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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 12:53

@tiny wrote:Someones grasping at straws
I don't think this happened at all- I said Devils Advocate at the beginning. I do think that MWT has not really looked at the history of home invasion/burglary/kidnapping sufficiently if all of those show up on the first page of a Google search!

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 12:54

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:We all need to know why they're not!
Agree. It would be interesting, but they seem to discount it. Else they would be treating the McCanns as possible suspects, which they have said that they are not.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 12:55

@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

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Post by whatliesbehindthesofa on 14.01.14 12:57

@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

Regardless of how you could possibly know that, it's irrelevant to the question you asked.  You played Devil's Advocate, suggesting that it might well have been burglars.  I've responded with two pieces of evidence indicating that there were no burglars - cadavar scent on KM's clothes and in the hire car.

Unless you're dismissing the detections of Eddie and Keela there is your answer.

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Post by tiny on 14.01.14 12:57

@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Yes,but would sy tell them they are but they cant arrest them yet as they have to have a watertight case.

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Post by whatliesbehindthesofa on 14.01.14 12:58

@Aoife wrote:
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Because of course Scotland Yard would announce to the world that the McCanns are suspects before arrests are made.  That would make perfect sense.  The police do that all the time.

ETA: The PJ did that. And we all know how that went for them.

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Post by Guest on 14.01.14 12:59

@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Oh, so is that why the police use dogs, cadaver dogs to this very day............they use them and then take no note of their findings.  big grin 

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:02

@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Yes,but would sy tell them they are but they cant arrest them yet as they have to have a watertight case.
That is a possibility, but as I said they "seem" to be ignoring it.

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Post by tiny on 14.01.14 13:04

Aoife,do you think kate and Gerry are responsible for Madeleines death.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:08

@tiny wrote:Aoife,do you think kate and Gerry are responsible for Madeleines death.
Yes, but I do not know exactly how.

That is off topic I think- the thread is about MWT suggestion that burglars and kidnappers are mutually exclusive.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:08

candyfloss wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Oh, so is that why the police use dogs, cadaver dogs to this very day............they use them and then take no note of their findings.   big grin 
I agree. But the MET certainly seems to be ignoring the evidence.

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Post by sami on 14.01.14 13:09

@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

But how do you know that
Because they have said that the McCanns are not considered suspects currently.

Yes,but would sy tell them they are but they cant arrest them yet as they have to have a watertight case.
That is a possibility, but as I said they "seem" to be ignoring it.


In all honesty, what is Redwood supposed to say when asked if the parents are considered suspects ?  He can say nothing other than no.  Saying no comment leads to speculation, saying yes causes uproar.  The easiest and best way is to say no and nothing else.

It is quite some time since I have heard him state that anyway, lots has goe on since, unless I missed something.

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Post by tiny on 14.01.14 13:09

@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:Aoife,do you think kate and Gerry are responsible for Madeleines death.
Yes, but I do not know exactly how.

That is off topic I think- the thread is about MWT suggestion that burglars and kidnappers are mutually exclusive.

thank you for your reply,sorry I went off topic

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Post by aiyoyo on 14.01.14 13:10

@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

Do you know that as a fact ?

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Post by aiyoyo on 14.01.14 13:11

@Aoife wrote:
@tiny wrote:Someones grasping at straws
I don't think this happened at all- I said Devils Advocate at the beginning. I do think that MWT has not really looked at the history of home invasion/burglary/kidnapping sufficiently if all of those show up on the first page of a Google search!

I think MWT is trying to redeem his career after the failing to sniff cadaver above his head.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:11

@aiyoyo wrote:
@Aoife wrote:
@whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:Cadavar scent in the McCanns' hire car says not.

Cadavar scent on Kate McCann's clothes says not.
Scotland Yard seem to be taking no note of that finding.

Do you know that as a fact ?
No. That is why I used the word 'seem'.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:13

Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

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Post by aiyoyo on 14.01.14 13:16

@tiny wrote:Aoife,do you think kate and Gerry are responsible for Madeleines death.

IMV, apparently not, Aoife insinuates the concerted Buglars XYZ who did it. Hello Kevin ?

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Post by aiyoyo on 14.01.14 13:18

@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

Suggest you pose that question to MWT if you are suggesting he does not know what he's saying.

I'd say even though I dont like that pompous guy, his this particular statement is 100% correct.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:21

@aiyoyo wrote:
@tiny wrote:Aoife,do you think kate and Gerry are responsible for Madeleines death.

IMV, apparently not, Aoife insinuates the concerted Buglars XYZ who did it. Hello Kevin ?
I do not believe that the XYZ burglars are involved. I think that is a wild goose chase. I do think that MWT has suggested something that is obviously untrue according to press coverage- burglars have in the past engaged in unplanned kidnap of children. I do not need to take it up with him as it is not really my concern what he says.

He is a serial media whore anyway and will say what gets him his next booking as an expert on another show.

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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:22

@aiyoyo wrote:
@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

Suggest you pose that question to MWT if you are suggesting he does not know what he's saying.

I'd say even though I dont like that pompous guy, his this particular statement is 100% correct.
Except that it is contradicted by the links I have posted above!

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Post by tasprin on 14.01.14 13:23

@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

How about this one:

Newsone
Sep 2013
Mom Fights Off Intruder Who Tried To Kidnap Her Kids
http://newsone.com/2719420/shawndrea-smith-musa-lang-georgia/

Luckily for the kids they were not left alone.

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Post by Guest on 14.01.14 13:27

@tasprin wrote:
@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

How about this one:

Newsone
Sep 2013
Mom Fights Off Intruder Who Tried To Kidnap Her Kids
http://newsone.com/2719420/shawndrea-smith-musa-lang-georgia/

Luckily for the kids they were not left alone.

Except there was no evidence of a single intruder in this case, never mind three.
And if you accept the dog evidence, Maddie was dead at some time in the apartment.
Which leads to the question why would they take a dead child?


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Post by Aoife on 14.01.14 13:30

dantezebu wrote:
@tasprin wrote:
@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

How about this one:

Newsone
Sep 2013
Mom Fights Off Intruder Who Tried To Kidnap Her Kids
http://newsone.com/2719420/shawndrea-smith-musa-lang-georgia/

Luckily for the kids they were not left alone.

Except there was no evidence of a single intruder in this case, never mind three.
And if you accept the dog evidence, Maddie was dead at some time in the apartment.
Which leads to the question why would they take a dead child?

Devil's Advocate again- to remove any DNA evidence on the body. (I do not believe this happened, but I do believe in not shutting doors without due cause.)

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Post by Guest on 14.01.14 13:31

@Aoife wrote:
dantezebu wrote:
@tasprin wrote:
@Aoife wrote:Back on topic. 

MWT said:

"Burglars don't abduct children," Thomas said. "Child abusers abduct, pedophiles abduct, but if you are in an area burglarizing a house looking for items you are not looking to take a child.


How does that sit with the links coming from the first page of a google search above?

How about this one:

Newsone
Sep 2013
Mom Fights Off Intruder Who Tried To Kidnap Her Kids
http://newsone.com/2719420/shawndrea-smith-musa-lang-georgia/

Luckily for the kids they were not left alone.

Except there was no evidence of a single intruder in this case, never mind three.
And if you accept the dog evidence, Maddie was dead at some time in the apartment.
Which leads to the question why would they take a dead child?

Devil's Advocate again- to remove any DNA evidence on the body. (I do not believe this happened, but I do believe in not shutting doors without due cause.)

Lucky the intruders remembered to shut the doors, and child safety gates on their way out..

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