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Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

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Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 22:40

Cover of the Express (can't reproduce it, sorry) tomorrow says there really was a cover-up - the Ocean Club staff allegedly covered up the fact that a set of keys to all the apartment had been stolen:

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Keys to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.

However, the police were not told about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year-mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys. Amid claims that the Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia [...more inside the paper]

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by noddy100 on 08.02.14 22:42

the door was unlocked wasn't it?

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 22:43

@noddy100 wrote:the door was unlocked wasn't it?

Don't spoil a rattling good story with pedantic details like that

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by russiandoll on 08.02.14 22:44

now copied over from where I posted it in a reply to a member discussing a link to it on twitter ,  [ admin please delete if needlessly duplicated on different threads. ]
  posted also on Mitchell's list of suspects topic....now I wonder who made this claim re the stolen keys ?  


   

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Post by plebgate on 08.02.14 22:46

Yep door unlocked, keys to all apartments in the hands of shady people but only one child taken, no children before and none since.   Very strange, very, very strange.  Oh and let's not forget that the people who may have had keys to the apartment waited for a very small window of opportunity to strike.  EH?

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Post by Okeydokey on 08.02.14 22:50

@Tony Bennett wrote:Cover of the Express (can't reproduce it, sorry) tomorrow says there really was a cover-up - the Ocean Club staff allegedly covered up the fact that a set of keys to all the apartment had been stolen:

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Keys to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.

However, the police were not told about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year-mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys. Amid claims that the Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia [...more inside the paper]

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So it's a "A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal"  - be interesting to see the details of that.

Also be interesting to see if it is claimed the Ocean management were aware.

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Post by Woofer on 08.02.14 22:51

So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window  big grin

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Okeydokey on 08.02.14 22:51

@noddy100 wrote:the door was unlocked wasn't it?

It's a question I've often wondered about but I don't recall ever seeing anything in black and white about that. Does anyone have a reference?

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Post by Okeydokey on 08.02.14 22:52

@Woofer wrote:So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window  big grin

I'm sure Clarence can up with a reasonable explanation why that should be.

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 22:53

THREE Ocean staff are to be questioned.

Maybe, in fact, they are all being questioned..

...about...

...A COVER-UP?

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 22:55

@Woofer wrote:So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window  big grin

Wasn't it the 'red herring' that did that?

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Post by J4MM on 08.02.14 22:59

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Woofer wrote:So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window  big grin

Wasn't it the 'red herring' that did that?

It is certainly very 'fishy'.

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 23:02

@Okeydokey wrote:
@Woofer wrote:So they came through the front door with a key, but left through the window  

I'm sure Clarence can up with a reasonable explanation why that should be.

He doesn't have to.

As PeterMac has ably pointed out previously, neither the McCanns nor any of their spokespeople, public relations advisers or lawyers have ever given a definitive account of how the mysterious abductor entered or left. All options have been left open.

Could he have come in this way, or that way?

Was it a professional abductor - or a burglar?

Did he sedate the children while he was there - or not?

Did he have accomplices?

Did he try to abduct a child the night before and disturb the children?

Was he in the apartment, hiding in the wardrobe or behind a door while Gerry McCann checked on the children?

Was it Tannerman, Smithman, Crecheman, Raymond Hewlett, a tipsy gypsy or Tractorman?

And so on...

...and on...

...and on...

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Post by Woofer on 08.02.14 23:03

When will we be able to find out who "it" is in ...... "it was claimed"?

Good source there then.

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Post by Guest on 08.02.14 23:05

This report is so bloody insulting.
I don't know if this case is going to be a whitewash or not but it is clear that certain people are rattled at the moment.

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Post by brixham on 08.02.14 23:12

So they used the keys to Jemmy open the shutters?

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 23:17

There is a contradiction even in the first three sentences of the Sunday Express report:


Keys to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost...

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys...


There is another contradiction:

astonishing new information which, if proved...


If it's 'information', then it doen't need to be 'proved'.


No doubt the 'Express investigation' knows:

* what keys were lost/stolen
* where they were, or who had them when they were lost
* who first noticed when they were lost or stolen
* whether or not the loss/theft was stolen, and
* whether, by whom and when a new set of keys were ordered.

I can't wait to read the rest of the story

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Post by joti26 on 08.02.14 23:31

This front page absolutely sickens me and illustrates just how low the papers will stoop to sell copies! I think they have sensationalised this as a direct result of increasing suspicion of a real cover up among the public and making it into a front page story for no other reason but to catch the attention of this audience! Keys going missing is irrelevant  to this case as we all know! Grrrrrr!

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Post by espeland on 08.02.14 23:32

I imagine Mark Warner will see this as rather damaging to their future prospects with the Ocean Club and will take steps to ensure the real story is made known.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 08.02.14 23:35

@joti26 wrote:This front page absolutely sickens me and illustrates just how low the papers will stoop to sell copies! I think they have sensationalised this as a direct result of increasing suspicion of a real cover up among the public and making it into a front page story for no other reason but to catch the attention of this audience! Keys going missing is irrelevant to this case as we all know! Grrrrrr!

