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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by sallypelt on 03.01.14 11:34

I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page

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Post by sallypelt on 03.01.14 11:35

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 16m
#madeleine McCann's lawyer will appeal the judge's decision. The hearing is expected to finish on Tuesday.
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Post by scrants on 03.01.14 11:36

Martin Brunt has tweeted that Mccann's have been refused permission to give evidence in libel trial. They will appeal the decision.

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Post by NickE on 03.01.14 11:36

0_0 ‏[ltr]@1matthewwright1[/ltr]15m
RT MB..Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial over ex-cop Goncalo Amaral's book. #McCann

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Post by Cristobell on 03.01.14 11:38

@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame! I would have liked to have heard what they had to say. I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by sallypelt on 03.01.14 11:41

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?

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Post by Tangled Web on 03.01.14 11:42

If true, maybe the judge has heard more than enough.

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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by Guest on 03.01.14 11:46

Thank you. Although already on the twitter thread, I will leave this so that it will be easy to find for future reference. Here are Brunty's tweets.


martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 26m
#madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial over ex-cop Goncalo Amaral'sbook.



martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 25m
#madeleine McCann's lawyer will appeal the judge's decision. The hearing is expected to finish on Tuesday.



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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by Cristobell on 03.01.14 11:47

@sallypelt wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?




I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong. It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

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Post by Guest on 03.01.14 11:48

If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail

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Post by sallypelt on 03.01.14 11:49

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?




I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong.  It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.
Christobell, you may be correct. It was just that I had heard, a few weeks back that they wanted to give written evidence, rather than appear in person, but it was just hearsay, and I have no evidence to say that this is the case.

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Post by Guest on 03.01.14 11:50

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?




I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong.  It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Precisely! And of course it would have added new nothing to the stuff dished out by the previous witnesses for the claimants

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Post by IKNOWWHATHAPPENED on 03.01.14 11:57

I never expected them to take the stand.

They are involving lawyers to try and fool the public into thinking the Portuguese Judicial system is being unfair to them.

Katie and the wee man really are something else.

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Post by aquila on 03.01.14 12:01

@IKNOWWHATHAPPENED wrote:I never expected them to take the stand.

They are involving lawyers to try and fool the public into thinking the Portuguese Judicial system is being unfair to them.

Katie and the wee man really are something else.

This is a libel trial. It's not a criminal court.

The UK MSM have steered well clear of reporting on this. If Martin Brunt is tweeting snips of info then why don't his paymasters report the whole of the libel trial and the reason for it?

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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by Cristobell on 03.01.14 12:02

[copied over from other thread]

@Portia wrote:If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail


I don't know if they will get away with that Portia as originally they were not going to appear, Gerry requested permission halfway through when he realised how badly their case was going.  They are probably bitterly disappointed - egotists that they are, they probably believed a last minute plea to the Judge would erase all the crap she has heard so far and turn things around.  

So if no more witnesses are to be heard, the final day will just consist of the Summing up by the lawyers for each party, as I understand it.

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Post by Guest on 03.01.14 12:02

Is this another attempt by the mccanns 'to slow down time just a little'.
They are fast losing face,they astound me.

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Post by Seek truth on 03.01.14 12:04

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?




I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong.  It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.
Great theatre indeed!

But NO we can't have that,
Mustn't put the SPECIAL MCCANNS through that !!!

As usual

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Post by SixMillionQuid on 03.01.14 12:04

@Portia wrote:If so, here we have a ground for the appeal: we were not heard so we had no fair trail

I would counter argue they are not on trial.  They brought the case against the inspector, its been delayed numerous times and they've had enough time to prepare their arguments. Any info gleaned from Operation Grange will be ignored as they were not in existence when they instructed their lawyers to sue the inspector. The exit is that way, have a nice day.  big grin

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Post by Jontait on 03.01.14 12:15

Could it be to ensure that they do not say anything in court that could influence any future criminal court case?

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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by aquila on 03.01.14 12:24

Instead of speculating, why not wait until Tuesday?

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Post by Bishop Brennan on 03.01.14 12:28

In the end this is a libel trial - quite technical compared to a criminal trial in the UK. Either the book constitutes libel or it doesn't. Hearing from Kate and Gerry (or indeed amaral) doesn't really add anything.  The judge has to make a technical decision about libel, and if there is libel then a decision about the extent of damage. 

Sounds like the judge has heard enough to make the decisions required.  I imagine whoever loses will appeal. That is a given.

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Re: Mccann's refused permission to give evidence

Post by tiny on 03.01.14 12:32

I bet the mccanns are dancing with joy now they cant appear.

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Post by Truthandjustice on 03.01.14 12:35

I assume the judge has heard enough.  If the Mc's were unable to produce professionally qualified witnesses to back up their claims then their own personal statements will add nothing.  I am glad they have been denied the opportunity for more media manipulation because the press would have been all over it.

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Post by Rasputin on 03.01.14 12:45

Will this give them an excuse not to appear in person ?

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Post by jeanmonroe on 03.01.14 12:51

@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:
@Cristobell wrote:
@sallypelt wrote:I don't know how much truth is in this, but this was tweeted within the last few minutes:

@scrantlings LizzyF   7m
“@skymartinbrunt: #madeleine Kate and Gerry McCann refused permission to give evidence next week in Lisbon libel trial #McCann

Edited to confirm that it has been tweeted on Martin Brunt's Twitter page



What a shame!  I would have liked to have heard what they had to say.  I wonder if Goncalo Amaral has also had his request refused?

Wasn't it written evidence that the McCann's wanted to give?




I thought they wanted to go in the witness box Sally, but I may be wrong.  It would have made great theatre, which might be the reason the Judge turned them down.

Conveniently forgetting to tell people that they were NOT on the 'witness' list at any time.

And conveniently 'forgetting' that they could have 'over ruled' their lawyer ID and gone into the witness box on the very first day, if they had wanted to be heard 'personally'

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