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Post by PeterMac on Thu May 08, 2014 4:37 pm

Nothing about the distress they have caused to
Dr Amaral (including forcing him to defend himself at considerable expense)
Tony Bennett, (including effectively "stealing" a third of his Old Age Pension)
The owner of apartment 5A (including making it unsaleable for the foreseeable future)
People with businesses in Praia da Luz
The Priest
Their remaining Twins, who now fear that bogeyman will steal into their bedroom during the night and take them away for burial
and many more

So the parents are only now feeling "distress".

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Post by mouse on Thu May 08, 2014 4:37 pm

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https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

Grrr... they make me feel so angry sometimes with their sanctimonious drivel.
I know, and I reckon the editors and journalists feel the same, in fact have felt the same for years....The question is why don't they say anything? Love to hear, or see some of their experiences with the Mccanns - when the cameras stop rolling, and the tapes stop recording...We've seen a few snippets, but there's gotta be a load of fly on the wall stuff about....Probably be worth a bit one day....

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Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 4:38 pm

Didn't Kate say/write somewhere, that Maddie took off her (KHs) engagement ring as she was won't to do?

It would seem odd if KH had appeared without her wedding ring, after the facts;
But an engagement ring?

Who would have noticed, or paid any attention?

UNLESS you buried it together with one or more other objects, or even, God forbid, as a love gift to accompany a very dear deceased person

Now, that would come as a surprise to some, if the diggers retrieved it for you!

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Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 4:45 pm

@Portia wrote:Didn't Kate say/write somewhere, that Maddie took off her (KHs) engagement ring as she was won't to do?

It would seem odd if KH had appeared without her wedding ring, after the facts;
But an engagement ring?

Who would have noticed, or paid any attention?

UNLESS you buried it together with one or more other objects, or even, God forbid, as a love gift to accompany a very dear deceased person

Now, that would come as a surprise to some, if the diggers retrieved it for you!
That riddler who is back and is being discussed in the Members lounge riddled something about rings. Might be what your purporting..

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Post by Jauna Loca on Thu May 08, 2014 4:47 pm

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.


Yet they were happy enough to have the media warn the burglars/Tractorman/Smellyman that SY were coming to get them and did not feel this jeprodised the investigation!

I read the Sun article and the Mirror article yesterday.Big difference I thought. One full of McSpin. Expensive digs using speciality equipment being undretaken and the McSpin was "just routine,
doing what the (bungling) Portugese should have done at the beginning, no new information, not searching for a body, just digging for clues" - in short they'd have us believe the MET are off
with shovels and spades to build sandcastles. The Sun quoted sources close to family as saying this. 

The Mirror article much more balanced IMO- less McSpin and pointedly stated in two separate places that neither SY or PJ were commenting on the investigation- in other words, all McSpeculation.
Led readers to believe that a body was being sought.  

Wonder which one distressed the McCanns? Do they really think we'd believe the "just routine" bull?

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Post by stillsloppingout on Thu May 08, 2014 4:52 pm

I know, and I reckon the editors and journalists feel the same, in fact have felt the same for years....The question is why don't they say anything? Love to hear, or see some of their experiences with the Mccanns - when the cameras stop rolling, and the tapes stop recording...We've seen a few snippets, but there's gotta be a load of fly on the wall stuff about....Probably be worth a bit one day....

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@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:


https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

Grrr... they make me feel so angry sometimes with their sanctimonious drivel.mouse
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@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:To be perfectly honest, I believe that this message:


https://www.facebook.com/Official.Find.Madeleine.Campaign

7th of May 2014 - Media Interference

We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case. There is an on-going, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her. As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.

Thank you.

Gerry and Kate

willl royally f**k off every single editor and journalist who has been bowing to the whims of Team McCann and Clarence Mitchell since 2007.

On their own heads be it.

Grrr... they make me feel so angry sometimes with their sanctimonious drivel.

