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Post by PeterMac on 09.06.14 8:07



Marcos Pinto, CMTV News Anchor - The outcome of the searches to find traces of Madeleine McCann are more than disappointing: animal bones were found, a man's sock, two cannabis plants and plenty of soil samples were collected. Very few in Praia da Luz believe in the success of this mega-operation by the English police.

Rui Pando Gomes -[pre-recorded in Praia da Luz/Voice Over] The mega search operation took a while to be authorized, but as soon as the English police received the go-ahead from the Public Prosecutor's Office of Portimão, they landed en masse in Praia da Luz. The first site of the police operation was in a vast field near the seaside. Sniffer dogs were deployed, georadars, archaeologists and forensic geologists went into action. Up to thirty English officers, fifteen Judiciary Police officers including several Forest sappers, GNR military officers, worked on a 24-hour-a-day basis. The only thing that wasn't used was the backhoe loader. Excavations were made with pickaxes and shovels, in various spots of the site's grounds but a week later the results were not as expected.

[Walking in a street in Luz] This was one of the areas excavated by the English police. Everyone had visual access to the dig site and could watch the ongoing excavations. The geo-radar detected a possible grave but in the end only a stone was found.


And then there is the full transcript - copied from MM - with thanks
Thanks a lot Astro for this long and very interesting translation of the video with G.Amaral:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2014/06/goncalo-amaral-there-was-no-breaking-in.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+JoanaMorais+%28Joana+Morais%29



Transcription and translation by Astro.



"Anchor: Concerning the outcome of searches to find traces of Madeleine McCann, the results are not very encouraging. Animal bones, one sock from a man, two cannabis plants were found and many soil samples were collected. In Praia da Luz, few believe in the success of this mega operation by the English police.

Voiceover: The mega search operation took a long time to be authorised, but when the English police received a green light from the Public Ministry of Portimão, it moved into Praia da Luz. The first location of the police action was an extensive terrain near the sea. Sniffer dogs went into action, as well as geo-radars, archaeologists and forensic geologists. Around 30 members of the English team, plus 15 from the Polícia Judiciária. Forest sappers, GNR military, 24 hours a day. The only thing missing was the backhoe. Excavations were made with pickaxes and shovels, at various locations of the terrain, but one week later, results were not as expected.

Rui Pando Gomes: This is one of the spots where the English police excavated, everyone had access to the spot and was able to watch the digging. The geo-radar detected a potential grave, but in the end, what was found was a stone.

Voiceover: In Praia da Luz, few believe in the success of this mega operation and even less in the thesis that is presented by the English police, that suspects that the child was taken from home by three burglars.

Bystander 1: It has no logic. What thief goes to burglarise a house, takes a child, kills her, carries her in his arms, in everyone’s sight, walking down the street, and comes to bury her here, on a terrain that is made only of stones? That is crazy! That’s all I have to say.

Voiceover: These searches are being seen by residents and tourists as one big police movie.

Bystander 2: A movie. A movie, maybe. I don’t know if this is, as we say, for the English to see. I am a bit suspicious that this is going to result in nothing.

Bystander 1: I think that they won’t find anything here. Animal bones, maybe, but otherwise…

Voiceover: And in the middle of this movie, some risk a possible scenario with different actors.

Bystander 2: The Smith couple saw him on that street, he turned the corner and could have hidden the body in the garden of that abandoned house. Then, at 6 o’clock – may I say this? – the couple came, when everybody had gone, picked up the body and came to hide it here. It is possible.

Voiceover: Despite the Portuguese authorities assuring that all expenses are being borne by the British, some have doubts about who is actually paying the Portuguese forces that stopped doing their job to be in Praia da Luz.

Bystander 1: I would like to ask that from the big ones, to find out who is paying the gentlemen from the GNR that are doing services here every four hours.

Rui Pando Gomes: … and the forest sappers…

Bystander 1: Exactly. To all of them that are here, because they say it’s the English that pay, but I don’t see the English paying.

Voiceover: After a week of searches, the collected residues are kept in boxes. A man’s sock, animal bones, two cannabis plants, soil samples and a lot of rocks. Indications that will be used to sustain the thesis of the investigators, that say that Maddie is dead and passed through this terrain. Or simply to widen the mystery of the disappearance of this English child.

