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Post by Mirage on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 0:04

What is becoming increasingly clear is that GA was not far wide of the mark when he spoke of the English disease.

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Mail really going for it. ANOTHER two article today - Thursday

Post by PeterMac on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 7:48

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563377/Now-say-sorry-Ex-Yard-chief-calls-Labour-trio-admit-backing-paedophilia-huge-mistake.html
Now say sorry! Ex-Yard chief calls on Labour trio to admit backing paedophilia was a 'huge mistake'
Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey, and Patricia Hewitt all held key roles in the National Council for Civil Liberties
The left-wing human rights organisation built extraordinary links with the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange
The trio refuse to comment on the NCCL’s activities or apologise for them
Mike Hames, former head of Scotland Yard’s Paedophile Squad, said they made a huge mistake
By STEPHEN WRIGHT and MICHAEL SEAMARK
UPDATED: 00:25 GMT, 20 February 2014
Three senior Labour figures were under mounting pressure last night to apologise for supporting a vile group campaigning to legalise child sex.
Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman, her husband, home affairs spokesman Jack Dromey, and former Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt all held key roles in the National Council for Civil Liberties.
The left-wing human rights organisation built extraordinary links with the notorious Paedophile Information Exchange during the 1970s and 80s, yet the trio refuse to comment on the NCCL’s activities or apologise for them.
Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman, her husband, home affairs spokesman Jack Dromey, and former Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt all held key roles in the National Council for Civil Liberties
But Mike Hames, the former head of Scotland Yard’s Paedophile Squad, said: ‘They made a huge mistake. At the very least they should acknowledge, publicly, that they got it wrong.
‘That would be a great help to victims of child sex abuse.’

Mike Hames, the former head of Scotland Yard¿s Paedophile Squad, said the three made a huge mistake
Former detective superintendent Mr Hames said: ‘Through their political correctness, the NCCL legitimised the Paedophile Information Exchange and its vile members.
‘Senior figures at the NCCL equated PIE with the campaign for homosexual equality. They were anxious not to criticise people with unusual sexual interests. PIE had tried to intellectualise the issue of child sex but they were just apologists for paedophilia, and the NCCL was misguided in its support.’
Police are investigating the paedophile group as part of Operation Fernbridge, launched in the wake of the Jimmy Savile affair, with one source saying there is evidence that PIE members were abusing children ‘on an industrial scale’.
The Home Office is also carrying out a ‘thorough, independent investigation’ into shocking claims that the Labour government of the Seventies may have helped finance the group.
The reviled PIE, formed in the early 1970s, openly campaigned to legalise child sex.
Members did not present themselves as child abusers but ‘child lovers’, keen to ‘liberate’ children from sexual ‘repression’.
Tom O’Carroll, once described as ‘one of the most infamous perverts on earth,’ was co-founder and PIE chairman.
Yet despite the group’s notoriety, the NCCL granted ‘affiliate’ status to the group.
The Mail investigation discovered that during the 1970s and 80s, Miss Hewitt described PIE in glowing terms as ‘a campaigning/counselling group for adults attracted to children’.
The NCCL lobbied Parliament for the age of sexual consent to be cut to ten – if the child consented and ‘understood the nature of the act’.
It also called for incest to be legalised in what one MP dubbed a ‘Lolita’s charter’.
The NCCL – now the respected pressure group Liberty – filed a submission to Parliament claiming that ‘childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult, result in no identifiable damage’.
The Labour trio were all senior figures in the NCCL – then a small, tight-knit group of activists.
Miss Hewitt was general secretary of the NCCL from 1974-83, Miss Harman was a newly qualified solicitor when she became its legal officer in 1978 until 1982, when she entered Parliament. Mr Dromey sat on the NCCL executive committee from 1970-79.
The Mail repeatedly sent detailed questions to the trio about their links to PIE and whether they regret supporting such a vile group. Neither Miss Hewitt nor Mr Dromey replied.
A spokesman for Miss Harman said: ‘This story is untrue and ridiculous.’ SNIP _ same as yesterday from here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563440/Vital-questions-Labour-apologists-child-sex-MUST-answer.html
Vital questions these Labour apologists for child sex MUST now answer
Mail published major exposé revealing how three senior Labour Party figures gave their support to Paedophile Information Exchange
Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey held key roles in the National Council for Civil Liberties
By GUY ADAMS
UPDATED: 00:32 GMT, 20 February 2014
This week the Mail published a major exposé revealing how three senior Labour Party figures gave their support in the 1970s to a vile organisation that tried to legalise sex with children.
At the time, the trio — Harriet Harman (now deputy Labour leader), Patricia Hewitt (who was Health Secretary in the Blair government) and Jack Dromey (now a member of Ed Miliband’s Shadow Cabinet) — held key roles in the human rights campaign group the National Council For Civil Liberties (NCCL).
Harman was legal officer, Hewitt its general secretary and Dromey was on the executive committee.
Now the police have launched an investigation into the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), the group to which the NCCL offered its backing, after allegations that its members sexually abused under-age children ‘on an industrial scale’.
Before the Mail published our exposé, we again submitted detailed questions to the Labour grandees and asked them to respond. None replied — although a spokesman for Harman said: ‘This story is untrue and ridiculous.’

