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BEST CONSPIRACY THEORY YET - Flight MY 370

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BEST CONSPIRACY THEORY YET - Flight MY 370

Post by PeterMac on 13.04.14 21:42


Malaysian airlines true story?
The Americans are withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control systems (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Taliban when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill-top bases. The Taliban ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Taliban wanted was money. They wanted to sell the system to the Russians or the Chinese. The Russians are too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defence scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection.  Meanwhile the Americans had engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they were determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it would be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all, the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the Americans would not hijack or harm the civilians. So MH370 was the perfect carrier.

There were 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who were familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could have been among them.

When MH370 was about to leave the Malaysian air space and report to Vietnamese air control, an American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How can the AWAC do it? Remember 911 incident? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with a remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all Boeing aircraft can be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.

The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication systems, changed course and flew westwards. They dared not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole of South China Sea air space is covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react to it.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Diego, the American Air Base in the middle of the Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead persons will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers was air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, making out that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and co-pilot.

The Americans have put up a good show. First diverting all attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made its way to the Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australians are collaborating in this plan.

The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, searching first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean  is unprecedented. This showed that China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly about the high value cargo and its 8 top defence scientists.

BRILLIANT.
I love it.
OCCAM'S Razor blunted to nothing more than a cave-man's stick !


Question
1  How many people would be needed to achieve the above?
A 100
B 500
C 1,000
D 15,000
E some other number

2 How many governments, some of whom officially do not speak to each other would be needed to achieve the above?
A 3
B 5
C 10

3 How many high level government and military officials would be involved in this entire operation ?
A 500
B 1,000
C 4,500
D Some other number

3  - Basing your answer on the reply to the question above -
How many computer operators, secretaries, typists, stenographers, minute takers, advisors, Political advisors, members of MI5, MI6, CIA, KGB . . . . . . .   {Make up your own TLAs !}
would have knowledge of this
A Lots
B Huge numbers
C Almost all

4  How many people can you rely on to keep a secret ?

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Post by Julchen on 13.04.14 21:55

WOW....intriguing!!
You'd probably need less people than one would expect with all the modern technology.

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Post by petunia on 13.04.14 22:04

Mine is answer is a) PM I will not change my mind that MH370 landed some where.The government and the BBC (and they must be lot of people working for both) are very good at keeping secrets all in my opinion of course.

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Post by aiyoyo on 13.04.14 22:52

Whoever wrote that deserves a Novel Prize for fiction.
Stretching Occam Razor a tad too far I think.

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Post by canada12 on 13.04.14 22:54

And it had Madeleine on board.

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Post by loopzdaloop on 13.04.14 23:40

After reading today about the specialist techniques used for the plane to avoid radar, the longer this goes on the more I lean towards this being an 'operation northwoods'. (if you've never heard of this please google, part of it involved the hijacking of planes to blame on Cuba) I think the cast has just change and Castro is now Putin. Considering Putin prevented war in syria on human rights grounds and also invaded Crimea on human rights grounds the west would need something pretty heavy to pin on him and use for propaganda purposes. If the plane did crash into the sea, I don't believe that the mobile phones would have been ringing!

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Post by Snifferdog on 14.04.14 1:14

A very plausable theory to my mind. I think very few people would have needed to be in the know.

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Post by tigger on 14.04.14 7:55

We may not have the right information on the 20 or so IT experts.

Why were they all in Malasia? Was there a conference?
Twenty is rather of lot for a visit to say facilities in another country.

We should look at what would happen to any industry if twenty of their top scientists disappeared.

China and the rest of Asia are taking over from the West in economic terms and possibly technology as well.
Losing twenty scientists would be a severe blow to any industry.

For all we know these experts were just really good at designing websites - but still that number is imo too large for a group to be on holiday, too large for an informal visit to similar industries and just the right size for a delegation.

All the above may be wrong but the other factor is the fact that this group was mentioned in the early days but in the uncommonly speedy 'documentary' on the Discovery channel screened last Saturday they are never mentioned.
I happened to watch it with someone very familiar with propaganda and conspiracy methods. He concluded that biometrics are at the bottom of this affair.

Instead of telling us facts, the first ten minutes were spent on telling us how safe we would be if only these measures were in place.
The facts were adjusted minute by minute. Military radar - which they could not ignore completely - was given a WWII rating in range, neatly overlooking the fact that the ocean is patrolled by navies of many countries with excellent radar on board which has no need of transponders which didn't exist in WWII.

The Discovery documentary was put together amaziingly fast, complete with female pilots and experts to bring us the full 21st C caring feeling of democratic governments doing their best to keep us safe.

Meanwhile China is missing some 20 IT experts, biometrics are le plat du jour, and the location of. Some wreckage which may or may not be from MH 370. Is being retrieved at great cost and with maximum publicity. You see? They really care about us.,

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Post by comperedna on 14.04.14 16:13

Spot on Petermac.

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Post by PeterMac on 14.04.14 16:51

comperedna5 wrote:Spot on Petermac.

I love all the details
20 tons in 6 crates.
even if the convoy had been over-run by some toothless Taliban in broken flip flops, who only managed to kill 2 SEALS, - so where are the rest ? ?
how the hell do they then get 20 tons in 6 crates from the hills of Afghanistan all the way to Malaysia - without anyone noticing ?
Camel ?
Donkey ?
Divine assistance ?

It is about as convincing as the story about Madeleine being abducted !

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Post by Snifferdog on 14.04.14 17:23

@PeterMac wrote:
comperedna5 wrote:Spot on Petermac.

I love all the details
20 tons in 6 crates.
even if the convoy had been over-run by some toothless Taliban in broken flip flops, who only managed to kill 2 SEALS, - so where are the rest ? ?
how the hell do they then get 20 tons in 6 crates from the hills of Afghanistan all the way to Malaysia - without anyone noticing ?
Camel ?
Donkey ?
Divine assistance ?

It is about as convincing as the story about Madeleine being abducted !

Chinese help perhaps?

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Post by Guest on 14.04.14 17:32

Putting all of the experts on one plane is not so covert.

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Post by PeterMac on 14.04.14 22:36

MarcoG wrote:Putting all of the experts on one plane is not so covert.

Ahh, So
You so carred exxperts - can you move 20 tonnnnes in seex crates from Afghanistan to Malaysia in one bound ?

It is onry 6,750 km.  
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But you "running dogs " have to Pay a toll to use our Islamic roads, you scum.

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even a Taliban scabby donkey can move this in one day. Inshallah !

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Post by Snifferdog on 15.04.14 9:45

Hows about by plane? Afghanistan has airports smilie .

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Post by PeterMac on 15.04.14 10:44

@Snifferdog wrote:Hows about by plane? Afghanistan has airports smilie .
Monitored 24 hrs a day by the USAF, who were the ones who lost their 20 tons in 6 crates in the first place, and who have drones and Ground to air missiles . . . .

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Post by Snifferdog on 15.04.14 12:42

The Bin Laden tunnels hidden amongst the lawless hills of Afghanistan?  Ok ok I give up!  big grin 

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Post by tigger on 15.04.14 15:19

@Snifferdog wrote:The Bin Laden tunnels hidden amongst the lawless hills of Afghanistan?  Ok ok I give up!  big grin 

Lots of women in burkas? Wouldn't be searched. So how many women would we need if each could carry 50 kg?

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Post by Guest on 15.04.14 15:28

Here's a picture of one of the SEALS later killed by Taliban in the fierce battle. As you can see he's wearing camouflage.

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