Rui Pando Gomes: In this mega search operation, many means have been used. From the GNR, 40 officers were on location ensuring the safety of this operation, 40 members of the English police and of the Polícia Judiciária were involved in the searches, geo-radars were used, sniffer dogs, forest sappers were on location, and many people fought for this operation to be successful. Nevertheless, the evidence is scarce, the indicia found are very few, the final results are inconclusive.

Anchor: This is exactly why we speak with Gonçalo Amaral, former Polícia Judiciária inspector. He followed this investigation in the early days. Good evening, thank you for being here.

Gonçalo Amaral: Thank you.

Anchor: How do you see the movie of the searches this week?

Gonçalo Amaral: That is exactly it, it’s a movie. There are British journalists who speak of a farce, something staged for the media, and maybe it's nothing more than that. What is dangerous and serious is this attempt to find a new thesis, a so-called new theory about someone who goes to commit a theft and is scared by a three-year-old child and kills her and takes her out of there, I think it's convoluted.

But it’s nothing new. I remember that within the investigation, back then, and I recall that I spent six months in that investigation, not seven years, or three or four, like Scotland Yard – during that time, there was this thesis, too. And it happens that it was brought forward by a colleague who was a member of British Police, of Scotland Yard. He was the only member of Scotland Yard who was present in that work group of the Polícia Judiciária and the British police, he was Scotland Yard.

And when he advanced that hypothesis, it was discussed and completely set aside because it made no sense. Now they even added a bit more spice, to spice it up, that they are traffickers, that apart from trafficking, one day they thought of breaking into a house. Nobody proves that house was broken into, that there was a theft, there are no traces of a break-in.

Anchor: There are these traces, Gonçalo, of banking statements –

Gonçalo Amaral: What banking statements? Those found on the road, rubbish? We are speaking about rubbish that is being found, and nothing is being related with. The banking statements don’t belong to the McCanns, they weren’t taken from inside the house. Nothing was taken from that house. From that house, the only “thing” which is not a thing, it’s a person, that is missing is Madeleine McCann. There is not a television, a photo camera missing, nothing, no money is missing, and there are no traces of a break-in. Therefore, there was no burglary there. There was no assault on that house.

So now this theory is another show, a farce like the papers and some British journalists say, and that is all that it is.

Anchor: And who is writing this farce’s plot?

Gonçalo Amaral: It’s Scotland Yard that is writing. They have a certain difficulty to end the investigations, they are getting to the point of saying that she is dead, they will reach the point of saying that the cadaver can’t be found, and that the case can’t be solved.

Anchor: They are being pressured by the government, by the McCann family, by whom?

Gonçalo Amaral: By time. By time and by the money that they have spent already, which is a lot. I remind you that this is a special group that has been on this investigation for a long time and that this has already cost the British public coffers thousands of pounds. And now it also costs ours, we saw some people mentioning that, what is being spent in terms of the Portuguese police, which is surely not being paid by the British.

Anchor: I understand that in your opinion, this is a diversion manoeuvre, but what is the purpose?

Gonçalo Amaral: It’s not a diversion manoeuvre, it’s a way of making forget what exists. If you notice, while we are engrossed in the searches, that are even performed on the limit of the grounds for the press, for the television cameras to film, the grounds are huge but it’s on the border, close by – nobody is discussing the case files, nobody is discussing the indicia.

And returning to the indicia, there is one that is proved and is included in the report that the Portuguese police wrote in September, after the disappearance, at that time, and which is the simulation of an abduction. So there is the simulation of an abduction, I ask: if these burglars are so intelligent, so intelligent that “let’s take away the child that is dead, that died of fright or that we killed, and that cannot appear because a homicide is different from a theft, there is no trace of theft, and on top of that we simulate the abduction”. Notice that is the story of the open window, everything is open as if the child had been taken through there.

And in fact these have to very intelligent burglars. Then, they seem to lose their intelligence, because all of a sudden, they apparently went there on foot, it is said that they are three but only one was seen carrying the child in that area, into the direction of those grounds, leaves a body near the location of the disappearance – this not intelligence anymore. The intelligence seems to have stopped at that moment. But well, they say that there are phone calls that place them there… there is no substance, there is nothing there to give this thesis credibility.

Anchor: But how do these eight suspects appear, and with the intention of questioning three of them?