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Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 4:55 pm

In Holland they just dug up two missing boys who disappeared 7 years ago

Their graves were deeper than 1.50 m

Their bones were recovered and sent to the dutch forensic institute; determined it was them within a day

Interesting times ahead


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Post by margaret on Thu May 08, 2014 4:55 pm

@jeanmonroe wrote:
In case one of the 'elite Maddie Cops' slips off , down to the beach, or other sites, suggested by their 'clients' the McCanns, and 'deposits' 'something' (childs bones?? brought from UK?) and then 'suggests' the PJ 'dig/scan here' and 'miraculously' discover 'something'

all 'supposition' from me i might add.

But i know how the Met 'work' from experience.

But the PJ would want the bones testing for DNA and it would show if those bones hadn't been in the soil/sand there.

I've seen a few posters say this and l can't believe it would happen in such a high profile case for a second.

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Post by canada12 on Thu May 08, 2014 5:03 pm

A thought...

Are Carter Ruck really still being retained by the McCanns? It's awfully expensive to keep a firm of lawyers on standby. Are we seeing that the press are testing the waters to find out what they can report without being threatened?

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Post by tasprin on Thu May 08, 2014 5:04 pm

ITV News

Thu 8 May 2014

Madeleine McCann police arrive in Portugal

Portuguese air force helicopter used in Madeleine probe
Last updated Thu 8 May 2014 World

In the latest stage of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, police today commissioned a Portuguese air force helicopter to fly low over Praia da Luz taking photographs of areas of interest to the inquiry.

An Alouette helicopter was seen flying above the beach and other areas close to where Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It comes as work is planned to search the area around the holiday apartment the family were staying in.

Ground-penetrating radar is expected to be used to assess certain areas, including a road that had been dug up at the time 3-year-old Madeleine vanished.

British detectives are currently in the Algarve and this morning met with counterparts from the Policia Judiciaria.

Neither country's officers would offer a view on how the almost four-hour meeting went.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-05-08/portuguese-air-force-helicopter-used-in-madeleine-probe/

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Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

Post by noddy100 on Thu May 08, 2014 5:07 pm

An irish radio show had a phone in re The McCanns today I tried to link it but it didn't work 
Will try again as it is very interesting 

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Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 5:12 pm

somebody already linked noddy 100 but im sure it'll be available as a podcast later. Niall on classic hits 4fm(sorry havnt got link at mo).

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Post by noddy100 on Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm

I can't get it to work
Basically a phone in re neglect and a poll in which 89% of those who voted said
they thought the parents were involved in her disappearance

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Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 5:13 pm

@tasprin wrote:ITV News

Thu 8 May 2014

Madeleine McCann police arrive in Portugal

Portuguese air force helicopter used in Madeleine probe
Last updated Thu 8 May 2014 World

In the latest stage of the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, police today commissioned a Portuguese air force helicopter to fly low over Praia da Luz taking photographs of areas of interest to the inquiry.

An Alouette helicopter was seen flying above the beach and other areas close to where Madeleine disappeared in May 2007.

It comes as work is planned to search the area around the holiday apartment the family were staying in.

Ground-penetrating radar is expected to be used to assess certain areas, including a road that had been dug up at the time 3-year-old Madeleine vanished.

British detectives are currently in the Algarve and this morning met with counterparts from the Policia Judiciaria.

Neither country's officers would offer a view on how the almost four-hour meeting went.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-05-08/portuguese-air-force-helicopter-used-in-madeleine-probe/

Gerry McCann: We were expecting a Metropolitan type response and I remember saying to the officers “where’s the helicopters? I want helicopters with heat seeking equipment.” And ye know the officer kind of laughed at us and said “you know this isn’t you know we don’t have a Royal Navy” and this thing... and you just... and I’m sure every single parent can understand this because everyone has lost a child momentarily and the terror and how frightening it is, be it in a supermarket or a playground or a park, and you just want everything done and you want... you want the world to stop, and, and scream, and the response ye know was slow. And that’s been one of the hardest things for us, because ye know, Madeleine could have been moved very easily and the Spanish border is only about 90 minutes away and obviously you are on the Mediterranean, and one of the aspects of why we are campaigning internationally is because she could have been taken anywhere.

