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Post by NickE on 06.02.14 7:48

Who was staying in apartment 5J at the time?

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Post by Guest on 06.02.14 19:07

Interesting last paragraph from Len Port in this article.........




Yet more Madeleine misinformation


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PORTUGAL NEWSWATCH:Reflections on current affairs in Portugal by journalist and author Len Port.

Post by NickE on 06.02.14 19:14


 
 
Thursday, February 6, 2014

Yet more Madeleine misinformation

Churning out the news without a care
 
 
The recent flurry of fictitious reports about the Madeleine McCann case is another example of how far quality journalism has been replaced by the latest form of ‘churnalism.’
 
A story is concocted by a reporter and published on the website of a major newspaper or TV network. Within hours, it has been copied, rewritten or translated without anyone bothering to check for accuracy. If it is sensational enough, the story is then regurgitated around the world.
 
The media have long been able to share important information from established news agencies and other reliable sources. The rot set in with the upsurge some years ago of propaganda and slanted press releases put out by PR people. The Internet has dramatically speeded and simplified shoddy, second-hand reporting.
 
Churnalism has now reached unprecedented levels with media organisations shamelessly copying one another online. As a result, a profusion of misinformation is spewed out daily.
 
Last week’s excitement over the Madeleine McCann case was based on the fact that four Scotland Yard detectives flew to the Algarve to meet with Polícia Judiciária counterparts. The visit followed a letter of request sent by the British Crown Prosecution Service to the Portuguese equivalent.
 
Officials in both countries refused to comment on the contents of the letter or the reason for the visit. This did not stop the British tabloids from improvising. They spoke of “a dramatic breakthrough” and claimed that the arrest of three burglars was “imminent.”
 
Kate and Gerry McCann were said to be “on tenderhooks” and being “kept fully informed” about the latest developments.
 
 
These “exclusive” assertions in the Daily Mirror were picked up and used not only by competing tabloids, but by ‘quality’ papers such as the Guardian and the Daily Telegraph.
 
Portuguese papers did not jump on the bandwagon, but the revelation of a ‘breakthrough’ spun around the world and found its way into the Sydney Morning Herald, the Times of India, the Huffington Post and the Daily Beast to name but a few online services.
 
The Epoch Times, which prides itself on being published in 21 languages in 35 countries across five continents, was running the same “imminent arrest” yarn on the same day ITV mercifully set the record straight with the headline: “No imminent plans to make any arrests in Madeleine McCann case.”
 
ITV described the meeting between British and Portuguese detectives as “a routine part of the investigation to establish what happened to Madeleine McCann.”
 
USA Today quoted the British investigative reporter and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas as saying, “this isn’t a major breakthrough” and “burglars don’t abduct children.”
 
By then the media damage had been done. As the Sunday Mirror columnist Carole Malone put it: “How devastating this must all be for Kate and Gerry McCann – another flurry of headlines, more promises of suspects and arrests… and then nothing. Again!”
 
The copy and paste style of churnalism practised nowadays is akin to plagiarism, but who cares? For example, a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case spotted that several paragraphs in a Daily Mirror story on 28 December had been copied almost word-for-word, without quoting or crediting the source, from a story that had appeared in the Daily Mail on 15 October. He brought this to the attention of both papers and the Press Complaints Commission. They expressed little interest.
 
Journalistic analysts put the growth in churnalism down to a combination of things, including increased competition, reduced revenues and inadequate staff with insufficient time to verify and properly develop stories.
 
It is likely to get ever more frantic. We have already moved on from last week’s “imminent arrests” to this week’s tabloid revelation that “detectives are probing a Portuguese gypsy site just 15 minutes away from where Madeleine was snatched.”
 
Well, maybe, but for starters the place the foreign media are talking about is not a gypsy site at all. 
One thing is certain though: the media will continue to churn out this sort of rubbish as long as there are people who want to read it.


http://lhro.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/portugal-newswatch-reflections-on-current-affairs-in-portugal-by-journalist-and-author-len-port/

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Post by Guest on 06.02.14 19:24

NickE, have merged your topic here as I had posted a few mins before on this thread, and it is on the same subject.

