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Post by Tangled Web on 10.01.14 1:44

The extra link is suspect IMO. It takes you away from the official page.

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Post by Cristobell on 10.01.14 1:47

@Mirage wrote:I think we need to look at the bigger picture really. Cameron has got the collywobbles about Duggan repercussions, The Duggan shooting has resurrected memories of Jean Charles de Menezes and Ian Tomlinson. Plebgate's an ongoing issue. The 6million Grange Investigation is on the ropes with nothing to show for it but gobbledy gook, topped off by a Christmas cracker joke of a CW, The Independent is leading on SY rotten to the core on their front page tomorrow with Keith Vaz leading the charge. Hillsborough and the IPCC  loom ever closer with HH needing to answer some salient questions. ITV and their lying programme is under fire on Twitter. The CMMTV reconstruction is being aired on Twitter and fb. Goncalo Amaral has done a revealing interview with a Norwegian news site. There are thousands of people watching developments now, here and abroad. The Libel trial is obviously a sensitive issue for the MSM who are churning out insulting rubbish like the Leal woman and the three burglars.

All in all, the MET are going to be forced to sanitise themselves or face increasing public wrath. People are aware of the McCanns. I have never met anyone who has a good word for them and I know it's the same for many of you. The British public can surprise. The sleeping bulldog at the moment, maybe. But there's a layering effect here and a McCann whitewash will see heads roll in the end.

Often it is the coming together of many unforeseen events that force a tipping point and new re-alignments. There will be a critical mass moment when the erstwhile elite realise public opinion is bubbling up and forcing issues. I think that's where we are poised at the moment.



Many thanks Mirage, I will sleep much better after reading that.  smilie 

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Post by Mirage on 10.01.14 1:50

@Tangled Web wrote:The extra link is suspect IMO. It takes you away from the official page.

I agree Tangled Web. My gut feeling is that it is all very iffy. Something not ringing right.

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Post by marconi on 10.01.14 1:51

The only T-shirt I agree with is the one "Madeleine was abducted by paedophiles". It was fabricated before most people started mistrusting the parents 'version.
At least the parents were sincere at that moment and finally both police are treating the case as being an abduction.
Who are the paedophiles?

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Post by Mirage on 10.01.14 1:53

Many thanks Mirage, I will sleep much better after reading that.

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You're welcome Cristobel. I nearly added "Sleep well everyone" then came over a bit shy!   blushing1

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Post by canada12 on 10.01.14 2:15

Perhaps for tax purposes they need to have the store active. Creative accounting could result in the store (and website) costing more money to run than funds coming in...thus a reported tax loss... ?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 10.01.14 2:16

Cameron also cacking his pants over this:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kings-science-academy-head-sajid-3006321

Head of flagship free school backed by top Tory is arrested over fraud allegations

The Kings Science Academy in Bradford is backed by Conservative vice chairman Alan Lewis and was visited and praised by David Cameron in 2012

The revelations are an embarrassment for Mr Cameron and Education Secretary Michael Gove, who introduced the free schools

The patron and benefactor of the school is Tory vice chairman Alan Lewis

Mr Lewis is the school’s executive patron and the academy was built on his company’s land in a deal worth 6 million pounds in rent over 20 years.


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Post by bristow on 10.01.14 5:33

@Cristobell wrote:
@aquila wrote:Perhaps the Fund needs to sell a 'physical product' (i.e. tat) in order to comply with terms of trading. Maybe Enid O'Dowd or someone else on the forum with expertise in business law can confirm.

If the Fund only had donate buttons would that change its operating status? (I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud). If the Fund had NO products or donate buttons what would the company be trading as?

I see PayPal is reinstated. Also, interestingly the donate amounts are now in pounds.99p and .98p



Someone on the OFM facebook page has helpfully suggested that the half million plus members of the site all donate £1 each - they need funds!
Sounds very much like Stephen Birch asking for £1 from each member to reach his £50.000 to dig for Madeleine, is there a connection?

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Post by Tangled Web on 10.01.14 8:34

@bristow wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@aquila wrote:Perhaps the Fund needs to sell a 'physical product' (i.e. tat) in order to comply with terms of trading. Maybe Enid O'Dowd or someone else on the forum with expertise in business law can confirm.

If the Fund only had donate buttons would that change its operating status? (I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud). If the Fund had NO products or donate buttons what would the company be trading as?

I see PayPal is reinstated. Also, interestingly the donate amounts are now in pounds.99p and .98p



Someone on the OFM facebook page has helpfully suggested that the half million plus members of the site all donate £1 each - they need funds!
Sounds very much like Stephen Birch asking for £1 from each member to reach his £50.000 to dig for Madeleine, is there a connection?

Good point! Certainly sounds like it. I heard about this only the other day.

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Post by russiandoll on 10.01.14 9:04

@marconi wrote:The only T-shirt I agree with is the one "Madeleine was abducted by paedophiles". It was fabricated before most people started mistrusting the parents 'version.
At least the parents were sincere at that moment and finally both police are treating the case as being an abduction.
Who are the paedophiles?