Oh those ITV News troublemakers telling such blatant fibs ...Portugal don't have helicopters!

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Post by tasprin on Thu May 08, 2014 5:17 pm

Press Gazette

McCanns say they are 'dismayed' at 'media interference' in new Madeleine investigation

Dominic Ponsford
08 May 2014


The parents of Madeleine McCann have accused journalists of ‘interference’ in the renewed investigation into the disappearance of their daughter.

Scotland Yard detectives are now in Portugal amid reports that, working with Portuguese counterparts, they will begin excavating a number of sites around the resort of Praia da Luz where three-year-old Madeleine went missing on 3 May, 2007.

This week there have been extensive reports and speculation about the new investigation prompting fears that the Portuguese police may their suspend activities.

In a statement Gerry and Kate McCann said: “We are dismayed with the way the media has behaved over the last couple of days in relation to our daughter’s case.

“There is an ongoing, already challenging, police investigation taking place and media interference in this way not only makes the work of the police more difficult, it can potentially damage and destroy the investigation altogether – and hence the chances of us finding Madeleine and discovering what has happened to her.

“As Madeleine’s parents, this just compounds our distress. We urge the media to let the police get on with their work and please show some respect and consideration to Madeleine and all our family.”

Concerns about media reports were outlined in a letter to editors sent by a Met assistant commissioner Mark Rowley on Tuesday. In it he said that Portuguese police do not want to brief journalists about the ongoing investigation, adding: “if we provide any briefings or information on the work they are undertaking on our behalf, or if reporters cause any disruption to their work in Portugal activity will cease until that problem dissipates”.

He added:
"It is important you understand this and appreciate the position in which I find myself. We will not be able to provide any information concerning the activity because ultimately it could mean the work stops. We respect the Portuguese position as we would expect them to respect our position if we were carrying out work on their behalf in the UK. The most important task for me is to build momentum and protect our investigation given the many lines of enquiry that we see are necessary in order that we can do everything possible to solve the case. I ask that you support me and my team in those efforts. This includes respecting the requests of the Portuguese authorities during the work they will be carrying out on our behalf. As well as being aware of the dangers of disrupting the work of the Portuguese, I would also ask you to think carefully about the information you decide to put in to the public domain. Although we will continue not to comment on specific information I would ask you to think twice about what impact that information or speculation might have on the investigation if it is published or broadcast. We do not want to undermine our prospects of providing Mr and Mrs McCann with answers in this tragic case. Collectively we all need to think carefully about our actions in this case".
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/mccanns-say-they-are-dismayed-media-interference-new-madeleine-investigation

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Post by stillsloppingout on Thu May 08, 2014 5:18 pm

The PJ have asked for privacy re reporting , which of course will NOT be adhered to in the MSM, as SY have to keep the pretence they are in control up, which in turn to keep the McCann's in the loop too. 

The trouble is [ especially for SY and Clarrie and the McC's ]  there are hundreds more PAP agencies now than in 2007 .

  Words can be denied ,spun, suppressed ,but they can never stop a picture from entering the public domain especially these days         [ don't forget seven years ago twitter was barley known ] and as a picture says a thousand words , any " NEWS " will be out there quick as a flash, via social media , plus there is always a mag or paper somewhere, that will take stuff off limits these days . [ sorry but an exclusive Maddie grave discovery shot ,would be worth hundreds of thousands of pounds  ]

 as i have mentioned the digging is mostly if not all ,on public highway, so they can not stop pics being taken ,even the staffers these days are more aggressive ,as they tend to be mostly freelancers , who have to put up with the nut job paps who will be as we speak arriving en mass.