Gonçalo Amaral: They appear because all that it takes is to go to the list of phone calls made in that location, during one or two days, or on that night, and check who has a criminal record. And these are traffickers. And then there is a jump. Traffickers are also burglars, they also break into houses, so it goes. Anyone who says that doesn’t know what drugs trafficking is, or at least drugs trafficking in the Algarve and the means that it implicates and the people that are behind it. Or we are talking about the trafficker that consumes, who is stealing to buy drugs and to sell some drugs.

Then they say “we found two cannabis plants in the middle of the field”. This is where the drugs were kept. This is madness. These are completely mad people. If they moved further up, they would not find a few plants, there are hundreds of cannabis plants in that area, because some foreigners, people who live there, love the plant and they have huge plantations in that area.

But that does not represent the traffic, the trafficker in the Algarve. The trafficker in the Algarve, the one that dedicates himself to the traffic, in terms of a relation with Morocco, with other countries, the organized traffic, who has some power, and that was also discussed here at the beginning – he even had a motorboat standing by at the beach and took the child away and so on – those are not going to burglarize houses and even less are they scared by three-year-old children.

Anchor: Gonçalo Amaral, is there any cause-effect relation between the fact that these searches, these excavations started shortly after Madeleine McCann was officially declared dead by British authorities?

Gonçalo Amaral: That death declaration, a declaration in terms of, a civil death, which is a mechanism that we also have in Portugal, when someone disappears, I think it Portugal it’s after five years –

Anchor: But these excavations come afterwards, not before…

Gonçalo Amaral: This had been discussed earlier on, it’s just that now there was authorisation for this type of excavations. Searches and excavations in locations that had been subject to searches and excavations already, seven years ago. We were there. It’s like raining on a wet spot. Well, it may be that they have another type of information, more credible, but let’s see it. If they have something more concrete, then they should go there directly. They could have gone there on the first day. There is no need for this mise-en-scène to get to a certain point.

I think that they do not possess that information and I even have doubts, in case Madeleine McCann is dead, if the body exists.

Anchor: Gonçalo, I’m going to ask you to stay with us for a little longer. We’re going to take a look at more developments of this story, as today the investigators dug again near a hiding place that had been searched before, and like earlier the CMTV reporter said, tomorrow the first phase of the work is closed and the searches will be resumed on Wednesday, at other locations in the surroundings of Praia da Luz.

Voiceover: The battalion of policemen and forensic experts had an early start on the sixth consecutive day of searches. The chief of operations, Andy Redwood, insisted on taking all of his notes and documents along to the terrain, at a time when the end of the first search phase comes near its end.

In a race against time, the English police used probes again to analyse the subsoil in an area very close to the Rua 25 de Abril, and a few metres away from several apartment blocks. The last areas that the investigators believe were moved and may contain some leads about Maddie are being analysed. On the sixth day of searches, some tiredness could be seen in the faces of some of the members of the English police, disguised with a few smiles.

The cameras were always very close, following the work in detail. The operations went on, and not even a collection of old bottles that was recovered near an improvised building escaped the investigators. A little vegetable garden was also checked and a lot of shrubbery was thoroughly searched. Then, they took their pickaxes again, and their shovels, and excavated. Plastics and other buried objects led the forensics experts back to the spot in the area where earlier a hiding place had been discovered.

Rui Pando Gomes: On the sixth day, the English investigators bet everything on an area where they had earlier found a hiding place that was covered with a zinc plate. In this area, this first phase of searches will end on Sunday. The next two grounds will be subject to excavations on Wednesday and Thursday.

Anchor: Our guest Gonçalo Amaral already had the opportunity to say that in his opinion, all of this is a farce, but Gonçalo, so much time later, they are looking for a body, and that had not happened before.

Gonçalo Amaral: Well, I heard an earlier version where they were digging but still maintained the hope that she is alive, so they are looking for a hole where the child is living, so there is some confusion here, also from the British police. But in fact the theory that the child is dead and that it died that night in that apartment exists since that time, since September of 2007, and it was a conviction both from the Portuguese police and the British police that worked on the case. So it’s not something new.

Now what is being done is to go to everything that is in the process, and try to do it again; they did a reconstitution with actors in order to say that the parents were not suspects, they have e-fits of the person that took the child that night, at 10 p.m. and walked toward this area where these searches are taking place, that happens to be recognised by the Smith family, witnesses, as being the child’s father, Gerald McCann, so this is an attempt to question the conclusions of that report that is in the case files, forgetting about the indicia that exist there, and creating this ghost that there were some rogues, drug traffickers, big drug traffickers who one day decided to carry out a burglary, which even didn’t go very well, and who were scared of a three-year-old child, and even simulated an abduction, took the body away and buried it close to home.