Now say sorry! Ex-Yard chief calls on Labour trio to admit backing paedophilia was a 'huge mistake'
How three of the party's most senior figures campaigned for a vile paedophile group now being probed by police for 'abusing children on an industrial scale'
Here we pose vital questions which Harman, Hewitt and Dromey need to answer . . .

To Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey
During your time with the NCCL, it gave significant support to PIE’s campaigns and causes. Do you now, in any way, regret this support or feel inclined to apologise to the many victims who suffered appalling abuse at the hands of the organisation you helped legitimise?
SINCE launching our investigation into the way you gave succour to a vile group that tried to legalise sex with children, none of you has apologised. Why?

To Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey
Under your leadership, the NCCL granted formal ‘affiliate’ status in 1975 to the PIE. Why did you allow your organisation to be associated with an outfit that advocated the legalisation of paedophilia?
Shortly afterwards, the PIE submitted a report to MPs claiming that ‘girls as young as four months can achieve orgasm’, and that four-year-old children can ‘communicate verbally their consent to sex’.
Given this utterly repellent line of argument, why did you let the organisation remain affiliated to your NCCL?
Under your leadership, the NCCL issued a written submission in 1976 to Parliament’s Criminal Law Commission.
It claimed: ‘Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult result in no identifiable damage.’ On what basis, scientific or otherwise, did you make this extraordinary claim?
The same document argued that it was ‘logical’ but ‘not politically possible’ that the age of consent should be abolished. What, in your view, is so ‘logical’ about abolishing the age of consent?
Your submission also advocated the lowering of the age of consent to 14, or ten ‘provided it is demonstrated that consent was clearly given by the child’.
Do you still believe this should be the case? And how on earth do you suppose a ten-year-old can ‘clearly give’ consent?
In addition , the submission proposed that ‘the crime of incest be abolished’, arguing that the suggestion that genetic damage may result from children born of incestuous unions ‘is in direct contradiction to the practices of successful animal breeders’. Do you still take this extraordinary view?
The section of your 1976 report to MPs advocating legalisation of incest argued that ‘bringing in the law’ when a minor has been abused by an adult ‘could do immense harm to the child’ and that ‘publicity in the local press and the reaction of neighbours’ during a trial is often more damaging to the victim than the actual crime. What evidence did you have to support this highly controversial claim?

To Harriet Harman
The NCCL’s controversial affiliation with the PIE, its support for lowering (or even abolishing) the age of consent, and its demand for the legalisation of incest were all widely reported throughout the 1970s.
Why, given these morally offensive views, did you take a job with the NCCL in 1978?
As the NCCL’s legal officer, you wrote and signed a four-page submission to MPs seeking to water down a proposed ban on child pornography.
Your briefing paper argued that ‘images of naked children should only be considered pornographic if it could be proven that the subject had suffered’. Do you still hold these views?

To Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey
Given your positions of influence in the NCCL, were you aware that Harriet Harman sought to water down the 1978 child pornography law, and if you were, why did you not try to prevent it?
To Patricia Hewitt
Your organisation’s in-house magazine, Rights, published a letter in 1982, stating: ‘Consensual sex between adults and children is simply people of different age groups being nice to each other . . .’
It added that ‘child molesters’ is ‘a loaded and pejorative term.
A totally inaccurate description of us and a put-down in much the same way that “pansy” is a put-down of gays and “n*****” a put-down of blacks.’ Why did you allow this vile letter to be published?
In the NCCL’s annual report for 1975, you told how you’d recently helped a PIE faction called Paedophile Action For Liberation [PAL], which you described as ‘a campaigning/counselling group for adults sexually attracted to children’. Is that an appropriate way to describe an organisation whose founders have been jailed for horrific child sex crimes?
our 1975 report revealed that NCCL’s legal department made a complaint to the then newspaper industry watchdog, the Press Council, about an article which branded PIE members ‘the vilest men in Britain’. Why did the NCCL seek to help a paedophile group muzzle the Press?
The report added that NCCL lawyers had ‘acted for some of the men when there were police inquiries as a result of the article’. Why did you think that self-confessed paedophiles under investigation by the police were worthy of the NCCL’s legal help?
To Harriet Harman
You claimed the Mail’s story was ‘untrue and ridiculous’. Yet every allegation in this week’s exposé was backed by documentary evidence held in the archives of respected academic institutions. Do you have any evidence in support of your denial?
To Jack Dromey
Although you have not commented to the Mail since its original investigation, you recently told another newspaper, the Birmingham Mail, that you were an ‘implacable opponent’ of the PIE during your time at the NCCL. Clearly, your opposition did not extend to resigning from the NCCL’s Executive.
So can you explain what form — if any — this ‘implacable’ opposition took?
To Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Jack Dromey
The director of Liberty — the campaigning organisation which was originally the NCCL — has issued a public apology for its links with the PIE.
Shami Chakrabarti said: ‘It is a source of continuing disgust and horror that even the NCCL had to expel paedophiles from its ranks in 1983 after infiltration at some point during the Seventies.’
Ms Chakrabarti was at school when the scandal occurred and had nothing to do with the NCCL. You three, on the other hand, were running the organisation.
Given her evident remorse, do you not feel a scintilla of contrition?


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Hewitt

Post by PeterMac on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 9:07

Hewitt took over the safe Labour seat from
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Greville Janner !

One coincidence, two coincidences . . .?

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by j.rob on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 10:26

How repulsive that trio are.

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by mouse on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 10:31

This should be a massive story. 2 days in a row - we have this story on the front pages yet it hardly appears to make a ripple of interest in the tv newsrooms. It is an old story - obviously updated now due to a further investigation, and obviously is based on documented fact. Do you think Hattie(being a lawyer by prof. I believe) and her old man would really let this go unchallenged. I mean,  if it were so 'ridiculous and untrue' as she has stated, wouldn't she be fighting this will all her might. I certainly would if it were me that was being accused of having such disgusting opinions. Remember this is the woman who wants to ban Page 3?????? 

In the wake of Jimmy Saville, you would think that this story would be a headline on every paper - but no, listening to the Beeb on the radio last night or this morning - neither R4 or R5 mentioned the DM's headline. They mentioned just about every other paper, even the Sun, which they despise, but no DM review. Can you seriously imagine the furore if this had concerned a member of UKIP - the media machine would have gone into overdrive and Nigel Farage would have been chased up for an opinion on his party members, probably calling for their sacking. Are they camping outside Ed Milliband's door? As it is - the media stay quiet, particularly the Beeb - just like they did for goodness knows how many years over JS. It is like a good friend of theirs has dropped something rather nasty in the room - but no-one wants to point the finger, hoping that it will just go away....Just like they did with Saville.

The deafening silence is once again very much heard

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Post by Dr What on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 10:58

I believe long ago that the BBC gave up honest and impartial news broadcasting.It sees what it wants to see, it hears what it wants to hear and it speaks in a biased manner. 
It does possess a few shining exceptions , Humphreys and Paxman come to mind, but the rest are just corporate dross.