It will NOT be like 2007 . they will be hounded and pursued whether they like it or not .

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Post by Guest on Thu May 08, 2014 5:20 pm

A buried body can be visible from the air as plants growing over the body will be more lush than those surrounding it but does anybody know how long for?

(I tried googling but just kept getting zombie stuff)

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Post by Mirage on Thu May 08, 2014 6:04 pm

@noddy100 wrote:I can't get it to work
Basically a phone in re neglect and a poll in which 89% of those who voted said
they thought the parents were involved in her disappearance

You didn't miss much noddy100 from the little I heard. The presenter was clueless and had obviously done no research. Despite this he kept chipping in with wrong information. I caught some of it towards the end when there was one articulate lady who had some idea at least. She was pro prosecuting for neglect. A man kept proclaiming they shouldn't be prosecuted on the grounds that that would be crucifying them - haven't they suffered enough etc. He sounded not long back from the pub to me.

In the round up, the presenter said the majority of calls and texts were in favour of prosecution for neglect so I guess there was a lot of anti-McCann sentiment.

Lazy journalism gets on my nerves.

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Post by Ayniia on Thu May 08, 2014 6:08 pm

Well these are interesting times indeed. Some days ago we get the news about the dig being approved. Yesterday news said: dig approved, dates to be set. Today there's the whole fanfare in Faro and helicopter and all... things are moving fast.
I agree with what other posters said before, this is a show. IMO a lot was already done and probably things were already unearthed and all this is just to show it was a "joint investigation ". IMO no body will be found, I don't believe there's a body anymore, but some kind of evidence,  probably. I don't think all this will end with: been there, made some holes, found nothing. The PJ wouldn't allow this circus just to put up a show for the media without any valid basis. No way. They must have some strong leads, I'm thinking maybe someone talked and the urgency /media attention will help preventing someone from fetching back whatever the police is looking for. All IMO of course.
Also a question, some pages back, can't find now the topic is moving too fast, someone was saying they should look in an area called Boavista/Belavista? near a golf course, is that the same area the mediums signaled in the Portuguese tv show "ate a verdade "? I'm curious because I know most people don't believe in such things, but those two guys said some things that fit my idea of what happened .
And as someone also noted, that "and hence " in the Mccanns statement made me sick. I can't believe that was innocent. And it wasn't funny at all. When I read it my eyes couldn't believe it, I thought I was dreaming or hallucinating.

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Post by Tony Bennett on Thu May 08, 2014 6:22 pm

@mouse wrote:
@kevmack wrote:
@mouse wrote:
Hate to say it - but it's not beyond the realms. After all, wasn't this how Barry George found himself incarcerated. I believe, if memory serves me right, that Mr George was visited in prison pre-trial, by an officer (not sure who) and somehow transference of DNA could have happened with a certain exhibit being taken into the prison......And now who was leading the investigation and got Barry George charged and sent down?????

As I said, I might have remembered this wrong, but I'm sure Mr Bennett will put me right.
Sorry, but no, I think that is heading into the realms of pure fantasy, and whilst the Barry George case is open to that interpretation, don't forget there are still many people who believe he is guilty and he was tried in the UK for a crime committed in the UK, this is totally different.  As for the met planting dna in a Portuguese burglar's house, there's no way it would stand up to international legal scrutiny...not in a million years
And there are still many people who believe BG is innocent. Some on this forum. And as for fantasy, the mounting tales of corruption that have come out about the police of late....Maybe we should all keep a very open mind, and not write off someone's opinion as pure fantasy. I can assure I wouldn't fantasize over such a serious issue, or speculate - as many do about what is actually going on at the moment concerning digs. I was only answering Jean - going on what happened on another case involving a certain police officer who is investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance.
By way of brief reply...

