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Post by Okeydokey 26.03.14 13:20

jeanmonroe wrote:Gillyspot:

Either the Mirror have 'added' some more or you inadvertently 'missed' a paragraph.
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Three years after he settled in the Algarve, three-year-old Madeleine disappeared as her parents Kate and Gerry ate nearby with a group friends.
Carvoeiro is one of three resorts, including Praia da Luz, targeted by a prowling paedophile who is suspected of abusing five youngsters, aged seven to 10.
The sex attacks happened between 2004 and 2006 while the break-ins were reported up to 2010. Police believe they are likely to be linked to Madeleine’s disappearance.
Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, who is spearheading the new UK police search for the missing youngster, said the sex attacks in Carvoeiro were at the “high end” in terms of seriousness.
The officer added that the man they are hunting “has a very unhealthy interest in young, white girls who he attacks whilst they are on holiday in their beds”.
Reid’s girl victims in the UK were white. The pervert died last year of cancer at the age of 61 or 62, according to locals in Carvoeiro – where he had been attacked in a bar after his sick past was exposed.

In most of the cases, as with the Madeleine kidnap, there was no sign of a forced entry and nothing was taken.

And in six of the 12 incidents the man sat on the children’s beds. In four he went on to commit serious sexual assaults. Most of the break-ins occurred in the off season when Reid was in the area.
Officers working on Operation Grange – a review into the Madeleine case – are in possession of the DNA of the intruder following one of his attacks.
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This is line, from the Mirror, i'm interested in:

as with the Madeleine kidnap, there was no sign of a forced entry and nothing was taken.
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GLAD THE MIRROR POINTED THAT OUT BECAUSE........................................................


Gerry rings his sister, Trish Cameron, at 23:40 on the 3rd May 2007
Heart specialist Gerry McCann rang his sister Trish in Scotland after Maddy vanished from her cot placed between two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie.
Trish revealed yesterday: "He was breaking his heart, saying 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted'."
Trish said: "When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

TC:
the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it,

Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said Kate telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage
"Kate said the shutters of the room were smashed.

JC: a father-of-three himself, said: “Kate phoned me in the early hours totally devastated."
"She just told me that Maddy had been abducted, that the shutters of the apartment had been forced and someone had taken her."

Jill Renwick
"The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room and taken her."

Brian Healy
"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."
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SO ALL THOSE PEOPLE SAY BROKEN/SMASHED/JEMMIED SHUTTERS 'PROVE' SIGN OF BREAK IN BUT, THE MAN FROM THE MIRROR............HE SAY NO!


Redwood seems to be making a lot about the "white" factor.  But this guy was from N Ireland where nearly everyone is white and aren't most holidaymakers in the Algarve white Irish, Brits, Germans and Dutch?  Of course not all will be "white" but the vast majority will be.

What I am saying is it seems a rather tenuous link and would make sense only if say more than 50% of holidaymakers were black or brown skinned.
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Post by kimHager 26.03.14 13:28

Hmm I wonder if the next report will say semen stain in bed and on wall in 5a possibly belong to the Irish music man.

It almost sounds like anyone with a shady or unknown past that was anywhere near the algarve is now the infamous abductor that allegedly abducted Maddy. We are hearing all this load of manure but give some evidence not more tanner tractor potbelly stinky pimple white van now turned Irish music man abductors that I don't believe exist. We have never saw these men and this still don't discredit the dogs. I'm sticking with the dogs on this one

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Post by Guest 19.04.14 21:58

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-trail-five-3434162

Here we go again...
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Post by Liz Eagles 19.04.14 22:04

Dee Coy wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-trail-five-3434162

Here we go again...
Five mystery Britons who've all been contacted by email.
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Post by Guest 19.04.14 22:14

aquila wrote:
Dee Coy wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-police-trail-five-3434162

Here we go again...
Five mystery Britons who've all been contacted by email.

 laughat Clearly only a mystery as far as Clarrie and co are concerned.
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Post by diatribe 19.04.14 23:01

''The frustrations at Scotland Yard are growing day by day,” said our source. ''

So, from this we are to presume that the Mirror source is at the very least a police officer assigned to Operation Grunge, otherwise how would he/she have any knowledge of any frustration being experienced by the officers involved.

