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Post by Guest on 18.05.14 22:17

Just been catching up and read some very interesting recent posts on the "Why Operation Grange can only be a whitewash" thread in regards to Tractorman.

I believe Eculides Monterio deserves a thread of his own. (Couldn't find anything on the search button anyway)

So it is now suggested that someone (one of the players) from the Ocean Club called Monterio on the night of the 3rd?

Monterio became a person of interest for the PJ due to phone records?

Monterio was possibly the reason why the PJ re-opened the investigation?

Team Mccann didn't 'ride' with the tractorman story even though it could of been a suitable patsy?

Monterio died in a tractor accident which now could of happened on a golf course linked to the Ocean club and also John Geraghty?

I have tried to find out more information about HOW he actually died which involves a tractor but cant find anything?

I mean how does someone die on a tractor? Not for speeding too fast and you don't just fall out of a tractor surely?

The only logical scenario i can think of is if someone else is driving the tractor and Monterio is 'accidentally' ran over. So with what has recently come to light then could this be a plausible explanation? Did some one intentionally run over him?

Was Monterio deliberately 'bumped off' as was connected in some way to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and was seen as a weak link. A problem that needed to be eliminated?

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Re: Euclides Monteiro (Tractorman)

Post by TheTruthWillOut on 18.05.14 22:23

Yeah just did a Google News search of his name for 2009-2010 and not a single result!?

Are there any posters here in Portugal that could check I wonder?

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Post by Guest on 18.05.14 22:32

Andrew77R wrote:
I have tried to find out more information about HOW he actually died which involves a tractor but cant find anything?

I mean how does someone die on a tractor? Not for speeding too fast and you don't just fall out of a tractor surely?


If you Google his name you get various references to him being run over by a tractor, in a tractor crash or being involved in a "freak" tractor accident (as opposed to a regular, run of the mill tractor accident, presumably).

I can't believe it's 10.30 on a Sunday eve and I'm actually Googling to establish the exact manner in which a black Portuguese dude was dispatched by tractor.... and yet I am.

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Post by HelenMeg on 18.05.14 22:35


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Re: Euclides Monteiro (Tractorman)

Post by Guest on 18.05.14 22:40

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

I can't believe it's 10.30 on a Sunday eve and I'm actually Googling to establish the exact manner in which a black Portuguese dude was dispatched by tractor.... and yet I am.
Haha - Was having similar thoughts myself to be fair. 

Been out in the sun all day. Must be something to do with heatstroke or something.

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Post by Mirage on 18.05.14 22:42

Andrew77R wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:

I can't believe it's 10.30 on a Sunday eve and I'm actually Googling to establish the exact manner in which a black Portuguese dude was dispatched by tractor.... and yet I am.
Haha - Was having similar thoughts myself to be fair. 

Been out in the sun all day. Must be something to do with heatstroke or something.

I feel a few tractor jokes coming on. Like - shouldn't we start a new tread?  big grin

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Post by 1soapy on 18.05.14 22:44

Not that I've had any more luck than anyone else, but there are multiple spelling or different ways of spelling both of his names, to what you have written.

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 18.05.14 22:49

This is the only tractor death I can find that happened in Portugal: http://portugalresident.com/tractor-death

And that is from early this year.

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Post by Guest on 18.05.14 22:58

Apologies. Didn't see that thread when i did a search. Mind you i did a search by his actual name and not 'tractorman'.

Had a quick skim read but doesn't really mention any of the points from my 1st post which has come to light recently by some other posters (on the other thread).

I'm interested in Tony Bennett's recent comment about it and hope he can elaborate.

Snipped from TB.

Day after day, you search and search - and find nothing of interest of value.

But then, all of a sudden, you find gold dust.

Or even a nugget.

And then you realise that all your searching has been worthwhile, after all.

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Post by PeterMac on 18.05.14 23:01

Andrew77R wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:
I can't believe it's 10.30 on a Sunday eve and I'm actually Googling to establish the exact manner in which a black Portuguese dude was dispatched by tractor.... and yet I am.
Haha - Was having similar thoughts myself to be fair. 
Been out in the sun all day. Must be something to do with heatstroke or something.

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Post by Mirage on 18.05.14 23:02

@1soapy wrote:Not that I've had any more luck than anyone else, but there are multiple spelling or different ways of spelling both of his names, to what you have written.