It was Hamish Campbell, written about lately be me here:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t9457-a-biography-of-hamish-campbell-the-man-chosen-to-head-operation-grange

...who was quoted a couple of days ago as saying that these new searches/digs in Portugal 'might find something like clothing or equipment'.

Given Hamish Campbell's previous record, I must say that that comment gave me a shudder, since the evidence suggests that he was at the centre of an apparent 'fitting-up' of Barry Bulsara a.k.a. Barry George as the man who shot and killed Jill Dando, an unsolved murder now for over 15 years.

In response to 'mouse', I think the suggestion was that a piece of firearms residue matching the actual gun used to kill Dando may have been placed in Bulsara's coat pocket. I don't think it was about DNA evidence, but then I am not an expert on the Dando murder. It was AFAIK suspicions that this firearms residue might have been planted - and that there was no other credible forensic evidence - that led to the Appeal Court quashing Bulsara's conviction. Bulsara was an obsessive, learning dififculties loner. The killer shot Dando at point blank range with a gun that had been professionally fitted with a silencer, and appeared to have an accomplice who drove off in a blue Range Rover.

Hamish Campbell was the I.O. in the case, Brian Moore was the S.I.O., his boss. As my article says, Moore was at the centre of a case in 1998 where an innocent black man definitely was fitted up by police officers in the corrupt Stoke Newington police station. Following through this line of thought, why did Moore apppoint Hamish Campbell as his I.O.? Maybe because Campbell had done a good job failing to find the riot police officer who smashed John Wilson's head in with a baton, leaving him for dead on the streets (see more in my article).

With his colleague police officer Ian Horrocks, writer of recent rubbish about what happened to Madeleine.

People like Brian Moore and Hamish Campbell appear to be capable of any ruse, howevr wicked, to get the result they want. Which is why Campbell's comment about 'clothes' and 'equipment' are worrying.        

Finally, @kevmack, are there really 'many' people who still think that Bulsara murdered Dando?

Apart from Hamish Campbell and a few of his detective colleagues?

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Post by kevmack on Thu May 08, 2014 6:28 pm

Finally, @kevmack, are there really 'many' people who still think that Bulsara murdered Dando?

Apart from Hamish Campbell and a few of his detective colleagues?
Don't know what happened to my reply there, it disappered.  I obviously cannot answer that Tony, I cannot speak for members of the public, but whilst the Met's methods were dubious, many people believe that they got the right man and it was due to their dubious methods that the conviction was, quite rightly overturned, that doesn't mean that Barry George is innocent.

Anyway, back on topic, I do still have faith in Operation Grange and will do until proven otherwise.

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Post by mouse on Thu May 08, 2014 6:38 pm

Thanks for that Tony, my memory might not have got it completely right, but I think I was almost there. I too can't believe that BG is still thought of by some as the murderer of Jill Dando. Always felt, like the very case we are talking about on this thread, that it didn't smell right. Now we have Hamish working on this one, and like you, when they talked about what they might find - it too made me concerned. BG was an easy target who has never received true justice imo, and now it could appear that they are looking for their BG Mark 2.....Just saying of course.

Sadly this guy's track record just gives me no hope in the investigation by SY, but I would love to be proved wrong. My only hope is that the PJ are working alone on this, and SY are just trying to attach themselves for appearance sake, and keep themselves close....

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Post by Tony Bennett on Thu May 08, 2014 6:38 pm

@Ayniia wrote:Well these are interesting times indeed. Some days ago we get the news about the dig being approved. Yesterday news said: dig approved, dates to be set. Today there's the whole fanfare in Faro and helicopter and all... things are moving fast. I agree with what other posters said before, this is a show. IMO a lot was already done and probably things were already unearthed and all this is just to show it was a "joint investigation".
Yes, very possible.

The whole thing just for show - and the Portuguese know it.

They have agreed, so far as we know, to some kind of limited areas of search which look most unlikely, for all sorts of reasons, to yield anything relevant to the ultimate unravelling of this deep mystery.