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by mouse on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 11:27

@Dr What wrote:I believe long ago that the BBC gave up honest and impartial news broadcasting.It sees what it wants to see, it hears what it wants to hear and it speaks in a biased manner. 
It does possess a few shining exceptions , Humphreys and Paxman come to mind, but the rest are just corporate dross.
I totally agree with your first paragraph, but sadly, used to be a big paxo fan, I can't agree with these two as shining examples. If I remember rightly, Paxo hinted quite strongly at a select committee hearing (regarding the BBC/Newsnight JS debacle) that he had heard all the rumours about JS - but did he do anything. Did he publically make a stance when his very programme - himself being the face of Newsnight - dropped the JS Exposure Documentary. No - he did nothing. Surely if he had any morals he would have come out in public saying what he thought of the broadcasters, and resigned if they didn't show the programme.....But then this is the guy, who prefers to make a stance over blocking from the public, the very people who pay his wages, the exact amount of money he earns. This is the man who has made a small fortune out of many programmes outside of Newsnight, and the spin-off books published via the BBC. He is BBC through and through. And as for JH - well I wish he had gone in as hard on his Newsnight colleagues as he did the last DG - and his bungling of running the place. 

It seems at the Beeb, for journalists - there are some strictly no-go areas!

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Post by mouse on Thu 20 Feb 2014 - 12:05

Another interesting opinion piece on this matter in 'The Guardian' of all places (being strong labour supporting) from Roy Greenslade. In his blog - he is backing the mail on this, and believes that Harman, Dromney and Hewitt - do need to explain themselves on this matter. Considering now an investigation is being made into the Labour Party possibly funding/supporting this dubious Paedo Supporting Group.

Good to hear a non-biased opinion for once. Well done him. And lets hope a light is finally being shone on this disgusting dungeon of mysterious well-connected paedos and their ladder climbing enablers.

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MAIL not letting this go

Post by PeterMac on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 9:47

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564397/Inexcusable-Leading-abuse-charity-demands-apology-Labour-trio-links-vile-paedophile-group.html
Inexcusable: Leading abuse charity demands apology from Labour trio with links to vile paedophile group
Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt held senior positions at National Council for Civil Liberties before rising to top of the Labour party
The NCCL was an 'affiliate' of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), whose members may have abused children on an 'industrial scale'
Abuse charity NAPAC demands apology for links with 'disgusting' group
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2564409/JAN-MOIR-How-Harriet-call-feminist-this.html
JAN MOIR: How can Harriet call herself a feminist after this?
By JAN MOIR
UPDATED: 01:03 GMT, 21 February 2014

