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Re: 3 Prime Suspects Identified

Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:05

I see The Mail have got their usual soft porn down the sidebar there.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:13

@jeanmonroe wrote:So 'smithman' was a burglar then?

So shouldn't be too long before one of the Smith's 'remembers' the stripey top and 'swag' bag he was carrying along with a child.

Is there a court case judgement in a libel case in Portugal very soon?

Morning Jeanmonroe,

You forgot the mask(s)!

Why does the whole story remind me of Donald Duck?

And yeah, court in action on the 7th, so apparently orders are out: clutter up the hogwash!

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:16

I don't understand why, if three men enter an apartment for nefarious reasons and leave with nothing but a child, the motive is assumed to be burglary? Maybe they were Michael Shrimpton's gang? Ah, but then of course they would have taken out everybody in a 10km radius to make sure that their activities went unnoticed...

This story is mostly rubbish but it gets out there the idea that SY are digging through the phone data and that can only mean uncomfortable questions for the main protagonists. If it is established that the T9 were already using PAYG phones at the time of the disappearance, where would that leave them?

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:17

@Okeydokey wrote:
@littlepixie wrote:Can't this paper be reported to trading standards or something for that pack of lies. It should be shut down for selling a product not fit for purpose.

I wonder what the names of the Detectives are who branded it a disgrace and if they are "real life serving Detectives" or just Dave and Pigeon Arthur?

God Bless Poor Maddie McCann - aged 3

It's the McCanns who want to control the press. I am quite happy for them to publish nonsense as long as we can publish corrections to the nonsense.

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:19

@bristow wrote:Just WHO died in that apartment if it wasn't Madeleine?

All this utter nonsense about burglars, tractor man et al and JUST NO BLOODY MENTION of the dogs findings in ANY MSM, what the HELL is going on???!!!

God I'm furious with it all!

Dumb question, who died there: maybe those six dying patients were traveling on the airport bus too?

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Post by Seek truth on 04.01.14 9:21

They're just trying to irritate the public.
 sarcastic

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:34

@Seek truth wrote:They're just trying to irritate the public.
 sarcastic

This comment worked on me.

phetpeter, Phetchabun, 6 hours ago
You would think that every new born child in the E.U. should have a DNA stamp registered. Simple blood sample and this would be part of the Bio metric of the person on a database in each country. Making identification for various reasons a lot easier?


How on earth would that have made any difference in this case?

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Post by tigger on 04.01.14 9:39



Making it 100% sure that any abducted or abused child will be killed.  Great thinking...

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Post by plebgate on 04.01.14 9:45

Clay Regazzoni wrote:
@Seek truth wrote:They're just trying to irritate the public.
 sarcastic

This comment worked on me.

phetpeter, Phetchabun, 6 hours ago
You would think that every new born child in the E.U. should have a DNA stamp registered. Simple blood sample and this would be part of the Bio metric of the person on a database in each country. Making identification for various reasons a lot easier?


How on earth would that have made any difference in this case?
Simple blood sample or urine test maybe?

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:46

But if you'd be in the business of flogging DNA testing -as a wider agenda, say- you'd be over the moon, wouldn't you?

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Post by canada12 on 04.01.14 9:47

Clay Regazzoni wrote:I don't understand why, if three men enter an apartment for nefarious reasons and leave with nothing but a child, the motive is assumed to be burglary? Maybe they were Michael Shrimpton's gang? Ah, but then of course they would have taken out everybody in a 10km radius to make sure that their activities went unnoticed...

This story is mostly rubbish but it gets out there the idea that SY are digging through the phone data and that can only mean uncomfortable questions for the main protagonists. If it is established that the T9 were already using PAYG phones at the time of the disappearance, where would that leave them?

Very good point.
What would SY expect to see?
Normal phone conversations from the T9 up to the "abduction" time. Followed by PAYG phones afterwards.
If it can be discovered exactly when the T9 reverted to PAYG or started deleting messages, it would be very telling indeed.

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Post by plebgate on 04.01.14 9:48

Tuesday is looming ahead.   Expect more tomorrow and Monday, but nothing about the libel hearing on Tuesday.


Oh and guess what, she will be at the Everton match having been front page today!

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 9:50

@canada12 wrote:
Clay Regazzoni wrote:I don't understand why, if three men enter an apartment for nefarious reasons and leave with nothing but a child, the motive is assumed to be burglary? Maybe they were Michael Shrimpton's gang? Ah, but then of course they would have taken out everybody in a 10km radius to make sure that their activities went unnoticed...

This story is mostly rubbish but it gets out there the idea that SY are digging through the phone data and that can only mean uncomfortable questions for the main protagonists. If it is established that the T9 were already using PAYG phones at the time of the disappearance, where would that leave them?

Very good point.
What would SY expect to see?
Normal phone conversations from the T9 up to the "abduction" time. Followed by PAYG phones afterwards.
If it can be discovered exactly when the T9 reverted to PAYG or started deleting messages, it would be very telling indeed.

Monteiro was a small time phone dealer wasn't he. Would he have known Murat? If anybody local could get their hands on "burners" at short notice, I'd put my money on him.

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Post by tigger on 04.01.14 10:21

I could put this quote on almost every topic concerning the McCanns:

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Joseph W. Goebbels

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 10:30

@tigger wrote:I could put this quote on almost every topic concerning the McCanns:  



Yeah I like that one a lot. I think this one is similarly universally applicable.

"People are strange"

Jim Morrison

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Re: 3 Prime Suspects Identified

Post by PeterMac on 04.01.14 10:33

British detectives believe the burglars may have panicked after they woke Madeleine up by mistake and decided to take her away with them.