Just let me say this: The question of missing children, and it would be good if the British police or the Portuguese police would say it, when these cases happen, when a three-year-old child, who is in someone’s care, in this case in her parents’ care, disappears from that location, the place where the body will be placed will depend on two important factors. One is the knowledge of the terrain, what do those people know. And the other one is the means, the ability to move, to have a means of transportation that can carry the body further away.

When a body is searched, just like the British police is doing, close to the apartment, then they have no doubts that the person that removed the body and placed it there did not know the terrain and had no means of transportation to take it out of there. Whom does this lead to? It doesn’t lead to any burglars. It leads to those that were responsible to care for the child. This is in the books – books that everyone has read. And maybe because everyone read them, the body does not appear in that area.

Anchor: Then there is a declaration from Gerry and Kate, in the middle of this week, that thank the authorities for the support and for their ongoing efforts to bring Madeleine home. This is the expression.

Gonçalo Amaral: There are other expressions. Mr Gerald McCann said, a few years ago, two or three years ago, I can’t remember, “if she is dead then show us the body”. He will know why he says “show us the body”. There are other elements that point towards the fact that no body exists. Those elements should be taken into account. Those that are in the investigation should think how a body could disappear, how it is possible for this body to disappear under those circumstances.

Anchor: Gonçalo Amaral, let me ask a final question for a quick reply. Will we ever find out what really happened that night?

Gonçalo Amaral: Yes, we will. When MI5 opens the case files, we will find out. Don’t forget that the British secret services followed the case right from the beginning. On location.

Anchor: So only in ten, twenty years…?

Gonçalo Amaral: I don’t know if that information will be made available, but if it’s like in the United States, it takes years to have access to that kind of confidential information. I’ll just tell you this. I recall that – this is not conspiracy theory. The searches that we made with Eddie, with Keela, with the British police, with the planning that is being carried out now, with the British forensics experts, and everything else, there was one person that was responsible for those searches, a British citizen.

And at the end of those searches, at the end of that result, he returns to England, and he’s at the airport in Faro, waiting for the plane to return to England, and he receives a phone call. He is accompanied by one of our colleagues. And he then explains to our colleague that there was a member of the MI5 at the airport, waiting for him, to talk with him about the result of the investigation.

Therefore, we are not making anything up. Everything has been made up. And someone has the information, so make the information available. From satellites, from the secret services, from wherever.

Anchor: Gonçalo Amaral, good evening and thank you for being here tonight."

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Post by bristow on 09.06.14 8:30

So clear, so concise and so obvious.
So whitewash.

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Post by Hicks on 09.06.14 8:33

SNR Amaral has spelt it out loud and clear. This is a whitewash. This is a cover up. If as SNR Amaral had inferred MI5 are controlling this scam then it is not to protect two negligent parents that's for sure.
I would love to know who this British citizen is. The one who was responsible for the dogs searches back then and responsible for the current activity.

Any guesses PeterMac?

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Post by BlueBag on 09.06.14 9:01

WOW.

Just WOW.

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Post by ChippyM on 09.06.14 9:11

I don't doubt the involvement of Mi5 but the burglars and drug traffickers and police waiting to arrest them is tabloid twaddle as far as I can see.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.06.14 9:16

So we were RIGHT, then?

THE 'SHOW' MUST GO ON!

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Post by stillsloppingout on 09.06.14 9:17

So there you have it . when Mi5 are involved its usually to pull somebody out of the sh**  Hence all the D notices etc .

 For this to happen IMO it can only be because the person is a senior cabinet minister  [ of the time, NOT opposition ] , or a high end member of the Royal Family . [ then process of ilimination ]     

Ps this post by Amaral needs to be posted on social media .

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Post by tiny on 09.06.14 9:18

I just hope Mr Amaral KNOWS more than he is letting on,and if this does turn out a whitrwash he will tell all.

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Post by stillsloppingout on 09.06.14 9:19

@tiny wrote:I just hope Mr Amaral KNOWS more than he is letting on,and if this does turn out a whitrwash he will tell all.
He does and i guess he will , but the powerful machine will crush him, discredit him and maybe even ....

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.06.14 9:20

The SHOW must go on.............