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Post by NickE on 06.02.14 19:29

candyfloss wrote:NickE, have merged your topic here as I had posted a few mins before on this thread, and it is on the same subject.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 07.02.14 0:57

clapping1 For example, a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case spotted that several paragraphs in a Daily Mirror story on 28 December had been copied almost word-for-word, without quoting or crediting the source, from a story that had appeared in the Daily Mail on 15 October. He brought this to the attention of both papers and the Press Complaints Commission. They expressed little interest.
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"a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case"

That would be OUR very own PeterMac!

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8813p40-maddie-cops-prime-suspect-blunder-tomorrows-mirror-28-12-13

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ETA: If journalist and author Len Port is 'looking in' on this forum (otherwise how did he know about PeterM's 'posting' to PCC?) makes one wonder WHO else (Met/PJ?) could also be "looking" at this forum, possibly looking at 'other' explanations to explain how she (Madeleine) is not here.
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10th February 2010, Lisbon.
Gerry McCann: "Where... where, you know... where is... where... where is... where is... where is the child? We're looking for that evidence. Where is the child? What other explanation can explain how she's not here."

Well Gerry, since you are asking..........................

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Post by watendlath on 07.02.14 6:48

@jeanmonroe wrote:clapping1 For example, a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case spotted that several paragraphs in a Daily Mirror story on 28 December had been copied almost word-for-word, without quoting or crediting the source, from a story that had appeared in the Daily Mail on 15 October. He brought this to the attention of both papers and the Press Complaints Commission. They expressed little interest.
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"a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case"

That would be OUR very own PeterMac!

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t8813p40-maddie-cops-prime-suspect-blunder-tomorrows-mirror-28-12-13

 thumbup  thumbsup  thumbup  bravo  clapping1  bravo  thumbsup

ETA: If journalist and author Len Port is 'looking in' on this forum (otherwise how did he know about PeterM's 'posting' to PCC?) makes one wonder WHO else (Met/PJ?) could also be "looking" at this forum, possibly looking at 'other' explanations to explain how she (Madeleine) is not here.
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10th February 2010, Lisbon.
Gerry McCann: "Where... where, you know... where is... where... where is... where is... where is the child? We're looking for that evidence. Where is the child? What other explanation can explain how she's not here."

Well Gerry, since you are asking..........................




Look at that. Yet another brilliant post from jeanmonroe.
I'd better tell DCI Redwood.

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Portuguese press on Churnalism

Post by PeterMac on 08.02.14 14:19

http://portugalresident.com/churning-out-the-news-without-a-care
Posted by portugalpress on February 07, 2014
Churning out the news without a care