What next for the three senior Labour figures who backed a paedophile group in the Seventies and Eighties?
Labour deputy leader Harriet Harman, her husband Jack Dromey and former Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt have yet to say anything significant about the links, detailed in this newspaper in recent days.
They have not clarified. They have not elucidated. And they have not even, at the very least, apologised for this murky period in their collective past.
Oh. Nearly forgot. Characteristically, Harriet did rouse herself to airily dismiss the revelations as ‘rubbish’. However, that is nowhere near good enough. Especially not from her. She has got some explaining to do.
Chiefly, how can an ardent feminist such as Harriet Harman appear to have had a relaxed attitude to such abhorrent male behaviour as paedophilia? And even Harriet surely would agree that the vast majority of paedophiles are men.
Certainly the members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) who so successfully lobbied Harman and her cohorts at the National Council for Civil Liberties — now known as Liberty — all those years ago were almost exclusively male.
They wanted child pornography laws to be watered down — they would, wouldn’t they? — and she seemed to be only too happy to support their efforts.
Among other changes Harriet campaigned for? To make photographs or films of naked children legal unless there was evidence that the subject had been harmed. And shortly before she joined the NCCL, it sought to lower the age of consent to 14 and to decriminalise incest.
It is a manifesto that is breathtaking in its haughty libertarian conceits; in skewed ideals that put the aberrant sexual needs of adult men before the protection of innocent children. And yet, Harman & Co’s exquisitely right-on jobs at the NCCL proved to be launch pads to their wildly successful careers in the highest echelons of politics.
At that time, loony Leftism was at its terrible height, and the only excuse they could possibly have was that the fire of idealism must have blazed so bright in their young eyes that it obscured common sense. Back then, they believed that even paedophiles had rights, too.
It seems remarkable that a woman who has long campaigned against Page Three Girls once truly believed that photographs or films of naked children should not necessarily be banned.
One wonders if her views — and indeed those of her husband — have changed since she had children of her own.
This is a woman who has imposed her stringent views on equality and feminist issues onto the British workplace and wider society — sometimes to its detriment.  Someone who has force-fed positive discrimination and all-women shortlists down the throat of a sometimes reluctant populace.
So passionate has been her feminism that, in the past, she has wanted to make it illegal to pay for sex in this country; and in 2008 she supported then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith in her bid to impose rape charges on men knowingly paying for sex from an illegally trafficked women.
She is one of the most earnest women in modern politics, an MP who has made a career out of being a champion of women’s rights, whether women wanted it or not. Yet here, she has let them down badly.
Her whole approach to politics is that everything she does is right and beyond reproach. Yet this stinks. The actions of the group she supported surely helped create an atmosphere in which monsters such as Jimmy Savile could convince themselves there was nothing wrong with their dark and filthy deeds — and carry on molesting children.
Yet at the time he was at the height of his fame, adored by millions of children who watched Jim’ll Fix It, the organisation Harriet Harman endorsed was calling for the relaxation of the law on child pornography.
There are questions she must answer. And claiming the culture was different back then will not wash in this instance.
It has never been acceptable to molest and sexually abuse children — whether or not paedophiles and their friends have convinced themselves the poor children consented.
Harriet, of all women, should always have known that.

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Post by Research_Reader on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 11:15

Depressing and inexcusable that a woman who has had so much power and influence over British society should have held views that are so abhorrent to most decent people, yet still never have to account for them.

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Post by jeanmonroe on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 13:43

IF i were a Tory MP i'd go straight for the jugular at PMQ's!

"Does the Prime minister agree with me that it is an absolutely disgusting, disgrace that a very senior member on the opposition's front bench, and her husband, the Labour MP for Birmingham Erdlington,  should have been senior members of the National Council for Civil Liberties that was an 'affiliate' of the Paedophile Information Exchange?
And does he further agree with me that these members of this Honourable house should be thoroughly investigated by the police as to what they knew about the paedophile information exchange whose members, advocated sex with minors and who may have abused children on an 'industrial scale'?
Finally, does the Prime Minister also agree with me that any words from the mouths of these MP's, now forever without honour or credibility, about child protection safety issues from paedophiles, should be taken with a pinch of salt?

"Hear, hear"

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Post by PeterMac on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 14:39

@jeanmonroe wrote:IF i were a Tory MP i'd go straight for the jugular at PMQ's!
It has been suggested that Cameron has instructed his MPs to remain quiet.

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Post by Mirage on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 14:44

@PeterMac wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:IF i were a Tory MP i'd go straight for the jugular at PMQ's!
It has been suggested that Cameron has instructed his MPs to remain quiet.
I don't expect any will argue with that or think to introduce an Early Day Motion.

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Post by plebgate on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 14:45

As someone else posted - no surprise that Tories have been told to keep their mouths shut.  

I hope that this story goes massive, reported all over the world and let's see  skeletons come out of the closets then.

It's a disgrace that needs to be investigated by the highest authorities in my view.

Someone posted earlier in this thread.   Harman is all for female shortlists until it came to her husband getting a very safe labour seat.   Shame on em all.

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Post by jeanmonroe on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 17:11

@PeterMac wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:IF i were a Tory MP i'd go straight for the jugular at PMQ's!
It has been suggested that Cameron has instructed his MPs to remain quiet.

But surely, by doing that, he inevitably becomes 'complicit' and will stand FOREVER to be accused of covering up the alledged 'industrial scale'' of abuse of underaged children by PIE.

Good luck with that one, Mr Cameron!

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Post by tasprin on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 17:13

Needleblog.
February 19, 2014 · 12:44 pm
Daily Mail: Why Now ?