Fairly sure it's Monteiro 1soapy.

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Post by Guest on 18.05.14 23:04

I have corrected the spelling of Monteiro in the topic heading.

It will indeed be interesting to see if any Portuguese members can find a report of this accident when it actually happened.

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Re: Euclides Monteiro (Tractorman)

Post by Guest on 18.05.14 23:08

My error for misspelling.

Blame the heatstroke again.

Thanks for correcting.

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 18.05.14 23:09

If no one can find anything confirming this man died in a tractor accident then it must be seen as very suspect. The weird thing is this came from the PJ didn't it!? thinking

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Post by 1soapy on 18.05.14 23:19

Just saying that Andrew77R spelled the first name AND the second name wrong compared to the title of the thread. I did a copy and paste from within his post and was corrected twice within google.

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Post by Mirage on 18.05.14 23:20

I have googled in Portuguese,  "Man dies in freak tractor accident Algarve 2009" and many other permutations, sometimes including the name; sometimes not. I left the year out sometimes too.  Zilch comes up.

Something not ringing right here.

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Post by 1soapy on 18.05.14 23:21

Not attacking you Andrew. Just a cautionary note for anyone searching. I make spelling mistakes all the time.

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Post by Watching on 18.05.14 23:22

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:If no one can find anything confirming this man died in a tractor accident then it must be seen as very suspect. The weird thing is this came from the PJ didn't it!? thinking


I believe Monteiro was run over by a tractor.

Following article may help.


RTP exclusive interview of Euclides Monteiro's widow by Sandra Felgueiras
3 MAY 2014 | POSTED BY JOANA MORAIS LEAVE A COMMENT




Madeleine McCann disappeared seven years ago

by Sandra Felgueiras/Patrícia Lopes/Paulo Lourenço/Samuel Freire
Tonight we will show you the alibi of the main suspect of this case that lead to the reopening of the process by the Judiciary Police six months ago. In an exclusive interview to ‘Sexta às 9’ [RTP news program ‘Friday at 9’] Euclide’s widow states that just one hour before Madeleine disappeared her husband wrote a poem for which there is a computer record [metadata/ e.g. Last time a text document was saved on a computer]. The Cape-Verdean, who would be today 46 years old, was elected as a suspect 5 years after he died tragically in a tractor accident. His criminal record shows a 5-year prison term for housebreaking and burglary in Albufeira about 20 years ago, yet there is not a single line written about child sex abuse – the new hypothesis put forward by the PJ and the English police as the possibility that lies behind the disappearance of the world's most high-profile child. 

in RTP, 2nd May 2014 

Transcript

Cláudia, Euclides Monteiro’s widow pseudonym reads one of the poems of her late husband’s posthumous book titled ‘Drugs, Life experiences and Dreams’. She concludes the reading of the poem - that can only be described as having a religious nature - by reading the date of when it was written: “…3rd of May 2007, 21h00 – it was this one that I found and I was very pleased to have this evidence.”

Lower third: RTP Exclusive - Widow of PJ’s main suspect in the Maddie case shows alibi of husband

Sandra Felgueiras (Voice over) - It’s the alibi that the Judiciary knows nothing about. Seven years after the disappearance of Madeleine, Euclides Monteiro’s widow scrolls through his poems on the computer that were recently published in a book. She never showed them to anyone, not even to the PJ team that questioned her in October.

“You have never even shown that book to the Judiciary Police?”

'Cláudia' – No.

Sandra Felgueiras [SF] – You never told the PJ that you had that registration date at 9pm?

'Cláudia' [C] – At the time I didn’t know, I searched [the computer] and then I found it.

SF – You were expecting for the Judiciary Police to get in touch with you, but they never contacted you again…

C – Exactly, I was questioned only one time by the Judiciary Police of Porto. (…) This book was made as a diary, a way to express his feelings, ambitions, dreams…

SF – So, he wrote regularly, every night?

C - With regularity, practically every night, at any time.

Lower Third : Euclides Monteiro left a computer record [metadata] at 9pm of May 3, 2007

SF – With 41 years old and with a son of Madeleine’s age, ‘Cláudia’, a fictitious name, does not accept the shadow of suspicion cast on her husband. For the first time, since the process was reopened in Portugal, she decided to break the silence and tell us all about the evidence that lead the PJ to Euclides Monteiro after his death.

