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Post by AndyB on 24.04.14 9:04

Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner ­Martin Hewitt wrote:
In the relatively near future, we will start to see activity on behalf of the Portuguese with us involved as potential suspects in connection with 18 incidents
The Met suspect themselves of being paedophiles? Typo or freudian slip?

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Post by Pershing36 on 24.04.14 9:06

Looks like they have found a suitable Patsy, if this article is indeed the truth.

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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 9:10

"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?

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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 9:18

MILLIE wrote:"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?
Most likely offenders.......... Yes the parents. Please can you focus on them for god's sake!!!!!

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Post by russiandoll on 24.04.14 9:23

The Met site states a single suspect linked to 18 break-ins and assaults/ near- miss.  Why then are the media reporting about forthcoming arrestS?

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 9:25

The breakthrough comes after they identified new ­incidents where British girls were targeted by a lone ­paedophile in Portugal.   So the gang of 3 Cleaners, gardeners, van men, bin men have been eliminated ?  Tell us more.
In nine cases in the Algarve girls were sexually assaulted, it has been revealed. Now an elite unit of Scotland Yard officers is ready to fly out to support wide-ranging operations by the Portuguese police.   Is this the same Elite Unit which has been doing nothing for the last 3 years, or a new Elite Unit ?
Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry, who are convinced their little girl will be found alive, welcomed the news yesterday.
Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “Whatever needs to be done on the ground in Portugal needs to be done as effectively and swiftly as ­possible.”   Like seaching the street in the hours after the disappearance, for example ?
Metropolitan Police Deputy Assistant Commissioner ­Martin Hewitt confirmed the authorities in Lisbon have responded positively to a series of “international letters of request” from the Yard.
He said: “In the relatively near future, we will start to see activity on behalf of the Portuguese with us involved as potential suspects in connection with 18 incidents.  Gibberish ! See above
They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders.   Ah.  So these are NOT the most likely offenders. These are people to be Eliminated.  Not arested !
Madeleine was taken from her bedroom in this apartment complex in Praia da Luz, Portugal.   Absolutely correct, and blindingly obvious, since she is not longer there.. But by WHOM ? And when ?
It is understood Portuguese police have DNA from at least one incident.   ONE sample of DNA is entirely useless, unless you have a Second one, against which to compare it !
The speeding up of the investigation comes less than two weeks before the seventh anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance from the McCann ­holiday apartment in Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007 when she was three.
What a f**antasic coincidence !!
A source close to Kate and Gerry McCann, both 45 from Rothley, Leics, said Met officers hoped to be “on the ground in Portugal” for the first time since the squad was formed “within a fortnight”.   This is absolute b*****.  They have visited every month and a half for the last 3 years, and have been extensively photographed on at least one occasion. It is therefor a LIE.
He said: “It appears the Yard have X, Y and Z they want to interview out there but they won’t have the power to do it themselves.
“Any arrests and formal interviews will be conducted by the Portuguese police with Met officers sitting in.”
This is a direct repeat quote from some months ago.
The Yard squad first identified a prolific paedophile as a potential ­suspect last month after a major appeal through newspapers and BBC’s Crimewatch.
At the time, 12 incidents on the Algarve were connected to him, two in Praia da Luz.
The new cases have been added since the appeal, which prompted more than 500 calls and emails.
In particular police heard from a 19-year-old who was sexually assaulted by a lone intruder at a holiday home in the “heart of Praia da Luz” in 2005 when she was 10. It is thought she may have only recently told anyone about her ordeal.
Yard detectives are focusing on 12 of the incidents – nine sex assaults and three “near misses”. The other six incidents happened further away or years after Madeleine was snatched.
All the victims were white, British, aged between six and 12 and were attacked between 2004 and 2006. Not ONE was 3, not ONE was abducted, not ONE was killed, not ONE was sedated, not ONE was . . .
The paedophile – described as smelly and pot-bellied – crept into their ­bedrooms without forcing entry.  The Algarve seems to be awash with Negligent Parents . . .
He spoke ­English with a foreign accent, was tanned, with short, dark, unkempt hair, and reeked of tobacco, stale aftershave or alcohol.
During two incidents, he wore a ­burgundy long-sleeved top. One ­witness said it had a white circle on the back. Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, head of Operation Grange, said several features of the description, the type of offences and the way they were committed point to a lone offender. Again this is a rehash of the previous story from some months ago, rightly ridiculed at the time.

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 9:26

@russiandoll wrote:The Met site states a single suspect linked to 18 break-ins and assaults/ near- miss.  Why then are the media reporting about forthcoming arrestS?
Because it is a made up story.

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Post by Nina on 24.04.14 9:27

MILLIE wrote:"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?
My only hope now is that they are doing just that Millie. Eliminating everyone. And then..........................

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Post by jozi on 24.04.14 9:42

@Nina wrote:
MILLIE wrote:"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?

My only hope now is that they are doing just that Millie. Eliminating everyone. And then..........................

