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Those ExclusivePix photos of Operation Grange at work in Portugal...

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Post by Nereid on 10.05.14 12:41

His website gives the registration number of Exclusive Pix as 7453333. This is a unique number and is linked to the Exclusive Pix company set up by Nick York in 2010 and which was dissolved in 2012.  https://www.duedil.com/company/07453333/exclusive-pix-limited

He has since set up another company on 19 December 2013 called NDY Media Limited with its own unique registration number 8820780.  https://www.duedil.com/company/08820780/ndy-media-limited

Why he is still trading under Exclusive Pix with registration number 7453333 is anyone's guess.

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Post by Guest on 10.05.14 12:43

@Tony Bennett wrote:

From what I'd seen and read, I thought you were supposed to snort cocaine through your nose 

That man is not AR: it's Junior sans sunglasses

Nice face; something of a cross between princes William and Harry

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 10.05.14 12:47

Whether it means anything or not, but the two main pictures we're talking about here are SY right outside the PJ in Faro.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@37.014763,-7.935146,3a,75y,333.95h,76.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh2cC81gudPAEGFgrk4AoOg!2e0

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Post by Guest on 10.05.14 12:51

@TheTruthWillOut wrote:Whether it means anything or not, but the two main pictures we're talking about here are SY right outside the PJ in Faro.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@37.014763,-7.935146,3a,75y,333.95h,76.7t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sh2cC81gudPAEGFgrk4AoOg!2e0

So the pizzahut is probably the same venue as last time

So were these pictures taken then or just now?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.05.14 12:55

@Trainer wrote:If you wanted to keep a watchful eye on the boys from the yard why not hire a "pap" ? 
No one gives them a second thought when they go snapping away , if the pictures are really worth money would there not be more of them on the ground? What we see on the web will be a very small proportion of what has been taken, no need to breach secrecy the pap on the ground only need to be told to cover all search areas. 
All IMHO of course

If you look at Martin Front's 'it's a PR disaster' report on Sky News you will see 'paps' outside the 'restaurant', with cameras, peering through the window at the 'elites'

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Post by TheTruthWillOut on 10.05.14 13:01

I have no idea Portia. It all just seems beautifully controlled to me though. Whether it is a real investigation or a whitewash to end all whitewashes I just don't know.

It will be interesting what tone the reports (if we get any) from the press will be like.

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Post by russiandoll on 10.05.14 15:21

@Portia wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:

From what I'd seen and read, I thought you were supposed to snort cocaine through your nose 

That man is not AR: it's Junior sans sunglasses

Nice face; something of a cross between princes William and Harry

 

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Post by Guest on 10.05.14 15:27

From the way SY are dressed, I gather the child is dead and they know it; they clearly don't want to look disrespectful (= too holidayish) in case she's found now

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Post by lj on 10.05.14 17:33

@Tony Bennett wrote:ExclusivePix - always there for you in the right place, at the right time, when it's really important for the British public to know how hard you're working to find out what really happened to a missing 3-year-old.

ExclusivePix must surely have a contract with DCI Andy Redwood and his superiors to provide exactly the photos the Met wants the public wants to see  - and no other photos?     

So, in this case which is unique in so many respects already, is this the first occasion in which a British detective team, poking their unwanted noses into a foreign investigation (into an abduction and/or murder), briefs and sends their chosen photographer to record photos of them:

* walking with big cases

* walking again somewhere else with more big cases

* being seen in a helicopter (which is probably not achieving anything except giving the tabloids another pic), and

* having breakfast?

By the way, exactly what is it that DCI Redwood has in his mouth?







Who is the man with glasses that seems to be hiding, on about elbow height of the others. Does he have a video camera?

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Post by lj on 10.05.14 17:49

@Tony Bennett wrote:ExclusivePix - always there for you in the right place, at the right time, when it's really important for the British public to know how hard you're working to find out what really happened to a missing 3-year-old.

ExclusivePix must surely have a contract with DCI Andy Redwood and his superiors to provide exactly the photos the Met wants the public wants to see  - and no other photos?     

So, in this case which is unique in so many respects already, is this the first occasion in which a British detective team, poking their unwanted noses into a foreign investigation (into an abduction and/or murder), briefs and sends their chosen photographer to record photos of them:

* walking with big cases

* walking again somewhere else with more big cases

* being seen in a helicopter (which is probably not achieving anything except giving the tabloids another pic), and

* having breakfast?

By the way, exactly what is it that DCI Redwood has in his mouth?







He is trying the sardines ....

