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Post by jeanmonroe on 29.01.14 13:08

WHY are this 'activity' now?

Distraction, distraction, distraction!

Have you heard that ex-journo 'singing like a canary' in the phone hacking trial?

All this, imo, is to keep Cameron's ex spin doctor Andy Coulson and 'planting the jiffy bag' OFF the front pages!

The journo's apparently turned 'Queen's evidence' and got immunity from CPS prosecution and he is being 'protected' by the Met Police!

And boy, oh boy, isn't he 'singing' loud and clear!!
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Update.

As i thought, NOT a mention of the Coulson/Brooks (Cameron personal friends) phone hacking, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, trial on SKY News 'headlines' at 1300hrs.

"look over there, not over here"

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Post by Okeydokey on 29.01.14 13:18

@noddy100 wrote:Sky News have showed the cover of Amaral's book on report

Well that's progress!

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Post by worriedmum on 29.01.14 13:32

@noddy100 wrote:Sky News have showed the cover of Amaral's book on report
in what context?

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by Guest on 29.01.14 13:36

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@worriedmum wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@Woofer wrote:I can`t help thinking these photos are just theatre...

Kate McCann's diary: "Gerry put on another great TV performance"

Jon Corner on his August 2007 film of the McCanns: "I was just working backstage"
 Yes maybe...

but who is the intended audience and what is the message?

I am not alllowed to answer either question for legal reasons

Please, allow me?

The intended audience = the murderer(s) of little Maddie McCann;
The message = you had you're chance to come forward to us; now it's in the hands of the Portuguese, and good luck!

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Post by bobbin on 29.01.14 13:38

@jeanmonroe wrote:WHY are this 'activity' now?

Distraction, distraction, distraction!

Have you heard that ex-journo 'singing like a canary' in the phone hacking trial?

All this, imo, is to keep Cameron's ex spin doctor Andy Coulson and 'planting the jiffy bag' OFF the front pages!

The journo's apparently turned 'Queen's evidence' and got immunity from CPS prosecution and he is being 'protected' by the Met Police!

And boy, oh boy, isn't he 'singing' loud and clear!!
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Update.

As i thought, NOT a mention of the Coulson/Brooks (Cameron personal friends) phone hacking, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, trial on SKY News 'headlines' at 1300hrs.

"look over there, not over here"

Two very good things here.
1. The Coulson case etc. is still running, so it should not be being commented on.
2. This is a complete 'about face'.
This time, it's The McCs who are being USED, to detract us from looking at 'the Newspapers' instead of the Newspapers being USED to detract us from looking at the McCs
IMO The tables are turning.  big grin 

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by jeanmonroe on 29.01.14 13:45

Correction:
The reporter that said that Coulson stuff did NOT get 'immunity' from CPS, although he tried, but has pleaded guilty to an offence in exchange for a reduced sentence.

We can 'report' on the goings on from the court because it's in the public domain and has already been reported in the media.

It's on public 'record' and can be commented on.


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Post by marconi on 29.01.14 13:58

I am still wondering why the Yard attracted the attention to themselves, openly walking around in Faro.
What is behind it?  I wonder if they are hiding something behind their arrival, perhaps the arrival of some suspects from te UK, disguised, and those suspects could have been secretly taken to Portimão, in a van, whilsh the 4  Yard men were showing themselves in the streets of Faro.
Redwood joing them  because he is recognizable as part of the Operation Grange.

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Post by Curious_Bystander on 29.01.14 14:03

@marconi wrote:I am still wondering why the Yard attracted the attention to themselves, openly walking around in Faro.
What is behind it?  I wonder if they are hiding something behind their arrival, perhaps the arrival of some suspects from te UK, disguised, and those suspects could have been secretly taken to Portimão, in a van, whilsh the 4  Yard men were showing themselves in the streets of Faro.
Redwood joing them  because he is recognizable as part of the Operation Grange.
I wonder if there are any British medical staff who have unexpectedly taken leave...?

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Post by marconi on 29.01.14 14:08

@Curious_Bystander wrote:
@marconi wrote:I am still wondering why the Yard attracted the attention to themselves, openly walking around in Faro.
What is behind it?  I wonder if they are hiding something behind their arrival, perhaps the arrival of some suspects from te UK, disguised, and those suspects could have been secretly taken to Portimão, in a van, whilsh the 4  Yard men were showing themselves in the streets of Faro.
Redwood joing them  because he is recognizable as part of the Operation Grange.
I wonder if there are any British medical staff who have unexpectedly taken leave...?

We can ask Método 3 to investigate it for us.

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by sami on 29.01.14 14:10

The video footage from which those photos were taken was just on Sky.  The footage was credited to a company called exclusive pix.  


http://www.exclusivepix.co.uk/

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Post by Guest on 29.01.14 14:18

This photo opportunity for the SY team, imo It's just PR because SY want to appear to everyone as really working on the case and exploring all relevant leads. (All leads are equal, although some leads are more equal than others). Since when did SY have its investigating officers photographed out and about by the press whilst working on a case?

Who leaked this to the press anyway? It's all so wrong, so unprofessional and just smacks of 'in your face' reality tv stuff. What next? I wouldn't be surprised if Andy appears next on Strictly. "It's a no from me. - Sorry".

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Post by mysterion on 29.01.14 14:20

Being eternally optimistic, they have hand delivered 3 signed original statements/confessions in the hands of 3 officers, for security reasons, to the judicial authorities in Portugal. They will then translate them into Portuguese before presenting them before a judge with the extradition warrants for authorisation. AR was there as the senior investigating officer.