The recent flurry of fictitious reports about the Madeleine McCann case is another example of how far quality journalism has been replaced by the latest form of ‘churnalism.’
A story is concocted by a reporter and published on the website of a major newspaper or TV network. Within hours, it has been copied, rewritten or translated without anyone bothering to check for accuracy. If it is sensational enough, the story is then regurgitated around the world.
The media have long been able to share reliable information from established news agencies and other sources. The rot set in with the upsurge some years ago of propaganda and slanted press releases put out by PR people. The internet has dramatically speeded and simplified shoddy, second-hand reporting.
Churnalism has now reached unprecedented levels with media organisations shamelessly copying one another online. As a result, a profusion of misinformation is spewed out daily.
Last week’s excitement over the Madeleine McCann case was based on the fact that four Scotland Yard detective flew to the Algarve to meet with Polícia Judiciária counterparts. The visit followed a letter of request sent by the British Crown Prosecution Service to the Portuguese equivalent.
Officials in both countries had refused to comment on the contents of the letter or the reason for the visit. This did not stop the British tabloids from improvising. They spoke of “a dramatic breakthrough” and claimed that the arrest of three burglars was “imminent”.
Kate and Gerry McCann were said to be “on tenderhooks” and being “kept fully informed” about the latest developments.
These assertions in the Daily Mirror were picked up and used not only by competing tabloids, but by quality papers such as the Guardian and the Daily Telegraph.
Portuguese papers did not jump on the bandwagon, but the revelation of a ‘breakthrough’ spun around the world and found its way into the Sydney Morning Herald, the Times of India, the Huffington Post and the Daily Beast, to name but a few online services.
The Epoch Times, which prides itself on being published in 21 languages in 35 countries across five continents, was running the same “imminent arrest” yarn on the same day ITV mercifully set the record straight with the headline: “No imminent plans to make any arrests in Madeleine McCann case.”
ITV described the meeting between British and Portuguese detectives as “a routine part of the investigation to establish what happened to Madeleine McCann”.
USA Today quoted the British investigative reporter and former detective Mark Williams-Thomas as saying, “this isn’t a major breakthrough” and “burglars don’t abduct children”.
By then the media damage had been done. As the Sunday Mirror columnist Carole Malone put it: “How devastating this must all be for Kate and Gerry McCann – another flurry of headlines, more promises of suspects and arrests... and then nothing. Again!”
The copy and paste style of churnalism practised nowadays is akin to plagiarism, but who cares? For example, a retired British police superintendent with a keen interest in the McCann case noted that several paragraphs in a Daily Mirror story on December 28 had been copied almost word-for-word from a story that had appeared in the Daily Mail on October 15. He brought this to the attention of both papers and the Press Complaints Commission, but they expressed little interest.
Journalistic analysts put the growth in churnalism down to a combination of things, including increased competition, reduced revenues and inadequate staff with insufficient time to verify and properly develop stories.
It is likely to get ever more frantic. We have already moved on from last week’s “imminent arrests” to this week’s tabloid revelation that “detectives are probing a Portuguese gypsy site just 15 minutes away from where Madeleine was snatched”.
Well, maybe, but for starters the place the foreign media are talking about is not a gypsy site at all.
One thing is certain though: the media will continue to churn out this sort of stuff as long as there are people who want to read it.

By LEN PORT
Len Port is a journalist and author based in the Algarve. Follow Len’s reflections on current affairs in Portugal on his blog: algarvenewswatch.blogspot.pt
- See more at: http://portugalresident.com/churning-out-the-news-without-a-care#sthash.zYAv7pIS.dpuf

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Post by diatribe on 08.02.14 15:08

The most outstanding aspect of this entire farce is that everything is in the reverse of normality. Normally in criminal cases, the police are fabricating fictional and ridiculous accounts to incriminate often innocent suspects, whereas in this case they appear to be adopting the self same policies to exonerate the prime suspects.

The families and friends of victims are usually keen to see the perpetrators of the crime apprehended, tried, convicted and sentenced, whereas in this case they appear to have done everything possible to frustrate the prospects of the aforementioned ever occuring. Most people who had lost a child, relative or friend would be utterly pissed off with diversionary tactics that were patently never going to catch anyone, never mind being the ones to instigate them. A similar analogy would be having one's antique jewellery stolen and instead of looking for it in Portobello Mkt. Bond St. Galleries etc. devoting one's entire search efforts to trawling around Smithfield meat, or Billingsgate fish markets.

Even the 'ang 'em all tabloids normally only to keen hang a child neglector, petty fraudster et al from the highest gallows for the slightest misdemeanour, have nothing but sympathy for the only obvious suspects. Future criminal scholars could easily be excused for renaming this charade, 'The Anti-clockwise case.'

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Post by PeterMac on 08.02.14 16:11


Thanks for that. Sorry Admin, I had not realised it had been posted already. Do you want to merge and block
And yes, Jean it was your stuff that I picked up on, so thanks again for that.