I appreciate that all this crap winds certain people up, but you really can't blame the tabloids because they are simply giving the proletariat what they want and what they want is crap. Best to just view it for what it is, entertainment value and cannon fodder for wannabe comedy script writers. So don't knock it folks, 'cos there ain't much else in the Peoples' Republik of Britain to put a smile on your face.
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Post by Liz Eagles 19.04.14 23:13

diatribe wrote:''The frustrations at Scotland Yard are growing day by day,” said our source. ''

So, from this we are to presume that the Mirror source is at the very least a police officer assigned to Operation Grunge, otherwise how would he/she have any knowledge of any frustration being experienced by the officers involved.

I appreciate that all this crap winds certain people up, but you really can't blame the tabloids because they are simply giving the proletariat what they want and what they want is crap. Best to just view it for what it is, entertainment value and cannon fodder for wannabe comedy script writers. So don't knock it folks, 'cos there ain't much else in the Peoples' Republik of Britain to put a smile on your face.
I doubt the proletariat want shite written about a missing child and yes I can blame the tabloids for writing this crap.
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Post by PeterMac 20.04.14 7:53

Pity it is their OWN story from a year ago !

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kidnapper-spied-madeleine-mccann-police-1897649

May 19, 2013 01:00 By Justin Penrose, Alex Wellman
A British property owner in the resort of Praia Da Luz said the police had pinpointed “persons of interest” to the blocks

British police probing Madeleine McCann’s disappearance now believe her kidnapper was staying in a holiday flat near the family.
Scotland Yard detectives, who believe the youngster may still be alive, have narrowed their search to FOUR apartment blocks where the family were on holiday when the youngster went missing.
They are trying to work out who was in them at the time in 2007.
A British property owner in the Portuguese resort of Praia Da Luz told the Sunday Mirror police had pinpointed “persons of interest” to the blocks.

So Operation Grange has spent a further 1 MILLION pounds, has visited Faro every couple of months for a year
has had endless sardine lunches and meetings with biscuits with their PJ counterparts
but no one knows who was occupying those apartments . . . ?

What total bol****s !
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Post by Guest 20.04.14 8:22

And it's so transparent ...

* A source said
* Our source said
* A source close to Madeleine’s heartbroken parents Gerry and Kate said
* Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for the McCanns, said
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Post by tigger 20.04.14 8:27

Châtelaine wrote:And it's so transparent ...

* A source said
* Our source said
* A source close to Madeleine’s heartbroken parents Gerry and Kate said
* Clarence Mitchell, a spokesman for the McCanns, said

'A British property owner' this time, wouldn't it be refreshing if just occasionally they said' a bloke in a pub told me ... ' nah 

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Post by Guest 20.04.14 10:36

... or a friend of my hairdresser said ...  big grin 
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Post by diatribe 20.04.14 11:03

aquila wrote:
I doubt the proletariat want shite written about a missing child and yes I can blame the tabloids for writing this crap.
We're going to have to agree tp disagree on this issue, Aquila. At the end of the day, tabloids are not benevolent, charitable organisations, they are business conglomerates looking to attract advertisers. Its all about supply and demand, if their readers(I use the word 'readers' euphemistically) no longer wished to absorb this crap, they'd rapidly desist from printing it.

I will however agree about a missing child story being distasteful, but tabloid patrons have long since ceased to regard this ongoing saga as having anything to do with a missing child and merely view it as Eastenders on the Algarve, or an addition to one of their other favourite soaps.
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Post by Liz Eagles 20.04.14 11:15

diatribe wrote:
aquila wrote:
I doubt the proletariat want shite written about a missing child and yes I can blame the tabloids for writing this crap.
We're going to have to agree tp disagree on this issue, Aquila. At the end of the day, tabloids are not benevolent, charitable organisations, they are business conglomerates looking to attract advertisers. Its all about supply and demand, if their readers(I use the word 'readers' euphemistically) no longer wished to absorb this crap, they'd rapidly desist from printing it.