Empty spaces - what are we searching for?
Abandoned places - I guess we know the score
On and on!
Does anybody know what we are looking for?

Another hero - another, mindless crime.
Behind the curtain, in the pantomime
Hold the line!
Does anybody want to take it anymore?

The Show must go on!
The Show must go on!Yeah!
The Show must go on! Yeah!
The Show must go on!

I'll face it with a grin!
I'm never giving in!
On with the show!

OG 'chorus' (about Andy)

He'll top the bill!
He is ol' Bill
He'll overkill!
He has to find the will to carry on!
On with the show!
On with the show!

THE SHOW MUST GO ON

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Post by joyce1938 on 09.06.14 9:29

Right,So when will the PJ have their chance to do the job that our lot cant seem to do ? Be interesting too ,as when mr Amaral was moved from the case to faro,we did wonder where the new man stood and how he would move on with the case ,then it got shelved as km would not answer a lot of questions .So my question now is ,who is now lead from faro on this now ,I believe its a different lot and Lisbon have a group too ?Do they agree ask ?this search seems to be taking too long ,I would have thought that some machines and dogs could have been used at same time ,especially as the mound I think was searched emmediatly days after the said event  dogs and people would have spotted a new lier I would think. hope to hear back from this ,I do not speak a lot on here but read every day and often others have replied and no use to double up on that ,joyce1938

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.06.14 9:33

So now, it seems, the 'cat's out of the bag' or in the Met case, the 'dogs are out of the kennels' WILL the self proclaimed 'elite' "Maddie Cops" even bother with the 'pretence' of doing another TWO site 'searches'?


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Post by HelenMeg on 09.06.14 9:34

Its like being on a roller-coaster  - you read something and feel optimism only to be plunged back into severe pessimism. After reading this it doesn't sound good, but earlier on today I caught up with the comments    on Textusa's last post and she refers to possibly significant developments on Wednesday (note - see her latest comments on the post.).  I will copy it here and hope she does not mind  - and I hope you dont mind but I thought it interesting-

   " Thank you for your comment.

Our optimism is based merely on good-sense and realism. We sincerely hope BH finally use their good-sense and start to be realistic. It will be the best for all and the only scenario that will bring real closure.

As always, only when the snow settles in the globe, the scene is revealed.

From our porch we have to tell you that the game seems to be played very interestingly.

Whoever is responsible for moving SY’s pawn is playing every trick possible in the book.

SY is leaving all but one option left.

The one left out is abduction. The abandonment of this thesis began with BinSuperBockman back in March and since then SY has confirmed this in a crescendo up to this very expensive show they put on in Praia da Luz.

Maddie not only is dead but was dead when her body left that apartment.

But all other options remain open. Including the one we didn’t mention in the post but that has been brought up in comments: whitewashing.

Please don’t read in our words above that we’re thinking the whitewashing option is the most likely one. When we say all options remain open, we mean ALL options.

Against whitewashing we continue to advice that it would be stupid. Really stupid. Really. More than Kate publishing her book. And that was really stupid as everyone knows.

We are very eager to see what is going to happen on Wednesday. We have been given the indication that significant moves will be made. We hope so.

Two last final notes. One is directed to SY, or its manipulators, and that is to remind them, if we may, that 2014 is not 2007/2008. And there are legal problems that cannot be overcome no matter the will to overcome them. Not saying that there’s that will. Just saying that what is possible to do, or more importantly, what is not possible to do, is independent of some wills.

Will use an example that came up in a conversation while talking with Fred today:

“Lagos made the wrong decision when it refused to sell the small beach (Praia de Pinhão) to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt when they showed interest in buying the house that overlooks it. They would bring over other rich celebrities to the region and these would spend significant amounts of cash…”, said Fred

“No, Lagos didn’t make any wrong decision there. Even if Jolie & Pitt offered to pay very, very well for that house and beach, it wasn’t up to the mayor to make any sort of decision on the subject. Beaches in Portugal cannot be sold to privates. Beaches are always public. So there was simply no decision to be made. It was decided upfront”, I answered.

Some things are simply legally impossible.

The last final note is to readers. The crux of this case lies not in the PJ (or SY). It lies in the echelon above the PJ: the Portuguese Public Ministry. On what it will be allowed to decide. That simple.

As for the rest, we will wait, patiently, without any positivism or pessimism, for Wednesday.