 Marconi if you are speaking about the photo posted by admin I think you will find that it is a spoof, have you seen the signs behind the 3 adults?

 Whilst I understand the sentiment behind this spoof photo and the incongruous smiles of the adults given the gravity of the situation they had found themselves in, I wish it would be made clear that the McCanns never stood holding a t shirt with this message on, it gives ammunition to critics of those who doubt the Mcs story.

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Post by Mirage on 10.01.14 9:08

@russiandoll wrote:
@marconi wrote:The only T-shirt I agree with is the one "Madeleine was abducted by paedophiles". It was fabricated before most people started mistrusting the parents 'version.
At least the parents were sincere at that moment and finally both police are treating the case as being an abduction.
Who are the paedophiles?

 Marconi if you are speaking about the photo posted by admin I think you will find that it is a spoof, have you seen the signs behind the 3 adults?

 Whilst I understand the sentiment behind this spoof photo and the incongruous smiles of the adults given the gravity of the situation they had found themselves in, I wish it would be made clear that the McCanns never stood holding a t shirt with this message on, it gives ammunition to critics of those who doubt the Mcs story.

I agree RD. I've always said this was the wrong approach.

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Post by Mirage on 10.01.14 9:13

The re-opening of the store under odd circumstances reminds me of pop-up shops flogging tat for a day or two on dying high streets.

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Post by Guest on 10.01.14 9:28

@Mirage wrote:The re-opening of the store under odd circumstances reminds me of pop-up shops flogging tat for a day or two on dying high streets.

Ah, you've visited my home town!

It's like the football photos (the significance of which were underestimated I think). Either dying throes, or we can expect more - much more - of the same from now on.

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Post by Mirage on 10.01.14 9:48

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Mirage wrote:The re-opening of the store under odd circumstances reminds me of pop-up shops flogging tat for a day or two on dying high streets.

Ah, you've visited my home town!

It's like the football photos (the significance of which were underestimated I think). Either dying throes, or we can expect more - much more - of the same from now on.

Aw. Lots of high streets dying on their feet, not just yours Clay.

Interesting about the football photos. I think about the significance of those a lot. I like to re-visit them and look at detail. For instance, I don't think Harry looks delighted to be glad-handing GM. He has a very penetrating look in his eye. I noticed you'd mentioned it was unusual for him to be in the opposition's box before KO, although there was a delay due to traffic congestion.

Having listened to HR interviewed on radio recently, I was taken with his introverted character. He said he was a home-loving person who was happiest in a domestic setting in the company of his wife. He favours a simple life, dislikes socialising. He finds formal occasions/dinners a trial etc Much prefers an evening in, or popping down to a favourite Italian restaurant for a quiet meal with his wife. His life revolves around football and family. He talked about his trial openly and the effects etc. He obviously felt he'd been unfairly picked on and talked of the unstinting support of his son. All in all, I didn't have him down as someone to be played for a fool; a cheap publicity stunt. But then, I have only this to go on.

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Post by debs on 10.01.14 9:55

@russiandoll wrote:
 Whilst I understand the sentiment behind this spoof photo and the incongruous smiles of the adults given the gravity of the situation they had found themselves in, I wish it would be made clear that the McCanns never stood holding a t shirt with this message on, it gives ammunition to critics of those who doubt the Mcs story.
would you clear something up for me please, are you referring to this picture or another one, ie is this one genuine (apart from the photo on the shirt which is obviously added) thanks


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Post by Bishop Brennan on 10.01.14 10:05

On the surface the re-opening of the store actually adds to what has actually been a good few months for the McCanns. Their PR machine (and perhaps something more) has switched up several gears.  We have had:  

CW (twice) + huge press coverage of the new efits
Confirmation that they are 'not suspects or persons of interest' in either the UK or Portugal
Stories in the UK press about all kinds of new 'prime suspects'
Stories in the Portuguese press about tractorman being a new 'prime suspect'
Zero coverage of the libel trial and the witnesses
Brief coverage (partly retracted) about the efit suppression story
The recent program on crimes telling us they are "100% innocent"
Appearances on TV shows for 'missing people'
Everton celeb status

Why have they done it?  Who knows.  It might be as simple as loving the publicity, and cashing in on the recent interest in the case based on the SY investigation and the Panorama program.  

In terms of them feeling threatened / in trouble... other than their faces on CW, I just don't see it.  Nothing so far indicates that either police force has moved the case forward one jot.  Sure we have lost tannerman, but that takes us no nearer to 'new evidence' or anything like closure.  Both police forces appear to be casting around hoping that something will appear.  Meanwhile the McCanns sense this and have upped their PR profile.   I think we can expect more of the same.