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Post by lj on 10.05.14 17:50

@Mirage wrote:
Bellisa wrote:Had a look through the exclusive pix websites and it does appear that they have been hired by SY. Especially so when we see they are not being constantly 'papped' throughout their visit,just a couple of photos to show they mean business.

I feel depressed reading some of your posts tony as despite not wanting to believe you are right,it seems you are.

Bellisa, I suggest you don't read Pat Brown's blog. That is very depressing.

Indeed it is, but I think she's right.

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Post by lj on 10.05.14 17:56

Bellisa wrote:Too late Mirage:-(
Its all personal opinion at the end of the day but sometimes the truth is staring at us in the face and Im getting so fed up with trying to make excuses for what is going on.

The only thing is from looking at the ofm fb page the webmaster is getting more irate by the hour. If this is a whitewash they are getting rattled for reasons unknown.

I think they the conning couple and their disciples are seeing now the cover up —whitewash— was never to protect them. It is to protect all those, who stuck out their necks and went at times well beyond the line what is legal, all those who helped them and believed in them.

No doubt their megalomania thought it was all about them and they were untouchable. Now they start to realize they might be the next sacrifice.

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Post by lj on 10.05.14 18:00

@tigger wrote:First picture I think is two photographers , why they're walking bent forward I don't know. Slice of a head as well so could be three photographers or nr 6 of the team or bit of hair loooks like a woman.

Love the confab picture, bent forward, intense looks!

I thought so too. Or maybe the guy with the head low is the one wearing short and he seems to be carrying one of those big video cameras.

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Post by ChippyM on 10.05.14 19:04

Andrew77R wrote:Has this photo been Mcphotoshopped...

Like PM said, it's a bit bizarre.

The guy with the camera next to Redwood. Where are his legs, feet. Doesn't look like there is any room to walk next to Redwood there otherwise he would be walking in the bushes.

The woman at the back. Again no legs, feet...

The guy in the middle. White shirt, pink tie. He doesn't look like he is walking... Both feet almost together... No strides like the others.. 

Redwood's legs look a bit awkward too..


  What possible reason would there be to mess about photoshopping these photos? People seem to want to shout 'photoshop' and find things 'weird' in photos whilst giving very little consideration how a 2 dimensional image can look 'weird' with absolutely no help from anyone what so ever.

You can see what appears to be a blue jeans covered leg belonging to the pap next to Redwood down near the curb stone of the flowerbed. You can also make out Redwoods black trouser covered right leg, the knee is bending but is obscured by another SY guys suit case, you can also see the Redwoods left ankle although the rest of that leg is again obscured by the suitcase.There are also shadows cast over these areas by other group members. There are no missing legs. If it looks like there 'no room' for him to walk there that is due to perspective, if we were closer to the man in question, say in front of them, it would probably look a lot more spaced out.

  The guy with 2 feet together could have just paused because there is something stuck to his shoe or he is trying to adjust something he's carrying.

 A staged photo opportunity by SY - yes, photoshopped, I don't think so.

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Post by Cristobell on 10.05.14 19:15

I haven't voted, both answers were a tad biased!

We know so little about the real investigation, I think it unfair to comment negatively at this stage.  Its good that SY know the public will not be fobbed off, but wrong to presume that the motives of these guys is to cover up the death of a child.  They look like ordinary fellows doing a job to me, and why not make use of the local cafes, isn't that what the rest of us do?  For what they are doing, the helicopter ride makes perfect sense, imo, they are trying to bring this matter to a close. 

I don't discard the possibility of a whitewash altogether, but at this stage I think the net is tightening in on the real villains.

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Post by ChippyM on 10.05.14 19:36

I agree with you Cristobell. The helicopter was most likely to be narrowing down search areas before taking action on the ground. If anyone has ever watched Time team, they will know that investigators don't just dig vast swathes of land, they use surveying methods to target mush smaller areas that then take days to investigate. Was the purpose to take a closer look at areas they have been tipped off on?
   Andy Redwood seems to have an extremely serious look on his face and I don't believe all the PJ and Sy at war rubbish in the papers, it's spin IMO.  All along SY have said the burglars and others were not the only lines of enquiry.

As another poster said , I refuse to believe in a white wash until the fat lady has finished singing!

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Post by tigger on 10.05.14 19:37

[quote="Cristobell"]I haven't voted, both answers were a tad biased!

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I don't discard the possibility of a whitewash altogether, but at this stage I think the net is tightening in on the real villains.[b]

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Isn't that a contradiction in terms? Either it's a possible whitewash or the net is tighening but both at the same time seem to be cancelling each other out.