Lower Third: PJ had already questioned Euclides regarding sexual abuse of minors in 2008 

C – They [PJ] associated one phone call made in the Praia da Luz mobile network area.

SF – On that night of May 3 2007?

C – Yes, however we lived at that time, about 2km from Praia da Luz as the crow flies [in a straight line], the antenna are those over there – points to the cell phone towers at the top of hills behind Sandra .

SF – Which we can see right now.

C – Which we can see right now, yes, and that could have captured the signal even from our own home.

SF – He had worked at the Ocean Club before.

C – Yes, he worked there in the previous year for 3 months. Euclides didn’t drive [a car], he drove a scooter to his work. I can’t see how - in a village like Praia da Luz, well lit up – was possible for a person to carry a child on foot or in a scooter without being seen.

SF – You don’t admit in any way the possibility of your husband leading a double life?

C – No, that is impossible.

SF – In the book which you have published after his death, he speaks about you as his soul mate…

C – I knew about his whole life in detail, he was present in my daily life in such a way that it would have been completely impossible for him to have hidden those facts from me. If that had happened I would have seen something, or suspected about something and I never did.

Lower Third: Euclides DNA tests made in 2008 were negative.

[ongoing, sorry for delay]


Synopsis/ quick highlights: Euclides Monteiro has an alibi for the time when Maddie disappeared, his DNA was tested back in 2008 and no matches were found, he does not have a record of child sex abuse. In Algarve there are no official police records of a "man who allegedly targeted only British children" and who broke into Britons houses to specifically sexually abuse their white, blue-eyed and blonde little English girls as described by DCI Andy Redwood in his latest media performances, nor have any of the locals or the British expat community have any recollection of such events taking place in the past 10 years. Euclides Monteiro's widow has lost her job in the consequence of the exposure of her name in the UK media (Mirror, Daily Mail, Daily Star, etc). Euclides Monteiro's alibi is a poem that he wrote at 21h00 of 3rd of May 2007, that his wife found in the computer, a series of poems that were now published posthumously.

Euclides Monteiro's mobile phone ping traced by the PJ in the cell phone antennas of Praia da Luz on the 3rd of May 2007 is also explained by the Monteiro couple living close by those antennas towers as seen in the video, so  Monteiro's cell phone would ping anyway. Monteiro was arrested for 5 years circa 20 years ago for housebreaking and burglary in the area of Albufeira (Algarve) when he was still an addict, since then he overcome his addiction and was never arrested again. The Monteiros have a son that is Maddie's age, Euclide's widow fears more repercussions and appears in the video under a pseudonym. Also Euclides only drove a scooter, he did not own a car - a bit impossible to 'kidnap' a child on a scooter. Several people appear in the video, from Bragança [North of Portugal] where he lived from the 70's till the 90's, attesting that he was a good man despite the troubled life he led later on. Euclide's sister appears again accusing the current PJ investigation lead by Helena Monteiro of taking the easy route and pinning Madeleine's disappearance on a dead man - couldn't agree more!

Mark Williams-Thomas, an usual UK media rent-an-opinion-cop states (and known McCann couple abduction thesis supporter) that Redwood's team was over confident and that they are under enormous pressure to solve the case. He also states, upon being questioned by Sandra Felgueiras, that he finds it very odd the fact that several people have only contacted Redwood's team after the BBC Crimewatch/McCann show (that was filmed in Spain and never broadcast in Portugal) and not in 2007, to the local police forces (GNR, PJ) or the UK police authorities when returning from their holidays. Redwood's MET team no longer consider the late Euclides Monteiro as a suspect, and are now looking for a smelly, pot-bellied man who wore a burgundy sweatshirt (another farcical lead to add to the 196...). As to Helena Monteiro's PJ team, it is unknown if they still consider Euclides as the main suspect, they at least did at some point since it seems that that was the basis for the reopening of Madeleine McCann's process in Portugal. 

My Opinion: This are all leads that lead nowhere, as everyone who has followed this affair for the past 7 years knows well. Until a real reconstruction as opposed to the BBC Crimewatch farce, takes place in situ with the former arguidos and Tapas 7, until major key witnesses are reinterviewed like the Smiths, and until the Portuguese PJ and politicians stop being subservient ostriches with their heads buried in the sand towards the English powers and conniving with the McCann's sham this circus will last another 7 years.