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Post by Mirage on 09.06.14 9:37

This interview transcript should be sent to every MP in the land. The information will then be in the hands of representatives of the people. They are elected by the people to be the voice of the people. The responsibility for a cover-up of the death of a child will then have openly passed from the hands of a few to the many in the name of this country's citizenship. What they then do about it will be a true barometric reading of how far rotten the country's governance is.

 They say a fish rots from the head down. Let's see how far down the body politic this rot has travelled.

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Post by Watching on 09.06.14 9:39

@BlueBag wrote:WOW.

Just WOW.

 I echo your sentiments Bluebag!

Mr will be choking on his cornflakes this morning.  Mrs will be preparing the next warning to the public, not to read or comment on GA's interview, an interview that might hinder the police investigation.  Where have we heard that before - the libel trial - GA's book!

Can't help but feel tremendous sadness for the little twins though, they have to face their friends at school, and many of their parents quite possibly are not supportive of Mr & Mrs.

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Post by stillsloppingout on 09.06.14 9:42

@jeanmonroe wrote:The SHOW must go on.............

Empty spaces - what are we searching for?
Abandoned places - I guess we know the score
On and on!
Does anybody know what we are looking for?

Another hero - another, mindless crime.
Behind the curtain, in the pantomime
Hold the line!
Does anybody want to take it anymore?

The Show must go on!
The Show must go on!Yeah!
The Show must go on! Yeah!
The Show must go on!

I'll face it with a grin!
I'm never giving in!
On with the show!

OG 'chorus' (about Andy)

He'll top the bill!
He is ol' Bill
He'll overkill!
He has to find the will to carry on!
On with the show!
On with the show!

THE SHOW MUST GO ON
 Queen 

God bless them similarities with this case . 

SY are UNDER PRESSURE ,'WE  ARE THE CHAMPIONS '  they claimed they have ONE VISION  , to stop the INNUENDO , and to prove they had a BREAKTHRO, they showed us the INVISIBLE MAN , who KEPT PASSING THE OPENED WINDOWS on crime watch . 

The digging started , they went HEADLONG , on the rocky terrain advising the PJ where THE HAMMER TO FALL , DONT STOP ME NOW said Redwood , or people will think im a LIAR , or that IM GOING SLIGHTLY MAD .  nothing was found , oh well ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST . I WANT TO BREAK FREE , but THE SHOW MUST GO ON . big grin

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Re: Latest interview with Dr Amaral - copied from Joana Morais - with thanks

Post by endgame on 09.06.14 9:45

@HelenMeg wrote:Its like being on a roller-coaster  - you read something and feel optimism only to be plunged back into severe pessimism. After reading this it doesn't sound good, but earlier on today I caught up with the comments    on Textusa's last post and she refers to possibly significant developments on Wednesday (note - see her latest comments on the post.).  I will copy it here and hope she does not mind  - and I hope you dont mind but I thought it interesting-

   " Thank you for your comment.

Our optimism is based merely on good-sense and realism. We sincerely hope BH finally use their good-sense and start to be realistic. It will be the best for all and the only scenario that will bring real closure.

As always, only when the snow settles in the globe, the scene is revealed.

From our porch we have to tell you that the game seems to be played very interestingly.

Whoever is responsible for moving SY’s pawn is playing every trick possible in the book.

SY is leaving all but one option left.

The one left out is abduction. The abandonment of this thesis began with BinSuperBockman back in March and since then SY has confirmed this in a crescendo up to this very expensive show they put on in Praia da Luz.

Maddie not only is dead but was dead when her body left that apartment.

But all other options remain open. Including the one we didn’t mention in the post but that has been brought up in comments: whitewashing.

Please don’t read in our words above that we’re thinking the whitewashing option is the most likely one. When we say all options remain open, we mean ALL options.

Against whitewashing we continue to advice that it would be stupid. Really stupid. Really. More than Kate publishing her book. And that was really stupid as everyone knows.

We are very eager to see what is going to happen on Wednesday. We have been given the indication that significant moves will be made. We hope so.

Two last final notes. One is directed to SY, or its manipulators, and that is to remind them, if we may, that 2014 is not 2007/2008. And there are legal problems that cannot be overcome no matter the will to overcome them. Not saying that there’s that will. Just saying that what is possible to do, or more importantly, what is not possible to do, is independent of some wills.