So Smithman is now out of the frame, since the child he was carrying was clearly asleep, comatose or dead.
Tannerman-child was also unconscious, comatose, or dead.

Madeleine - the Screamer - according to Kate and most of her family, is now carried away by three men through the quiet streets of PdL ?
The three men panic and decide to take her away. One supposes they ran a short series of "Abduction workshops' followed by a plenary session to come to this conclusion, with a vote taken and properly recorded in the minutes . . .
rather than just panicking and running away empty handed.

And not one of the three leave ANY Forensic trace of entry, exit, MO,
Not one of the three is seen,
Not one decides to nick the passports, camera, wallet, or anything else. We know that because, all together now 1-2-3 "Nothing of value was taken..."

This is the biggest BS story since   - insert your own comparison -



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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 04.01.14 10:36

@PeterMac wrote:
British detectives believe the burglars may have panicked after they woke Madeleine up by mistake and decided to take her away with them.

So Smithman is now out of the frame, since the child he was carrying was clearly asleep, comatose or dead.
Tannerman-child was also unconscious, comatose, or dead.

Madeleine - the Screamer - according to Kate and most of her family, is now carried away by three men through the quiet streets of PdL ?
The three men panic and decide to take her away. One supposes they ran a short series of "Abduction workshops' followed by a plenary session to come to this conclusion, with a vote taken and properly recorded in the minutes . . .
rather than just panicking and running away empty handed.

And not one of the three leave ANY Forensic trace of entry, exit, MO,
Not one of the three is seen,
Not one decides to nick the passports, camera, wallet, or anything else.   We know that because, all together now 1-2-3 "Nothing of value was taken..."

This is the biggest BS story since   - insert your own comparison -



The biggest BS since Elvis was spotted in Tesco somewhere up North in the 1990's.

If it wasn't such a scandalous waste of taxpayer funds, and a massive insult to the British public to feed them this pigswill, one could almost laugh one's head off.

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Post by russiandoll on 04.01.14 10:39

Can anyone make this scenario of panic congruent with the bedroom door?  I can't.

eta........how do cops know it was MEN?

pink  spin 

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Post by SixMillionQuid on 04.01.14 10:41

How does SY know the phone data they looking at was from three men?

Voice data? If its voice data then they'll know what has been said during the conversations.
Text/SMS data? Then they'll have a permanent record of what messages have been sent.
If its pinging data from mobile phone masts then ANYONE could be holding that phone, man, woman or child.

So why do they appear to be having difficulty finding out who these three MEN were?

@ russiandoll you have the same thought as me.

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Post by Smokeandmirrors on 04.01.14 10:44

@russiandoll wrote:Can anyone make this scenario of panic congruent with the bedroom door?  I can't.

eta........how do cops know it was MEN?

 pink  spin 

Or the window, shutter Bull****. No matter that there was undisturbed "dust" on the ledge, or no front door left open from them dashing off, stair gates closed etc.

SY - YOU MUST TRY HARDER.

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Re: 3 Prime Suspects Identified

Post by Bishop Brennan on 04.01.14 10:47

@plebgate wrote:Tuesday is looming ahead.   Expect more tomorrow and Monday, but nothing about the libel hearing on Tuesday.


Oh and guess what, she will be at the Everton match having been front page today!
Exactly. It's an action replay of the PR planted stories during the last libel day. You have to say that the McCanns are getting excellent value for money from their PR team. But of course it begs the question as to why innocent people need a PR team at all - never mind one that is so adept at planting such high profile stories...

In fact all this professional PR activity is in and of itself highly suspicious.   Behaviour that SY will certainly be taking note of.  

For these stories do not come from redwood. Of that we can be certain. There are no hidden messages in the story. This is 100% PR story placement - probably using some inside information (another rage from redwood when he finds that out).

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Post by Guest on 04.01.14 10:54

@Bishop Brennan wrote: [...]

For these stories do not come from redwood. Of that we can be certain. There are no hidden messages in the story. This is 100% PR story placement - probably using some inside information (another rage from redwood when he finds that out).
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I was just about to write something of the kind. NSY just lets the MSM and TM get away with it, as long as they do not put words in their mouth and "quote" them for something, they never said.

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Post by suzyjohnson on 04.01.14 10:55

The only way three burglars could possibly have been responsible is if they disturbed MM who then tried to run out of the apartment to find her parents and fell, and they decided to take her with the intention of taking her to a hospital, but then she died on the way .....

But this theory takes no account of any the following .....

This incident could only have occured after GM met JW at 9.15 pm

1) Tapas seven checks from 9.20 pm (JT returning) 9.30 pm MO and ROB, 9.35 pm MO returning, 9.45 pm Jane returning to 5D, 9.50 pm ROB returning to tapas, 10 pm KM check, none of whom noticed anything, nor did any independent witness  

2) Any noise, crying, phone calls, bringing a car round to 5A, talking, sound of shutters / windows etc

3) If someone had disturbed MM by opening the window, and then MM had run from the bedroom, the burglar would have left without noticing where MM went next, wouldn't have known if she had fallen ....... the only way he would have found her in another room in 5A is if he had gone in through another door ...... and if he did that, why would he open the window at all?

5) What about the evidence from Eddie and Keela?

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Post by Swannie on 04.01.14 11:01

@Bishop Brennan wrote:"And if these petty thieves are disturbed what would they do?  Drop everything and peg it down the street of course.  There is just NO scenario where they would steal a kid."
Oh, come on. Perhaps they were just collecting for 'The Local Orphanage'?


Would look so nice if all these articles were printed in pink......

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Post by bristow on 04.01.14 11:25

Sounds like they could be spinning Kate's strange comment of "They've taken her"

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