Well we are all hoping for that to happen but how long will it take.....They ( SY) are being made to look stupid here but who is doing it, them (SY) or someone else ?

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Post by russiandoll on 24.04.14 9:49

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@russiandoll wrote:The Met site states a single suspect linked to 18 break-ins and assaults/ near- miss.  Why then are the media reporting about forthcoming arrestS?
Because it is a made up story.

 Yes indeed. Also this   crept into their ­bedrooms without forcing entry is a contradiction of 18 BREAK-INS in another newspaper.

 Did you read the report that said Maddie went missing 2 years BEFORE the 2005 assault in PdL?
 So eager to get the sensational story out that their pieces are not even proof-read properly !

 If the Met is not the origin of the reports, why are they colluding in the crock of you- know -what ?

  Such a lovely Spring day, am out for fresh air. This case is beyond frustrating. I can't fathom the latest developments, the timing with the anniversary and the implausible tales of assaults on children whose parents did and said nothing for years.

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Post by AndyB on 24.04.14 9:53

MILLIE wrote:"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?
It isn't clear from the article who is saying that, Martin Hewitt or the journalist.

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 24.04.14 9:59

Small wonder that the PJ won't let them near the main case. With the anniversary approaching and £10m down the drain, SY is under enormous pressure. They are in fact in something of a panic. The "system" (internationally agreed ILRs) means that they are 100% reliant on the PJ for everything. Their only leads (3 burglars and 1 smellyman) are the longest of long shots but are now getting maximum publicity.

These stories in content and timing are pure PR. Luckily for TM, it is exactly the kind they can willingly endorse - and so up pops Clarence.

The only way this can get worse for SY is if the PJ pull a rabbit from the hat and show that SY have been chasing shadows for 3 years. No sign of that as yet, but it must be their greatest fear.





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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 10:28

MILLIE wrote:"They need to be traced, interviewed and eliminated so inquiries can focus on the most likely offenders".

So the ones getting traced and interviewed are not the most likely offenders then?

Eliminated? Is that allowed under the UK Constitution?

Oh, I forgot; there is none, or is there?

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 10:49

@Portia wrote:
Eliminated? Is that allowed under the UK Constitution?
Oh, I forgot; there is none, or is there?
OFF TOPIC but for information.
There is a Constitution,
But it is to be found in thousands of documents spread over more than 900 years.
Not just on one place.
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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 11:42

@Bishop Brennan wrote:Small wonder that the PJ won't let them near the main case.  With the anniversary approaching and £10m down the drain, SY is under enormous pressure.  They are in fact in something of a panic.  The "system" (internationally agreed ILRs) means that they are 100% reliant on the PJ for everything.   Their only leads (3 burglars and 1 smellyman) are the longest of long shots but are now getting maximum publicity.  

These stories in content and timing are pure PR. Luckily for TM, it is exactly the kind they can willingly endorse - and so up pops Clarence.  

The only way this can get worse for SY is if the PJ pull a rabbit from the hat and show that SY have been chasing shadows for 3 years.  No sign of that as yet, but it must be their greatest fear.

 
 
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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 13:17

It is a disgrace that the McCanns and Mitchell are allowed to get away with this.
PdL is organising a Charity Triathlon this weekend, to try to cheer everyone up before the season starts -

And suddenly the Media are reporting that a load more children were ravished in their beds,

but their parents did nothing - obviously - apart from leave all the doors open


I am interseted that MW and the Symingtons do not seem to be fighting back. The McCanns must have cost them several millions in lost revenue

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Post by lj on 24.04.14 14:20

Once again: people have to prove they are innocent! It's a wonder SY gets any cooperation at all.

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Post by diatribe on 24.04.14 14:31

@Nina wrote:My only hope now is that they are doing just that Millie. Eliminating everyone. And then..........................

If the Met Police had adopted this policy back in 1966, they'd still only be half way through eliminating the pop. of Bethnal Green in their quest to find the killers of George Cornell. big grin

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Post by jeanmonroe on 24.04.14 15:49

DETECTIVES hunting the ­kidnapper of Madeleine McCann are poised to make arrests.
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Is this 'statement' even TRUE?

"the kidnapper"?
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"Madeleine McCann vanished aged three and police are hunting for the person who abducted her"

Is this 'statement' even TRUE?

"the person who abducted her"?

EVIDENCE please, that 'a kidnapper, abducted her', DE.

Just a 'scintilla' of 'evidence' will do!

eta: The McCanns just 'saying' THAT does not count as 'evidence'

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 16:20

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eta: The McCanns just 'saying' THAT does not count as 'evidence'
It is even better / worse than that.
In fact, if we remember back 7 years only ONE person said Madeleine had been Abducted.
Kate.
She says she was there and she knew.
Gerry, as her husband, loyally supported her version of what she said had found and seen, but has and had no independent evidence of his own to add, and by the time he arrived Kate, on her own admission had already started trashing the scene, opening cupboards and hurtling around.  He then ably assisted her in that endeavour.

