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Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by noddy100 on 13.01.14 13:41

@columbostogeys wrote:
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@Aoife wrote:
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@Hopespringseternal wrote:
@noddy100 wrote:There is every chance a burglar operating in the OC area may have seen something that night if their phones place them there but they are too scared to reveal themselves.
Acc to TM the police are giving them the chance to talk without arrest??


I really hope this is the truth and that SY have suddenly seen the light about all the nonsense spun to them by 'others' re timelines and kriss-crossing witnesses. I'd love to see these 'burglars' come forth with a statement that blows all the lies out of the water; some little detail which proves that they MUST have seen what happened and who perpetrated it. Mind you, if that were to happen then they'd probably be pilloried by TMc as lying to save themselves from burglary charges and having set up a deal. Wonder what the chances are of the 3 blackmailing 'others' because they know what happened with finances being transferred by third parties? That, of course is pure speculation on my part, but given the nonsense we've been spun so far who's to say how it'll play out? tease
Me too. Whoever the 3 burglars are it was very clear from the paper review I saw that they were not being looked at in terms of abductors at all.

Which paper review was that. As far as I can see, the CPS and/o the MET have confirmed that a second letter has been sent but have not briefed (on the record anyway) about the contents by either confirming or denying intention to do anything. This means that the content is unknown unless there has been off the record contact. We are not privy to any such off the record briefing in any definite manner either to confirm or deny intention to arrest and question.
It was on the paper review on This Morning today
Paul Ross made a point of clarifying that they are not suspected abductors more witnesses
EXACTLY I watched it too, and what he said actually made a bit of sense.

IF there is a small gang of burglars working around PDL for the last 7 years, perhaps in 2007 they may have seen something that could be useful to the police, but too scared to come forward and tell them for fear of being arrested. So they are talking about bringing people in on a PJ caution and asking them the questions. I suppose you can say its some sort of amnesty.

NOTHING to do with them being the abductors. The rest of it all has just been made up to sell the newspaper. I mean this is not going to sell a newspaper is it, but headlines like SCOTLAND YARD ABOUT TO ARREST 3 MEN IN MADDY CASE is.....

Jeez its on every forum now and people just keep talking about it, when really it should have no interest and is never going to find the child anyway.
Thanks for clarifying what I saw!
I attempted to find a clip to link to but its not on catch up yet :)

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by mysterion on 13.01.14 14:04

Maybe the "witnesses" were young and single burglars in 2007 who did not want to expose themselves to questions about their own activities. They may have been somewhere compromising. Maybe 6.5 years on, they are now proud fathers of 4 year old daughters and they now feel for Madeleine.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Rasputin on 13.01.14 14:37

Surely if these 'burglars ' witnessed something involving this hugely public case they would have stepped forward immediately and divvied up the reward money without as much as breaking into a sweat ?

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by marconi on 13.01.14 14:55

Any of you has any idea whether the McCanns are in Portugal right now? Did Gerry show up today at the hospital?

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Mirage on 13.01.14 14:59

I'm hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

1. We have the UK saying none of the Tapas group or the parents are persons of interest.
2. We have CMTV broadcasting a realistic reconstitution with GA asserting parental involvement and putting giant question marks over DP and others.
3. We have silence from the PJ who are reportedly not on side with SY's investigation, but we do not know for sure.

Effectively we have one group denying the possibility of parental involvement.
Another group asserting parental involvement
And an unknown situation with a third group.

Meanwhile everyone is talking about three burglars and Twitter is going mad.

The worst case scenario - an inter-governmental whitewash. Just like before, when GA was removed from post

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by jeanmonroe on 13.01.14 15:09

Is all of this all over the Portuguese press?

Just EXACTLY how 'long' is 'ABOUT'?

As in "SCOTLAND YARD ABOUT TO ARREST 3 MEN IN MADDY CASE"

24 hours?

1,2,3,4.6 DAYS?

2,3 WEEKS.?

6 MONTHS?

How long do the pros think is 'about'?

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by aiyoyo on 13.01.14 15:09

@marconi wrote:Any of you has any idea whether the McCanns are in Portugal right now? Did Gerry show up today at the hospital?

Sorry, post like this degrades the forum.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by marconi on 13.01.14 15:10

Mirror makes up a story and the whole internet is upside down!  Collins will receive a new Award.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Guest on 13.01.14 15:19

Marconi since you are so eager for this information, then I suggest you do what you asked others to do yourself!! No more of this talk please.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by russiandoll on 13.01.14 15:20

with thanks to twitter

  It is possible 3 suspects will be arrested in Portugal...maybe 1 had a car 1 had a freezer & 1 had cilit bang



  1.    dewi lennard@kikoratton 22 Dec
  2. @TrulyJudy73 @NettyCox @McCannTales @umweltbuerger Chew on these signatures! Same person entered EN and "Maddie McC" pic.twitter.com/wI3v5xRwqx

 







  1. @kikoratton burglars didn't do this in the crèche every day either #McCann

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Mirage on 13.01.14 15:28

I expect the three burglars are over the Spanish border by now. They probably had time to leave the MET a thank you note and have a sardine sandwich.