I will however agree about a missing child story being distasteful, but tabloid patrons have long since ceased to regard this ongoing saga as having anything to do with a missing child, but merely view it as Eastenders on the Algarve, or an addition to one of their other favourite soaps.
How does that work then when there's only newspaper in UK on Easter Sunday has chosen Madeleine as its headline?
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Post by Cristobell 20.04.14 11:30

Another Sunday, another suspect in the case of Missing Madeleine.  Unfortunately, all the suspects have been round the block several times, and changing suspects on a weekly basis, doesn't really help the credibility of the abduction story.  

With these latest suspects (rechurned from last year according to clip from Petermac), are we to believe that 3 years into review/investigation, they have only just started to look at the occupants of the other flats in the apartment block?  That these obvious persons of interest have been overlooked by the original investigation, all the private detectives hired by the McCanns and the full forces of the PJ and SY is unbelievable.  I see the heartbroken couple have commented on the uncooperative 5, but I feel its 7 years too late.
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Post by diatribe 20.04.14 11:32

I don't know, Aquila, I don't peruse the broadsheets, never mind tabloids. Since the advent of the internet, I no longer even refer to them for the cricket scores. Maybe the Mirror has an even more dumbed down and depraved following than the Sun et al.

Here's a link to an interesting film documenting how the media works.



http://www.tubeplus.me/player/405641/Outfoxed%3A_Rupert_Murdoch%92s_War_on_Journalism/
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Post by diatribe 20.04.14 12:10

Cristobell wrote:.  I see the heartbroken couple have commented on the uncooperative 5,

Shouldn't that be 7, Christobell. roll
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Post by Guest 20.04.14 12:20

Or 9?
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Post by diatribe 20.04.14 12:42

Châtelaine wrote:Or 9?

But then they'd have to be commenting on themselves, Chatelaine, No FT, no comment. big grin
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Post by PeterMac 21.04.14 13:57

http://portugalresident.com/british-media-slammed-for-“rehashing”-madeleine-stories
Posted by jomad on April 20, 2014
British media slammed for “rehashing” Madeleine stories

As the 7th Madeleine disappearance anniversary approaches, a British newspaper has been slammed for publishing an ‘old story’ masquerading as a new lead.

The Daily Mirror reported on Saturday that detectives “working hard” on Operation Grange are trying to trace five mystery Britons who owned flats in the block in Praia da Luz from which Madeleine vanished on May 3, 2007.
It is a story that first appeared in 2013, in the same paper - although then detectives were only looking for FOUR apartment owners.
Said one critic, a retired British policeman who has been closely following the Metropolitan Police investigation since it began nearly three years ago: “Is this really the sum total of another year’s ‘hard work’?
“Has Scotland Yard spent another million, eight more visits to the PJ and a whole year - NOT finding out who owns those apartments? Honestly?”
According to the policeman, the source for this latest rehash story - “as well as all the others that have preceded it” - is the McCann’s press spokesman, Clarence Mitchell.
In 2008, Mitchell was described by former Portuguese police federation chief Carlos Anjos as a man who “lies with as many teeth as he has in his head”.
“Mitchell is still clearly in charge of this rubbish”, the retired policeman told Algarve Resident. “Why does no one expose him?”
This latest criticism came on the same day that the Algarve Resident received a call from local people in Luz asking us NOT to make any reference to the looming anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance.
“Every year it is the same”, the principal caller complained. “We are really appealing to you to not carry anything on the day. Just let it pass. If things go on as they are, newspapers will still be writing about this story in 25 years time!”
It is a valid point, but as a recent story on attitudes in Praia da Luz showed (see our printed edition of April 2, or http://portugalresident.com/%E2%80%98please-help-luz%E2%80%99-plea-as-ma...) opinions on the mystery remain divided.
Much as locals may wish for an end to the media spotlight, interest in the story remains astonishing - hence the never-ending repeat revelations, particularly in the British media.
This latest by the Mirror centres on the apparent unwillingness of the five British apartment owners to cooperate with Operation Grange.
And a new message within the body of the text highlights "the frustrations" that are reportedly growing every day between British police and their Portuguese counterparts.
Says the Mirror, Grange detectives are “having to tread on eggshells”.
“They would happily go round Praia da Luz and knock on doors asking everybody for information if they could, but they are still waiting for permission on the international letters of request they have sent to the Portuguese”.
One point, however - mentioned both in the ‘new’ story over the Easter weekend, and the story published by the Mirror in 2013 - is that Madeleine’s father Gerry McCann has said he feels the family were being watched throughout their fateful holiday.
“If that truly is the case”, said the retired policeman in touch with Algarve Resident, “why on earth would he have left his children asleep on their own in the holiday apartment?”