Retweeted by Guido Fawkes

The text of The Daily Mail story claims that this story can be exposed today, in reality this is very old news but look at how bombastic they are !

The headline screams ‘The truth about Labour’s apologists for paedophilia: Police probe child sex campaign group linked to three top party officials in wake of Savile scandal’ with one sub headline reading ’Harriet Harman, Jack Dromey and Patricia Hewitt linked to vile group’ The vile group in question is the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE)

For the MSM this is pretty strong stuff.

So why ?

Why has a Tory newspaper decided to go very heavy on some very old news attacking 3 senior Labour politicians now ?

It’s something for everyone to think about.
http://theneedleblog.wordpress.com/

Probably because there's some very old news to come out about conservative MPs - as far as paedophilia is concerned all the political parties have something to hide. That's why David Cameron has told MPs to keep schtum imo.

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by diatribe on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 17:37

@PeterMac wrote:Sometimes the Daily Mail can get things right.

------and on the odd occasion, it is capable of composing unbiased, truthful accounts of government tyranny.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1222777/The-raid-rocked-Met-Why-gun-drugs-op-6-717-safety-deposit-boxes-cost-taxpayer-fortune.html

All of which makes one wonder why they don't do it more often, I suppose it has something to do with advertising and circulation. In the immortal words of Red Skelton, 'Give the people what they want.' and in the case of the average British subject, its crap.

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Post by Guest on Fri 21 Feb 2014 - 18:14

@diatribe wrote:

All of which makes one wonder why they don't do it more often, I suppose it has something to do with advertising and circulation. In the immortal words of Red Skelton, 'Give the people what they want.' and in the case of the average British subject, its crap.

Like Paul Weller said, "The public wants what the public gets".

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Daily Mail still on the case

Post by PeterMac on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 8:52

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html
Apologists for paedophilia: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group, one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 10:08

@PeterMac wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565352/Apologists-paedophilia-As-Mail-exposes-links-senior-Labour-figures-vile-paedophile-group-one-man-abused-child-asks-wont-admit-wrong.html
Apologists for paedophilia: As the Mail exposes more links between senior Labour figures and a vile paedophile group, one man who was abused as a child asks them: why won't you admit you were wrong?

They will never admit they were wrong because they are part of the abhorrent "ideology" that seeks to drive a carriage and horses through every tenet of morality that ever existed in our land. These are the depraved individuals who put masterbation into the curriculum for primary school, who would have every mother hand over their babies to state run baby farms mere moments post partum, so that they can be brainwashed by the state, and the parent rushed back to work in some soulless corporation and is so bogged down with copious amounts of dogmatic employment law that they barely notice what is going on.

These are the same vile creatures that embrace everything rotten and call it diversity, take away all personal responsibility and freedom of choice so they can micro-manage every aspect of our lives and wrap it all up in jargonistic mumbo jumbo and call it progressive.

I sincerely hope the British public will not take this rubbish any more and knock the wheels off this vile party once and for all. It has brought nothing but distraction and misery, and will continue to do so for as long as the public remain blinkered and compliant.

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 10:58

Philip Wilson@willipmrpipFollow
At Denis McShane's fraud trial, Harriet Harman said, “I have never known him to be duplicitous, financially greedy, or deceptive.”
9:26 AM - 21 Dec 2013

Labour minister Denis MacShane has been jailed for six months at the Old Bailey after admitting making bogus expense claims amounting to nearly £13,000.
The ex-Rotherham MP previously pleaded guilty to false accounting by filing 19 fake receipts for "research and translation" services.
"there was deliberate, oft repeated and prolonged dishonesty over a period of years"

Oh dear,

NOT 'deceptive or duplicitous at all' according to Harman!

So why did he plead GUILTY to ANY 'charges' Harlot?

Got bored? Something to do?

Wanted to see what jail was like as a convicted criminal?

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Post by jeanmonroe on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 11:12

Alright for SOME then, Mrs Harlot?