So we have

Dr Gonçalo Amaral
Paulo Rebelo
Entire team of PJ detectives
João Carlos
Ricardo Paiva - Portuguese Liaison officer,
Paulo Ferreira  
Carlos Pinto de Abreu - Lawyer representing Mccanns   “‘If you were Portuguese, this would be enough to put you in prison.’”
Assistant Chief Constable, (Ops) Leicester,  ‘While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.’
DC Grime - dog handler
Mark Harrison, NPIA advisor on Search
Mr. John Buck - HM Ambassador to Portugal
Unnamed British diplomat - “raised concern about confused declarations . .”
Bill Henderson - British Consul Algarve
John Hill - resort Manager Ocean Club PdL
The Republic's Prosecutor     José de Magalhaes e Menezes
The Joint General Prosecutor     Joao Melchior Gomes      -    archiving report
Appeal court judge
High Court of Portugal
DCI Redwood - “no evidence she left the apartment alive”
And just about everyone else who has ever actually looked at the case or taken it seriously  (Mrs Martorell "Do not have any evidence to give to the court.  Only what I have been told . . .")
Who do NOT support the Abduction theory / working hypothesis,

and ONE who does.  With no supporting evidence whatsoever.

In fact, not only with no supporting evidence, but with a series of lies and clear and obvious changes of story
shutters, curtains, windows, sedation, window of opportunity  . . .
Which makes it absolutely clear that there is NOTHING.    (I hestitate to use the expression "less than nothing" but it does almost seem appropriate here, )[/i]

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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 17:10

There's NOTHING, indeed. No evidence for a kidnap [I don't use the word "abduction" for reason discussed already in the past months ...], no hard evidence for parents' and friends' involvement either ... But that will change. I keep the faith. Truth will out.

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Post by PeterMac on 24.04.14 18:30

Châtelaine wrote:There's NOTHING, indeed. No evidence for a kidnap [I don't use the word "abduction" for reason discussed already in the past months ...], no hard evidence for parents' and friends' involvement either ... But that will change. I keep the faith. Truth will out.

So we have ONE person insisting on "Abduction / kidnapping, who has NOTHING,
against a mountain of real evidence, some of it admittedly negative,
giving details of the way in which the parents lied and prevaricated right from the start,
with deliberate lies from Mitchell about blue tennis bags, and now the Fund was to be spent
about the way in which their infamous and most important photo was fudged / forged / altered
and on and boringly on.

Like you I think that one day the truth will emerge - whatever it might be.
Though when that day might be, I cannot begin to guess.




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Post by Guest on 24.04.14 19:11

@PeterMac wrote:
@Portia wrote:
Eliminated? Is that allowed under the UK Constitution?
Oh, I forgot; there is none, or is there?
OFF TOPIC but for information.
There is a Constitution,
But it is to be found in thousands of documents spread over more than 900 years.
Not just on one place.
Sorry. Back to the topic
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Post by sammyc on 24.04.14 22:01

@PeterMac wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:
eta: The McCanns just 'saying' THAT does not count as 'evidence'
It is even better / worse than that.
In fact, if we remember back 7 years only ONE person said Madeleine had been Abducted.
Kate.
She says she was there and she knew.
Gerry, as her husband, loyally supported her version of what she said had found and seen, but has and had no independent evidence of his own to add, and by the time he arrived Kate, on her own admission had already started trashing the scene, opening cupboards and hurtling around.  He then ably assisted her in that endeavour.

So we have

Dr Gonçalo Amaral
Paulo Rebelo
Entire team of PJ detectives
João Carlos
Ricardo Paiva - Portuguese Liaison officer,
Paulo Ferreira  
Carlos Pinto de Abreu - Lawyer representing Mccanns   “‘If you were Portuguese, this would be enough to put you in prison.’”
Assistant Chief Constable, (Ops) Leicester,  ‘While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance.’
DC Grime - dog handler
Mark Harrison, NPIA advisor on Search
Mr. John Buck - HM Ambassador to Portugal
Unnamed British diplomat - “raised concern about confused declarations . .”
Bill Henderson - British Consul Algarve
John Hill - resort Manager Ocean Club PdL
The Republic's Prosecutor     José de Magalhaes e Menezes
The Joint General Prosecutor     Joao Melchior Gomes      -    archiving report
Appeal court judge
High Court of Portugal
DCI Redwood - “no evidence she left the apartment alive”
And just about everyone else who has ever actually looked at the case or taken it seriously  (Mrs Martorell "Do not have any evidence to give to the court.  Only what I have been told . . .")
Who do NOT support the Abduction theory / working hypothesis,

and ONE who does.  With no supporting evidence whatsoever.

In fact, not only with no supporting evidence, but with a series of lies and clear and obvious changes of story
shutters, curtains, windows, sedation, window of opportunity  . . .
Which makes it absolutely clear that there is NOTHING.    (I hestitate to use the expression "less than nothing" but it does almost seem appropriate here, )[/i]
Absolute brilliance.  C'mon Kate and Gerry - admit this can't be disproven.

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