No doubt we'll have Gezza on the telly saying: "Where are the helicopters? Where are the heat-seeking cameras?"

And the show trundles on.


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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by jeanmonroe on 13.01.14 15:29

What happened to the 'pros'

"it wuz that dead paedo Hewitt wot dun it"

"it wuz that dead black tractor driver wot dun it'

"it wuz anyone wot dun it but it weren't the Mcs cuz they told us the troof, geddit?"

"GEDDIT, anyone else, innit?"

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Doug D on 13.01.14 15:33

Guardian report:
 
‘A spokesman for Madeleine's parents told the Daily Mirror that police were ready to arrest and interview "key suspects". Scotland Yard confirmed that it had sent an international letter of request to the Portuguese authorities but would not elaborate on its contents.
…………………
The spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann said
 
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/13/madeleine-mccann-british-police-arrests-portugal
 
Straight from the horses mouth then.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Mirage on 13.01.14 15:35

Is Judy Truly's alter ego peeping through a hole in her sock?

Judy Truly ‏@TrulyJudy73 7m
@JamesJArbuthnot @janneuk Not interested James as I know what is true and what is not re Madeleine #Mccann.

Now then boys and girls, who does that sound like?

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Okeydokey on 13.01.14 15:37

@jeanmonroe wrote:What happened to the 'pros'

"it wuz that dead paedo Hewitt wot dun it"

"it wuz that dead black tractor driver wot dun it'

"it wuz anyone wot dun it but it weren't the Mcs cuz they told us the troof, geddit?"

"GEDDIT, anyone else, innit?"

"Is like can't be us like cos we is British like...!!!"

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by MRNOODLES on 13.01.14 15:40

@russiandoll wrote:with thanks to twitter

  It is possible 3 suspects will be arrested in Portugal...maybe 1 had a car 1 had a freezer & 1 had cilit bang



  1.    dewi lennard@kikoratton 22 Dec
  2. @TrulyJudy73 @NettyCox @McCannTales @umweltbuerger Chew on these signatures! Same person entered EN and "Maddie McC" pic.twitter.com/wI3v5xRwqx

 






  1. @kikoratton burglars didn't do this in the crèche every day either #McCann


LOL that went through my mind. Perhaps it's known somebody bought a knocked off chest freezer.

Either way. The burglars imo are a piece in the puzzle, regardless how it's spun in the rags.
Similar to the story of the cleaners. Say DNA evidence had been Cilit Banged. It needs to be worked out by whom and when.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by jeanmonroe on 13.01.14 15:46

@Mirage wrote:Is Judy Truly's alter ego peeping through a hole in her sock?

Judy Truly ‏@TrulyJudy73 7m
@JamesJArbuthnot @janneuk Not interested James as I know what is true and what is not re Madeleine #Mccann.

Now then boys and girls, who does that sound like?

If she KNOWS what is true and what is not true re: Madeleine McCann wonder why she hasn't claimed the SY 'reward'?

If she KNOWS things she should be down the cop shop everyday until they listen to her.

Maybe the police might well be interested in what she exactly KNOWS about a three years old childs 'disappearance'

Was she there?

Does she KNOW who was there?

I have seen loads of her and her friends tweets and they all claim to KNOW what happened to a missing child.

Methinks it's time to contact SY and ask them to 'interview' TrulyAwful and her friends on what exactly it is they all KNOW!

Not so much bungling burglars, but hiding in plain sight, a gang of twitterers!

THEY ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MADELEINE!

So they SAY.

It would be a dereliction of duty and rather amiss of DCI A Redwood if he did NOT interview these people that say they KNOW exactly what happened to Madeleine McCann,

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by sallypelt on 13.01.14 15:49

@Mirage wrote:Is Judy Truly's alter ego peeping through a hole in her sock?

Judy Truly ‏@TrulyJudy73 7m
@JamesJArbuthnot @janneuk Not interested James as I know what is true and what is not re Madeleine #Mccann.

Now then boys and girls, who does that sound like?

Mirage, it's no secret who TrulyJudy73 is, and she's definitely not KM. She can change her "socks" as often as she likes, but there's no mistaking who she is. And despite all TJ's  claims to being someone of importance, my young granddaughter has more internet links to HER achievements on the internet than TJ has. In fact, besides the usual info on people, TJ73 hasn't got a SINGLE link to anything she's done or has done. THAT is how important this women is. Delusions of Grandeur comes to mind.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by russiandoll on 13.01.14 15:49

P1NK F1OYD@p1nkf1oyd 3h
The Sea Bass Times BREAKING NEWS!! Thieves mistake child for bag of swag - as mum & dad booze the night away with friends. #Mccann #Mcscamm
Retweeted by ♥ Mavie ♥


JillyCL@JillyCL 3h
#McCann BREAKING NEWS - The 3 burglars have been arrested, thanks to Clarence Mitchell! pic.twitter.com/kkrqnD4Bf6






  1. Shoota!@CaroleShooter 4h
  2. The 'burglars' are said to be delighted at the latest developments. #mccann
  3. Retweeted by Mari Welzel


  4. selleyaj@YajSelle 4h
    @CaroleShooter But the abductors were not available for comment. #mccann
    Retweeted by Mari Welzel

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by jeanmonroe on 13.01.14 15:58

JillyCL ‏@JillyCL 3h
#McCann BREAKING NEWS - The 3 burglars have been arrested, thanks to Clarence Mitchell! pic.twitter.com/kkrqnD4Bf6
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Clarance Mitchel desperately tries to claim £2.6 million 'reward' and says he'll issue a writ against ANY Celeb that dosen't pay their 'pledged share' of reward!