Sunday, 27 June 2010

Invasion of the Pod People

'Harriet Harman's green elephant' is the nickname Whitehall insiders have given the two-storey green glass 'meeting pods' erected in the atrium shared by the Dept. for Communities and Local Government and the Equalities Office, according to the Sunday Times*.

It's all part of a £2.4million refit for the departments, including a number of designer sofas at £4,120 a pop. The aim of the 'soothing green' glass rooms is to reduce stress for the civil servants meeting there.

The permanent secretary at the Communities dept. (who really ought to know better) told their in-house magazine it was "a space of quality, air and light where we can work, relax and refuel in a natural ebb and flow...For me, the reworking of the atrium is an expression of how much we value each other".

It appears, then, that they value each other to the tune of exactly £72,614 - the amount we taxpayers forked out for their 'serene green tranquility rooms'.
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Go on, give us a go in them PODS I helped PAY for!

Pretty please?

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Re: Daily Mail - The truth about Labour's apologists for paedophilia:

Post by tasprin on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 14:50

Harriet Harman will be in Bradford today speaking to young people. Unfortunately the event is not open to the media or public, so I guess no one will get the opportunity to ask her why she supported the Paedophile Information Exchange.


Deputy leader set to address conference on importance of political involvement

Saturday 22nd February 2014
Bradford Telegraph and Argus

The deputy leader of the Labour Party will be in Bradford today listening to young people’s ideas and giving them a chance to “throw down the gauntlet.”

Harriet Harman will speak about the importance of young people being involved in politics when she addresses the party’s National Youth Conference.

More than 300 people, aged 14 to 26 ,will be at the sell-out event held in the city over the weekend.

Miss Harman (pictured) said she was “really looking forward” to attending and hearing young people’s ideas which would feed into the party’s General Election manifesto.

“It’s really important that young people don’t feel that there’s nothing they can do and that politics doesn’t really affect their lives,” she said.

The Bradford Young Labour group will today announce its Twitter and Facebook accounts to help it reach more people.

“We’re building and building the opportunity for young people to have their say,” Miss Harman said.

The conference will give delegates chance to meet other party members, access training, hear from high-profile speakers such as Miss Harman and the opportunity to debate what they want Young Labour to do in the future, “It’s their moment for really throwing down the gauntlet,” she said.

“The conference will be very much a mix of people from all ethnicities, a mix of young men and women and I think what I’m going to be doing is enjoying listening to some of their debates, but really encourage them to do what they’re going to do to set their own agenda, not to follow in others’ footsteps, but to make their own footpath.”

Miss Harman said the Labour Party appealed to young people because it addressed issues they cared about such as tackling discrimination against women and ethnicity.

She said schemes such as Bradford Labour Youth Forum, which aims to get young people into the party, and The Bradford Future Candidates Programme were positive for the city.

“It’s a great place to have a conference. It’s going to be very vibrant,” Miss Harman said.

The conference will be for party members only who have bought tickets and is not open to the media or public
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/11029608.Labour___s_Harriet_speaks_to_young/

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Post by plebgate on Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 19:31

@jeanmonroe wrote:Alright for SOME then, Mrs Harlot?

Sunday, 27 June 2010

Invasion of the Pod People

'Harriet Harman's green elephant' is the nickname Whitehall insiders have given the two-storey green glass 'meeting pods' erected in the atrium shared by the Dept. for Communities and Local Government and the Equalities Office, according to the Sunday Times*.

It's all part of a £2.4million refit for the departments, including a number of designer sofas at £4,120 a pop. The aim of the 'soothing green' glass rooms is to reduce stress for the civil servants meeting there.

The permanent secretary at the Communities dept. (who really ought to know better) told their in-house magazine it was "a space of quality, air and light where we can work, relax and refuel in a natural ebb and flow...For me, the reworking of the atrium is an expression of how much we value each other".

It appears, then, that they value each other to the tune of exactly £72,614 - the amount we taxpayers forked out for their 'serene green tranquility rooms'.
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Go on, give us a go in them PODS I helped PAY for!

Pretty please?
Green pods.
 
Harman, Husband and Hewitt, sound like peas in a pod to me.

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Post by Guest on Sun 23 Feb 2014 - 22:22

This ain't gonna go away..........


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