreshed, reinvigorated and ready to take up the cause again.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.16 11:05

Danczuk will be forced to resign as an MP as a result of recent revelations about his personal life, IMO.  He appears to be as equally foolish as his estranged wife.

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Post by hentie on 04.01.16 11:20

I do have some sympathy for him though I do think he has been incredibly foolish and weak.
However, his ex has shown herself to be a very spiteful and vindictive woman. Talk about kicking a man already down.
It causes me to wonder what he had to tolerate within the marriage.
I don't believe the young girl he sexted was free of blame either. Far from it.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.16 11:30

As a middle-aged, male MP he should not be sexting anyone.  His personal life is a mess.

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Post by hentie on 04.01.16 11:41

I agree he shouldn't be sexting anyone. Goes without saying. He as been found out. Many others haven't of even worse abuse.

Perhaps they should be targeted....

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Post by ChippyM on 04.01.16 13:11

Ladyinred wrote:As a middle-aged, male MP he should not be sexting anyone.  His personal life is a mess.

Sorry but I don't agree with this. It is not against the law to 'sext' someone and his age isn't really relevant to how perverted he can be in his private life. I think it is a matter of personal freedom and no-one else's business what someone gets up to with their sex life as long as it is with adults and doesn't harm or co-erce anyone...which of course would be assault.

   The issue of the 17 year old is a little bit troublesome but the law has to draw a line somewhere on what it considers mature enough for sexual relationships. This young woman in question was 17 at the time AND was charging men for sexually related services. If he saw her pictures on an online profile after meeting her and was aware she charged for services, how does that make him predatory as the papers are trying to infer? They are trying their best to make out he is a predatory person even though what he did was not unlawful. IMO this is so far removed from people in the government having 12 and 14 year old orphans sent to their parties to abuse. It just seems like a classic 'done up like a kipper' job.

  The ex wife has made a load of accusations that really could be true or maybe not but are not criminal...except she has said her husband did stuff to her when she was asleep.....that would constitute rape so why is she going to the papers and not to the police?

 He may be a nasty person, he may be a pervert, a drunk and an idiot but I'm balancing that with the biased view of him the media seem to want to promote. The DM yesterday even had a thinly veiled piece on psychology and how some people who campaign against things are secretely offending in that area and have huge problems with the issue because they know it is how they want to be. They had an example of an anti - paeodophile campaigner who was convicted of child porn - not a mention of Simon Danczuk but a subtle association.  
  So he was warned off at one point and now someone is using the media to smear his character and magnify all the worst bits and try and make him out to be a child abuser to distract from themselves.  At the end of the day the worst thing he did was send a young woman dirty messages but the issue of investigating MP's abusing boys from care homes has lost a lot of credibility in the minds of the public. Job Done.

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Post by BlueBag on 04.01.16 13:28

What crime has he committed?

None.

But he's been targeted.

It's a message to all the others who want to take on the establishment.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.16 19:00

@BlueBag wrote:What crime has he committed?

None.

But he's been targeted.

It's a message to all the others who want to take on the establishment.
No, he hasn't committed any crime, and nobody has suggested that he has.  'Sexting' is not illegal but I expect  better behaviour from a male MP.  He's been suspended from the Labour  Party and he will have an opportunity to explain himself.  This crisis could be a chance for him to resolve his issues.

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Post by plebgate on 04.01.16 21:17

Well said LIR.  He should have known better.

He  has admitted to smoking cannabis and taking other drug in the past. 

His latest ex girlfriend has also spoken out. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382728/Sex-text-MP-Simon-Danczuk-Jekyll-Hyde-character-cried-like-baby-dumped-says-ex-girlfriend.html

His first wife has also had plenty to say about him and if he does sue her as he has threatened then we will soon find out through the courts.  Will be waiting to see if he does actually sue her.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.16 21:22

It would be best if they all just shut up and moved on with their lives.  Far more dignified.

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Post by plebgate on 04.01.16 21:24

If it hadn't all been exposed his constituents would not know what sort of bloke they had voted in.

I hope he is booted out.

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Re: Tory MP WARNED Simon Danczuk to back-off Westminster child abuse scandal

Post by Guest on 04.01.16 21:28

The Guardian is reporting this evening that the police are investigating a rape allegation made against him.

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Re: Tory MP WARNED Simon Danczuk to back-off Westminster child abuse scandal

Post by Tony Bennett on 04.01.16 21:44

@plebgate wrote:If it hadn't all been exposed his constituents would not know what sort of bloke they had voted in.

I hope he is booted out.
And tonight there is still worse:

DANCZUK DENIES RAPE ALLEGATION - BBC News >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-35228812

I am afraid I have lost faith in both Simon Danczuk and Tom Watson.

Like Sonia Poulton, they both promised much, but have failed to deliver. 

Danczuk is a poseur who made a lot of money from his book on Cyril Smith.

Tom Watson has failed to follow up on his threats to expose high-level paedophile rings, and there is more than a suspicion that he and a few cronies only targeted alleged Conservative Lords & MPs.

We have also had three disastrous alleged victims of high level child sex abuse. 

First, the media whipped up allegations against Lord McAlpine on the basis of claims by Steve Meesham. No sooner had he made these claims than he withdrew them. And has remained silent since. Moreover his character emerged in the press and it was not good.

Then we had Exaro News trumpeting the sensational claims of 'Darren', speaking of murders by high-ranking paedophiles. A year later, he has withdrawn them all, even adding that he had been put up to it and over-persuaded to say things that were not true.

Now we have 'Rebecca', unmasked recently as the ridiculous Esther Baker - as can be seen by her Twitter account. How SKY News and Exaro News ever took her laughable claims seriously is beyond me. The idea of her as a young girl being taken once a month to Cannock Chase and then serially raped by assorted Lords and Judges, with coppers in uniform guarding the scene, cannot be taken seriously, and especially after claiming that on some occasions these coppers in uniform 'sort of joined in'.

It's excellent that high profile perverts like Max Clifford, Stuart Hall and Rolf Harris have been jailed for their crimes, and I defer to no-one in wanting to see those who abuse children brought to justice.

But at the moment, I see

* publicity-chasing MPs,

* money-chasing victims,

* story-chasing media and

* ambulance-chasing lawyers

making the running, which isn't doing the serious cause of justice for victims of any elite paedophilia any good whatsoever.

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Re: Tory MP WARNED Simon Danczuk to back-off Westminster child abuse scandal

Post by plebgate on 04.01.16 21:49

Just took a look at the story on the Guardian.   The allegation is about an incident in 2006.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/04/labour-mp-simon-danczuk-facing-police-inquiry-rape-allegation



In several newspaper reports about the sexting story it has been said that he admits to having a drink problem.

IMO all MPs  should not be allowed to vote on very serious matters in the House of Commons unless they have first been tested for drugs or drink in their system.

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