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The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

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Re: The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

Post by PeterMac on 30.11.14 15:17

@j.rob wrote:
While they were swanning around in private jets being blessed by the Pope they never imagined that cadaver sniffer dogs would be brought in to the resort and to apartment 5A. The whole foundation of their story was based on the premise that Madeleine was alive and being held somewhere. 

Several theories too far for me, but the bit I have highlighted is undoubtedly correct.
It still causes them palpitations, it still brings the shills and acolytes out in droves
It still forces the family to prepare the Dossier of Death against people who mention it on social media
It still caused GM to squeal in anguish in Portugal before the judge - as BS noted earlier in the week  * *

It is the one FACT they cannot cope with.
It is independent of any other witnesses, independent of any other human being, independent of any Police Officer
independent of political interference, independent of Religious Belief,
HUMAN Cadaverine and HUMAN blood was detected in apartment 5A,
AND in several other places associated with the McCanns
BUT IN NO OTHER LOCATIONS


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All solid Little Nell tear-jerking stuff right up to the end until our stoic hero suddenly disappeared as the judge was about to dismiss him – replaced by a hopeless ex-arguido grasping at straws to protect himself. The dogs hadn’t detected blood, he cried, over the judge’s objections. They were wrong – but the judge cut him off.

Desperation is the last impression that Gerry McCann wanted the Grange monitors to note but he couldn’t help himself: the dogs haunt them.

And here is the transcript of that desperate attempt
There's no more questions and the Judge is about to dismiss the plaintiff when GMC claims that he has something to say.
The judge says that in a civil trial the parties aren't allowed to spontaneous depositions. But she allows him: please do speak!
GMC says that he wants to make a comment about the dogs; he wants to make it clear that it is not a fact that they detected blood...
The judge interrupts him – The issue here isn't not to elucidate what actually happened. The perspective, in this trial, is to determine whether the book and the documentary affected the plaintiffs.
GMC – But the book mentions facts that aren't true.
The judge – The point isn't to establish whether things are true or not, this is not the issue. We want to know whether we are in the juridical remit of offence to persons. For this it's not necessary to know what the truth is. As a judge I'm not supposed to stand in for a criminal investigation.

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Re: The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

Post by Guest on 30.11.14 16:00

Your points in red, PeterM, should be regularly posted at the top (where Brown and Socrates are currently).  I don't know the technical term!

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Re: The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

Post by plebgate on 30.11.14 16:18

@PeterMac wrote:
@j.rob wrote:
While they were swanning around in private jets being blessed by the Pope they never imagined that cadaver sniffer dogs would be brought in to the resort and to apartment 5A. The whole foundation of their story was based on the premise that Madeleine was alive and being held somewhere. 

Several theories too far for me, but the bit I have highlighted is undoubtedly correct.
It still causes them palpitations, it still brings the shills and acolytes out in droves
It still forces the family to prepare the Dossier of Death against people who mention it on social media
It still caused GM to squeal in anguish in Portugal before the judge - as BS noted earlier in the week  * *

It is the one FACT they cannot cope with.
It is independent of any other witnesses, independent of any other human being, independent of any Police Officer
independent of political interference, independent of Religious Belief,
HUMAN Cadaverine and HUMAN blood was detected in apartment 5A,
AND in several other places associated with the McCanns
BUT IN NO OTHER LOCATIONS


* *
All solid Little Nell tear-jerking stuff right up to the end until our stoic hero suddenly disappeared as the judge was about to dismiss him – replaced by a hopeless ex-arguido grasping at straws to protect himself. The dogs hadn’t detected blood, he cried, over the judge’s objections. They were wrong – but the judge cut him off.

Desperation is the last impression that Gerry McCann wanted the Grange monitors to note but he couldn’t help himself: the dogs haunt them.
I think it would be interesting to hear more from Mr. about this.   Is there anything stopping him sitting on a sofa and raising the issue and explaining how the dogs were wrong?  Madam Judge didn't want to hear it, but IMO there are plenty of members of gen. public who would.

Edited to add - if MSM weren't interested, maybe Sonia P. would be for her forthcoming docu.

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Re: The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

Post by Guest on 30.11.14 16:34

@PeterMac wrote:
@j.rob wrote:
While they were swanning around in private jets being blessed by the Pope they never imagined that cadaver sniffer dogs would be brought in to the resort and to apartment 5A. The whole foundation of their story was based on the premise that Madeleine was alive and being held somewhere. 

Several theories too far for me, but the bit I have highlighted is undoubtedly correct.
It still causes them palpitations, it still brings the shills and acolytes out in droves
It still forces the family to prepare the Dossier of Death against people who mention it on social media
It still caused GM to squeal in anguish in Portugal before the judge - as BS noted earlier in the week  * *

It is the one FACT they cannot cope with.
It is independent of any other witnesses, independent of any other human being, independent of any Police Officer
independent of political interference, independent of Religious Belief,
HUMAN Cadaverine and HUMAN blood was detected in apartment 5A,
AND in several other places associated with the McCanns
BUT IN NO OTHER LOCATIONS


* *
All solid Little Nell tear-jerking stuff right up to the end until our stoic hero suddenly disappeared as the judge was about to dismiss him – replaced by a hopeless ex-arguido grasping at straws to protect himself. The dogs hadn’t detected blood, he cried, over the judge’s objections. They were wrong – but the judge cut him off.

Desperation is the last impression that Gerry McCann wanted the Grange monitors to note but he couldn’t help himself: the dogs haunt them.

Just read the court report again to see just how revealing the incongruity of his desperation is:

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Gerry_McCann_08_07_2014.htm

(Thanks to Anne Guedes and Pamalam.)

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Re: The McCann's planned abduction went wrong?

Post by j.rob on 30.11.14 17:05

So the sniffer dog blood findings are a highly sensitive issue, then? The clean-up was not quite as thorough as everyone thought? Gerry comes over as a whining schoolboy who has been caught out. That libel case showed them in such a poor light, imo. Really disastrous. 

"But the book mentions facts that aren't true."

Priceless! He might as well be speaking about that wonderful fairy-tale 'Madeleine' written by his wife, Kate, which professes to be an account of the truth.

But of course all the facts that Kate and Gerry and their team mention ARE true, aren't they? 

Like the fact that Madeleine was abducted from her bed on Thursday night by an abductor who jemmied the shutters, for instance.

Care to provide any evidence for this Gerry?

I reckon they have had it. They simply can't sustain the enormity of their lie much longer, imo. That libel case was a disaster for them. It shows them in a terrible light.

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Post by j.rob on 30.11.14 23:34

GMC – But the book mentions facts that aren't true.
The judge – The point isn't to establish whether things are true or not, this is not the issue. We want to know whether we are in the juridical remit of offence to persons. For this it's not necessary to know what the truth is. As a judge I'm not supposed to stand in for a criminal investigation.


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Oh dear - can anyone begin to imagine how these two Saints who stand as Ambassadors to Missing Children or Missing People would cope under cross-examination from a rottweiler prosecution lawyer in a criminal  investigation?

Oh, bring it on.

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