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Post by ShuBob on 10.05.14 19:43

@ChippyM wrote:I agree with you Cristobell. The helicopter was most likely to be narrowing down search areas before taking action on the ground. If anyone has ever watched Time team, they will know that investigators don't just dig vast swathes of land, they use surveying methods to target mush smaller areas that then take days to investigate. Was the purpose to take a closer look at areas they have been tipped off on?
   Andy Redwood seems to have an extremely serious look on his face and I don't believe all the PJ and Sy at war rubbish in the papers, it's spin IMO.  All along SY have said the burglars and others were not the only lines of enquiry.

As another poster said , I refuse to believe in a white wash until the fat lady has finished singing!

Amen  yes 

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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.05.14 19:53

@Cristobell wrote:I haven't voted, both answers were a tad biased!

We know so little about the real investigation,

Quite to the contrary, we know a great deal about it, far more than we get to find out in most investigations.

We know about numbers of:

* lines of enquiry
* actions
* mobile phone records to search
* countries to which ILORs have been sent
* sex offenders being traced
* persons of interest being eliminated
* interviews carried out
* statements taken
* suspects
* visits to the Algarve by DCI Redwood
and so on

We also know:

* How much it's costing
* How many detectives are on the case
* That Jane Tanner was right - she saw crecheman 
and so on

And we know either directly from them, or indirectly from others (i.e. leaks) what their main lines of enquiry are or have been:

* Smelly bin-man
* Tractorman
* A man claimed to have been seen by an Irish family
* Two different e-fits of what is supposed to be the same man
* 4 blond men
* A 'soothing couple'
* A bloke with keys
* 3 burglars 
and so on
* 6 men in a white van
and so on.

I think it unfair to comment negatively at this stage.

It's only 'fair' to comment positively? We must look at the evidence for whether this is a sincere investigation or not. And whether or not it is actually getting anywhere. I fail to see how 8 detectives flying out for less than 48 hours, and either going for a helicopter ride or getting the Portuguese Air Force to take pictures is leading us anywhere except, once more, the continued influencing of public pereception. Really, what is that helicopter ride going to find out? If say ground was disturbed 7 years ago, what signs will there be after all this time? Plus we have mountains of evidence now that there is virtually nil co-operation between the two police forces. Isn't the belief that all is going swimmingly - and that they are marching on towards arrests, chargings and convictions - simply based on hope and not any actual evidence?  
 

It's good that SY know the public will not be fobbed off,

They have been for 7 years

but wrong to presume that the motives of these guys is to cover up the death of a child.  

Wrong - unless of course there is evidence for that presumption

They look like ordinary fellows doing a job to me,

Not to me at all

and why not make use of the local cafes, isn't that what the rest of us do?  

I've no problem with that. Except that it looks like a photo shoot. How many groups of detectives on a serious enquiry go into cafes and restaurants for a chat? There was no-one else in the cafe, I think, apart from two members of staff doing very little.   
For what they are doing, the helicopter ride makes perfect sense, imo, they are trying to bring this matter to a close. 

I don't discard the possibility of a whitewash altogether, but at this stage I think the net is tightening in on the real villains.

I really wonder what actual evidence you have for that line of thinking? 

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Post by ChippyM on 10.05.14 20:03

Something I noticed from this article.

"After meeting with the Judicial Police, three investigators from Scotland Yard did yesterday afternoon an air radiography to the places where they want to do searches to find the body of Madeleine McCann in Praia da Luz, Lagos. In air mission, accompanied by PJ, we used an Air Force helicopter whose service to the CM found, will be paid by the British authorities, as well as other steps that will be performed in Portuguese territory. Aerial operation occurred when the population of Praia da Luz hoped searches on land. Inside the helicopter, one Alouette III Air Force typically used for instruction and search and rescue, were three members of Scotland Yard and the PJ. Two of them made ​​several photographs of places of potential interest for future searches. 's goal was to understand if there are gaps in areas of land which are compatible with a place where it was buried a body. This radiograph is considered essential by the British to advance the search field next to the Ocean Club, where they plan to use dogs and georadar. Listed for measures applied by the English, know the CM, are still questioning eight people, of various nationalities, to reside in the Algarve, following the line of research based on a sexual predator that went into several houses. Though this sudden breakthrough in the investigations, it is not certain that new developments happening in the coming days.

Ler mais em: http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/buscas-aereas-por-maddie-081006310 "

    Looking at the pictures of SY arriving in January, we see 4 men including Redwood all looking very police like and professional in their suits and ties. These latest photos show 2 extra to the team, a man in casual shorts carrying equipment and another, shaven headed, suited and sunglasses wearing man.  