Why the film show? For the TV documentary after the trial or to prove to a court that the documents were hand delivered.

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.01.14 14:24

@lj wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
@russiandoll wrote: 

SIX QUESTIONS

Who briefed photographers to be there to take these photographs?

And why?

Cui bono - who benefits from these photographs being published?

How common is it for meetings between officials between two police forces to appear in the press?

Will the publication of these photographs help or hinder the arrest of any genuine criminals?

And finally, was this really all about favourable headlines in the British mainstream press - and a very expensive photo opportunity?


No Tony, don't be so paranoid. Of course they have made a huge step forward (see the photo) and have another 413 leads to follow up. So that's at least another 2 years, 3 million quid and maybe some extra detectives??

It's very interesting that we have a series of hugely-publicised videos and stills of this historic Faro meeting between the PJ and ther Met's finest.

Yet not a single clear statement about why they are there. A picture is worth a thousand words, and the picture is trying to tell me: 'Look, we're really doing something. We're really getting somewhere".

Except that, to quote Wendy Murphy, 'I'm not buying it'. 

The costs?

Say three days and two nights for 4 top detectives on salaries averaging £50,000 per year.

Salaries for 3 days: £2,500
Flights x 4: £600
Hotel bills x 4: £1,000
Meals and drinks: £500
PJ staff time: £2,500
Translators and secretarial costs: £2,500.

Plus time spent on preparation for the visit, say £10,000.  

Around £20,000 in total, and that's a very conservative estimate

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.01.14 14:27

@lj wrote:
Of course they have made a huge step forward (see the photo)

One small step forward to the PJ offices in Faro.

One giant leap for the British press and the Operation Grange's publicity machine.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.01.14 14:30

MILLIE wrote:Who leaked this to the press anyway? It's all so wrong, so unprofessional and just smacks of 'in your face' reality tv stuff. What next? I wouldn't be surprised if Andy appears next on Strictly...

Or, far more likely: "I'm a senior Scotland Yard detective. Get me out of here"

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Post by lj on 29.01.14 14:34

@Portia wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:They have been and gone it would seem, after a 3 hour meeting which took place yesterday.
 They went for lunch, how very dare they ! It is ok though for SY to have lunch, they are not Portuguese cops who take 3 hours to eat sardines washed down with lashings of wine.

Unless they had so much to discuss that they needed to stay overnight and meet again with Portuguese detectives.

So all the usual suspect source's stuff about hope that the Portuguese police will co-operate was a lot of crap as usual.

      

Looks as if the Tree Burglars turned right instead of left

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Post by Dr What on 29.01.14 14:37

The costs devoted to all these officers and all their investigations does seem very high.

I suppose it will all be worth it if it prosecutions are secured and some of the costs are recoverable from the profits of criminal activity, ie the Fund.

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Re: Breaking News 4 SY Detectives in Portugal Brunt reporting Now

Post by Tony Bennett on 29.01.14 14:37

@lj wrote:

There is a hidden message in this photograph, which I have just decoded.

Look at the chain behind them, from which they appear to be unable to free themselves.

Each one of the four of them is bound by it.

It is obvious.

Really plain.

They are 'shackled' to their original remit.

Viz...To investigate 'the abduction as if it happened in this country'.

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Post by Guest on 29.01.14 14:42

@mysterion wrote:Being eternally optimistic, they have hand delivered 3 signed original statements/confessions in the hands of 3 officers, for security reasons, to the judicial authorities in Portugal. They will then translate them into Portuguese before presenting them before a judge with the extradition warrants for authorisation. AR was there as the senior investigating officer.

Why the film show? For the TV documentary after the trial or to prove to a court that the documents were hand delivered.

But who is being extradited? These alleged burglars?
Whether they are witnesses or suspects in the disappearance of Madeleine, why can they not be interviewed in Portugal by Scotland Yard and the PJ in cooperation? (Assuming they're somewhere they can be easily found, like in prison.)

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Post by jeanmonroe on 29.01.14 14:44

@Tony Bennett wrote:
MILLIE wrote:Who leaked this to the press anyway? It's all so wrong, so unprofessional and just smacks of 'in your face' reality tv stuff. What next? I wouldn't be surprised if Andy appears next on Strictly...

Or, far more likely: "I'm a senior Scotland Yard detective. Get me out of here"

Surely you meant "I'm a CELEBRITY Scotland Yard detective. Get me out of here"

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Post by PeterMac on 29.01.14 14:48

AR has just been on Sky, an old clip obviously, but he uses the expressions
"committed to making a difference" and "progress"

Absolutely nothing about arresting abductors, searching the lawless hinterland for a Hellish Lair, nor, sadly, of finding Madeleine alive.
So whatever could he have meant.

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Post by Mr Quelch on 29.01.14 14:49

What sort of car are SY using ?

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Post by Tony Bennett on 29.01.14 14:59

I have just looked up the dictionary definition of 'circus'.

It says something like:

noun: circus; plural noun: circuses


  1. a traveling company of trained performers, carrying out acrobatic feats, usually featuring clowns that give performances in a series of different places...

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Post by Mirage on 29.01.14 15:09

@jeanmonroe wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
MILLIE wrote:Who leaked this to the press anyway? It's all so wrong, so unprofessional and just smacks of 'in your face' reality tv stuff. What next? I wouldn't be surprised if Andy appears next on Strictly...

Or, far more likely: "I'm a senior Scotland Yard detective. Get me out of here"

Surely you meant "I'm a CELEBRITY Scotland Yard detective. Get me out of here"

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Post by Guest on 29.01.14 15:12

weren't exclusive pics the company that had a lot of pics of k & g and twins on their site?

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