Seven years on, over seven million euros spent on Operation Grange - not to mention money being ploughed into the reopened Portuguese police investigation - and despite all the ‘new’ stories, no one appears to have any answers as to what really happened to three-year-old Madeleine McCann.
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Post by Doug D 21.04.14 14:28

I trust your getting paid a good journalistic rate for this PeterMac!
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Post by lj 21.04.14 22:53

Yeah, congratulations PeterM.

Will they call you "a source" soon?

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[size=62]Maddie McCann clue: Police hunt British paedo who was nearby when Madeleine went missing[/size]

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Sicko Roderick William Robinson has been on the run for more than a decade and now sources say he could have vital evidence about a suspected paedophile ring

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Dangerous: Robinson after his arrest in Thailand
Police are hunting a British paedophile who was in Portugal at the time of child sex attacks linked to the Madeleine McCann case.
Roderick William Robinson, 77, was first arrested while lying low at a rundown campsite on the Algarve in 2010. He had been on the run for more than a decade.
Sources close to the latest Madeleine McCann investigation have indicated that British detectives believe he could have vital evidence about a suspected paedophile ring.
The ring operated across the Algarve at the time three-year-old Madeleine was snatched in Praia da Luz in 2007.
A source said: “Roderick Robinson is a ­notorious and dangerous sex offender. He has shown a pattern of disturbing behaviour ­wherever he has travelled.
“He may have vital information which could shed light on the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. He is wanted on an international arrest warrant after failing to notify British police of his whereabouts and it is vital he is found without delay.”
After Robinson’s arrest in 2010 he was ­extradited to Australia where he was wanted for raping an eight-year-old girl in 1998. After agreeing to a plea deal he was convicted of indecently assaulting the child and sentenced to six months in prison.
Within weeks of his release the former oil rig worker fled to Thailand but three months later he was deported back to Britain after Thai authorities found out about his past.
He moved to Brighton, east Sussex, and was made to sign the sex offenders register. But in June 2012 he went on to sexually assault two girls, aged five and seven, on a yacht. This led to another conviction but, despite his past, his 12-month sentence was suspended for two years. Within weeks he changed his name by deed poll and fled to the Far East.
Scotland Yard detectives are currently ­investigating 18 possible linked break-ins at Algarve villas by a lone intruder between 2004 and 2010. Six have come to light since an appeal by UK detectives last month, with five of those involving alleged sex attacks on British girls.
Overall, nine of the 18 break-ins involved assaults on British girls, aged six to 12. Three took place in Praia da Luz.
The attacks stopped at around the time Robinson was deported from Portugal.
He was first arrested by Portuguese police at a campsite in Olhao on the Algarve, 60 miles from Praia da Luz. He associated with other ­paedophiles in the area around the time Madeleine vanished.
A source said: “These are questions that could have particular significance in the ­disappearance of Madeleine McCann.”
When he was deported from Thailand, Robinson told a reporter: “I’m a marked man for the rest of my life which won’t be very long.”
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Post by canada12 04.05.14 8:43

Sources close to the latest Madeleine McCann investigation have indicated that British detectives believe he could have vital evidence about a suspected paedophile ring.
The ring operated across the Algarve at the time three-year-old Madeleine was snatched in Praia da Luz in 2007.