   It seems probable that the casually dressed man is some kind of expert in doing air surveys and was one of those three in the helicopter, the second was probably the shaven headed man who was not in Portugal in January, I would be interested to know what his particular expertise is within SY.  To me this suggests they really were looking for something.

 The 'questioning 8 suspects' is also interesting as it is quite specific but could be a translation cock-up.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.05.14 20:05

@ChippyM wrote:I agree with you Cristobell. The helicopter was most likely to be narrowing down search areas before taking action on the ground. If anyone has ever watched Time team, they will know that investigators don't just dig vast swathes of land, they use surveying methods to target mush smaller areas that then take days to investigate. Was the purpose to take a closer look at areas they have been tipped off on?

Can you explain why the helicopter 'search', such as it was, had to be done in a blaze of publicity and a plethora of photographs, with 8 detectives in suits and with briefcases also being photographed withersoever they go?  Instead of what usually happens - the preparatory work done in secret, and any news only being released when an actual dig starts? (Not that I am convinced there will ever be a dig)  

Andy Redwood seems to have an extremely serious look on his face

Ian Huntley had the same serious, earnest look with a furrowed forehead in the weeks before he was arrested
 

and I don't believe all the PJ and Sy at war rubbish in the papers, it's spin IMO.  All along SY have said the burglars and others were not the only lines of enquiry.

Honestly, ChippyM, two police forces who are working well together do not row in public frequently, as has happened for months now. The PJ issuing warnings of complete non-co-operation. Scotland Yard, every time they speak, criticising the Portuguese police for not agreeing a joint investigation, doing things their own silly way, going much too slowly, and then, to cap it all, saying: "We think your lines of enquiry are complete rubbish". SY have produced statement after statement claiming that the two forces are co-operating 'ever more closely', etc. etc. They are lying - and trying to paper over cracks between the two forces that are plainly as wide as the Grand Canyon      

As another poster said , I refuse to believe in a white wash until the fat lady has finished singing!

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Post by Guest on 10.05.14 20:10

It's clear to me that Tony is right. I hope to god that Pat Brown isn't.

Too depressing.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 10.05.14 20:16

@ChippyM wrote:Something I noticed from this article:.

[Scotland Yard's] goal was to understand if there are gaps in areas of land which are compatible with a place where a body was buried.

REPLY: This is well beyond the ridiculous. There is an area of land of no more than an acre or two where they want to look for 'gaps in areas of land'. Even allowing for a translation error here, what was the need for an all-expenses trip by 8 detectives and a helicopter flight?

Two years or more ago, Redwood - if he seriously thought that a search of that area was necessary, which I very much doubt -   could have simply asked for permission to search that area and quietly organised a radar search, dig, or whatever else he wanted to do.

But, hey, no.

Let's leak a story to the McCanns and the Sunday Mirror days before we go, giving time for all the other papers to cover this on their front pages for days. Then let's 8 of us go, for basically two nights, and  flaunt ourselves flying in a miltary helicopter. And then go back.

All, all just for show
     
 

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Post by ChippyM on 10.05.14 20:22

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@ChippyM wrote:Something I noticed from this article:.

[Scotland Yard's] goal was to understand if there are gaps in areas of land which are compatible with a place where a body was buried.

REPLY: This is well beyond the ridiculous. There is an area of land of no more than an acre or two where they want to look for 'gaps in areas of land'. Even allowing for a translation error here, what was the need for an all-expenses trip by 8 detectives and a helicopter flight?

Two years or more ago, Redwood - if he seriously thought that a search of that area was necessary, which I very much doubt -   could have simply asked for permission to search that area and quietly organised a radar search, dig, or whatever else he wanted to do.

But, hey, no.

Let's leak a story to the McCanns and the Sunday Mirror days before we go, giving time for all the other papers to cover this on their front pages for days. Then let's 8 of us go, for basically two nights, and  flaunt ourselves flying in a miltary helicopter. And then go back.

All, all just for show
     
 

  I don't think we know what areas of land they want to search. Most of the stuff coming from the UK news is variations of the original Mirror story. If they did want to search land, they have to narrow it down. 

  I agree that there were staged photo ops but that could be because the Met have been under critiscism for spending and not getting any where, they may want to show that they are actually doing something physical.

I don't think any of us can say with certainty that it's ALL for show as we don't know what's been going on behind the scenes, we can guess but that's all it is.

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Post by Atomic Peanut on 10.05.14 20:22

@ChippyM wrote:As another poster said , I refuse to believe in a white wash until the fat lady has finished singing!
Perhaps those of you who believe a whitewash is in progress would explain exactly how that whitewash will conclude?

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