Fully agree.

It is utterly, totally cynical.

I am not sure if this is now a 'new low'.

But it must come pretty close...

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by joti26 on 08.02.14 23:40

I absolutely despair Tony and just hope more people out there start to realise just how bad our press really is!

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Post by Newintown on 09.02.14 0:15

@Tony Bennett wrote:Cover of the Express (can't reproduce it, sorry) tomorrow says there really was a cover-up - the Ocean Club staff allegedly covered up the fact that a set of keys to all the apartment had been stolen:

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Keys to the holiday apartment from which Madeleine McCann was abducted were lost shortly before she vanished, it was claimed last night.

However, the police were not told about the loss of potentially crucial evidence which could unlock the seven-year-mystery.

A Sunday Express investigation in Portugal has revealed astonishing new information which, if proved, suggests the kidnap was well planned and executed using stolen keys. Amid claims that the Portuguese police are about to arrest three former workers at the Ocean Club in Praia [...more inside the paper]

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The McCanns have already destroyed the reputation of MW, have lost numerous MW staff their jobs, have given a bad name to the once free and easy child-friendly resort of PDL, no doubt have ruined the livelihood of many shops/restaurants/businesses in the resort, what more do the papers want in order to sell their trashy papers?????

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Re: Sunday Express 9 Feb 2014 - MADELEINE - There REALLY WAS a COVER-UP

Post by Hobs on 09.02.14 0:19

It still doesn't explain the cadaverine and body fluids in the apartment, on the pants of ganja, the red shirt and cuddle cat as well as the key fob and hire car.

No matter how you try to spin it, the elephant in the room is the body fluids and cadaverine which indicate someone died in the apartment.

Since there is no record of any death in the apartment and  a child is missing, the two have to be related.

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Post by sallypelt on 09.02.14 0:28

@Hobs wrote:It still doesn't explain the cadaverine and body fluids in the apartment, on the pants of ganja, the red shirt and cuddle cat as well as the key fob and hire car.

No matter how you try to spin it, the elephant in the room is the body fluids and cadaverine which indicate someone died in the apartment.

Since there is no record of any death in the apartment and  a child is missing, the two have to be related.
And add to this all the lies and the ahhhs and umms and errs and what are we left with??? We are left knowing that all this media tosh is just that..............tosh!

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Post by jeanmonroe on 09.02.14 1:40

@Okeydokey wrote:
@noddy100 wrote:the door was unlocked wasn't it?

It's a question I've often wondered about but I don't recall ever seeing anything in black and white about that. Does anyone have a reference?

Just a few bits about how safety conscious the McCanns were leaving doors unlocked.

Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 4th of May 2007, at 11.15 a.m.
Thus, at 9.05 pm, the deponent entered the club, apartment, using his key, the door being locked,
At 10pm, his wife Kate went to check on the children. She went into the apartment through the door using her key

Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy, on the 4th of May 2007, at 2.20 p.m.
At around 10pm, the witness came to check on the children. She went into the apartment by the side door, which was closed, but unlocked, as already said,

Sequence of Events: Thursday 3rd May 2007 - 2030 to 2200
As recalled by:
Gerry McCann - 5A
Kate McCann - 5A
Presented to PJ 10th May 2007.
2105: GM returns to his flat (5A) and enters via the patio gate entrance. This and a child gate at the top of the stairs were closed at the time. He enters the flat via the patio door which is closed but unlocked.
22.00: (approx): KM leaves table to check children in 5A. The patio gate is closed and the child gate is also probably closed. She enters through the closed patio entrance,

Witness statement of Gerald Patrick McCann, on the 10th of May 2007, at 3.20 p.m.
They left the house through the main door, that he was sure he locked, and the back door was also closed and locked.
On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007. On this day, the deponent and KATE had already left the back door closed, but not locked, to allow entrance by their group colleagues to check on the children. He clarifies that the main door was always closed but not necessarily locked with the key.

Back to Thursday, after breakfast, about 09h00, KATE and the children left by the back door, the deponent having left by the front door, which he locked with the key, having also closed and locked the back door from the inside.
After that time they made their way to the resort play area, the deponent having left through the front door and the rest of the family through the back door that, once again, he shut and locked from the inside. As for the front door, he does not know exactly if he locked it.

After 17H30 they went to the apartment, the deponent having entered by the main door, which he did not lock while he was inside the residence. KATE and the children entered by the back door, after this had been opened from the inside by the deponent.

Despite what he said in his previous statements, he states now and with certainty, that he left with KATE through the back door which he consequently closed but did not lock, given that that is only possible from the inside. Concerning the front door, although he is certain that it was closed, it is unlikely that it was locked, because they left through the back door.

leaving yet again through the back door, that he closed but did not lock

Witness statement of Kate Marie Healy, on the 6th of September 2007, at 3 p.m.
They entered the apartment by the main door, with the key. She does not know if it was locked, and presumes it was Gerry who opened it. At lunch time they also entered through the same door.
They left through the balcony door, which they left closed but not locked. Main door was closed but not locked. She thinks it could be opened from the inside but not from the outside.

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