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Post by ultimaThule on 08.02.14 16:21

It seems to me that media coverage of late has become a runaway train...

The '3 burglars' story broke of the eve of 7 January, the date set for the hearing of closing arguments in the libel trial. 
However, at the request of Isabel Duarte, counsel for the McCanns, the trial was postponed to an as yet unannounced date and, IMO, it was reasonable to suppose that the flurry of publicity which had all the hallmarks of TM's usual diversionary tactics would rapidly abate. 

Instead, press activity has continued at a pace with speculation as to the dastardly trio's mobile phone usage being followed by photos of AR and his own threesome arriving laden with files in Faro and entering a doorway set on a narrow street, an announcement that a number of MW workers had been put under the forensic microscope and found wanting becoming a search for the driver who ferried OC clients to and from the airport, and a subsequent search for the alleged would-be abductor of another young child 3 years after Madeleine's disappearance culminating in a hunt for the 'soothing couple'. 

All of the aforementioned set against the permanent backdrop of a gypsy encampment, conveniently set a few miles from Luz, with its implication of shady doings by an equally shady group of people which can be relied on to pad out thin stories where necessary.  Am I the only one to find it surprising that Jez Wilkins hasn't produced a series featuring children who've been stolen by gypsies... or fairies for that matter?

If I were minded to believe the media dance only to the McCanns' tune, I might suspect that one of the orchestra players is determined to strike a bum note by leaving them fresh out of hackneyed songs to sing when the trial resumes. 

What's left for TM to spin?  Alien abduction, or spontaneous combustion with the very same wind which whooshed the bedroom curtains blowing any ash deposits clean out of the unlocked patio doors?

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Post by Guest on 08.02.14 19:55

@ultimaThule wrote:It seems to me that media coverage of late has become a runaway train...

The '3 burglars' story broke of the eve of 7 January, the date set for the hearing of closing arguments in the libel trial. 
However, at the request of Isabel Duarte, counsel for the McCanns, the trial was postponed to an as yet unannounced date and, IMO, it was reasonable to suppose that the flurry of publicity which had all the hallmarks of TM's usual diversionary tactics would rapidly abate. 

Instead, press activity has continued at a pace with speculation as to the dastardly trio's mobile phone usage being followed by photos of AR and his own threesome arriving laden with files in Faro and entering a doorway set on a narrow street, an announcement that a number of MW workers had been put under the forensic microscope and found wanting becoming a search for the driver who ferried OC clients to and from the airport, and a subsequent search for the alleged would-be abductor of another young child 3 years after Madeleine's disappearance culminating in a hunt for the 'soothing couple'. 

All of the aforementioned set against the permanent backdrop of a gypsy encampment, conveniently set a few miles from Luz, with its implication of shady doings by an equally shady group of people which can be relied on to pad out thin stories where necessary.  Am I the only one to find it surprising that Jez Wilkins hasn't produced a series featuring children who've been stolen by gypsies... or fairies for that matter?

If I were minded to believe the media dance only to the McCanns' tune, I might suspect that one of the orchestra players is determined to strike a bum note by leaving them fresh out of hackneyed songs to sing when the trial resumes. 

What's left for TM to spin?  Alien abduction, or spontaneous combustion with the very same wind which whooshed the bedroom curtains blowing any ash deposits clean out of the unlocked patio doors?

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Who was there first ?

Post by PeterMac on 08.02.14 21:38

Len Port, author of this piece lives a short distance away, and has contacts and friends in PdL.
He attended the "scene" around 8:30 (a.m. 4/5/7)
Jon Clarke, of Olive Press fame, claims he was the first English speaking journalist in PdL, having got there by mid-day.
He published his work in the Sun, with the Lazzeri creature, for 5 months before letting anything into his own paper.
Len speaks English AND Portuguese. (Which might help )
Great that we have a press who give us all the facts ! !

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Post by Guest on 08.02.14 21:42

He's a member of this forum too -  hi - and was online earlier today but has never posted anything.

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