I don't know why the PJ have agreed to these searches, but I'm prepared to suggest that they will have laid down one precondition:

"You, Mr Redwood, and your British taxpayers - they will pay all our bills for this".



 So, after today:

INVOICE: PJ to Operation Grange

Item 001: To supplying and flying one helicopter, inclusive of fuel & V.A.T., with crew including photographer @ 8,000 euros per hour at 8 hours:  64,000 euros

Photographs charged at 11.25 euros per photograph

Enlargements: double size: 21.50 euros per photograph; treble size: 31.75 euros per photograph.

Terms: payable by bankers draft or BACS within 7 calendar days.


The Scotland Yard bill for Opertion Grange was rising at about £6,200 a day.

This week, with 8 police officers and some ground-penetrating radar, translators, hotel accommodation, meals and sundries, and not forgetting overtime, the cost will be escalating at a much greater rate than that

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Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

Post by canada12 on Thu May 08, 2014 6:48 pm

@Ayniia wrote:Well these are interesting times indeed. Some days ago we get the news about the dig being approved. Yesterday news said: dig approved, dates to be set. Today there's the whole fanfare in Faro and helicopter and all... things are moving fast.
I agree with what other posters said before, this is a show. IMO a lot was already done and probably things were already unearthed and all this is just to show it was a "joint investigation ". IMO no body will be found, I don't believe there's a body anymore, but some kind of evidence,  probably. I don't think all this will end with: been there, made some holes, found nothing. The PJ wouldn't allow this circus just to put up a show for the media without any valid basis. No way. They must have some strong leads, I'm thinking maybe someone talked and the urgency /media attention will help preventing someone from fetching back whatever the police is looking for. All IMO of course.

If this was a tv cop show,

a) they'd have found incriminating evidence already and removed it. Then they'd have leaked the information in advance that a ground search was about to begin. Then they'd sit back and wait to see who showed up to try and remove things that were previously buried there, and nab them red-handed. Or...

b) they'd have a good idea where incriminating evidence was already. Then they'd have leaked the information that a ground search was about to begin. Then they'd have monitored the "chatter" between suspects to see who was panicking.

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Re: "Maddie cops to start digging at resort"

Post by Mirage on Thu May 08, 2014 6:50 pm

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Ayniia wrote:Well these are interesting times indeed. Some days ago we get the news about the dig being approved. Yesterday news said: dig approved, dates to be set. Today there's the whole fanfare in Faro and helicopter and all... things are moving fast. I agree with what other posters said before, this is a show. IMO a lot was already done and probably things were already unearthed and all this is just to show it was a "joint investigation".
Yes, very possible.

The whole thing just for show - and the Portuguese know it.

They have agreed, so far as we know, to some kind of limited areas of search which look most unlikely, for all sorts of reasons, to yield anything relevant to the ultimate unravelling of this deep mystery.

I don't know why the PJ have agreed to these searches, but I'm prepared to suggest that they will have laid down one precondition:

"You, Mr Redwood, and your British taxpayers - they will pay all our bills for this".



 So, after today:

INVOICE: PJ to Operation Grange

Item 001: To supplying and flying one helicopter, inclusive of fuel & V.A.T., with crew including photographer @ 8,000 euros per hour at 8 hours:  64,000 euros

Photographs charged at 11.25 euros per photograph

Enlargements: double size: 21.50 euros per photograph; treble size: 31.75 euros per photograph.

Terms: payable by bankers draft or BACS within 7 calendar days.


The Scotland Yard bill for Opertion Grange was rising at about £6,200 a day.

This week, with 8 police officers and some ground-penetrating radar, translators, hotel accommodation, meals and sundries, and not forgetting overtime, the cost will be escalating at a much greater rate than that

Sounds as if it could all have been done via video link.

How about the OFM fund chipping in? That would be a nice gesture.

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