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Mirage on 13.01.14 16:03

@sallypelt wrote:
@Mirage wrote:Is Judy Truly's alter ego peeping through a hole in her sock?

Judy Truly ‏@TrulyJudy73 7m
@JamesJArbuthnot @janneuk Not interested James as I know what is true and what is not re Madeleine #Mccann.

Now then boys and girls, who does that sound like?

Mirage, it's no secret who TrulyJudy73 is, and she's definitely not KM. She can change her "socks" as often as she likes, but there's no mistaking who she is. And despite all TJ's  claims to being someone of importance, my young granddaughter has more internet links to HER achievements on the internet than TJ has. In fact, besides the usual info on people, TJ73 hasn't got a SINGLE link to anything she's done or has done. THAT is how important this women is. Delusions of Grandeur comes to mind.

sallypelt, Thanks. I have read previously who she is. The striking similarity of the tweet made me doubt for a moment.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by aiyoyo on 13.01.14 16:13

@russiandoll wrote:

#McCann BREAKING NEWS - The 3 burglars have been arrested, thanks to Clarence Mitchell! pic.twitter.com/kkrqnD4Bf6




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Not swarthy garlic stinking foreigners, must be wrong MEN.  
AC-7... looks like Gerry.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by Cristobell on 13.01.14 16:14

@Mirage wrote:I'm hoping for the best and preparing for the worst.

1. We have the UK saying none of the Tapas group or the parents are persons of interest.
2. We have CMTV broadcasting a realistic reconstitution with GA asserting parental involvement and putting giant question marks over DP and others.
3. We have silence from the PJ who are reportedly not on side with SY's investigation, but we do not know for sure.

Effectively we have one group denying the possibility of parental involvement.
Another group asserting parental involvement
And an unknown situation with a third group.

Meanwhile everyone is talking about three burglars and Twitter is going mad.

The worst case scenario - an inter-governmental whitewash. Just like before, when GA was removed from post


Whilst I agree with most of your post, I have faith in the PJ.  The reconstruction shown on Portuguese television was much closer to the truth of what went on that evening, so too the running commentary.  Having broadcast this, I don't see the Portuguese public accepting a conclusion that exonerates the child neglecting McCanns and their tapas friends and incriminates a Portuguese citizens, even dead ones.  

The PJ have steadfastly refused to re-open the case of Madeleine's disappearance for over 5 years - making it perfectly clear that they would only re-open the case if they had new evidence.  Given their former stance, and the controversy surrounding this case, shelving it again is not an option.  The PJ have not interacted with the media over the years, they have ignored the McCanns taunts and the abuse in the British press, and carried on quietly behind the scenes. As Goncalo Amaral famously says, Justice works in silence.  

We can probably ignore all these nonsense stories until something tangible comes along, so far all the stories that support an abduction have as much realism as Santa and the Tooth Fairy. I sometimes wonder if someone is testing the water in releasing these yarns, seeing what if anything the public will buy as the truth.  If this is the best they can come up with, then the chances of a whitewash are diminishing by the day.  It should also be noted that there have been no sightings since SY opened the official investigation.

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Re: Daily Mirror front page 13/01/2014

Post by russiandoll on 13.01.14 16:16

We still have Smithman to factor into this scenario - is he one of the 3 , the one who took Maddie  instead of jewellery, money...?

 If so, who might the other 2 have been ? And doing what while their accomplice, instead of driving the car they would have used to stash their booty and get away pronto, decided to go walkies down towards the Atlantic, carrying the stolen child?


If these burglars exist, they are possible witnesses not suspects in a case of child abduction imo.

 I tend to think though that a certain trio are being given a little prod via the media, just to let them know the heat is still on under the pan.

 Wonder who they could be ?

  eta... exactly Cristobell,  no sightings and the Met seem to be ignoring the rather glaring fact of a man TIEd ,an innocent father, being still on the Mcs web site, linked as ever to the abduction of a child.
 Why would they do that?

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Not too late for a carol !

Post by PeterMac on 13.01.14 16:21

We three Thieves of Portugal are
Seeking loot we traverse afar
Field and fountain, moor and mountain
Following yonder star

Born a Thief on Portugal’s plain
Gold I seek to spend it again
Looking forever, ceasing never
And finding the children - Twain

Common sense to offer have I
Crying shows a child is nigh
Get out quickly, child is sickly
Just don’t look in her right eye

Cadaverine, its bitter perfume
Breathes of life of gathering gloom
Sorrowing, sighing, bleeding, dying
Shunned from her mother’s womb

Express of wonder, Star of night
Sun with Pinkie’s stories bright
Jail-ward leading, still proceeding
Hoping for legal right


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