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Post by plebgate on 10.01.14 10:14

@Five Star wrote:They could at least hand the medical records over....do a lie detector and answer all the questions .......  Then ask for more money    yes
Yes that would go a long way imo, but as two police forces are investigating why the need for any donations? - IMO they should be donating to the two police investigations (any monies they may not have spent from the fund).   So............................................. is there any money left in the fund, if not where has it all gone?

Have SY asked them to do a lie detector?  We are not being told anything and all of this is/was public money.   What is going on?

Do SY find it perhaps odd that they are still asking for donations to the FIND MADELEINE WEBSITE, are they still looking?

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Post by Guest on 10.01.14 10:21

Of course they're not looking.  The Fund is there for one reason only, IMO, and that is to provide the cash to pay their legal fees and to sue anyone who disagrees/challenges their version of events.

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Post by plebgate on 10.01.14 10:22

@bristow wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@aquila wrote:Perhaps the Fund needs to sell a 'physical product' (i.e. tat) in order to comply with terms of trading. Maybe Enid O'Dowd or someone else on the forum with expertise in business law can confirm.

If the Fund only had donate buttons would that change its operating status? (I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud). If the Fund had NO products or donate buttons what would the company be trading as?

I see PayPal is reinstated. Also, interestingly the donate amounts are now in pounds.99p and .98p



Someone on the OFM facebook page has helpfully suggested that the half million plus members of the site all donate £1 each - they need funds!
Sounds very much like Stephen Birch asking for £1 from each member to reach his £50.000 to dig for Madeleine, is there a connection?
He didn't get it though.  Someone posted he ran off with his football.  big grin

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Post by Guest on 10.01.14 11:02

@debs wrote:
@russiandoll wrote:
 Whilst I understand the sentiment behind this spoof photo and the incongruous smiles of the adults given the gravity of the situation they had found themselves in, I wish it would be made clear that the McCanns never stood holding a t shirt with this message on, it gives ammunition to critics of those who doubt the Mcs story.
would you clear something up for me please, are you referring to this picture or another one, ie is this one genuine (apart from the photo on the shirt which is obviously added) thanks


I must admit to thinking the photo was genuine with that photo on the shirt. I see on the website though that the shirts currently on sale have the poolside photo on them. What a help that will be in identifying Madeleine now, it didn't even look like her back in 2007!

The McCanns have only themselves to blame by their behaviour that spoof photos are so believable, particularly the one where they appear to be counting money on a table.

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Post by aiyoyo on 10.01.14 11:24

@marconi wrote:Maybe they got permission to reopen it, to sell the left overs of the store.

Sorry, what a load of tosh !

Got Permission !  From who ?

They don't need permission  on however they like to operate a Pte Ltd Co.

It's a Private Ltd company for crying out loud, well within its right to trade and generate income as they see fit.

If tomorrow they decide to sell Grandma Healy's size / style Pjyamas to OAPs, or sell Kate's knickers to fans, they are still within the  law, so to speak.

The ever burning question of why they need money for what purpose now that two Police Forces are back working on their case, and they'd scaled down PIs, will never be forthcoming.  It's obvious they're still incurring legal bills that need to be paid.

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Post by Cristobell on 10.01.14 11:34

Bellisa wrote:tangled web I have an e mail reply saying that they are amending site now.
Its telling how keen they are to get cash in given that both pages are not accepting donations simultaneously.

Cristobell That post was unbelievable, the child(3) felt close to Madeleine and this is why slept in the t shirt so Madeleine wasn't alone. Bizarre.

This has whitewash written all over it IMO.


Perhaps they are thinking of bringing out a range of kids nightwear featuring the faces of dead and missing children?

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Post by Daisy on 10.01.14 11:37

@aiyoyo wrote:
@marconi wrote:Maybe they got permission to reopen it, to sell the left overs of the store.

Sorry, what a load of tosh !

Got Permission !  From who ?

They don't need permission  on however they like to operate a Pte Ltd Co.

It's a Private Ltd company for crying out loud, well within its right to trade and generate income as they see fit.

If tomorrow they decide to sell Grandma Healy's size / style Pjyamas to OAPs, or sell Kate's knickers to fans, they are still within the  law, so to speak.

The ever burning question of why they need money for what purpose now that two Police Forces are back working on their case, and they'd scaled down PIs, will never be forthcoming.  It's obvious they're still incurring legal bills that need to be paid.
Oh for gawds sake, pleeeease don't be giving them ideas Aiyoyo!

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Post by Guest on 10.01.14 11:43

@Cristobell wrote:


Perhaps they are thinking of bringing out a range of kids nightwear featuring the faces of dead and missing children?

It's them or Primark.

I just can't believe anybody buys this stuff, except ironically. Like for instance I can imagine my other half finding it hilarious to buy me a wristband from there.

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Post by Guest on 10.01.14 11:48

I will confess to having ordered those good quality wristbands in the past and I hope that the recipients are eternally grateful for them. Yes it was for a joke.

Aiyoyo, I shall have nightmares now at the thought of Kate's underwear being offered for sale.

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