Further notes: Others, except maybe Redwood and his team, would question the authenticity of those calls and its provenance, it's not the first time that hysterical British tourists try to kidnap soccer player's children thinking that a 2 year old boy could be Maddie, or that we hear about fake Maddie sightings being planted (Método 3 style - the Mccanns hired detectives) following the annual McCann media blitz or similar Clarence Mitchell PR stunts. It's also not the first time that we have had the knowledge of actions being taken by McCann couple supporters like the HTFM pyramidal structure group [http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/02/maddie-htfm-cyber-warriors-promoting.html] who tried to en masse delete youtube videos about the McCann affair circa 2008. 

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Post by 1soapy on 18.05.14 23:24

Didn't this chap go to another European country or home? Could the accident have been there or is it definitely confirmed by (the PJ?) that it was in Portugal? Wasn't there interviews with his relatives?

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Post by Guest on 19.05.14 7:59

Well, can't find diddly squat about further details of this so called tractor accident.

The majority of recent reports say it was a 'Freak tractor accident' and that's about it. 

Nothing seemed to be reported at the time when it was claimed this freak accident actually happened.

Does seem a bit suspicious. 

I reckon this guy was bumped off.

Gerry wasn't in the vicinity around that time driving a tractor full throttle was he?

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Post by Guest on 19.05.14 9:05

Cheers for the link. Have read it before but doesn't really answer anything i want to know...

It doesn't go in detail about this so called tractor accident. Nothing i can find does.

So the widow has evidence that he was at home, 9pm on the 3rd of May. Evidence as in he wrote a poem on the computer. However she has waited 7 years to come up with that one? Hardly evidence as it's her say so that he did. 

The widow has published a book..... What? A nobody (no disrespect) tragically dies, gets linked to the most famous missing person case then she decided to do a 'Kate' and write a book about how wonderful her husband was?

How many copies has she sold of that i wonder? Trying to cash in by the looks of it. Using her dead hubby to make a few bob.

Now what if Euclides wanted to make a few bob too back in the day. Clearly has a bit of a history. Sounds like he would do anything for some extra spend.

Now what if he was paid by someone to do something that goes back to the 3rd of May 2007. Could of been something before the 3rd.

Maybe he was contacted and paid to help out and assist in some way. On a need to know only basis.  

Maybe someone knew that he would do anything for cash. Won't ask questions as long as he is paid to do a certain task.

Maybe further down the line he found out a lot more and was demanding more money. Holding certain people to ransom.

Maybe further down the line he made a lot of people angry.

Maybe further down the line he had to be taken care of in case he told what he knew.

So further down the line he 'accidentally dies in a freak accident involving a tractor'  

Just purporting a theory as to why this guy seems to be of significance if the PJ re-opened the investigation based on his phone records and links to the OC.

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Post by Guest on 19.05.14 9:28

@Mirage wrote:I have googled in Portuguese,  "Man dies in freak tractor accident Algarve 2009" and many other permutations, sometimes including the name; sometimes not. I left the year out sometimes too.  Zilch comes up.

Something not ringing right here.

I feel the tractor accident thing is like somebody trying to force a narrative beyond the bounds of credibility and into parody. I mean, the thing shouldn't be and indeed isn't even remotely funny but it does have a comedic ring to it (witness Blackadder's "And I hope your mother dies in a freak yachting accident").

Ernest Hemingway said that all writers should be equipped with a built in shockproof shit detector. I'm no great writer but then clearly neither was the author of this farce or they would have reigned themselves in long before involving tractors, surely?

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Post by aquila on 19.05.14 9:45

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Mirage wrote:I have googled in Portuguese,  "Man dies in freak tractor accident Algarve 2009" and many other permutations, sometimes including the name; sometimes not. I left the year out sometimes too.  Zilch comes up.

Something not ringing right here.

I feel the tractor accident thing is like somebody trying to force a narrative beyond the bounds of credibility and into parody. I mean, the thing shouldn't be and indeed isn't even remotely funny but it does have a comedic ring to it (witness Blackadder's "And I hope your mother dies in a freak yachting accident").

Ernest Hemingway said that all writers should be equipped with a built in shockproof shit detector. I'm no great writer but then clearly neither was the author of this farce or they would have reigned themselves in long before involving tractors, surely?
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