Will use an example that came up in a conversation while talking with Fred today:

“Lagos made the wrong decision when it refused to sell the small beach (Praia de Pinhão) to Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt when they showed interest in buying the house that overlooks it. They would bring over other rich celebrities to the region and these would spend significant amounts of cash…”, said Fred

“No, Lagos didn’t make any wrong decision there. Even if Jolie & Pitt offered to pay very, very well for that house and beach, it wasn’t up to the mayor to make any sort of decision on the subject. Beaches in Portugal cannot be sold to privates. Beaches are always public. So there was simply no decision to be made. It was decided upfront”, I answered.

Some things are simply legally impossible.

The last final note is to readers. The crux of this case lies not in the PJ (or SY). It lies in the echelon above the PJ: the Portuguese Public Ministry. On what it will be allowed to decide. That simple.

As for the rest, we will wait, patiently, without any positivism or pessimism, for Wednesday.
Where does she refer to "possibly significant developments on Wednesday"? All she says is that she waits patiently for Wednesday i.e the day of the resumption of the searches after the two day break. A little over interpretation I think. Unless I've missed something.

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Post by AndyB on 09.06.14 9:48

@stillsloppingout wrote:So there you have it . when Mi5 are involved its usually to pull somebody out of the sh**  Hence all the D notices etc .

 For this to happen IMO it can only be because the person is a senior cabinet minister  [ of the time, NOT opposition ] , or a high end member of the Royal Family . [ then process of ilimination ]     

Ps this post by Amaral needs to be posted on social media .
Talking of D notices, there's this from 2007. I find the association of Labour government paedophiles with Portugal interesting, although its probably coincidental:

However, Blair issued a D-Notice, resulting in a gag order on the press from publishing any details of the investigation. Blair cited the impending war in Iraq as a reason for the D-Notice. Police also discovered links between British Labour government paedophile suspects and the trafficking of children for purposes of prostitution from Belgium and Portugal
From here: http://www.tpuc.org/blair-covering-up-paedophile-scandal/

There's more on the story here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tony-blair-minister-former-pms-3468050

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Post by ChippyM on 09.06.14 9:49

So if Mi5 were involved right from the beginning and wanted to cover things up,

-Why not come up with a patsy sooner or wrap up the investigation in 2007, why let the case be reinvestigated?

-Why involve the dogs but ignore their findings?

 Unless what Amaral is saying is that some factions (the one that brought in the dogs) were against a cover-up but were being kept down by Mi5?

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Post by stillsloppingout on 09.06.14 9:50

iF they had rock solid information , the person who provided it would have been standing there overseeing the digs . Like Brady , West etc . its the only way to pin point . its just SY flying over , ooh that looks good , so does the 18th green on the local course ,i would not put it passed them that would really pi** the locals off.

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Post by nomendelta on 09.06.14 9:51

It all hinges on where the information Amaral repeats is coming from as we all know how well-oiled and slippery the McCann PR team can be. SY could well be releasing absolutely no information and the whole thesis about drug-dealers could be coming from TM. One assumes Amaral is more informed than most though.

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Post by canada12 on 09.06.14 9:54

Wouldn't it have been MI6? MI5 looks after domestic issues on British soil. MI6 looks after British interests outside the UK.

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Post by MaybeMaybenot on 09.06.14 9:54

Don't forget that the McCanns were also chauffeured home by Special Branch on their return

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Post by stillsloppingout on 09.06.14 9:54

@nomendelta wrote:It all hinges on where the information Amaral repeats is coming from as we all know how well-oiled and slippery the McCann PR team can be. SY could well be releasing absolutely no information and the whole thesis about drug-dealers could be coming from TM. One assumes Amaral is more informed than most though.
Amaral is the only constant in this "show ". what he puts down on record will be scrutinised , so he is selective and careful in his words, but have no doubt, his narrative is the current state of play , he knows it ,and there is NO doubt somebody inside the PJ will be keeping him in the loop too.

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Post by aiyoyo on 09.06.14 9:59

@Hicks wrote:SNR Amaral has spelt it out loud and clear. This is a whitewash. This is a cover up. If as SNR Amaral had inferred MI5 are controlling this scam then it is not to protect two negligent parents that's for sure.
I would love to know who this British citizen is. The one who was responsible for the dogs searches back then and responsible for the current activity.

Any guesses PeterMac?

Martin Grime ? Mark Harrison ?

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