This actually makes sense to me - not because someone from a paedophile ring may have abducted Madeleine, but because knowledge of a suspected paedophile ring might include a certain name which might be familiar to the investigation, and us. IMO. And further useful details might be forthcoming.
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Post by Cristobell 04.05.14 10:02

I haven't read the article yet because I can't get past the name Roderick Robinson!  I feel as though I have wondered onto the set of 'Life of Brian' and the crowd are getting the dim and verbally challenged Roman ambassador to 'Welease Woderwick'.  Has this descended in farce?
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Andrew77R wrote:[size=62]Maddie McCann clue: Police hunt British paedo who was nearby when Madeleine went missing[/size]

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Dangerous: Robinson after his arrest in Thailand
Police are hunting a British paedophile who was in Portugal at the time of child sex attacks linked to the Madeleine McCann case.
Roderick William Robinson, 77, was first arrested while lying low at a rundown campsite on the Algarve in 2010. He had been on the run for more than a decade.
Sources close to the latest Madeleine McCann investigation have indicated that British detectives believe he could have vital evidence about a suspected paedophile ring.
The ring operated across the Algarve at the time three-year-old Madeleine was snatched in Praia da Luz in 2007.
A source said: “Roderick Robinson is a ­notorious and dangerous sex offender. He has shown a pattern of disturbing behaviour ­wherever he has travelled.
“He may have vital information which could shed light on the mystery surrounding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. He is wanted on an international arrest warrant after failing to notify British police of his whereabouts and it is vital he is found without delay.”
After Robinson’s arrest in 2010 he was ­extradited to Australia where he was wanted for raping an eight-year-old girl in 1998. After agreeing to a plea deal he was convicted of indecently assaulting the child and sentenced to six months in prison.
Within weeks of his release the former oil rig worker fled to Thailand but three months later he was deported back to Britain after Thai authorities found out about his past.
He moved to Brighton, east Sussex, and was made to sign the sex offenders register. But in June 2012 he went on to sexually assault two girls, aged five and seven, on a yacht. This led to another conviction but, despite his past, his 12-month sentence was suspended for two years. Within weeks he changed his name by deed poll and fled to the Far East.
Scotland Yard detectives are currently ­investigating 18 possible linked break-ins at Algarve villas by a lone intruder between 2004 and 2010. Six have come to light since an appeal by UK detectives last month, with five of those involving alleged sex attacks on British girls.
Overall, nine of the 18 break-ins involved assaults on British girls, aged six to 12. Three took place in Praia da Luz.
The attacks stopped at around the time Robinson was deported from Portugal.
He was first arrested by Portuguese police at a campsite in Olhao on the Algarve, 60 miles from Praia da Luz. He associated with other ­paedophiles in the area around the time Madeleine vanished.
A source said: “These are questions that could have particular significance in the ­disappearance of Madeleine McCann.”
When he was deported from Thailand, Robinson told a reporter: “I’m a marked man for the rest of my life which won’t be very long.”
A Scotland Yard spokesman said: “We do not comment on ongoing investigations.”



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The problem is, he doesn't look anything like Smithman, who was in his late thirties, athletic build with a short neat haircut who looked exactly like Gerry McCann, but wasn't Gerry.

What are the chances, we must ask ourselves, that a paedophile gang were lucky enough to pick a holiday resort where a group of British parents regularly left their young children and babies alone in their apartments while they went out for dinner and one couple would conveniently leave the back doors open?  That almost never happens. One could argue that they knew about these rich pickings, because someone (a disgruntled employee?) spotted a note in the Tapas booking register that said 'small children alone in block 5, please help yourself' and passed the message on to a sophisticated paedophile network that alerts all the nonces in the area that there is another group of British tourists neglecting their kids.
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